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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor TRAY Version (CPU only) $285 (Free Sydney C&C or + $8.16 Delivery) @ OnLine Computer

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor TRAY Version (CPU only) $285 (Free Sydney C&C or + $8.16 Delivery) @ OnLine Computer
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zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 14:52 onlinecomputer.com.au (1175 clicks)
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EDIT 25/01: If you live near Carlingford NSW, CCPU Computers is also listing the Ryzen 5 3600 TRAY for cheaper at $280 pick-up. They offer shipping as well, but require extra email communication.

Tray version, i.e. still legitimate stock but it is only the CPU, and no retailer packaging box nor fan included. It's very common in many countries in Asia. Thanks to the ACL, there's effectively no difference with regards to the warranty the retailer needs to provide for the CPU.

Now, tbh it isn't a great price, and likely a niche listing for people that are desperate for a 3600 and want the best price. Cheapest retail box with cooler is $30 more . However, if you don't mind waiting until Feb, getting it from Amazon US as in this post (the deal appears expired, but the Amazon listing is still valid, at here: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07STGGQ18?smid=A4XRJ8S0WXSO0) is the current cheapest at $287.27 delivered if you have Amazon Prime (at time of writing this post).

Free pick up at its Sydney store-front, or $8.16 shipping for the post codes I tested (20xx, 30xx, 40xx, 60xx).

Or if you prefer the Australian stock of the retail box packaging with the cooler, then so far it's cheaper here at $305.10 delivered from Computer Alliance (see this post).

EDIT: Price reverted and new end date is end of 17th Jan 2021
EDIT 22/01 AM: Back to "In Stock" availability.
EDIT 25/01 PM: Deal extended for another week.
EDIT 01/02 AM: Deal extended for another week.

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  • FW190 on 07/01/2021 - 14:59
    +11

    cpu on trays is still a thing?

    back in the days of computer fairs, you can go through the tray cpu and pick out the best overclockers (usually identified via their production/batch code posted by others on the internet)

    • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 15:00
      +1

      When CPU retail box SKU supplies are tight, apparently lol

    • poporange630 on 07/01/2021 - 15:25
      +5

      Still a big thing in some countries like China. Haven't heard it in recent years in Australia though.

      • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 18:35
        +4

        Yea, they are pretty much what OEMs/SIs get, which is what I assume the Ryzen Pro 4650G and 4750Gs APUs are too

    • tebbybabes on 07/01/2021 - 18:43
      +4

      I remember tray CPUs from back in the day too. In fact, in my current rig, it would have been useful to save a few $$ and not have to store an unused CPU fan.

      • zrmx on 08/01/2021 - 09:42
        +2

        It makes so much more sense with Tray versions too considering Intel had been dominating for the 10+ years or so before Ryzen came out, and Intel's stock fans are really trash considering its tray vs retail box price. Often for the difference in money, the aftermarket options are just better.

        • FW190 on 08/01/2021 - 11:28

          a good excuse to extract another $30 from you by "bundling" a $2 HSF with the cpu :)

    • Abaddon on 08/01/2021 - 10:30
      +1

      Picked mine up this morning. Unlike the CPU trays of old (which often had CPUs in clamshell in the tray) these feature no packaging at all, so you will probably want to bring a box with you (or ideally packaging from another Ryzen CPU).

  • selphie on 07/01/2021 - 14:59
    -7

    you can also find on aliexpress 3600 around $245 gst incl, no fan and be prepared to wait for shipping.

    • incipient on 07/01/2021 - 17:15
      +15

      And no warranty. Wouldn't ever risk buying a big part off Ali like this.

      • bazingaa on 07/01/2021 - 18:23
        -7

        haven't seen a burned CPU except my friend's old Athlon after a fan failure, do we really need warranty for a CPU ?

        • incipient on 07/01/2021 - 19:12
          +7

          A random "no idea how it was treated or if it's actually new" CPU from Ali? Yep. We need warranty =p

          • sunnysteve on 07/01/2021 - 19:22

            @incipient: return it if it's gone yellow, if it looks fine, who cares, cpu performance and stability don't degrade over time

            • incipient on 07/01/2021 - 21:39
              +2

              @sunnysteve: That's factually incorrect, the silicon will degrade over time, especially with higher temperatures. I think the gates break down? But don't quote me on that specifically haha

              It's more that I don't trust random Ali stock not to be, worst case, dodgy/poorly binned/reject stock. For a small saving of $30 or so, I wouldn't risk it for a brand new processor.

              https://www.anandtech.com/show/2468/6

              • sunnysteve on 07/01/2021 - 22:42

                @incipient: pretty sure linus did a video on this and his conclusion was something like it takes many decades or a life time to make a difference or something, oh well

                • Stalins Moustache on 08/01/2021 - 09:51

                  @sunnysteve: That all changed if these CPU's have been tested and chery picked by the seller though. ie if these CPUs have been OC'd (often really lazily with high voltages and high temps) and the lower binned CPUs are what the vendor sells.

                  I don't know if a larger seller would be doing this on any kind of scale, but it's definitely something that could happen on a smaller scale.

    • jasswolf on 07/01/2021 - 18:39
      +1

      Jumping onto this comment to point out that AMD are likely announcing new Zen 3 CPUs next week at CES.

      Might be worth waiting to buy a Ryzen 5600 or a 5600G.

  • ln28909 on 07/01/2021 - 15:00
    +2

    Shipping express $299+shipping

    • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 15:04
      +1

      Ooo, testing a few post codes, postage seems to be either $10.53 or $12.xx. So cheapest can be $309.53. So $16.37 difference between the delivered pricing, for the omitted cooler.

      I guess this just tells how sucky it is with current CPU pricings.

      • ln28909 on 07/01/2021 - 15:06
        -5

        Just buy intel lol, 10400f best bang for buck cpu on the market, even better than 3600 for gaming as well

        • johangules on 07/01/2021 - 15:08

          agreed. This price is very close to 10600k on sale, while 10600k totally beats 3600 without x

          • ln28909 on 07/01/2021 - 15:11
            +5

            @johangules: Pretty much intel is better value across the board, but no one is praising intel like they did with AMD

            10700k same price as 5600x, more cores

            10850k same price as 5800x, more cores

            Sure lose a little bit in single core, but more cores for the same price at negligible performance loss is a win

            • johangules on 07/01/2021 - 15:32
              -3

              @ln28909: You have to compare 10700k with 3700x and 10850k with 3900x (around $600)

              • ln28909 on 07/01/2021 - 15:59
                +1

                @johangules: I'm just trying to show how badly value the 5000 series cpu is beside the 5900x

            • Autonomic on 07/01/2021 - 15:35
              +7

              @ln28909: One other thing to consider is TDP.

              5600x is a 65W TDP processor.
              10700k is 125W.

              If you want a cool/quiet system you may still want to go AMD.

              • PlagueistheCheap on 07/01/2021 - 15:39
                +2

                @Autonomic:

                quiet system

                Not with that stock amd cooler

                • Autonomic on 07/01/2021 - 16:46
                  +7

                  @PlagueistheCheap: Goes without saying if you want a cool & quiet system you want a 3rd party cooler.

                  Not like this deal comes with a cooler anyway lol.

              • Austrian Oak on 07/01/2021 - 20:35

                @Autonomic: AMD's don't run cool/quiet. At stock with an aftermarket cooler on a 3700x, it's a struggle to keep it under 75 degrees C at full load. Just built a 10400f for my nephew with a cheap $40 cooler 65W (2 less cores i know) but doesn't even hit over 50 degrees full load and fan never spools past 600rpm whilst my 3700x is hitting 2k rpm.

                • Autonomic on 07/01/2021 - 23:07

                  @Austrian Oak: After doing some googling it turns out AMD and Intel both measure TDP in different ways so the same TDP doesn't mean they'd run at the same temps. I guess you have to look at each CPU individually :(

        • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 15:43
          +1

          I agree 10400F is better value currently (although I'd still say it isn't -that- great) even after platform cost, and gaming performance wise, it'll actually depend on your motherboard choice, which affects whether or not you can overclock the memory (a review: https://www.techspot.com/review/2032-intel-core-i5-10400/). However, I'd say they perform similar enough.

          10400F, $215, plus:
          - MSI Z490-A PRO $249 = $464

          3600, $310 (retail box with cooler), plus:
          - MSI B550-A PRO $229 = $539
          - MSI B450 Tomahawk ~$180 = $490

          • Jolakot on 07/01/2021 - 21:15

            @zrmx: As someone who just swapped from AMD to Intel after the disappointment of Zen 3; Z490 is x570 level (enthusiast), would be major overkill for an 10400F just as an x570 would be for a 3600.

            B460 is B550 level (standard, low/no overclocking), and the MSI B460M-A PRO is only $114, Tomahawk is $230.

            • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 22:14

              @Jolakot: You'll be limited to 2666 MHz RAM speed for 10th gen i5s, and 2933 MHz RAM speed 10th gen i7s if you go with B460.

              Motherboard quality wise (so generally VRM speaking), B550 boards are actually on par with X570 for the decent to premium tiers of boards. Practically, the special thing about X570 is really the higher amount of PCIe 4.0 lanes you'll get. So personally I put B550/X570 to be on the same tier quality wise. While I'll put intel's B460 and AMD B450 to be similar tier (even if platform feature wise, AM4/B450 actually has the advantage of allowing the user to run RAM at higher than 2666/2933 MHz).

              With the above reason, I'd say B460 boards are in a bit of an awkward spot, unless intel enables memory overclocking on them. If you want a proper upgrade path that isn't restraining or unneutered, Z490 will still be the way to go. If you don't really care and forgo the upgrade path, then H410 boards might help budgets further.

              • Jolakot on 07/01/2021 - 23:13
                +1

                @zrmx: Entirely true, but for the sort of system that would use an i5-10400F, RAM timings make close to 0 difference. It makes more of a difference for 10th gen than it used to, but the difference is still only measurable using high-end graphics cards, anything that would be paired with a $200 CPU won't make use of it. Hell look at the review, used a 2080ti and still barely showed a difference.

                B460 is absolutely in an awkward spot, the high end cuts into the Z490 price range, and the low end cuts into the H410 price range, doesn't really know what it wants to be. Makes absolutely 0 sense to buy a higher end B460 board when you can buy an Asrock Z490 for $185, but it also makes 0 sense to get a budget H410 when a budget B460 is often only $10-15 more (H410 A-PRO is $100, B460 A-PRO is $114). The extra ports alone are worth the small premium unless every dollar matters, and from the sounds of it B460 will be getting 11th gen support faster than H410.

                Bottom line is that for a budget gaming/productivity build, there is absolutely nothing that can rival an i5-10400F and budget B460/H410. The $100 saving alone could mean the upgrade from an RX580 to a 1660S, or 1660S to RX5600.

                • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 23:33

                  @Jolakot: Agree with all your points.

                  While RAM timings make insignificant benchmark difference, which likely not noticeable practically for the end user as well, the advantage still lies with a future upgrade path for those also wanting to just simply get a higher tier CPU that can just slot in. With 11th gen also compatible with the 400 series chipset, hopefully the higher end 10th gen CPUs won't maintain an absurdly high price (like how the previous i7s have been).

  • ggnarsil on 07/01/2021 - 15:16
    +3

    Who picked up the best quality die then leave the rest to noobs. Good job well done

  • pingMarky on 07/01/2021 - 15:19
    +2

    And they have AMD Ryzen 7 5800X in stock… Never the CPU I want

  • xuqi on 07/01/2021 - 15:29

    Do AMD tray CPU’s have the same warranty as their retail boxed units?

    I know that years ago the tray CPU’s only had 1yr warranty, and was only supported by the retailer.

    In the event they ceased trading, AMD didn’t provide direct RMA for their tray chips.

    • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 15:40

      As far as for retailers, considering the CPU is the same as the one in retail boxes, it is reasonable to expect them to have same consumer guarantee. With regards to whether the retailer will cease trading, hopefully not lol. While they have been around for a very long time, can't say never. Although in general I'd expect 2020 was actually a very strong year for the IT industry.

      • xuqi on 09/01/2021 - 15:17

        I had another look at the site, and they list "ONE YEAR Warranty." in large, bold, font, which differs from the normal 3yrs AMD warranty.

        • zrmx on 09/01/2021 - 18:44

          Yes that's what they listed. However, whatever they sell regardless of how many years warranty they claim, cannot disregard the Australian Consumer Law, which doesn't really have a specified time length. So if the product is the same, and the usage is the same, then I'd expect the product, when purchased brand new, should be expected to have the same warranty. If the need ever arises, you do still have rights under the ACL.

          In reality, CPUs rarely have defects that require warranty claim a few years down the track.

  • t3chshopper on 07/01/2021 - 17:15
    +2

    I'm so glad that I grabbed one of these with the wraith cooler, on the spur of the moment, when a ~$255 deal was posted back in July.

    The stock cooler is great - I can't hear my new PC running at all, so it's doing a pretty decent job.

    • WhyAmICommenting on 07/01/2021 - 21:18

      You must have some loud case fans lol.

      • t3chshopper on 08/01/2021 - 19:54

        Nope. As I said, I can't hear the PC at all. That includes case fans.

        Perhaps my Fractal Define R6 case has more to do with that than I thought.

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • kkkkkkkat on 07/01/2021 - 18:05
    +1

    Damn, honestly debating with myself whether to grab this right now or wait for 5600x restock.
    Only missing a cpu in my build.

    • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 18:09
      +1

      Pretty much one of the worst timings to get a CPU right now ^^""

      Pretty shocking how a lot of places are out of stock for many CPU SKUs

      • kkkkkkkat on 07/01/2021 - 18:10
        +2

        Worst timing for pc building in general tbh

    • rabbitbox on 07/01/2021 - 19:15

      I'm feeling the same way. This is my first pc build and everything else has arrived and I want to get started but I think wiser to hold off. 5600x is a much better and newer cpu than the 3600.

    • Abaddon on 08/01/2021 - 09:46
      +1

      If it means not gaming for an unknown period of time… I'd buy now. You could always sell it later.

      But apart from benchmarks, if gaming at more than 1080p, you probably won't notice the difference in performance, so it mainly comes down to power draw.

  • Yogojunzo on 07/01/2021 - 18:22
    +2

    Or get one from Amazon US, A$287.27 with Amazon prime free delivery.

    • Abaddon on 08/01/2021 - 15:24

      How? It's showing as $319 currently for me.

      • zrmx on 08/01/2021 - 16:24

        You need to select the seller to be Amazon US (so this link: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07STGGQ18?smid=A4XRJ8S0WXSO0), which is currently at $285.69.

        However, it's not in stock until late January, which then will take couple more weeks to get delivered into Australia. Also if you don't have Amazon Prime, there's $11.25 delivery (or not sure if the delivery charge stands nonetheless of Prime membership, can't test as I don't have Prime at the moment).

  • lookingforTV on 07/01/2021 - 18:33

    Having a no fan is a deal breaker for me.

    • Mistredo on 07/01/2021 - 18:53
      +2

      You can get fans very cheaply on Gumtree or Facebook Marketplace.

    • thacodemonkey on 10/01/2021 - 17:05

      yeah I see them on fb marketplace all the time for like $20.. I've been waiting for them all to disappear so I can list mine lol

  • ddr0001 on 07/01/2021 - 20:25
    +1

    Are the 2600 and 3600 fans identical?

    • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 20:38
      +2

      Yes, they have the same stock cooler, which is the wraith stealth.

      • ddr0001 on 07/01/2021 - 23:34

        Thanks.

  • freemoneyhunter on 07/01/2021 - 20:34

    Thanks but I'll think I wait until Umart gets more 3 3100's in stock for $160.

  • Aerith-Waifu on 07/01/2021 - 21:21

    why would people buy this instead of the one with the cooler?

    • Abaddon on 07/01/2021 - 22:10
      +1

      Closest Australian competitor is charging $27 more. You are almost at the cost of a better cooler there.

      Also if anyone is upgrading they probably have a cooler to use.

      I have a $50 Hyper 212. It's lived through 2 builds now (currently keeping a 1600X @ 4Ghz nice and cool which is a 95W part which AMD said the Wraith Spire couldn't cool).

      TLDR: You can get something cooler and quieter for not much more money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=223&v=lsmqplMjTdo&feature=yo…

      • Aerith-Waifu on 08/01/2021 - 00:07

        Thanks for the info. Really good information.

      • thacodemonkey on 10/01/2021 - 17:10

        Yeah I've got the Hyper Evo 212 led which has a dual-fan in push-pull. Cost me about 60 off ebay, not as quiet as the original but keeps it cool :) The downside is that I've got a stock cooler in a box that I don't need taking up space.

  • Abaddon on 07/01/2021 - 21:31

    This or 3700X for $488?

    I'm mainly gaming with it, and don't want to throw out my Zen one motherboard until AMD give us a new socket and DDR spec, but even overclocked my 1600X isn't cutting it now (VR, ARMA CPU shitbaggery and a hopeful move from GTX1080 to a 3080 once stock normalises).

    Decisions decisions

    • zrmx on 07/01/2021 - 23:40

      If you are mainly gaming, you don't really need the extra cores of 3700X, which is mostly helpful for its better productivity capability. I'd say save the money for your GPU or the next full platform upgrade.

      Also by "Zen one motherboard" I assume yours is a B350 board? The B350 and B450 CPU support has really been a golden generation.

      • Hornpub on 08/01/2021 - 01:29

        gaming here having 2600 and B350

        does this work on B350?
        asus-itx board.

        • zrmx on 08/01/2021 - 09:36

          Yea the Ryzen 3600 will work on B350 provided you've updated to a BIOS that support it (assuming your board is ROG Strix B350-I, then according to ASUS, any BIOS from 4801 will support it. Although I recommend updating to latest one for better performances fixes https://rog.asus.com/au/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b35…).

      • Abaddon on 08/01/2021 - 09:43

        Yeah I came to the same conclusion. Not worth almost double the price for an extra 7ish percent frames (and less at 1440p).

        Yeah B350. Such a shame they won't let us use them for th 5600x, even as a one-way BIOS upgrade. That would have been golden age right there. Kind of stings after us having to put up with all the first gen Ryzen memory incompatibility bullshit.

  • VoidIvory on 07/01/2021 - 22:02

    I thought tray version are not for retail purposes, if they get caught would they get in big trouble?

    • dlovep on 08/01/2021 - 21:57

      why not ? you can order Intel CPU by tray since 90s…

  • Aleks2116 on 08/01/2021 - 12:36

    Please don’t go for this. This is not a good deal for a tray CPU when you can pay an extra $15-25 for a packaged CPU that comes WITH a cpu cooler.

    • Abaddon on 08/01/2021 - 14:35

      I already bought one this morning, but not sure I understand your concern.

      The closest price I could find in Aus is $30 more expensive than this. And I would never use the included cooler, so I can try and sell it, or it can collect dust until my wife gets the shits and I throw it out.

      Thirty dollars is a decent chunk to throw towards a better cooling solution.

      • xuqi on 09/01/2021 - 15:19

        OEM tray CPU aren't covered by AMD 3 yrs warranty (if something happens AMD will refuse direct RMA), so the shop themselves are offering a 1yr warranty.

        The site clearly states this "ONE YEAR Warranty.".

        They're cheaper for a reason, as they're normally sold in-bulk to OEM's who provide their own support.

        • zrmx on 09/01/2021 - 18:47

          Whatever they may claim still cannot exclude your rights under the ACL. Yes you will be dealing with the retailer and likely not AMD if the need arises after a year.

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