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This a good price for a name brand Telly. Beats buying crap Sanyo, Vivo etc. I bought a Sony 26in a week ago for $269, so feeling jipped now. This model also has USB and plays movies etc.
Sony Bravia KDL32BX320 32" LCD TV $299 from Dick Smith
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Got all excited till I found out it's only 768. I know it doesn't really matter at this size, but still, would like a full hd screen.
Absolutely impossible to realize full hd at 32inch regardless of pixels. Don't wait waste your money thinking you need 1920 x 1080 pixels. It's all a farce at this screen size. Anyhow there's virtually no hd broadcasting anymore on freeview. Even GEM 7mate are just up scaling standard def. At $299 that's a round of drinks at the ivy LOL.
I can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p even on a 15 inch screen. The difference is even more obvious on a 32 inch screen.
You're a legend! It's not as though a FHD screen is only $50 more. Check out how much you'd have to pay to get the specs you'd prefer.
If you want to use it as a computer monitor then a HD panel is essential. It'd be fairly pointless hooking a Bluray player up to this TV as well, for much the same reasons.
Also, it is entirely possible to "realise" full HD at 32", not sure where yuo get your facts from, but you need to research them again.
If you're using it as a telly (you know, like it's designed to be used for) and sitting metres from the screen, then you can't resolve the difference on a 32".
Yes, if you're sitting centimetres from the screen, you will be able to resolve the difference.FHD were less than $50 diff a few month back, if you were lucky enough to purchase (http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/58563). I am using the CX520 as a PC monitor from 1 meter away and it works nicely, initially i thought i would only use it as movies/game monitor but text and web browsing work well.
Only thing i would like on the CX520 model is USB RECord/DVR like they offer on the same TV in UK.
If any CX520 owner or anyone in general would like to help persuade Sony to add this feature in the AU model please
EMAIL SONY AT:
[email protected]I checked the BX and it doesn't seem they offer USB recording in AU or UK.
I bought the full HD model (the 520) last Sunday at JB for my son. Price was $400 and yes, I can see the difference even with these old eyes.
I think it all depends on how close up you are. Some people buying those to sit on their desk in their dorm rooms, and they can definitely tell the difference when their eyes are 50cm from the actual panel. In a lounge room where you are 3 metres away? Maybe not. Not with my ageing degraded eye sights anyway.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/12/resolu…
Divide feet by 3 to get meters :)
32" If you are more than 2 meters away you're not likely to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p
it's easy to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, and those people who can't should get their eyes tested because they're selling themselves short by missing out on seeing a lot of things in this world.
I have a new 32" TV and appreciate the full HD picture. When watching animation on blu-ray the extra resolution is readily apparent. While semi-HD resolution still looks fine on a panel this size, why compromise when the difference between resolutions is often $50 or less on comparable televisions?
Can defo tell the difference in EVERYTHING between FHD & HD, unless you've got terrible eyes. It used to be the case that it wasn't much of a difference between the 2 panels, but things have seemingly changed and there's signification difference now. There's little artefacts and weird blurring effects on the lower resolution panels, maybe it's an imaging processing thing, the lower end panels are using. Who knows, but it's fact there's a huge difference in quality.
Still a good deal for a brand name I suppose, but my phone has a higher resolution. :/
Maybe if you only watch free to air tv you can't notice.
But anyone who watchs blurays, uses it for PS3, or as a PC monitor will certainly appreciate full hd
use as monitor would be nice if 1080p
very good point
excellent pric epaid 360 for it last year
Its 299 without GST, goes to 330 when you check out
Delete, it shows up as 330 on the website but 299 in the email they sent. Thanks alot OP i wanted to buy this TV for a while!
You high?
Excellent price but plays only MPEG-1 format videos via USB… turns me down.
in this day and age it should play just about anything! a 20 buck media player from ebay plays everything so there is no excuse! IMO deal breaker.
Completely agree. My neighbour just bought a 40" Sony with all the usual Sony bling like Internet Connectivity & Wireless Networking etc. but it's extremely fussy with video file formats and it also doesn't seem to like 2.5" USB Hard Drives even though they power up fine. USB Memory Stick/Thumb Drives/Pen Drives get recognised instantly but you've got to convert all your media to very basic MPEG-1 or 2 formats. Pointless.
Not good enough in this day and age, especially when the $299 Dick Smith Branded 32" FullHD LED LCD TV I bought in December can do most formats no problem (& looks great to boot) and so can the good ol' Samsungs & other similar 'generic' TVs but alas Sony have been doing things like this for the last decade or two which is why I no longer own or buy Sony equipment.
Dear Sony, go through your history books and get back to the way you used to be in the 80's… rock solid quality, cutting edge features & supremely desirable.
Please stop the brand snobbery. If this is a good model then great.
But my Dad's Sony Bravia is crap compared to cheaper models of the same age. Very slow to tune, awkward controls, no EPG, and needed repairs early.
The Sony name is no guarantee. Its not 1980 any more.And agreed, FullHD not important for video on 32". makes more difference for still photos though.
The old model Sony Bravias without EPG were slow and unfriendly menus. I know. My parents have a 32" one. I have a newer 32" FHD Bravia. They redesigned the interface and added EPG. Its alot faster startup and channel change. Much better than the old early models.
FDH on my 32" Bravia is great. Use it for media playback from HTPC, blu-ray and xbox360.
Channel changing is still slow on new models, (or the one I saw at Costco).
I agree, I have a Sony 46XBR, the tunning is sslloowww… and now have a dark shadow on the corner of the screen, lucky for me I get a free repair from Sony even thou I purchased it 3 years ago :) thanks to a recall on these models.
There's a huge difference between a FHD and HD panel, for EVERYTHING. Go to dickies and have a look, this tho ughtmay have applied years ago when the tech was new, but it's clearly visible within seconds which panel is FHD or not these days.
Yep completely agree. This "there is no difference between FHD and HD on a 32 inch TV" is complete BS. Even from a distance images appear clearer (unless you have terrible eye sight). I have a Samsung UA32D6000 1080p and it absolutely wipes the Toshiba 32" HD (of a similar age). Yes they are different TV's but walk into any store and take a look at a FHD and HD in 32" when something decent is being played.
If you want to save money (or only use the TV for FTA channels) then, as has been mentioned, it really doesn't make any difference. If you want to play console games (360 or PS3), watch videos, hook it up to your PC, or browse pictures then get a full HD.
Best bet would be to buy a VIVO (or similar brand) full HD over this. The cheap versions of the name brands are probably no better (and older tech). Just check the warranty period (and terms) if you are concerned about the build quality.
Yep completely agree. This "there is no difference between FHD and HD on a 32 inch TV" is complete BS.
No, it's scientifically proven fact. Just calling it BS doesn't make you right dude!
Even from a distance images appear clearer (unless you have terrible eye sight).
I'm not sure if you realise just how subjective that sounds? I have better than 20/15 vision & I can't tell the difference between 720p & 1080p on a 42" screen once I'm back 3m or so! If you reckon you can do it on a 32" screen against the weight of evidence; well, who am I to cast aspersions about cognitive distortions! ;)
Here's a couple of things to read that might help: http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-charted-viewing-dis… and http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/?tag=moreResource…
Those links are old mate, it simply doesn't apply anymore.
"it's scientifically proven fact"
Go into a shop stand back 3 metres and watch some HD content on a FHD & a HD screen. It's complete BS that it's hard to tell the difference. Things have changed, there's no science needed to prove what everyone can clearly see.
"I can't tell the difference between 720p & 1080p on a 42" screen once I'm back 3m"
Now you're just being silly. Have you actually looked at panels and compared them in the last 2 years?Those links are old mate, it simply doesn't apply anymore.
Why, what happened…did we have an evolutionary spurt & suddenly gain a significant increase in visual accuity??? That's what we're talking about here. You didn't read the links at all, did you?
Things have changed, there's no science needed to prove what everyone can clearly see.
Again, what exactly has changed related to the ability of the human eye to resolve images at a given distance??? Yeah, science, who needs that BS, eh? :p
Now you're just being silly. Have you actually looked at panels and compared them in the last 2 years?
Ok, for the third time, what has changed in the last two years??? I've posted two links that explain scientifically why the human eye cannot resolve the difference, you guys have posted nothing but extremely subjective anecdotes…umm, you see where I'm going with this…
Perhaps my glance through those articles but I'm not sure where any part of their testing was "scientific". "We typically watch both sets for a while, with eyes darting back and forth between the two, looking for differences in the most-detailed sections, such as hair, textures of fabric, and grassy plains." Wow really scientific … pretty sure they are also opinion based pieces of information.
Have you ever watched a blu-ray (1080p content) on both … it's pretty clear to see the difference in detail (the reflections off the glass in Avatar come to mind). Not sure if improvements in LED and refresh rate technology may have helped clear up the blur that used to exist on 50Hz 1080p LCD's
I think we'll agree to disagree. I'm quite happy to keep paying that little extra for my TV's that can display a decent resolution (and apparently continue wasting my money). If you are happy with your HD TV well that's great also. (… and no I didn't give your comment a negative vote, I'm enjoying the conversation).
The simple fact of the matter is that the knowledge of limitations to human visual accuity and the ability of the eye to resolve images is scientifically verified fact, period. Tables & articles like the ones I've linked to are merely distillations of that science for the masses.
It wasn't rocket surgery to extrapolate a more scientifically biased search for the kind of info in the simple links I've posted, simply burying your heads in the sand again regarding the facts doesn't negate the limitations.
Please, what have either of you guys offered in the way of evidence of any sort to back up your assertions? Yeah, question my links all you like, but at least they've been provided for some reference. Honestly, feel free to offer me a link to a reputable source that refutes the very simple (and verifiable) facts that I've proffered & I'll gladly STFU! ;)
We can agree to disagree, sure; but the harsh reality is that you are wrong. If you had two identical 32" (or 42" for that matter) TVs with only the resolution different, at a normal viewing distance (~3m) you would not be able to see a difference, end of story! Depending on how well your set scales images, you could test this by doing a 'Pepsi Challenge' & watching identical content at both 720p & 1080p resolutions. Again, the reality is that you simply cannot do an end-run around the resolution limitations of the human eye at given distances. If you can see any difference it is not due to the resolution, it is due to other factors like contrast or colour balance etc…which is another topic entirely!
P.S. Don't worry, I don't care about the negs…I'm used to them at OzB when the truth flies in the face of hype! :)
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It's not rocket science dude, you just need to have a look for yourself.
The cameras used have improved greatly and this reflects in the images displayed on screen. There's a lot more HD content available now then there was 2 years ago.
I could go on but you obviously believe the internet more then going and looking for yourself. (Which you'd probably dispute even while standing in the the store seeing the stark differences in person, no doubt.)
I have read the articles years ago, which is why I bought a HD panel, which I regretted after a few months because even at 3+ metres back I can see artefacts & blurring. Which isn't present on ((most)) FHD panels. I actually did research with my own eyes, and I know for a fact there's a notable difference now days. Simple as that. You are wrong.
Why do you think they keep pushing the envelope in regards to resolution if it didn't mean anything and no one could tell the difference?
It's not rocket science dude, you just need to have a look for yourself.
Umm, I've got two FHD sets @ 32" & 55"…I get to look every day.
The cameras used have improved greatly and this reflects in the images displayed on screen. There's a lot more HD content available now then there was 2 years ago.
Utterly irrelevant to this argument.
I could go on but you obviously believe the internet more then going and looking for yourself. (Which you'd probably dispute even while standing in the the store seeing the stark differences in person, no doubt.)
This nonsense really undermines your case Koonit, if you think you can tell a real difference between 720p & 1080p in a store with countless other variables at play, then you're kidding yourself. [edit] See the following point for clarification!
I have read the articles years ago, which is why I bought a HD panel, which I regretted after a few months because even at 3+ metres back I can see artefacts & blurring. Which isn't present on ((most)) FHD panels.
If you're seeing artifacts & blurring at 720p then it's got nothing to do with resolution mate! This is the problem, you guys simply don't know what you're seeing. You're mistaking poor set calibration, inept overall setup or mediocre image scaling for differences in resolution…they are entirely separate issues!
I actually did research with my own eyes, and I know for a fact there's a notable difference now days. Simple as that. You are wrong.
Ok, so all of the cognitive psychologists, biologists, & ophthalmologists who publish data to corroborate the resolution limitations of the human eye are wrong & you are right based on what you saw in a shop??? Congrats bro! :p
Why do you think they keep pushing the envelope in regards to resolution if it didn't mean anything and no one could tell the difference?
That's not at all what this debate is about, and to grossly oversimplify it like that is naive at best! But to answer your question, two words…marketing hype on 32" sets to fool suckers! I suppose you think 100Hz is the beez-kneez too?
Seriously though, find me one single piece of evidence from a reputable source that suggests that the human eye can percieve a difference between 720p & 1080p on a 32" TV at a sensible viewing distance & I'll gladly concede the argument to you. I can find thousands in a google search to support the contrary, yet I'm only asking you for ONE! :)
lol….site is being ozbargained
"High traffic volumes please come back later"lol….site is being ozbargained
Dick Smith?! I think they can handle it. Unless the server has been downsized.
i had this tv! its awesome it prints REAL $100 BILLS FROM USB SLOTS!! LOL!
I don't want a $100 bill from this tv! The price would be $399 then!! No bargain!
Bargain! I bought one for the garage and one for the bathroom. I paid 1.2k for a Sammy 32" 720p only 4 years ago (which I thought was a bargain) for the kids bedroom and it's perfect for them.
In the bathroom??? What so you can watch TV from the loo with the door open :)
32", it's to small for toilet!
He said bathroom. So he can watch TV while having a bath, unless you think he does in the bath what some people do in a swimming pool !
Maybe your money would be better spent on books or a kindle, kobo etc for the kids, or some visits to our museums and art galleries. Will your kids thanks you when they grow up to be illiterate?
I have a similar FullHD/1080p version of this TV from the BigW PS3 bundle sale.
If you use it as a PC monitor then you DEFINITELY want FullHD - 720p on this size monitor would be a joke.
Same for PS3/BluRay - there is definitely a discernible difference even at a distance of 1-2m.
If all you watch is FTA TV then you obviously don't care and would probably be happy with almost any LCD TV.
Considering it was possible to get the KDL32CX520 from DSE for $339 (albeit after some vouchers/discounts, see http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/58694), I wouldn't bother with this TV.
Do you have the CX520 model?
No I think mine is the KDL32EX400 - no internet connectivity.
It also looks like JB was willing to deal on the CX520 and pricematched someone's receipt in the other thread for $311 (plus $89 for 4 year warranty).
Whats the warranty on this TV and what delivery costs?
where are these Sony's made? Japan/Thailand\China???
I have the exact model in the garage and it is made in malaysia.
OP "Beats buying crap Sanyo" LOL Sanyo are better built than Sony who have the highest otb failure rate at a local JB. Sony are also reknown for fta weak signal gain as mentioned above, have been ever since crt days. Sanyo would kill it but maybe with not as pretty a bezel. I would most likely choose the Vivo above it also if longevity is of any importance.
No way with Sanyo. Unless you're sitting smack bang in front, the viewing angle is awful. Contrast, colour all falls apart 1mm from dead centre
FHD were less than $50 diff a few month back, if you were lucky enough to purchase (http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/58563). I am using the CX520 as a PC monitor from 1 meter away and it works nicely, initially i thought i would only use it as movies/game monitor but text and web browsing work well.
Only thing i would like on the CX520 model is USB RECord/DVR like they offer on the same TV in UK.
If any CX520 owner or anyone in general would like to help persuade Sony to add this feature in the AU model please
EMAIL SONY AT:
[email protected]I checked the BX and it doesn't seem they offer USB recording in AU or UK.
Its quite sad that Sony criples the TV in the Australia region. PVR record should really be a standard feature on all smart TVs. I emailed Sony back in december, if we all do it maybe Sont will listen.
Nice work FatBelly :), hopefully they will release a new firmware with the PVR feature enabled
Not bad, you can get a thinner LED 32in FULL HD 1080p from Kogan for $369.
You get a Kogan from Kogan.
agreed, kogan :(
you can buy bogan, or you can buy sony. Chalk and cheese
This is SONY bit of a difference over Kogan
if you bought your tv from dse, i believe they have a no questions asked 2 weeks return policy. even if you simply changed your mind, their POLICY is to smile and give you a refund. surprised nobody else has posted this comment.
No this is not correct. They no longer offer it.
even if you simply changed your mind, their POLICY is to smile and give you a refund.
Yeah now they just laugh at you.
Depending on your use, you can most definitely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a screen this size (and even much smaller). In a living room if you're sitting 3+ metres away most people aren't going to see a difference, and the ones who do wouldn't see a big enough difference for it to effect them. But if you're like me and doubling the screen up as a computer monitor and sitting within a metre of it, the difference is going to be absolutely massive.
IMO the best part of cheap LCD's is being able to use them as huge screen computer monitors… and for a computer monitor 1080p is the bare minimum.
A shame it's not LED! Even if the LED was say, $375 it would've been a terrific price!
God people are chugging the Kool Aid hard these days.
LED, 100Hz panels, IPS, 3D TV, I've got to have it all!LED > LCD is not a hard and fast rule.
There are numerous LCD panels which perform far better and have far deeper contrast ratios and blacks than LED panels.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-ln52b750/4505…
"This set outperforms the company's edge-lit LED-based LCD displays in most areas, including black-level performance and picture uniformity, and produced a better picture than any other LCD we've tested, aside from last year's LED-backlit models that utilize local dimming"LED backlighting is an emerging technology and it is still not dominant over LCD in terms of manufacturer uptake, which is why you pay a premium for it.
There are many factors affecting the quality of an LED panel that vary from model to model. Direct mounting vs edge mounting, white vs colour spectrum light, hence I why I say LED LCD's do not by default conquer all CCFL LCDs.
We don't drink Kool aid here at OzBargains!
That article is like 2 years old. led backlit tvs are like.. 2 years old. Are these problems not rectified?
Are these problems not rectified?
No, they are not rectified.
"This a good price for a name brand Telly. Beats buying crap Sanyo, Vivo etc."
There are only 5 major manufacturers of LCD panels in the world:
1. Samsung
2. LG
3. AU Optronics
4. CMO/Innolux
5. SharpSony and Samsung panels are both produced in the same industrial parks.
Yet note the ridiculously high mark-ups for the latter brand.Get a clue thank you.
That's 5 actually
Ha, nice edit
Everyone's a genius on the internet!
Consider all the cheap no name brands use Samsung panels.. Just something to ponder. ;)
I like to stick to -
Sony
Samsung
SharpI call it the three 3's in LCD / LED TVs :)
All Negs and no replies makes OzBargain a dull place.
i just brought the Sony KDL40CX520 (40 ") for $499 at DSE. I thought it was a good price.
Nice work ShiningStars, Only thing i would like on the CX520 model is USB Record/PVR like they offer on the same model TV in UK. (http://www.sony.co.uk/product/tv-80-32-lcd/kdl32cx520bu#/Tec…)
As a new CX520 owner who i guess would like to be able use his USB to record aswell as play, would like to help persuade Sony to add this feature in the AU model please
EMAIL SONY AT:
[email protected]Just tell them you see PVR function is available in UK and would like the same functionality here in AU.
brought lol
Anyone tell me how to use a Woolies staff discount card on DSE for this TV? I have no idea
Put your card number as an everyday rewards card
The secret handshake you were taught at the Woolies induction has to be performed with the cashier and verified by two, non-related witnesses.
They then draw some blood by pricking your finger and you hold the wound over a candle while reciting that you promise to give your soul to Woolworths for all of eternity, and to never, ever rack up discounts on your card for other people; lest you burn in hell for all of eternity.
Or on planet Earth you simply hand over your discount card, they scan it, the discount is automatically applied to the total of your item/s purchased.
plasma is better if you don't have a bright room LOL
Thanks mate, I picked one up this arvo. Anyone have settings for calibration?
Combine with http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/62648 for those shopping at a Westfield to receive a 20 dollar gift card.
Not too bad for 280 :)
^ True ozbargainer haha damn why didn't I think of that
For those who purchased this TV, did you get the extended warranty?
Here is a tip for DSE extended warranty, when they offer it to you at the checkout decline it the first time. More often than not they will offer it to you again just before you swipe your credit card at a significantly lower rate. If they don't and you want the extended warranty say you "changed your mind" on the warranty just before you swipe.
Where did the '1080p is better for PS3/Xbox 360' quote come from? Most games are developed in 720p then upscaled so there's very little difference.
Also Rather than a resolution bump PS3/XBOX would benefit far more from higher anti-aliasing and bumping up the general graphical settings like you do on PC… just saiyan. Though that isn't really their market.
Can anyone confirm if this TV support 1:1 pixel mapping via HDMI?
I'll wait until 2k and 4k tvs come out… until then, my CRT is just fine. Too many digital blocks on tvs right now. Anyone watched any moving water on lcd tvs?
Nice price, +1. Shame about the language used. jipped or gypped has been used as a term to describe when one has received less than they paid for. Most people do not realize it's a racist term that stems from nomadic 'gypsies' who are stereotyped as thieving criminals. - Source Urban Dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gypped
I think you'll find that many colloquial or slang terms used nowadays with aplomb by most people have roots in one derogatory form or another. The difference is that regardless of etymology, the context of their usage in mainstream society has evolved, along with their linguistic connotations. Pragmatically speaking, many of these words no longer carry the original racial or cultural slur either contextually or semantically.
Taking umbrage at all of the ones that meet this criteria would be a full-time job! ;)
The terms idiot and imbecile originally referred exclusively to mentally-handicapped people.
Are you going to stop using those words too?
And secondly, Urban Dictionary as a source…? facepalm.jpg
Like you've never told someone to " eff off"
I have, I just did then to a cat in my back yard
I didn't know cats had mating laws like humans…
Ouch, no humour around OzB nowadays…
I'm sure Twisty would have translated it to cat language, which I believe is a form of sign language; however, instead of using the hands, the message to a cat is sent from the feet…the most popular statement is a swift boot to the feline rear end! :p
Nice price. Only thing that puts me off is not full hd and its 9cm thick but if apart from that, nice price!