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Factory seconds sale, still comes with 12m warranty. Sale includes fridges and solar panels too. I have the cf40 and it’s great paid $599 for that a year ago..
[Refurb] Dometic CF50 Fridge Pack $549 + $30 Shipping @ Dometic
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And that is also a better fridge
Better… how ? Can you elaborate please ?
Both the same brand, with different capacities
(I haven't got any more details of the Aldi one coz couldn't find it on their website or catalogue !)Better insulation and these lids are known to warp or handle breaks / have to hit it to close
@Lolitsjoel: I think they are both the same fridges.
Aldi doesnt provide the model number, but pretty sure its a CF50?@specwarop: OK, Aldi catalogue has been uploaded now ….
https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-wed-25-…Capacity: 48L gross and 46L net
Detachable lid
SECOP compressor
Cooling capacity: -18°C-+10°C
Includes 12V and 240V adaptors
Digital control panel with USB input
Built-in 3 stage battery protection
Internal LED light
Heavy insulated walls, built for Australian conditions
Includes insulated protective cover
Dimensions: 76cm x 36cm x 48cm
Box weight: 24kgˇ@Lolitsjoel: According to Dometic website, both CF and CFF cool or freeze.
So what is the difference between CF / CFF series ?I understand CFX3 is the latest, but most expensive of all too !
@specwarop: Go into a anaconda and check them side by side
Also Black Friday sales will prob bring them down cheaper
Wife picked up new catalog today and its there.
ok, thanks, maybe they haven't uploaded that catalogue on website yet !
But would like to know how Aldi one is better if anyone can explain !
@51ngh: Appears that the product is the same except as the one above in the Aldi catalogue - CF50 48L gross, 46 net.
Only difference I can see between catalogue is the top half of the fridge is cream colour, not all grey like the one in the image.
Link for ref: https://www.dometic.com/en-au/au/products/food-and-beverage/…
@CachePC: I wonder though whether its a Aldi exclusive make? Same as a CF50 except some things changed internally to reduce cost?
This one:
"Storage volume: 46L"
Anyone who knows about fridge freezers, is this $599 Aldi one a good deal?
Does it come with the cover as well? Item picture shows the cover and listing has no link to cover or anything to show that it's an extra.
Never mind. Image shows it, but listing is fridge only. They want $120 for a cover…It does say fridge pack, so I assumed it has the cover… but maybe not!
I ordered one of these a few years back.
Turned up in a million pieces.
Poorly packed and the delivery person made sure it could never be put back to normal.Dometic to their credit full refunded me, after jumping thru a few hoops.
I would pick up if you can, would not trust their delivery guys.
I swear I've seen this as low as $599 new from Anaconda with a free Cover. From memory it was in the Boxing Day specials last year, so could be worth waiting.
Currently they have the same as $699 if you're a Club Member (Free to join).What size do folks recommend for 2 people ? A couple weeks away but can restock at teh supermarket, usually no more then 3 ir 4 days away from a town been doing it with Esky which is fine, 2 x Solar panels and a battery of some sort as well ? would rather not rewire the ute so I thought of one of these https://www.snowys.com.au/plb40-portable-lithium-battery#ins… but 40AhHr might be a bit small ?
you can use 100% of the lithium batteries (unlike lead based ones) so depending on the various factors you might get 1.5 days to 3 days before 40Ah get flat. but almost 1000 bucks you can get a decent branded 100Ah li batteries.
If you are not going to DC-DC charging system you dont need to connect your vehicle permanently.I had thought of getting something like this
https://trailercamperaustralia.com.au/solarking-120ah-12v-li…
and putting it in something like this https://www.snowys.com.au/smart-battery-box
a pair of panels to keep it topped up ? when at camp (usually we only over night maybe 2 nights at most before moving on) or I guess with a better that size, no need to go the solar panels and just recharge from the cars Cig socket while driving. Just curious what size fridge/freezer would be ok for 2 people doe a few days
I'm in battery business but don't have lithium experience much so I cant recommend a brand sorry. (which we will be soon then I can recommend lol)
These fridges roughly consume 15-20ah a day. So while on the road, you can run it directly from car I believe, then when you stop you can switch to battery. That's what I do my tc35fl. Its fine for 2-3 days trip. If you want to do longer trips, cheapest way to do stay in a powered site once in 3 4 days to charge battery. That'd be my minimum spend recommendation,
100ah battery+ 10A charger. Unless you have limited time, there is not much a advantage on 30A charger over 10A. But if you want to spend money, go for a Dc-dc charger then charge your battery on the move constantly.With just fridge and some lights the SK 120ah will last about 4-5 days, probably longer in "normal" conditions. If you have a local TCA I'd buy from them, alternatively this bloke in Melb is offering an extra 2 years warranty on the same battery for a bit more (TCA has recently dropped their SK battery prices).
Bought this battery box recently for $69 del from the same mob and am about to buy the SK 100ah from TCA ($599). SK specs are very good for the price, feedback is solid, and warranty is standard at 3 years.
Fridge size really depends on how you like to camp. Add a few beers/soft drinks and a 40l for 2 people might be a bit tight. 50l would be a good compromise but if ute space isn't an issue then 60l would give you options - keeping in mind that camping fridges work best when full.
That battery is an entry level lithium one, but if you buy a better one (Max Discharge Rates: 3C instead of 1C) you can use it as main battery for your car. I have done exactly that and let me tell you is the best.
You basically don't have to think about it, the battery is always there ready to be used, no packing, moving or recharging. You actually use the battery most of the time, meaning that you actually get your money worth.
At that point capacity is also quite meaningless. Lithium batteries have almost no internal resistance meaning that they take everything you give to them. If you plug a solar panel having a capacity close to the fridge consumption the battery will be almost topped up all the time.@nummenoor: What did you buy nummenoor? Did you have to get work done to make your generator work for your lithium?
Haven't looked for a while but generally specific cranking lithiums I've read about have a much lower capacity eg 60ah - or did I get the wrong impression from poor examples? Might depend on the cells, design of the BMS etc but discharging at 3C is likely to reduce battery life, eg somewhat, which may or may not be a big issue depending on how long you expect your battery to last. Lots of things to consider.
You cannot use 100% of the lithium batteries If a lithium-ion battery is discharged below 2.5 volts per cell you will be lucky to recharge it at all.
True wrt voltage, but it's nominally "100%" depletion of capacity, eg 100AH, not voltage. The BMS will (should) prevent discharge below (and recharge above) a set voltage, usually around 10V total battery (~2,5v/cell). It will (should) also have active cell balancing to keep all cells at around the same voltage.
Will Prowse is great value for 12V lithium info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=7hX6O_erpEI he regularly "100%" discharges 12V LFP batteries during tests.
many of 100Ah's actually 110-115Ah so you can discharge 100Ah continously without excessive voltage drop. also bms kicks in before it drops 2.5Vpc.
been doing it with Esky which is fine
Just wondering, what's pushing you towards a fridge?
Me, I figured it gave us better flexibility if we wanted to plant our arse for a couple extra days, The better 1/2 is happy to stick with a big esky and a bag of ice every 2 or 3 days and save the $. Maybe I should just listen to her :)
Ahh right. I was looking at the little 15L one from Jaycar for short solo trips, but realistically a bag of ice will probably do the job fine. It's just a bit boring. ;)
@eug: It soon adds up, fridge, cover, slider and straps, battery, battery box, wiring, DC charger or dual battery wiring in the vehicle, remote monitoring and you haven't even bought the beer ..
It soon adds up, fridge, cover, slider and straps, battery, battery box, wiring, DC charger or dual battery wiring in the vehicle, remote monitoring and you haven't even bought the beer .
Lol, yes it can be as large an outlay as you're prepared to pay but you can get away without a slide, wiring, dual batteries, DC charger, remote monitoring etc.
Fridge say $800+
Battery $600
Battery box $80
Solar $300
Lithium charger $150
Can buy a lot of ice for that but as soon as you're away from an ice vendor and 240v access, about $2K will get you a versatile, portable system.@[Deactivated]: Instead of buying a battery cant you just connect the fridge to car and a trickle charger or even a 5amp charger to the car on a powered site?
@expatOz: If you have access to 240V power (grid or generator) you don't need to run your fridge off your car battery. Typical LA starter batteries don't like to be regularly depleted and recharged in any case.
He's talking about "off grid" options, of which there are plenty - depending on your wants and budget. Permanent in-vehicle dual battery systems are popular but expensive. Portable battery box type systems (both AGM and LFP) are gaining popularity. Many people add solar charging systems to complete their off-grid setups but if you are only away 3-4 days a decent fully-charged 100-120AH LFP in a battery box will last until you get home and recharge it. Hope that helps.
@[Deactivated]: Oh nice, good to know. So the 100-120AH LFP in a battery box where would I buy that? Repco? Also is it safe to keep the battery in the back of the car? Someone told me they release toxic fumes so its dangerous.
@expatOz: LFP (prismatic) cells are quite safe to transport - no fumes and no worries if they tip over. They should be fully charged occasionally using a charger with a lithium algorithm.
Complete packages ("power stations" - a box with all the input and output sockets you'll need, + battery) can be found but it's cheaper to buy the box and battery separately. That way you get exactly what you want. Takes a minute to connect the box pos and neg wires to the battery terminals. Boxes take AGM and LFP, your choice.
Package deals are usually only available from specialist outlets - 4WD, camping, electrical engineering, battery, marine etc retailers.
https://www.aussiebatteries.com.au/blog/Best-Battery-Boxes-a…
A few reputable sellers of decent LFP batteries:
EV POWER
DeepCycle Systems
Solar King
Pro-Tech
EnerdriveRepco, SCA, ebay etc etc all sell boxes, many similar. Couple of examples below.
https://www.snowys.com.au/heavy-duty-battery-box
https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/adventure-kings-138ah-batte…@[Deactivated]: Would storing a fully-charged lithium-ion battery in a hot car shorten its lifespan?
@eug: Think you already know but for the benefit of people new to LFP batteries: prolonged exposure to high temps (~50+) will significantly reduce cell life according to accepted wisdom. There is plenty of info around for anyone thinking of buying or just interested. Reasonable summary here: https://www.solacity.com/how-to-keep-lifepo4-lithium-ion-bat…
Extract:
Take-Home Lessons
Now that we know how lithium-ion batteries work, what they like and dislike, and how they ultimately fail, there are some pointers to take away. We have made a little list below. If you are going to do nothing else, please take note of the first two, they have by far the most effect on the overall time you will get to enjoy your lithium-ion battery! Taking heed of the others will help too, to make your battery last even longer.To sum up, for long and happy LFP battery life, in order of importance, you should be mindful of the following:
-Keep the battery temperature under 45 Centigrade (under 30C if possible) – This is by far the most important!!
-Keep charge and discharge currents under 0.5C (0.2C preferred)
-Keep battery temperature above 0 Centigrade when discharging if possible – This, and everything below, is nowhere near as important as the first two
-Do not cycle below 10% – 15% SOC unless you really need to
-Do not float the battery at 100% SOC if possible
-Do not charge to 100% SOC if you do not need itThat is it! Now you too can find happiness and a fullfilling life with your LiFePO4 batteries!
I'd add - do not attempt to charge at sub-zero temps (BMS should prevent this anyway)
@[Deactivated]: Mmm that's a pity, I was hoping there have been advancements with regards to high-temperature storage seeing that electric cars are becoming more commonplace, and people often park under the sun.
You can have icecream out camping….its the best!
The 45 litre Waeco is listed in the latest Aldi catalogue for $599…bit smaller but don't forget much easier returns policy