10 presets including: dehydrate, bread, whole chicken, chips, fish, steak and chops, drumsticks, cake, defrost and pizza
LED display
Stainless steel housing
1700W
Includes: air fry basket, 10" pizza stone, 8-prong rotisserie set, bake tray and crumb tray
You'd be surprised at the margins on the special buys
Can you surprise us then? What's the margin?
Well you can do some basic guesswork to get an idea.
The product is worth roughly $40 in an order quantity of 500+ (alibaba shows that)
Lets assume they buy tens of thousands, so if it's anything like other consumer electronics, you can probably almost halve that per-item cost. (lets say $25)
A shipping container is usually somewhere around the 8 thousand dollar mark from Shenzhen; I havent seen the box size,but how many do we think we could fit in a large container? 10'000? (lets be generous and call it 8 thousand, because that keeps the numbers nice and round, at $1 shipping per unit).
So, we're at $26.
The actual cost comes from shipping it locally and stocking it; but that can be offset by using 'their own' trucks, and making sure the trucks are shipping other profitable products also; so lets be EXTRA generous and say each item has a shipping cost of $4 (makes for a nice round per unit number; and is certainly too high for the space they take up on an Aldi truck).
We now have a $30 item; You do have to pay staff to sell them; but that cost is also offset by OTHER profitable goods again; so hard to calculate.
Shall we be stupidly extra generous and call it $50 per unit (in case somewhere in that supply chain our napkin math was off)?
- That's still 50 points per item they're making; and that's not bad business.
My mate used to be the supply lead for the Super Group (super cheap auto, being their biggest).
You know those $2 "I'll use it once" tools they keep at the counter on 'sale'?
They had to be below 6 CENTS per item to qualify as a counter-stock-tool.
Buying in bulk is crazy man!
@MasterScythe: Nice attempt at writing things up, but geeez, take some care with the numbers next time!
A quick Google reveals: container freight China - Australia, typically US$2200 for 40' container. That's A$ 3000. Your $8000 was out by a factor of 2.6.
The air fryer oven is at least 40cm cubed. Means you get ~15 into a m^3. A 40' container holds 67 m^3. 1000 of them in a container, assuming they fit ideally, actually less. Out by a factor of 10 (or 8)!
Fortunately those discrepancies were in opposite directions, so your container freight estimate is only out by a factor of 3. $3 shipping China-Australia.
Now Alibaba: where do you see it for $40? I see it for US$45. That's with minimum order 800 pieces. Seeing that Aldi reportedly only had 3 or so per store, they just get to that minimum order. That's A$60 per piece then. Even if they bundle world wide purchases and negotiate based on repeat business with the same factory, they'll end up somewhere between A$40-50 per item. Out by a factor of 2.
Let's just put it that way: I know Aldi does not intentionally sell at a loss. But with this specific item, they cut it a lot closer than you suggest. After paying all the costs (don't forget $9 GST), they have at most $20 in margin. If too many of these come back for warranty there's nothing left in it for them.
Explains why they only stock a few per shop. Risk/reward ratio just is not there.
As to your 6 cents example: nice story mate, and maybe true of some little plastic trinket. Once you're going for metal, that's quickly refuted, mild steel costs A$800 a ton, a better alloy will easily double that. If a spanner weighs 100g, the steel that went into it already costs 8 cents for mild steel, 15 cents for something a tad more durable.
The product is worth roughly $40 in an order quantity of 500+ (alibaba shows that)
Are you sure? Or are you plugging numbers from your backside?
Besides this one, what's the best air fryer?
why can't we just use the normal oven to make pizza?
You can
If you want an Aldi special buy you need to line up 2hrs before the store opens. That's not an exaggeration.
really?
lol. 20 mins is more realistic. But past few times I have missed out and I was in line when the store opened.
Nah just start coughing in line.
It looks so fugly
I will build this onto my new ikea kitchen…
I will build this onto my new Kia.
OK Xzibit. Way to pimp your ride.
Building this onto your new Kia does not give it a 7 year warranty…
Quite a bit better than the cheapo one I used to have. Kogan used to sell that one a while back (just rebranded). Price was around $170 from memory.
Nice to dream they will have about 5 per store and when you miss out you might spend some of that $100 on items with a higher profit margin
Not even lol. There was like 2 per store the last time this was around a few months back
Got one last time. Kept on tripping the circuit. Returned the piece of junk. Many other had the same issue. See forums or product review. Don't say you weren't warned.
https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/aldi-ambiano-23l-a…
Given up on Aldi stuff, everything I've bought hasn't lasted. From blenders to pressure cooker. Even the last dutch oven enamel chipped after a weak of normal use and the recent pyrex container knock off also chipped from normal use
Just return it then. 60 days no questions asked…
The enamel in the handle chipped, still usable so couldn't be bothered going back. Couple months later more chipped on the cooking surface. Just put it down to a lesson learnt. I did return the pressure cooker. Blender I've taken apart to fix a few times, it's just hanging in there. There's a bunch of other stuff as well, like the vacuum food sealer that stopped sealing, and other things I've forgotten about coz I've chucked them out.
I've had the same problem. Too much wasted time and money buying and then having to return faulty, low quality products.
You cannot repair or replace parts for their in-house brand specials.
It all ends up in landfill pretty swiftly and a lot sooner than necessary or justifiable.
Not to mention the argy -bargy and not having enough stock. Just not a great shopping experience. Everytime I see something good on their special buys, I do a reality check and just move on.
@42: I also purchased a bunch of the small desert dutch ovens. I thought they looked good.
Same thing happened after a few times of use. The enenal flaked and chipped away.
I got to a point that the cost of going out of you way to return it just isn't worth it. So I left it and learnt a lesson.
Now I just research when I need a product and try to buy quality.
Buy once, cry once
I guess it comes down, to since they have zero intention to stock a product long term, and only cover the initial peek demand, then the quality of the product is really the buyers problem. They don't have to worry about crappy product reviews affecting future sales of products they don't intend to restock.
It shows too. They'll source bulk supply from failed business ventures, liquidation, low quality, minor defects. Snap it up cheap. Sense on the dollar compared to what it would actually cost them to manufacture.
Brand, market and sell it. Which a cheap price and a spot in a catalogue isn't much marketing and it works.
They do have products that return over and over again, once or twice a year, so I guess that must say something.
However, a lot of their stuff is just junk and not worth the hassle of trying to buy it due to their insane stocking policies. I think everyone now agrees that it is done deliberately just to get people in the door. One of the reasons these air fryers come back round several times a year. First law of marketing, create scarcity.
Remember when Myer used to have TV's on special in the January Sales for $1. There was only one TV at that price. It is all about creating colour and movement, nothing more. But there was no social media then for people to bitch and moan. We just accepted it and moved on.
Not everything is junk though. I bought their electronic kitchen scales back in 2008, and 12 years later they are still going strong. Mind you they don't get an industrial workout, and I tend to look after my stuff. I take the batteries out after using them and store the scales in the box they came in. And yes, I agree no-one else would fart around like that. I am happy with my bluetooth headphones, multiplug travel powerboard, wheeled backpack, el cheapo rice cooker (9 years old), and other bits and bobs such as frying pans that I have bought there.
incredible. I have had a completely different experience I have a large number of Aldi Kitchen Appliances, Garden power/petrol tools, And power tools and wood working. and they are excellent, I find there Centre Isle stuff good quality. THE ONLY BITCH I HAVE WITH ALDI THEY CUT THE QTY OF STOCK TO EVERY STORE. I don't get their catalogue any more if there is something I want available in center Isle I buy , but don't make a list in advance and I am not going to join those (profanity) that que for up to 2 hours.
Same experience here. Garbage item.
To Aldi's credit the refund was completely painless.
goodluck, its starting to look like american black friday brawls for these aldi deals, totally not worth it since there is just not enough stock for the demand
Bought the Target's Bellini 11L Air Fryer - BAFO20 and it's really good. Not the cheapest but my wife is satisfied so I'm also satisfied.
How this is a deal when it's RRP and probably sold out (not enough stock) within first few min?
You make a decent point. But try finding an air fryer this size, with these features for under $100. A good deal is a good deal.
Is it though..
Haters gonna hate.
@RSmith: So true. I thought I was pretty civil about it and he still gives me a neg, lol. Love this place.
@[Deactivated]: Some people who hardly post anything love to be negative about other people's posts.
Chasing for stock isn't
Generally what happens on a good deal ;)
Why does it have to be under $100? Are you saying that Ozbargainers only focus on price and nothing else?
How is it a bargain if you pay sub $100 for a product with the features you want, then have to toss it after a couple of months and buy another more durable brand at a higher price?
In my view a true Ozbargainer gets the best value for money by buying a product ONCE based on need/potential usage, suitability, durability, and then price.
Buy an Aldi fryer at $100, then ditch it to buy another at say $200. $100 wasted. Not worthy of being called an Ozbargainer
Any proof this isn’t good value for $100 or are you just assuming it isn’t? Plus there are things like warranties and consumer protections if required. I bought the cheap I Kmart air fryer for $70 and it was about as cheap as you could get for the size and features. Still got it over a year later and hasn’t skipped a beat. Cheap doesn’t always mean bad, but in saying that, it’s harder to find something reliable the cheaper it gets.
@[Deactivated]: I don't know if it is good value or not. It might well be, but I am just basing my comment on the fact that Aldi electrical goods don't always get a good rap. I've read lots of posts here on OB about people taking stuff back to Aldi, or binning it. Maybe Kmart, Target, BigW et al, have the same attrition rate on some of their home brand stuff. I do have a Target mini food chopper that has had a damn good workout over many years and despite having epoxied the plastic lid back together to keep it running, it still goes well. And my Target Sandwich Press likewise. So no, cheap doesn't always mean bad.
By the same token, neither Sunbeam or other established brands get good raps all the time, but you do have some sense of security in dealing with a national brand. I was looking to buy a replacement glass kettle recently, and BigW had two that I thought would suit. One Sunbeam and one Russell Hobbs. The product reviews for both were very mixed and I decided against both of them. My cheaper Smith and Nobel kettle from Harris Scarfe lasted two years and was fine.
At the end of the day, it's all academic. There is a very limited number of these Aldi air fryers in circulation, and almost impossible to get definitive proof of their fitness for purpose, reliablity, and value for money. Given the frenzied buying chaos they cause, Aldi are going to maintain that scarcity for all the reasons we have previously discussed. No amount of money can buy that sort of publicity, albeit negative when people miss out. There's no such thing as bad publicity.
Good points.
These sell On TV infomercials for $250 as My silly MIL bought one….
Sounds like you have a great relationship with your MIL, you must get one and taunt her with “my cost $99, cos I’m an OzBargainer!”
Anyone can buy it for $99. You don't even have to find a bargain..
Provide a link then?
Don't bother lining up at your local Aldi, I have my special Broden helpers staking out every single store to buy them all.
HERO
That's US $49 if you buy more than 800 units
I'm starting my own Aldi!
That's a different model & min order is 500!
Aldi suppliers just buy those type of units from manufacturer in China, have the Aldi trademark added, put in Aldi box & ship them here for sale date.
I was an aldi surprise weekly buys general merchandise supplier since 2003, this is the same factory. the models are varied and the price shown of US$ is for a sample price for a 1 off. If you order the MOQ you can get it for US$21 FOB
Ozbargain group buy?
So I can heat my chicken nuggets
@stickymoo: This idea is not as silly as it sounds. Aldi, Kmart etc are buying all their shit in bulk from Ali-express and adding a margin. There's no reason that OZB couldn't run a book for high demand items like this. Setup an OZB wish-list page, let members vote and maybe pay a small deposit, then once the MOQ is reached for any item on the list, place a bulk order and it's bargains for everyone.
@1st-Amendment: It's all fun and games until we find some are defective or doa. Would be extremely hard to manage that mess.
@aerona: I've worked on supply chain systems that do exactly this, it's not as hard as you think. Setup an online RMA process and direct ship back to the supplier. OZB would be in a perfect position to offer such a service, just add on 10% to cover costs and this could be extremely popular.
@1st-Amendment: i would have done it but I have retired 2 years ago. i supplied aldi, bunnings, woolworths, coles/myer group, strathfield car radios, reject shop, crazy johns, with products over the past 19 years. i was based in shanghai for most of that time supervising orders and QC, and freighting them to state warehouses in oz
What is MOQ and FOB?
Not sure why these things are called fryers when they function like a oven.. marketing juju? We have the black older model, basically toast my sandwiches in it and “fry” our chkn nuggets.
Anyone whether Metro Melbourne stores will be getting these? I know we missed out on other special buys.
There's no point.
Most of the state is bankrupt and can't even pay their mortgage
So how much is the bank offering your property at?
Most? Last stats I saw were a doubling in default rates; but thats still below the 51% majority of homeloans.
Hold on if scalpers are online stealing stock from every gawd dam place online, what do you call those that buy the items in-store in seconds.
Scalping by definition isn't exclusive to online …..?
Is this the exact same model from last year? If so then don't bother, similar to the above comment I had to return mine after the smoke smell (didn't trip my wire though) after using it less than a week. Awesome when it worked but it seems to be a hit and miss with this product.
Has anyone got this fryer yet?
Walked in to the shopping centre with 50 people in queue, time to go home and sleep
Well, I was 8th in the line, and they only have 3 in stock in Aldi Rhodes
Sold out at the Aldi I went to…..8.45am. Of those who bought, would appreciate if you could confirm whether the item is good or need to be returned?
Lined up from 6.55am and was 1st in line. 15' later there were 10 pp joined. By the time store opened there were more than 40 queued up. Luckily I got one as there were only 6 units in total. Sold out in 30 seconds. Suspect some stocks were reserved for relatives/friends of staff as I saw 2 pp walked out much later with unit still in shipping box instead of normal display box.
I CANT BELIEVE I ACUTALLY GOT ONE!
was in the queue for 20 min. there was about 10 people in front of me.
I picked up the second last one on the pallet.
There are around 10 available at Aldi Jamison Centre, Canberra as at 13.22pm if anyone interested
Anyone in Sydney North Shore? Just saw 3 sitting there waiting to be snapped up…
Still available?
None at 9 am FML
Got one and set it up last night. Tried it out to melt a bit of cheese over a lebanese bread this morning. Mwah.
FWIW I just happened to be driving out of town on a day trip, and stopped by at one of the country town Aldi outposts, and managed to grab one without too much difficulty since they had something like 3 palettes. Even then, they were still walking out the door at a brisk rate. Probably would've been done and dusted by 10am.
I really want one. I bet its a loss leader. No way they can Import this, Pay shipping to the store and have it cost under $100.