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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X Desktop Processor (4.9GHz, 16 Cores, Socket AM4) $1164 Delivered @ Harris Technology eBay

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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X Desktop Processor (4.9GHz, 16 Cores, Socket AM4) $1164 Delivered @ Harris Technology eBay
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James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 13:36 ebay.com.au (1205 clicks)
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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core AM4 3.40 GHz Unlocked CPU Processor
Number of Cores: 16 - Number of Threads: 32
Base Clock: 3.40 GHz - Max Boost Clock: Up to 4.90 GHz
Total L2 Cache: 8MB - Total L3 Cache: 64MB
Socket: AM4 - PCI Express® Version: PCIe 4.0

Lower than RRP price $1249.
5900X also a good deal but it's higher than RRP which should be $859.

Check that out on Harvey Norman which should be RRP posted but no stock.

5950x
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-desktop-cp…
5900x
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/amd-ryzen-5-5900x-desktop-cp…

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  • AdamFury on 14/05/2021 - 13:41
    +6

    Great CPU deals recently. If only I could get a decently priced GPU!

  • Cmaz on 14/05/2021 - 13:46
    +1

    Hi guys
    Just wondering what is the major use case scenario for this cpu. Seems pretty popular but dont know what will be real life use case. If someone can please shed some light

    • lawyerz on 14/05/2021 - 13:49

      video rendering is probably a major one. working with large datasets also require a decent CPU..

      Ultimately its a trade off with time though, if you have the time, a slower CPU will just achieve the same thing just longer, sometimes much longer.

      for gaming, CPU bound games would probably benefit in performance..

      • gamerkonks on 14/05/2021 - 14:46
        +1

        Only if the CPU bound game has a multithreaded workload.

      • Oxxy on 14/05/2021 - 16:43
        +2

        Virtualization is another use case.

    • Lps on 14/05/2021 - 13:49
      +7

      Like me, just looking for an excuse.

      • qwijibo on 14/05/2021 - 14:40
        +5

        I used to be like that - trying to justify stupidly expensive computer gear on a rational basis. Then I realised that e-peen value was its own reward.

        YOLO and all that.

        • DanielP2 on 14/05/2021 - 15:04
          +3

          And now I have a 16 core CPU and 64gb ram in my gaming / Web browsing pc. At least my 6 Chrome tabs will have all the resources they need

          • DmytroP on 14/05/2021 - 15:33

            @DanielP2: 6 chrome tabs could eat 64GB of RAM, but much less likely would use all 16 cores / 32 threads.

            • DanielP2 on 14/05/2021 - 16:53

              @DmytroP: Crap, I'm already using all 4 dimm slots. I'll have to get 256gb on my next build

              • DmytroP on 14/05/2021 - 17:28

                @DanielP2: Unfortunately, this one supports only 128GB (I have installed 4x32GB to 5950x based build, works well), you would need to go at least to threadrippers or xeons/epycs to support 256GB or more.

                • qwijibo on 14/05/2021 - 18:11

                  @DmytroP: I wish I could find some ex-server farm epyc gear - a dual socket EATX board that could take 256GB or so would satiate my e-peen status for a while.

                  • DanielP2 on 14/05/2021 - 18:24
                    +1

                    @qwijibo: too bad i cant top it off with quad SLI any more. Not that it was ever really viable for much besides benchmark runs. These days i cant even get my hands on a single card anyway :P

                    • DmytroP on 15/05/2021 - 23:54

                      @DanielP2: It's funny the last two comments described the second system I'm using for deep learning experiments, an old server dual socket Xeons with a larger amount of RAM (much cheaper DDR3 ECC) and quad GPUs.

                      • DanielP2 on 16/05/2021 - 06:34

                        @DmytroP: yeh, but at least u are using it for something that makes use of the hardware :)

    • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 13:50
      -7

      You don't know what CPUs are for?

      • g1 on 14/05/2021 - 13:53
        +5

        I think the question is what is the benefit of a CPU with this many cores because 3600 and 5600X are much cheaper and perform well.

        • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 14:07
          -4

          Well yes but, the question at hand is similar to asking what is 128gb of dram for instead of the 64gb variant.

          • This CPU has more cores and a higher clock speed.
          • The additional cores would be associated with being able to run more at once without being bottlenecked.
          • The multithreading on the cores would associate to higher performance output, assuming the application itself supports it.
          • The clock speeds represent the speed at which each core completes its task.
          • The L cache size is relatively the same, but it has been changed drastically in it's layout, causing the CPU to be able to access it immediately in all circumstances, as opposed to the previous Gen where there was a 50% chance that it had a latency time attributed to the output.
          • 9839002 on 14/05/2021 - 18:36

            @Beyond: What is the USE CASE, not the difference.

            • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 19:31

              @9839002: I understand the question, just it was a bad question, and to answer it would have encouraged a lifetime of answering the same redundant question when the individual is capable of answering it for himself if they have some blanks filled in for them.

              If I had a 24MP camera, then there was a post for a 36MP camera, and I dropped a post saying "What application is this camera with a higher MP for?

              Now, with that sort of post, it obviously means I don't know what has changed in the camera, besides some numbers on the spec sheet.

              So, even though I was being a dick with my very first post, that user still would have benefited from knowing what those spec changes did, and how it would compare to one he's already familiar with.

              Now, every time an expensive CPU drops, he's going to wonder, "well, what's this one for?"

              At least g1 tried to list a feasible reason as to why he was asking it.

    • AssBargain on 14/05/2021 - 13:54
      +2

      Most common one is VFX work if you're a 2D/3D artist

    • James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 13:55
      +3

      For me personally, its for a research analysis purpose using parallel CPUs to compute faster.

      • g1 on 14/05/2021 - 13:56

        Parallel CPUs? You have a multi socket Ryzen motherboard? Or do you mean parallel cores?

        • James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 13:59

          sorry, you are correct! But I did use 2 CPUs to calculate, Xeon motherboard workstation.

      • archieduh on 14/05/2021 - 14:37

        What is the software or program that you run that needs this? Just curious.

        • James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 23:29
          +2

          ABAQUS Explicit Computing.
          With 32 thread I can run two 16 core job at the same time.

    • ln28909 on 14/05/2021 - 14:09
      -1

      Chia plotting

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2021 - 14:26
      +3

      Minesweeper

    • akbal on 14/05/2021 - 14:37
      -1

      Plotting Chia

    • Lesco Brandon on 14/05/2021 - 17:07

      Docker

    • joeu on 14/05/2021 - 20:42
      -1

      mining monero

    • stephendt on 15/05/2021 - 09:44

      Games and stuff

    • Chronical V on 15/05/2021 - 16:55

      3d work (rendering, simulations) and i think machine learning. you really don't need anything this powerful for games, as you're almost always gpu bound, and when you are cpu bound your frames are probably already so high that there isn't much of a need for something like this unless you're competitive (or youre playing something both cpu/gpu intensive like microsoft flight sim etc.)

      • jmcc on 15/05/2021 - 21:38
        +1

        As someone who's worked in 3D and now ML, I want one, but it'd really only be for the hell of it. For both workloads, spending the money on RAM and coughing up for GPU's is way better dollar per time saved. It's just that GPU's are so damn expensive. But all the GPU accelerated rendering engines are so much quicker than CPU for basically the same output, even more-so now that RTX has been integrated into them. For ML, XGBooost, Tensorflow and pyTorch (and keras but the others are much more popular) all have GPU acceleration and are way faster with it.

        But even with a top tier rig, render farms or databricks again are probably a better way to spend a grand if you are in deep with either. Your main rig is then still able to function, meaning you can work, code, test while trianing or rendering, you get results quicker meaning you can iterate faster, and once you work in either field you are going to be using/relying on those tools anyway so better to gain experience learning their quirks early.

        • g1 on 16/05/2021 - 00:11

          Where would you stop with CPU for ML (with access to RTX GPU)? 5600X? 5800X? 5900X?

          • jmcc on 16/05/2021 - 00:48

            @g1: Depends what you are trying to do, where you are at, what trade-offs you have to make, you're missing a key component though, MORE RAM. If you can get a 5600X with 32GB of RAM vs a 5800X with 16GB of RAM, I would go the 5600X. If you have an RTX GPU I'd be ok with a 5600X probably. Part of the reason I didn't buy this closer to when it came out was I am still wondering if I'd like to be able to go over 128GB at some point (needing a threadripper)

            Early on you will probably use more CPU, the models and packages are easier to implement and iterate with. GPU can be a bit finicky, and generally work better on Linux systems, so that is a consideration. Less CPU will make things a bit slower (but if you have GPU then it's not much of a difference, CPU only orchestrates really), not enough RAM though and you aren't even going to be able to open the dataset / engineer variables / train the model because at some point alot of information is going to be loaded into RAM. There are ways around this, but it's harder to learn the basics if you are busy trying learn how to work around RAM limitations, it's probably the limiting factor I see people run into most early on.

            RTX isn't really the thing that makes the difference, it's the tensor cores that RTX GPU's have for ML workloads (for rendering it's the ray tracing optimisation moreso than tensor cores AFAIK). I can't remember the ratio, but I think it's like 1 tensor clock = 32 cuda clocks. Even old GPU's are faster than CPU but tensors step it up again. A handy thing for ML is that most models are built for single/half precision, double precision has always been shitty on Geforce and reserved for QUADRO and Teslta cards (by drivers I think) and was one of the issues with GPU accelerated rendering.

            note: I've kinda assumed you are just getting started, sorry if not.

            • g1 on 16/05/2021 - 04:07

              @jmcc: I was surprised by some comments that 5950X would be beneficial for ML. I have thought that once the workload is offloaded to the GPU then something like 5600X would be sufficient. I was wondering if I was missing something. So wanted to check with someone else as to what they thought.

  • cycleri3 on 14/05/2021 - 13:59

    Can a b450 motherboard vrms handle this?

    • James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 14:00
      +1

      Nah, better go with mid-range x570 and above

    • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 14:16
      +2

      A b550 will also be fine, you can probably find a cheaper variant that has had a revision this year and had the topology improved.

    • ln28909 on 14/05/2021 - 14:18

      vrm is not really chipset dependent

    • ethan961 on 14/05/2021 - 17:39

      Some yes, some not really. Just as there are X570 boards that have worse VRMs than some B450 boards. Best to do some research, but as a bare minimum any board that doesn't have heatsinks on the VRMs handling the CPU core should definitely be avoided for a chip like this. Better boards like the B450 Tomahawk/Mortar will be more than fine unless you're planning on hardcore overclocking.

    • FrozenFred on 14/05/2021 - 20:23

      Now I feel like getting one just to test on my msi b450i ac gaming mini itx Motherboard XD

      • HPdeskjet on 15/05/2021 - 17:51
        +1

        The msi b450i has good VRMs - I have my 3950x OC'd to stock 5950x levels on the b450i strix, which has slightly weaker stages, and stability/VRM temps is solid.

        • FrozenFred on 15/05/2021 - 19:10

          Wow that's amazing! I knew it had good vrms and had seen good reviews on it but don't think any of them running the very top top with ocs too!

    • HPdeskjet on 15/05/2021 - 17:50

      Depends on the board, good budget stuff like the b450i strix and b550m/itx ac can handle it OC'd - b550>x570 anyways, since you don't get a crappy repurposed io die as chipset and you get an actual chipset.

  • malcom on 14/05/2021 - 14:09
    +1

    I'm getting a price of $1164 at checkout from Harris Technology using code PPSS1. Seems like a pretty good deal!

  • overpriced on 14/05/2021 - 14:09
    +2

    Dear AMD
    When it reaches $200 (or when someone tosses out their old computer), I'm there.

    • ozbking on 14/05/2021 - 20:15
      +1

      Yes, I bought the 2700X when it was $199… still waiting for anything remotely similar

  • Sheld on 14/05/2021 - 14:14

    Shows as $1164 for me

    • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 14:17

      Keep talking…

    • James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 14:18

      Updated

  • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 14:19

    Oh, they literally just lowered there price, that's why.

    I have the old and new tab open.

    • James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 14:24

      Yeah，made me have to cancel and reorder with money locked for 3 days lol

      • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 14:27

        Oh there's nothing worse. I just realized you posted this deal, I appreciate that.

        I had been looking for a 5900x initially for 900 or less with Afterpay as a payment method, due to the fact that everyone seems to be getting delays in their purchases , and I didn't want to be completely out of pocket, whilst not even having a CPU to fiddle with.

  • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 14:24
    +4

    Just ordered one.

    I was going to go with the 5900x for $904, but that additional $60 drop in the price on the 5950x was just what it took to twist my arm.

    Although unfortunately, my Afterpay had to eat this one. I'll be going without a reasonable GPU for a while I imagine, lol.

    • James Wong on 14/05/2021 - 14:30
      +1

      If you check the price on HV you will see that the RRP price for them are $1249 for 5950x and $849 for 5900x, I definitely recommend go to 5950x at this time.
      5900x will be a good deal under $800.

      • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 14:36
        +1

        Well a lot of the benefits to the CPU are associated with the single thread scores, and the 5950x doesn't do.
        The 5950x will have much higher temperatures, which is why the base clock speed is 0.3Ghz lower than the 5950x, whilst the 5950x can go up to 4.9Ghz, only being 0.1Ghz higher, assuming you have A LOT more cooling applied to it.

        I did order the 5950x myself, but I still recommend the 5900x over the 5950x to a vast majority of the users.

        • Beyond on 14/05/2021 - 19:17

          I can't seem to edit my post, there were a few mistakes due to memory issues (PC memory, not human) at the time, here's what it should have said, I imagine.

          Well a lot of the benefits to the CPU are associated with the single thread scores, and the 5950x doesn't particularly do that better than the 5900x.

          The 5950x will have much higher temperatures, which is why the base clock speed is 0.3Ghz lower than the 5900x.
          The 5950x can go up to 4.9Ghz, whilst the 5900x goes to 4.8Ghz, only being 0.1Ghz higher.
          If you got the 5950x and the 5900x up to 4.7Ghz, the temperatures on the 5950x would be much higher.

          I did order the 5950x myself, but I still recommend the 5900x over the 5950x to a vast majority of the users.

          • BargainKen on 15/05/2021 - 09:30

            @Beyond: Cant see how the 5950x would run hotter than 5900x given equal workloads considering they're pretty much the same CPU with one having faulty cores lasered off (2 per chiplet)… I'd say any temp diffs are down to silicon lottery. Try undervolting if you wanna get temps a little lower. YMMV

            • Beyond on 20/05/2021 - 12:24

              @BargainKen: I haven't got my CPU yet, it's expected to arrive in the mail today. When I ordered the 5950x, it was from this bargain.

              I understand about the silicon lottery, though maybe it's the additional active cores producing more heat…

        • HPdeskjet on 15/05/2021 - 17:55
          +1

          This is completely wrong, the 5950x and 5900x have identical stock PPTs and the 5950x is better binned on CCD0, which means that in a lot of use cases the 5950x will actually be cooler or similar, with the 5900x only being cooler if you customise edge the VF curve to juuust stable.

          The advertised frequencies don't really represent the speed of the CPU either, you're never going to get 4.9 all core stock or with PBO, only light loads - better to check benchmarks instead.

          • Beyond on 20/05/2021 - 12:28

            @HPdeskjet: Yes I know the frequencies don't represent the item as an individual, but when comparing the two, you can include the two, the difference in loss of expected performance is similar.

            One of my large circles of trades mates all got 5900x and 5950x, the heat results were consistent in terms of being higher and lower, obviously, each 950 and 900 weren't identical with the other chips of themselves.

  • archieduh on 14/05/2021 - 14:40

    Wow. $1106 approx after cashback by gift cards.

    • great-price on 14/05/2021 - 17:31

      Where is the best place to get discounted gift cards at the moment?

      • archieduh on 14/05/2021 - 17:48

        I only know of Shopback app Swap gift cards of 500 or so that have 5% cashback. And swap supports ebay.
        Just note ebay limits gift cards on a sale. I think 6 or 7.

  • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2021 - 15:12
    +1

    So on the fence about this, but it's below RRP, available in Australia… maybe next week there will be a lot more of them, maybe there'll be another drought for 6 months. Bought one.

    Interesting. There were "only 9 available" before I purchased. Now apparently there are more than 10 available…

  • fafsdfadfabcfbc on 14/05/2021 - 15:44
    +2

    I need to stop browsing ozbargain, buying more cores than I need

  • RedHab on 14/05/2021 - 16:32

    A question from a non-gamer: Do faster CPUs and GPUs make it easier to win at multi-player games?

    I was wondering if someone could shed some light on this.

    • tephra on 14/05/2021 - 16:44
      -4

      in general yes… ie a 5950x+3090 will allow a gamer to be better than a 2700x+3060

      however, depending on game and PC setup (specifically monitor resolution), you will get to the point of diminishing returns pretty quickly… ie a 5600x+3080 isn't going to be substantially worse than a 5950x+3090.

      all that being said, a better gamer is going to pawn a poorer gamer regardless of rig.

    • Autonomic on 14/05/2021 - 16:45

      Marginally. Unless you have a very low end system. If you're taking any game seriously you're going to be playing low settings anyway.

    • killingtime on 14/05/2021 - 17:08

      I asked my triathlon coach if I needed more gears on my bike, he said it was the cyclist not the bike that determined the speed

      • ozbking on 14/05/2021 - 20:16

        Only true if it’s an electric bike isn’t used

    • 9839002 on 14/05/2021 - 18:40

      Not really. Diminishing returns.

    • ln28909 on 15/05/2021 - 07:12

      Yes, even playing cs go on a 3080 is a much much smoother experience and easier to awp flick than with 2060

  • mckayver on 14/05/2021 - 16:59
    +4

    Can't believe I'm about to say good deal.

    That's a good deal.

  • FrozenFred on 14/05/2021 - 17:08
    +2

    I'll just browse ozbargain for my daily bargain fix. Oh a 1100$ cpu. Yeah totally bargain! Get in on it!!! XD

    • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2021 - 19:22

      Exactly, how many even buy this CPU, lol. Yet it gets so many upvotes ;)

      • FrozenFred on 14/05/2021 - 20:19
        +1

        Up vote by trolls to get the rich to spend their money and $t1mul8 da economy, probably.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2021 - 20:27
          +1

          lol

      • g1 on 14/05/2021 - 21:14
        +3

        It is a good price. Lower than $70/core. Its a deal for those that do buy it.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/05/2021 - 21:16
          -1

          Would I upvote a rolls royce cause it went on sale for 50K less? Probably not. I would probably upvote deals that is relevant to most people so that they end up on the front page. Not a rolls royce or a 32Thread CPU.

      • ln28909 on 15/05/2021 - 01:09

        High demand is expected for these, they're very good for chia plotting and since the government subsidies you, it doesn't cost that much

  • nurbsenvi on 15/05/2021 - 01:37
    +2

    Damn… just bought them last week for $1299 fml

  • BargainKen on 15/05/2021 - 09:31

    Currently have a 3950x but tempted… damn. I keep mine well fed with work too so would be of some benefit.

    • l0nglive on 15/05/2021 - 14:34

      I read that ì you set up a second PC, you can offload some works there.
      Buy IT !

  • BargainKen on 17/05/2021 - 15:47
    +1

    Back in stock!

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