Not cheaper than previous deals, however, posted only due to no other Macbooks at this price point currently, and works with Officeworks price beat; Officeworks along with other authorized resellers have increased their prices to $1997.
Apple 13 MacBook Pro M1 8-Core GPU 8GB 256GB $1799 (C&C) @ Mwave (Officeworks Price Beat $1709.50)
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Yeah you can put Linux on Macbooks
Hit and miss here. m1 is arm architecture. Yes there's arm version of Linus distro, but ymmv. Haven't kept up with current devs, so not sure if they have gotten a fully running version. Alternatively virtualisation will work as well.
I just meant using oracle or something virtual, I personally use Linux on desktops :)
It sounds like a very difficult project to get a direct boot happening, but you can on Parallels.
"Once getting the kernel booted with some level of hardware support, the elephant in the room will be the custom Apple graphics hardware and the significant resources there needed to bring up a new driver stack for Apple M1 without any support or documentation from Apple. The reverse-engineering is more complicated there than the likes of other ARM SoCs where at least there is generally closed-source Linux blobs to plug into and slowly replace. Even in those other ARM cases like with Panfrost, V3DV, Freedreno, and Etnaviv it's been a multi-year effort and that is with having a better starting point than Linux on the M1."
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-A…
It runs a BSD based Unix like OS. So that part is not going to be a problem. In fact, that was an advantage of Mac. You get a Unix like shell built into the OS.
The issue around other OSes, i.e. Linux, was due to the introduction of T2 and Secure Boot. 2018 MBPs started this so it is not something introduced by m1. It probably will be possible to do so (though a new built of linux will be required).
Native install is probably pending a few months, but it's been janky for a few years now, and IMO it's just not needed.
No VirtualBox support yet.
Docker is in preview but it working totally fine so far.
Parallels is also preview and runs W10 ARM with no problems after a recent update, but won't install Ubuntu x64_64. It does install Server ARM with no problems - this is only release version on that architecture, but is totally fine for my needs.
Just testing out CentOS ARM, will check back in if there's interest. Edit: didn't get past GRUB, but I don't care enough to go any further.
Only linux VMs at this stage. (and windows for Arm)
No x86 emulation?
Have you ever used a Mac?
This is the guy who bought a 3DS and never used it because it didn't come with a charger.
Look at the price of windows laptop of similar performance mate
Well, Tom’s Guide compared M1 MacBook Air (not Pro) to the Dell XPS13 at the same price point (in US).
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/macbook-air-m1-vs-dell-xps-13
If only we could get the apple chip/graphics in the XPS body - I like the performance, but those bevels are hideous.
Yeah but then you have to use Windows. With a Mac you’re getting both the hardware and MacOS.
Imagine being the first tw*t commenter on OZB in 2021. Congrats i guess.
lol
You can't upgrade the ram but I heard the battery is great. I mean 20 Hours great.
Still a valid warning point since many people who are upgrading their old MacBook may come from a model where they could upgrade their RAM.
It would have to be a very old MacBook[Pro] for that. Macbooks are had soldered in RAM for a very long time.
@BlinkyBill: If I’m not mistaken some MacBook Pro’s from 2012 (which could have been sold in 2013/2014) had upgradable RAM. Fairly old, but not that old given the typical lifespan of a Mac laptop.
@bozbargain: Was visiting a friend the other day, he has an 11 year old Macbook Pro that his kids are still using. Performance is awful, but fine for a 6yo.
@ely: I’ve got one of those as well. Has been around the world with me so many times and still looks like new. Amazing build quality and that keyboard makes me want to throw out my 2017 work MacBook Pro. A shame about the non-retina display, it’s the only thing that makes it feel like outdated tech.
Yep absolutely fantastic battery life, and as a PC person brilliantly executed swap to a new architecture. If your an Apple user up for a refresh its a no brainer (general use purpose mainly)
Amazing laptop. Most of what I do is already Apple Silicon native to a certain degree (Python, Node, VS Code, Go, Docker, Edge/Brave/Firefox/Chrome all have a native binary, although some are in a preview or beta state. Homebrew on ARM is unsupported but I also haven’t encountered any issues.)
Lack of x86/Windows virtualisation is a minus but the battery life, speed and most of all heat/noise gains are massive wins for me. iPad apps are a plus too but a bit janky.
Really needs touch screen but that interferes too much with their ipad range.
No, it would be horrible having oil smeared all over the screen.
Good to hear. Seems like we’re using similar tools and I just bit the bullet (waiting for my m1 to arrive sometime next month.)
Heard nothing but good from people doing similar work, just a bummer I can’t attach 2 or 3 screens
You can run windows on a virtual machine on M1 macs.
Only the ARM edition which has a number of caveats and is only available to non-OEMs as an insider preview.
ARM is the future. Everyone is moving to ARM architecture including Nvidia and Microsoft.
Software will take time to migrate but there is strong movement.
If Apple releases the market follows. Doubt it will be insurmountable. It's not like the old ppc days.
Nvidia is not "moving to ARM", they don't have an x86 licence and have been making ARM CPUs for years.
What they are doing now is buying ARM.I'll let someone else speak on my behalf.
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3647768-intel-responds-to-thir…
See the comment from Smartcom5
ARM Architecture CPUs has been shown by Apple as the future.
Yes, Nvidia is moving to ARM as they will enter into the CPU market in particular for cloud-servers for gaming.
Intel is odd one out.I will add again, nvidia can't "move to ARM" when they never made x86 CPUs in the first place…
NVIDIA did buy ARM though.
@Vinodra: I think its more of a strategic move for nvidia to be intel competitor rather than to "Move to ARM"
Nvidia said that they will continue to operate its open-licensing model while maintaining the global customer neutrality, so most likely Nvidia will not manufacture ARM cpu for mobile / desktop market. I see them manufacture CPU for server market as this field is still quite empty. Also fit well with their acquisition of melanox.
While I do love competition, I do not like fragmentation. Having to ship your software on x86 32bit and 64bit is hard enough so I really hope AMD can shrink their die enough to be as power efficient as arm.
@Indomietable: First of all i reckon Nvidia needs to make sure their GPUs get manufactured enough for the market demand… Just saying
@BargainBuddy: I don't think nvidia or any other cpu company can solve the supply issue unless they do their own fabrication. It takes 5 - 10 years to have this ability.
well i hope Microsoft does a ground up rewrite of what ever there ARM version of windows is
It's already in progress.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3601533/microsoft-rele…Also MS Surface tablets are already on ARM-cpus.
Perfect opportunity to put the Windows code in the bin as they should have done after the mess Vista created and build a new OS on a new OS core, similar to what Apple did years ago, best thing they ever did for MacOS
I can't work out if I should get it as base configuration, or with 16gb. I'll be using for Final Cut Pro videos.
Used an 8GB one in the apple store the other day and Final Cut Pro seemed to run absolutely incredibly well.
To everyone else who is here saying that these cost too much etc - at least Apple is doing something to progress the computer. Microsoft released their Surface Pro X with an ARM CPU and it had little to no impact on computing as a whole. And yet, the M1 seems to be much better than anything that Microsoft can put in a tablet, or anyone else can for that matter (which is bizzare to be honest).
Pricing is reasonable. This is cheaper than an iPhone pro which is a waste of money.
Go for the 16GB. You will always be wondering otherwise. Lots of great comparison videos on YouTube of 8GB v 16GB.
This guy in particular has five of the new M1s and has done lots of videos. This one talks directly to 8GB v 16GB;
https://youtu.be/h487I_5xOZUHaving edited a few projects on the M1, I’d go the 16GB if I was looking to use it as my main machine.
It’s a shame there isn’t a standard spec with 16GB so you can get it with these 10% off sales.
One difference between the 16gb and 8gb version that no one seems to be mentioning is that the 8gb version performs just as well in most scenarios BUT it uses more swap memory which will affect the SSD performance in the long run.
If you can wait and love to get a beats free with Mac, then you should buy it during the month of March. The Mac will be full price though.
That depends on being eligible for the education discount as it's a back to school special usually. I don't think it will be Beats this year other. I'm thinking whatever the cheapest AirPod is. it is usually a good deal when you take into account the education discount. Should be announced next week.
Waiting for 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD version to get under $2000.
Built to order, so it's not going to happen.
Then it's a no deal for me.
Oh well. Thanks for coming.
$1709 is really good price
how can I get it for 1709?
Officeworks price beat
Yeah, OP says it's been cheaper but I haven't seen that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nah as in cheaper than 1799
Pfft for the price of this i can get two airpod pros
Or 2 Airpods Max - Airpods Pro so 2020.
thats the one i meant
It’s great to see these new models being discounted this early. I find the Air and 13” great value for money.
the air but not with mac os would be a dream
Cannot wait for this year's model - I'll jump on that faster than Epstein did on that…. Oh my bad, leaving all the trollng in 2020. Let's all be Positive and test Negative OZB.
Bought a MacBook Air 13” yesterday with good guys gift card($500) for $1754. Should I cancel and buy this, I do not see much difference, just brightness and hdd(256 vs 512).
Did you buy the new M1 MacBook air? If not, I would cancel and grab this.
Yes M1. Thought more HDD is better than a bit of brightness etc.
I think the 3 key differences are screen, battery life and the magic keyboard. Considering that the processor is the same, it really boils down to what is important for your use.
@bajirao: The keyboard is exactly the same on both models.
In fact the air has the upside of no touch bar.@ozbargain-pashim: I really hate the fact that you cannot disable touchbar, using it on Intel MacBook Pros did drain up already limited battery lol
@ozbargain-pashim: Correct - When I said keyboard difference, I meant the touch bar. I think most hate them but there are some who might prefer it (especially new Macbook users).
Battery life appears to be far superior on the Pro.
M1 is ARM CPU. I bought one and realised that docker is still in a preview version, and virtual box doesn't run on it at all. So if you need these software, don't buy M1 CPU Macs.
I couldn’t go to ow to price beat the macbook air the other day. And today i stay at a hotel right next to ow. What should i do? @@@@@@@@
I think for OW price match you can call in as well and they will ship you? Or is it just in-store?
Haha I’m staying at right next to ow now. Just wandering if i should buy the macbook pro instead of macbook air, considering apple’s back to school promo is coming
if you don't need it urgently I'd recommend waiting til the apple back to school promo
@eunos: Is it 10% sale bonus a pair of beats for the back to school promo? I have the air early 2020 so I’m in no rush :D
Has anyone had luck with price matching? There's no free shipping so i'd imagine OW would factor it in :/
I saw the free shipping option at the checkout
When I put my QLD postcode in it says I have to pay or it's free with the VIP program. Also looks like officeworks is out of stock anyway
I was just at ow Newcastle but the macbooks are still on sale. The only cheaper one at mwave is the macbook air 512gb so I couldn’t decide which one to get T.T
looks like Officeworks has removed the M1 256GB Macbook Pros off their site for now
Guys is the ram soldered , or am I missing something. It says 8 GB unified RAM
all macs soldiered on as of 2016 i believe
Does it run Linux?