Better late than never..
Half of FTTN will be upgraded to FTTP by 2023.
HFC and FTTC will be upgraded to support up to Gigabit speeds.
Fibre will be installed in the street and the fibre lead in will be installed on request.
25,000 jobs over the next 2 years.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-23/nbn-co-shake-up-upgra…
Neurobiology. It doesn’t paint a pretty picture for the 65+ year old cerebrum…
Pls do not procreate. Hope it's not too late
@gimme: I like Sheldon’s idea - publicly flog a couple of over 65s as an example to the rest to ‘encourage’ them to learn tech…
Half of FTTN will be upgraded to FTTP by 2023.
Surely that's a typo and is really 2032…
nah its backwards 3202
Half of FTTN will be upgraded to FTTP by 2023""
Bullshit
They will roll it out, by electorate, with colour coded spreadsheet to know where to go first.
I hope this is true, my FTTN has no difference when on ADSL2.
You just got suckered. Just in time for the next election
This is quite a joke, imagine spending so much money on building a network that before you start, is obsolete and then after it's built, tearing it up again to make bring it into the 21st century.
It's like wanting a new car, then buying a cheaper car instead, then you give away the cheap car (because these obsolete nodes won't have a good ROI) and then buying the car you wanted in the first place - madness!
It is more like selling used car with 3 wheels for the price of new one knowing that a customer will come back and pay more to get the 4th wheel
So the Coalition still isn't matchin Kevin '07
If you're not mad about this, look up how much Telstra and Optus were paid for their assets, then maintenance fees every single year since.
Libs conned us.
still are
So is being on HFC a good thing? Could it ever change to FTTP?
HFC to FTTP uplift costs $3k to $30k.
Interesting thanks. But sounds like it’s included in the 1gbps upgrade even without FTTP?
Yeah NBN are upgrading HFC to Gigabit. NBN say HFC is configured at 750Mbps with a 1-50 second burst up to 990Mbps at least once a day.
The newly announced plan is to invest more money into HFC to allow it to support higher speeds.
Could it ever change to FTTP?
Give another 10 to 15 years and it might happen.
Yes
what about the completely stuffed fixed wireless network!!?
A more recent, independent report, calculated that it was only going to make it available to an additional 400 000 homes, not the 2 million they’re raving about.
Yep, and only if enough people pay for a higher speed connection first. Lets see how that goes, only a few people over pay for a service for a year or two while they wait only to informed they won't be getting the up grade cause a) NBN Co's trying to lower costs or b) there has not been enough up take in the area to warrant the upgrade.
Seems so stupid , I had a perfectly good optus cable connection until the NBN came along and I had to give it up for a FTTC connection. The shortsightedness of the planners just amazes me.
So we are trying to achieve something we set out 10 years ago…in another 3 years.
By then, 5G would be the standard and good luck to NBN. At my work place last year, I was forced to upgrade all the emergency response equipment from the old telephone system to 4G.
5G is not a replacement for fibre.
Anyone thinking 5g is going to replace fibre really doesn't have any grasp of basic physics.
You need a monumental leap forward in network technology for a wireless band to be able to replace fibre, something along the line of being able to truly utilise quantum mechanics in how we transmit data.
5g ain't it.
Nobody is suggesting that 5G will replace fibre. 5G will however be more than sufficient for the vast majority of residential customers. So why the heck are we wasting money laying FTTP?
OK.. so in my case, I have HFC NBN (actually still on cable for another month as it's cheaper and faster than NBN100 plans).
Assuming get NBN FTTP, I may get Gigabit speed.
Fantastic, but at what cost? No point having Gigabit speed if it's going to cost me $150 a month.
Currently on Telstra cable and getting 110Mbps down / 3Mbps up with a ping of 12ms.
Gigabit is great to have but I wonder how long it will be before I 'need' more than 100 Mbps? 4k streaming doesn't require it.
Gigabit is useful for people who may work with very large documents / images / videos and are working from home as well as households with multiple people using 4k streaming / gaming etc etc. Its also future proofing, the other advantage and really the major difference from cable to NBN is the upload speed. I had 100mbit on optus cable which is more than i get from my current NBN FTTN (I was forced to change over) but the up speed i get is way better than my optus which was 2Mbit.
I agree it's great to have, but my point are the 2 million homes that have access to Gigabit going to get Gigabit if it's going to cost $150 a month?
No point supplying it if the cost is out of reach for the typical household.
Most people are reluctant to pay for NBN100 for $90 a month and elect for a cheaper 50Mbps plan. These people aren't going to pay for Gigabit.
I'll be impressed if NBN offered Gigabit as standard and got rid of lower speed plans.
You are paying $90 buck a month for cable, with a hilarious 3mbs up.
You will be much better off on FTTP.
You can get 100/20-40 for less than $90
I get 5Mbps on a good day…I don't really care for uploads.
Cable has been rock solid. No downtime or dropouts in the past 12 months that I'm aware of.
With the bundle deal I'm on, it's about the same price as most NBN50 plans.
does this mean nbn prices to the moon?
Hmmm ¯_(ツ)_/¯ but what do I do with my current fttp?
Haven't used it in 1.5 years, ironically back in 2015, I'd pester the NBN guy on what he was installing, and then check the online road map…
Now it just sits there turned off… ¯_(⊙ʖ⊙)/¯ Odd I say…
Well it's all because of Telstra air…
Biggest liberal backflip in history.
costs billions of dollars more to get the initially tendered outcome.
"But we're creating 25,000 jobs"
Logic
The last thing we need to do is give the NBN more money to writedown and pay their exec's in bonuses
Iike the people above me say I see it to believe it.
I see this as just another excuse to waste more money in an (already hopelessly) obsolete technology.
What makes it obsolete?
Sign me up scotty. If I have to pay $150 or more on a 2 year contract to get off this horrible copper line, then its the way it has to be.
And I think 5G is still pie in the sky as they have to get the availability, the capacity and the price right for it to challenge anything.
Just creating headlines. NBN trying to keep up with 5G otherwise NBN is going to be irrelevant especially in the cities.
It was a really good idea of the government to take on the NBN debt instead of telcos having to and making a commercial return (NOT).
Its a lie. And even if they do it, LNP f'd it up in first place. Sometimes you have to destroy something that's perfectly good, just to make it your own.
I'm 6km from a state capital's CBD.
NBN advises the expected TC4 speed will be 23 Mbps.
Expected max TC2 speed will be 20 Mbps.
Actual is 23/7Mbps.
No 5G.
If NBN has a mandate to provide a min 25Mbps then WTF is the deal?
This beggars the question being asked….
Who do you blame for the NBN speeds and now this backflip?
I'm sure it was asked.
Personally I blame the short-sighted idiots who would probably believe a 33.6kbps modem will suffice with a 512mb HDD being enough for all data transfers.
Look what do you do when you get away with robbing everyone for years? You do it again, and again, and until there's nothing left to steal.
Then u walk away with a million dollars per year protected pension. Greed has never been so good.
Op sorry i might be blind. But can you please link the article that mentions "Half of FTTN will be upgraded to FTTP by 2023."
The 2021 NBN corporate plan that was released later in the afternoon says the predicted take up is only 400,000 to FTTP by 2024.
Thanks mate. Yeh I didn't think it sounded right. 400k prems is more realistic.
Might be a good idea to edit the post? :)
In the mean time, while we wait, NBN ought to double every low end plan speed limit, 25mbps to 50, 50mbps to 100, 100mbps to 200, etc..
hehe and not charge more tooo!!! LAUGHING OUT LOUD! :-)
heresy - everyone knows nothing is free - not air not water and certainly not the internet - it's the only american amendment still operating.
Malcolm Turnbull apparently knows the ins and outs of the internet and technology. Oh wait we still trying to fix this plan huh
lol..generalisation of the decade.