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Noticed this awesome RRP deal is available for drop 2 pre order, expected 20th Nov
[Pre Order] Xbox Series S Console $499 (Drop 2 Expected 20th Nov) @ Harvey Norman
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RogueWolf on 29/10/2020 - 21:39 harveynorman.com.au (2705 clicks)
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I can't imagine these have been too popular, no doubt there were less made than the series x and yet they are available.
They will sell more in the long term
That's probably what Xbox thought when they made it. But people understand the difference between a good price and a good value. The Series S is not a good value. It's a severely underpowered console that will be skipped with people paying $100 more for the PS5 All Digital.
I'm gonna have to disagree, John and say that it's a personal preference. I got a series S over a ps5 digital. It's more powerful than the xbox one x, its already shown to be capable of 4k 60fps (but targets 1440op 6ffp) and developers will no doubt push this going forward, it's compact and much smaller than the ps5 and if you pair it with gamepass or the new Telstra Deal its fantastic value. Although if you are not a casual gamer like myself then agree that you're better off opting for the more expensive options series x / ps5. But you can't say its severely underpowered and not of value.
Plus I stick to my comment above, in the long term, the S will outsell the series x. If your argument is that there are preorders available that is not valid, most people will buy the x on launch but after I'm sure a lot of people will opt for a series s. They may also opt for the ps5 but as I said its personal preference but series s paired with gamepass is a clear advantage over a digital playstation.
Because it will fit in their house?😉
You could probably live in a PS5 but only in winter
What?
You know what they say bigger is better.
Teraflops?😁
It is not everyone that has a room for this thing
If I didn't have a PC I'd get Xbox for sure. The gamepass alone is more than enough to convince me.
But that said, go where your friends are.
I have no friends.
Because not everyone wants a PS5?
Game pass. It's on a totally different level to the PS offering, and also has EA joining it now as well.
The Series S is a bad deal. Even with alleged 30% smaller game install sizes, it has half the bundled storage of the Series X, so you'll still hold fewer games. And proprietary storage ain't cheap. The 1TB expansion card is $359, so even hypothetically adding half that cost to this RRP to match the X's 1TB exceeds $650. Less than $100 difference between that '1TB Series S' and the Series X, which is much more powerful, includes a disc drive, and lets you take advantage of physical sales.
How is it a bad deal when people can probably only afford that?
If there are people who buy Series S over X purely because they genuinely can't afford the extra few hundred, they shouldn't be spending money on something like a gaming console anyway.
That makes no sense at all, did you ever consider people have budgets?, or do you think we all live in the biased world you live in?
So suddenly parents are going to spend $250 more on a console for their kid/s and have no games due you thinking what is and is not affordable?Wow…
@[Deactivated]: You make no sense. Having a budget and not being able to afford are two different things.
@keejoonc: Glad to see you think there is only people like you in the world.
People buy what they can afford, not what you think they should afford.@[Deactivated]: Right, so you think it's smart for someone to buy a gaming console when spending extra 250 for the Serie X is enough to make or break their bank?
Smart move.
Not everyone wants to spend $749 on a console, how is this so hard for some people to understand…
@smartazz104: Sad day when people start telling others what they should buy, most of the general public would not know the difference between 4K and 1080P, let alone 1440P, they only see the $ sign in front and tell their kids whether they can afford to buy it or not.
Imagine wanting to buy this then 2 games and an extra controller?, that's $750 there for the S, if it was the X parents would balk at 1k for the kids.
Live within your means, especially when so many people lost their jobs..@smartazz104: How hard is it to understand a gaming console is a non-essential item and if you are struggling make your ends meet, it's stupid to be spending your money on a gaming console? No wonder this country is so full of leeches who live off of government handouts.
@keejoonc: Woah, now it's because what you think people should be spending their money on, by your logic people should have a 3K PC rather than the modest $700 one right?
Who ever said people were struggling?, you've turned this into some tin foil hat right there.
I posted that people can probably only afford $500, now you're suggesting these people are leeches who live off of government handoutsWow, what a small world you live in, my last response time for ignore.
Because there's such a thing as a performance to price ratio. If you can only afford $500, then that decision is already made for you. But the price delta between Series S and X is not enough to offset the difference in performance and features.
It's a $250 on paper difference, but you'll be paying more for storage and digital games (not everything is on Game Pass), so that price advantage evaporates. So the people who draw the line at $500 may be paying more for less, possibly even within the first 12 months.
In Australia, the Series S RRP also got the raw end of the conversion, because while the PS5 and Series X are exact 1.5X US MSRP in AUD (500 > 750), the Series S is more like 1.7X to a round A$600.
Lol you're trying to excuse people's budgets and what they can afford with your hyperbole bs.
Not everyone thinks like you nor would like to.@[Deactivated]: No. And it's not hyperbole. A console isn't a single upfront payment. You have to buy games, accessories, and subscriptions. It's a tried and tested loss-leading business model, and simply comparing sticker price is a pointless oversimplification.
Your whole argument is 'Xbox Series S cheaper!' which is like arguing that people should always pick cheaper cars, even if they aren't as powerful, cost more to run, and require more upkeep. Ironically, the people who really need to save by a cheaper console may very well wind up paying more, even in the short term.
Just because you can't afford the Series X at $750, doesn't mean the Series S is worth $500.
@SydStrand: Wow I already have a SX on release day, my god you think you know it all, it's about what people want to buy and can afford.
The S is 1440P 60 HZ, what is so hard to understand, it is made for a price, don't say otherwise.
Just because you think people need the X shows how little you know about people's needs and wants, see how easy that is?@[Deactivated]: The ego on you. I'm saying that just because someone (not you) can't afford a high end console doesn't automatically make the downgrade a good deal. I did not bring up resolution, you did. I already know the Series S is built to cost, but it's still not priced far enough from the Series X.
Just because you think people need the X shows how little you know about people's needs and wants, see how easy that is?
I'm not saying people should buy the X, I'm saying people shouldn't buy the S. And considering how easily these can still be found unlike the other new consoles, it seems the market agrees with me.
Your argument is 'b-but maybe people can't afford $250!' So those same people should pay full price for digital games and pony up for overpriced storage? You're rudely piling on anyone who questions the poor value of this console with clumsy, oversimplified comparisons.
@SydStrand: Yeah yeah yeah, you change your whole argument to suit your crappy agenda.
People will buy what ever they want, nothing you can do about it.ignore time buh bye
Yeah yeah yeah, you change your whole argument to suit your crappy agenda.
My argument has been unchanged since I commented: the Xbox Series S is a bad deal (but yours has). And 'crappy agenda?' get your belligerent head out of your ass. But sure, ignore and insult anyone who disagrees without actually attempting to engage their points, because you have none. Your gaming dogmatism is better suited Whirlpool or Reddit and not a BARGAIN website.
I’ve read you can still archive games off to any USB 3.0 drive, you just need to move them back to the internal SSD if you plan on playing a next gen title. That dampens the issue a lot in my opinion. Still gives you space for half a dozen or so AAA titles and then others shouldn’t take too long to move back.
I’m going a Series X myself, but the ability to archive to any drive and avoid downloading games would still see me recommending Series S to those that don’t care about 4K. If there’s any compromise I think it’s the lack of disk drive and the fact you’ll be forced to pay more as a result for digital titles rather than getting physical ones day one for 30% less or so at Amazon or Big W. I like that Series X gives you the option of disc or digital.
T5 Samsung portable SSD are $98 from OW.
I have 2 Toshiba 1TB SSDs 1 I use for PC the other for X1 which will be still for X1 games.
I'll just get another 500GB T5, but I already have 2 250s and 1 500 lolIf the external drive is used purely as a cache for archived games, then you chose poorly because the console isn't playing games off the external drive. You could have picked a traditional HDD and maximised your TB/$ instead of those 4 SSDs. The transfer speed and portability of a T5 is wasted as a permanently connected slave drive.
@SydStrand: Hang on hang on, Am i reading this right? We cant use our standard SSD drives to play games off like we used to do with the XBOX 1? I even bought a couple of "xbox 1" SSD Drives to plug into the USB and i have been playing games off them. Do we now have to use the internal Drives or the special expensive Card to play games off? That sucks. I have like 3 Xbox 1 SSD drives.
@lonewolf: You can use an off the shelf SSD for playing Xbox One and older titles. You can’t use that SSD to play Series S/X optimised titles and must transfer them to the internal drive. The Xbox internal storage is significantly quicker than a T5 drive.
PS5 also has requirements for replacing drives. For Xbox they instead use a proprietary chassis so they can control performance.
So old games will work on those drives. It won’t work for new titles but.
Disagree. Personal preference is what it comes down to. This is still a powerful console which is actually capable of 4K 60fps output, believe it or not. You can store your old games on a HDD as well and use the SSD for optimised games. The 1tb isn’t that much greater than the 512gb. Plus if this is paired with game pass, especially the Telstra deal which is great value for the casual gamer. Not everyone feels the need for a disc drive either, it’s something that I doubt will be around much longer. Only people who seem to be holding on are those you have heavily invested in physical discs and bluray lol
I don't hold any nostalgia for discs and have literally never bought a movie on Blu ray, but a disc drive allows you to buy physical games on sale - just look at all the deals posted here. Most games aren't on Game Pass, so if you own a Series S and want to buy NBA2K21 on launch, your only option is to pay $110 digitally vs $88 on Amazon). Prepare to pay the Xbox Store tithe for each game over the life of your console.
Agree that the cost of the disc/sales is certainly a benefit of a disc drive. Personally, I don't mind waiting for something to go on sale or purchasing day 1 for $20 extra, if it is something I would really like to play.
The fact that you need to put a disc in and still download the whole game lost me years ago. The benefit of not swapping out discs to switch games is great too. Eventually, prices will drop the more people shift to digital consoles/game pass style gaming.
The fact that you need to put a disc in and still download the whole game lost me years ago. The benefit of not swapping out discs to switch games is great too.
Yeah, it sucks. But swapping a disc every 30 or 40 hours of game play is a small inconvenience for the ability to get reliably cheaper games and being able to sell them later.
Eventually, prices will drop the more people shift to digital consoles/game pass style gaming.
The business models are too different. The reason physical games are cheaper, is because retailers (JB, Amazon, etc.) compete with each other, which brings cost down. Even in PC gaming, which is entirely digital, has multiple storefronts (Steam, Epic, Battlenet, Origin, GOG) competing for your CC details. But if you own an Xbox Series S, the Microsoft Store is literally your only choice. You pay what they charge.
For older physical titles, retailers will discount even more aggressively. There's no such incentive in a digital storefront, no warehouses of stock burning a hole in their pocket, no shelves of games that need to be cleared for new titles.
Only way it's going to change is if digital games start lower, to account for the fact that retailers rarely sell at RRP even at launch. But it won't happen because the PlayStation/Microsoft stores are too lucrative. They get 30% of the whole pie, with no manufacturing cost, no transport, or retailer cut to chip away at their margins. If you buy a Series S, Microsoft has you over a barrel. Game Pass is currently a great deal, but there are question marks long term. There are lots of games that are 'must-haves' that aren't included, and they literally doubled their subscription cost back in September. It's not implausible that more price increases mirroring Netflix will happen, especially as MS just paid $7.5B for Zenimax and Bethesda and will like to recoup that investment.
@SydStrand: Older titles will always be discounted at retailers, and agree that generally the disc versions will become cheaper, but digital titles do discount significantly as well. For example, I picked up NBA2k20 back in May for $4 on the Microsoft store, which was far cheaper than in any retail stores (by at least 90%)
Also, if you are locked into game pass for a few years etc then I guess it’s not too much of an issue if the cost rises. There’s always deals out there to subscribe cheaper as well. Plus all those studios Microsoft are buying will be having those games on launch day via game pass which is pretty cool, I.e. starfield, halo, elder scrolls 6.
Ultimately the series x is better, no argument against that. But for the casual gamer a series S is solid value, a powerful console which depending on how crafty developers get will probably output 4K in future, if not the targeted 1440 6fps, and since I was able to get the Telstra deal for 30% less, 3 years game pass and the console is only costing me ~$550 total, 2 years game pass is $380 alone, therefore $170 console
I was just a kid when we got a Playstation 1. Now I am a Grandfather and my Grandkid's are getting the PS5. Unbelievable. Life.
Umm what. I was a kid when I got a PS one and nowhere close to fatherhood.
Ps1 release date 1994, “just a kid” so assume he was 12, had his first kid at 16, now his 38, his kid had twins at 16 now they’re 6 checks out
Must live in the druiitt
November 1995 in Australia for the PlayStation.
PlayStation 1 (one) was around 2000.I am guessing the guy is like me, thinking they were a kid when they bought the original PlayStation way back but was actually in his 20s.
I'm thinking this is the best way. Screw waiting until you are settled with money, get the kids out of the way when you're young, then you've got your life back by the time you are 35-40 👍
Probably WILL be a grandfather by the time there is stock available
Spent too much time gaming, not enough chasing girls?
When I was a kid I got a Sega. No where close to fatherhood.
You've gone from a child to a grandfather in 26 years? Congratulations, I think?
Grand pa at 40yo???
I'm so sorry to hear that.
Series Sad
What exclusive game is demanding people buy an Xbox atm? Honest question, Microsoft havent given me a reason to upgrade yet
Halo game director leaving their biggest IP just further adds to my first point, think I'll wait until Xbox actually delivers on their promises
That's a 2 year wait, hopefully sooner…Yakuza: Like a Dragon confirmed ruuning at 900p on this console, thats a disgrace. Get the Series X
I'm looking forward to Gears 5 and Horizon 4 on the X in 4K and shit, never gave them a go on current gen. Gears Tactics might be fun too. Tetris Connected looks fun, but I won't count Tetris as a selling point for anything released this side of 1989. Burning through ODST and Reach for the first time via MCC will be fun in 120 FPS too, nearly done with 4 finally.
While none of them are reason enough to buy a console, I'd say a remaster of a PS3 game they gave me on PS+ yeeeears ago that I didn't like at all (Demon's Souls) and an uprez of a DLC pack for a PS4 game (Spider-Man) that I can just buy on the PS4 anyway, is honestly a much lesser offering than the stack of Xbox games that have been touched up and given either higher resolutions or higher frame rates (or both) for the Series X.
That being said, if I didn't have $525 in EB credit to burn through, I'd have waited a couple years before getting either next gen console.
None, but given its 100% backwards compatible (well ignoring Kinect which has been dead for 5 years), I see no reason to hold off. I can still play new releases that are optimised for the new console and have a better experience with them, even if they aren’t exclusive to the hardware.
I’m coming from a One S so the jump will be more pronounced than if I owned a One X.
I doubt I’d save stacks waiting 6-18 months and with a stable job, my free times more important than the $100-$200 I might save by waiting. With gaming being one of my favourite things to do, having a better experience earlier is worth it to me.
Getting $240 credit from EB for my Series S (as a level 4 member) doesn’t hurt the equation at all either, and I could probably get more if I could be bothered to try sell it myself. If I wait then my Series S will net me less.
None, but given its 100% backwards compatible
The one in this deal isn't, no disc drive so that locks out a lot of the backwards compatibility. Will have to re-buy your games digitally.
Well if your collection is already digital only you’re still fine. But yes, if you have discs you’re right.
I was thinking more from the perspective that any upcoming releases will run on the systems and not be exclusive to the older hardware, which in the past has happened around gen changes.
A lot of people never bought any physical media for the Xbox One, I know I certainly didn't.
@gromit: Especially since the disk is nothing more than physical confirmation that you own the game since you still need to download it anyway.
@smartazz104: You need the game to be on the consoles drive, but dont need to download it per-se. It'll copy from the disc if you have one. Games that work without day 1 patches will run in a console thats offline, or if MS for whatever reason shuts down the Xbox store.
Some games however have mandatory downloads so those advantages won't apply to those.
None. Even the few exclusives they’ve got are rather meh.
To quote mr t, “I pity the fool” who buys this.
Esp parents thinking they are buying proper next gen, should be $300Has been available from ebgames for preorder (with stock) since announcement
https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/xbox-series-x/267774-xbox…
How does that make you feel?
Like this is pretty unnecessary tbh.
Double neg tag team that’s harsh 😂
@RogueWolf: Well he's right, that has been there since day dot. I know because I spent all (profanity) day trying to order an S or an X, ended up with both even, and check back every now and then to see it still says the S is available but not the X, it has been this way since they went up for sale.
I'm not even getting into the "OzRRP" debate, this isn't something that's super hard to get a hold of, so it doesn't fit the "well I'm just putting it here to help people find stock" argument.
Like it's (obviously) nothing personal, I'm not negging you as a human being, just that the deal doesn't really need to be here, it's not a deal. A forum post saying "Hey, Hardly Normal have stock again for a week and a half after release" would be sufficient, if even that.
@TheDukeOfNukem: Deal, no deal, no idea I leave it up to you lot to decide or mods to move it to forums, Just a post by morning it will drift away to pages 2,3,4.. & all forgotten
Sorry.
no 360 disc play is a downer
Sorry, but this is not a bargain (it's RRP), especially just for the Series S (it's been in stock elsewhere?)
yea xss is a joke
What is "drop 2"?
when you think you are finished and wiped, but then no there is more.
Drop 3 must be a pain in the arse…
Usually it's wet
Awesome game pass machine.
Solid RRP deal.
thanks, can't believe fools posts deals below RRP, common sense more you pay more its worth
It's been in stock at EB Games since it was put for pre-order.
It seems that the demand is too low or the offer is too high.
So this is RRP but this is OzBargain. I'm not seeing the actual deal here? 🤔
Welcome to OZRRP and OZINFO, seems to happen more and more these days.
It’s overpriced for what you’re getting. $500 for a digital only console with a mere 500 GB of storage and last-gen specs isn’t a great deal at all. Microsoft should have set a more reasonable price for this console.
Seems like Series S isn’t popular among buyers anyway. We wouldn’t be seeing preorders becoming available otherwise.
Agree, PS5 digital is only $100 more
This should be $350-400
remember when the xbox one s was down to 199?
That was a bargain.
This is RRP and is not hard to come by; it’s been available at EB since launch. This is just an ad for Hardly Normal.
What's the circle thing on the side? Looks like a speaker.
Hotplate.
That's where you put the records.
RRP is not a bargain
This is basically ads for Hardly Normal.
I wouldn't bother with Harvey Norman. They are likely selling stock they don't even have like they did with the iPhone 12.
Are they going to have disc for the S version?
No "bargain" here. Just RRP and that fairly high. No deal!
The graphic card in the XSS is not weaker. Has less teraflops what by itself doesn't mean anything