Further to a recent article on this site, I noticed this article over the weekend on itnews.
The places announced by NBN Co today cover as yet undisclosed "parts" of:
and remember this at the next federal election
Next election will come down to marketing from each party - NBN, Turnbull away on holiday during the fires, him siding with Clive Palmer on the WA hard border, etc.
Will definitely come down to what angers people most between the parties
Don't think Trunbull will have much to do with it tbh.
Give him a break. It's hard to keep up with who's the current prime minister.
@BewareOfThe Dog: Gillard really does have the support of QLD during Covid! I'd guess she'd have lost if we weren't in a pandemic
Haven't had enough coffee lol blah
You talking about ScoMo? I'd doubt ScoMo would take on Turnbull's Frankenstein NBN.
Why?
They won't, but they should.
What makes you say that?
Reality is 5G was only on paper, and was always going to potentially overtake the NBN.
Fortunately I live in one of the above suburbs, that is 300m away from the Node. We are also in the 5G Optus circle, however, we are in a hollow on the edge, so not included.
Anyone suggesting 5G will be a fixed line replacement for most people doesn't understand the limitations of wireless technologies.
They quietly started doing FTTN to FTTP upgrades in small areas years ago. Good to see they're doing it on a much larger scale now.
Absolute mish mash of an over priced system back then and is even more of a waste of money with 5g and 4g now.
the liberals can't take a hint…
Throwing money on a fire here
The NBN was announced in 2009, when 5G was just an idea on some organisations scrap of paper. By the time the Abbott government came in, they scaled back from FTTP to FTTN knowing that 5G was just around the corner.
I've spoken to various people involved in Comms. FTTN vs 5G etc It's interesting all the Pro's and Con's there are.
I understand that handicapping the offering to save money because of the expectation that 5g was around the corner (4G was still giving speed greater than the average NBN speed anyway). However throwing money at this, now knowing that 5G is being implemented as we speak is just incredibly wasteful.
Who's going to pay for the astronomical NBN prices for sub par speeds when wireless nodes are being upgraded to handle increased amounts of traffic as people shift towards using mobile providers as their sole internet provider.
For us it's an extra $25 per month, to go from 50mbs to 100mbs.
There are also different Tiers of 5G, with 2600Mhz just around the corner (which Apple 5g phones don't support BTW, however I know most Samsung 5G phones do).
So, as someone who doesn't really get what is going on, could someone please explain?
At the moment, my 50mbps NBN FTTN is OK, in the future as kids get older, may well need it to be quicker. When this upgrade comes to my area, I sign up for a more expensive/faster plan with Aussie broadband/whoever and reap the benefits of the faster speed for the minimum amount of time, then downgrade if required.
Now, the alternative, which I am a bit unsure of is if I don't get it upgraded straight away when they're 'in my area' and 10 years down the track, I'm finding that a 250mps plan would be beneficial, am I right in saying that I will have missed the boat and too bad, too sad for fibre straight to my home or will you be able to get installed at any time?
If this is the case, I would have thought that future proof thing to do would be to upgrade and treat the extra cost to my monthly plan for 6/12/whatever months as a sunk cost and simply the cost to get fibre installed. This would be more beneficial than not getting it, then finding out down the track that it's too late and be stuck with copper.
Obviously it may be a bit early for these details to be ironed out but anyone have any idea?
The initial idea by the Rudd Govt was for no one to be left behind, and was one of teh governments great ideas along with upgrading schools, giving secondary public students free computers, pink batts etc. The program's costs started to blow out, and when the Abbott govt came in , they came with a scaled back product ie FTTN. Now that the NBN is starting to make money, it's time for them to upgrade, and I am happy we are one of the suburbs listed. :)
There were always going to be people left behind.
Rudd's original plan (in the "kevin07 2007 election) was FTTN. After the election they changed it to mainly FTTP, but there were always going to be people left out of that (rural, regional, outer suburbs etc etc) who were going to have other technology.
Then Abbott came and destroyed it all.
It's too early for most of the details. What we do know is that not all FTTN locations qualify for this lot of upgrades between 2021-2023. If you qualify and don't mind waiting great. If you don't qualify or can't wait you have the option to get a free quote direct from NBN and pay for the FTTP installation whenever you need it.
I saw the quote on either Telstra on NBNCo, with prices starting at 'a few thousand dollars'.
I think I'll wait.
Yeah next month the free quote option direct from NBN is meant to go live.
Victoria: Lyndhurst and Narre Warren
Far enough from any decent populated areas that nobody would check if it is really being upgraded. NBN fooling us all again.
The 3 areas in Newcastle are fairly large postcodes.
Notice how I quoted Victoria. Don't go off at a tangent. I wasn't trying to be an expert in Newcastle.
No worries. Im no expert on Victoria. :)
These areas are housing estates with shopping villages. How much more populated would you like?
A count of the number of properties for:
Narre Warren:9119
Lyndhurst: 2359
Based off Victorian Electors by Locality, Postcode and Electorates
Narre Warren is ranked 23 (there is 16 Melbourne postcodes with more properties than Narre Warren) and Lyndhurst is ranked 361 by number of properties. It is convenient both are in City of Casey which is under a corruption probe
Please check the facts.
If they need doing, they need doing. Who cares what order it's done in? Are you saying those residents are too stupid to know if their internet gets faster? Most of your statements sound very tin foil hat related.
Who cares what order it's done in?
Okay. If that is your approach to life.
Are you saying those residents are too stupid to know if their internet gets faster?
You are inventing assertions. If that is my point I would have said it. Don't over read and over reach.
Most of your statements sound very tin foil hat related.
How is electoral commission and ABC reporting foil hatted? You need to seriously reconsider where you get your facts from.
so same order as the fttn rollout
Um… yes
How many of those are in marginal seats?
funny you asked that, most of those are safe labor seats.
Australian voters should really be furious about this NBN 'upgrade' and remember this at the next federal election. They won't, but they should.