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[NSW] Free 6.6kW/5kW Solar System: Pay 10.8c/kWh (10% off) for Solar Electricity for 5 Years, Full Ownership after @ Powapower

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[NSW] Free 6.6kW/5kW Solar System: Pay 10.8c/kWh (10% off) for Solar Electricity for 5 Years, Full Ownership after @ Powapower
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AssociatedLPowa Power on 04/07/2020 - 09:00 powapower.co (455 clicks)
Last edited 04/07/2020 - 20:15 by 1 other user

Hi Guys,

This is a follow-up post for the previous deal. We were doing a small test run last time and we now officially launched our Gday Powa Solar Plan.

Zero upfront installation cost. Cheaper electricity cost as low as 12c per kWh. PAYG - you only pay what the solar system generates. Plus the system is yours after 5 years.

In response to the previous post, we have decided to let all ozbargainers have 10% off their solar plan. You just need to mention you are a fellow ozbargainer.

No more solar jargons. No more worries about poor quality solar. Save from Day one!

Youtube is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JaViOzIfzk

Please check our website for details: https://www.powapower.co/

Feel free to contact us at: 1300 076 920 email: [email protected]

Thanks,
the Powa team

System Details

6.6kW Panels: 22 x 300W or 21 x 315W Tier One
5kW Growatt or Goodwe Dual MPPT Inverter

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  • mandachic on 04/07/2020 - 09:03

    So what’s the total cost to me?

    • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2020 - 09:06
      +1

      I don't think they can predict that, because it's entirely dependent on your solar generation.

  • triviums on 04/07/2020 - 09:11

    Is their a minimum cost?

    • King Steuart on 04/07/2020 - 09:15
      +1

      Yeah, 10% off free.

    • AnophthalmiaCervidae on 04/07/2020 - 09:31
      +2

      Per FAQ.
      The energy will be measured and charged based on the overall solar system generation.

      So what you pay is based on how well the panels perform.

      Say if panels generate 25kW a day (reasonable if you have optimal orientation) you would pay 25 x 365 x 5 x 0.108 = $4927.5

      If the panels produce more energy than you consume (and with feed in tariffs less than they charge you for production) you would be better off covering the panels with blankets to reduce the production.

      • PeppaCat on 04/07/2020 - 09:47

        Based on the posts on some forums, most family can generate about 40-50 kw a day.

        Let’s use 40kw a day, then 5 years cost is 7,884.
        For now install solar cost about $3000-4000. (Depends on there brand, this deal may use cheap panel). So if your yearly bill is more than $1000, then it’s OK.

        Please keep in mind in the first 5 years, most family will pay more.(for me it’ll double my bill)

        • prkr on 04/07/2020 - 10:40

          but if you’re currently paying 25c/Kwh and your first 40 Kwh are 10.8c/Kwh wouldn’t you be saving?

        • wayne7190 on 04/07/2020 - 11:28

          Assuming the system generate 40kw/day
          An average household use during daytime let's say 5kw/day at 15.3c/kw off-peak charge
          FIT let's say 7c/kw
          Without Solar you would pay $1396 for 5 years off peak charge
          In 5 years, you would pay them $7884 but you save $1396 from the off peak charge and also get FIT 35kw/day at 7c $4471 credit. So total out of pocket is $2017.

          Compare to a let's say $4000 system upfront.
          In 5 years you would save $1396 from off peak use, $4471 credit so $1867 credit. So almost no different at all.

          Based on what I've found, most systems only generate 20-25kw on average. At 25kw/day, you would be $976 out of pocket with them and $49 credit on a $4000 upfront system.

          In most case I would say you would be better off going with them. But that's assuming their system is comparable to other $4000 system.

          If you use more off-peak then the deal gets even better

          P.S. This is all assuming we can use FIT to offset the cost. If not, you would be much better off getting a system upfront.

        • coxymla on 04/07/2020 - 21:19
          +1

          No way will you generate 40-50 kWh per day on average, especially in NSW.
          I have a 5/5 system facing North East in WA and my summer average is 27.

      • DmytroP on 04/07/2020 - 10:45

        If you keep FIT, no need for blanket as FIT is comparable. So in the worst case you are not paying anything (assuming FIT is close to 10-12c), if you consume you are paying less and you have the system after 5 years. Looks like a good deal, certainly better comparing to having no solar system installed. Another question - is it better comparing to just buying the system? Not so obvious, depends on quality of panels and inverter installed, for cheap system may be better to buy it outright.

        • yfxsmike on 04/07/2020 - 11:12

          Origin has once got some plan at 20c/kWh and the energy australia I just signed up for with the $200 cashreward has 10.5c FIT which I believe covers all the cost?

      • truemana on 06/07/2020 - 07:02

        Few corrections here…

        The units are kWh, a unit of energy (3600 kJ), while kW is an instantaneous unit of power (1kJ/s).

        We’ve had a 6.6kW completely north facing system in SEQ for 2.5 years and total generation is 23.7kWh/day. That’s before export. After internal solar use, it’s 19.5kWh/day. That’s with two people who work during the day and very infrequently use AC/heating. We use substantially less as a couple than the average single person according to our power company (even before we got solar).

        Anyway, doubtful they’d get 25kWh per day net export.

  • SJ50 on 04/07/2020 - 09:14
    +1

    Is this 10% on top of 10% Direct Debit discount?

    • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 09:37

      Yes. Only for Jul.

      • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 10:13

        If sign up in July, the discount is for 5 year term?

  • rifter on 04/07/2020 - 09:14
    +1

    I paid upfront elsewhere and got return-on-investment in 2 years.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2020 - 09:20

      Interesting idea, but yeah even in Melb I paid mine off in 4yrs.

    • Zephyrus on 04/07/2020 - 11:59
      +1

      No shit, that's their business model. They provide the capital and get the profits for a while, you get the asset at the end.

  • Twinkletoes Terry on 04/07/2020 - 09:14

    "Our solar suppliers: only trusted brands in solar - …..HUAWEI…..

    • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 09:53

      Hi We also offer ABB or Sungrow, both 10 year product warranty.

  • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2020 - 09:17

    So how does it work?

    • They install the system for nix,
    • You keep the 7.3c FIT,
    • But you pay 10.8c for whatever is produced (whether you use it or feed it back into the grid).
    • in 5yrs it's yours to keep & you don't give them anything else & get to pocket the FIT?
    • delfredo on 04/07/2020 - 09:20

      Can we use feed in tariff rebate to offset 10.8c?

      • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2020 - 09:23
        +1

        Yeah I'm guessing. So you're still paying 3.5c to export. Your better off covering up the panels when you're not using electricity.

        • mudguppy1 on 04/07/2020 - 09:40
          +6

          there's a new market. remote control solar panel blinds for powapower customers

      • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 09:42
        +1

        10% off so it is less than 10c. AGL you can get as high as 21c. Dodo is 12c? A lot of other retailer offer north of 10c.

    • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 09:40

      Hi, I think you should consume at least part of generation, right? That's at least 23,24 cents, if not 30cents of saving.

    • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 11:01

      You have to remember this is for NSW, where higher FIT can be obtained. Also no State Government incentives as there are in VIC.

  • JAP01 on 04/07/2020 - 09:36

    Can the existing solar owners(people who already claimed the govt rebate) can join this program at $0 CAPEX?

    • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 09:38

      Yes. You can still put another/new system on your roof, if your roof and your connection condition allow.

  • MojoMiwo on 04/07/2020 - 09:50

    What happens if the solar unit fails within the 5 years?

    • ozdesi on 04/07/2020 - 10:00

      good question, solar industry has a lot of scam models.

      • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 10:23

        It will be covered by the Product Warranty and our Installation Warranty as required by CEC. Check with our representative for details. We only work with Tier one panels and branded inverters.

        • pelanalcon on 04/07/2020 - 12:40
          +2

          1. Will your company carry out the actual warranty service or some other Sub-contractors within that 5 years?

          2. If your company goes bankrupt within 5 years time what’s happens to the solar panels installed? What’s happens to the contract and electricity rate?

          • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 14:17

            @pelanalcon: We carry the warranty.
            If say we go bankrupt within 5 years then I guess you don't need to pay the electricity to anybody anymore.

            • mps41 on 04/07/2020 - 14:46

              @Powa Power: The obligation to pay would likely persist after bankruptcy and may be sold on to someone else, but if a system actually fails then it won’t be generating anything and there is nothing to pay for.

      • yfxsmike on 04/07/2020 - 11:14

        They'd better get good once or their business model doesn't work.

  • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 09:50

    Can you detail how generation is measured and uploaded?

    • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 11:13

      🦗 🦗 🦗

  • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 10:01

    What are the default system specs?

    What options exist for specifying parts used?

  • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 10:07

    Please refer to Homepage-> What solar options do I have

    • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 10:19

      6.6kw Solar System : Tier One 300W/315 Panel 22 pieces or 21 pieces + Growatt/Goodwe 5kw Dual MPPT Inverter

      Too generic. Can you list model/part numbers?

      • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 10:23

        Hi do you mind to check with our reprentative for details? Thank you.

        • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 10:54

          Aren’t you the Rep?

          • yfxsmike on 04/07/2020 - 11:16

            @Steptoe: I think he means you need to talk privatly and share some detail with him to confirm as it is a personalised solution.

  • angyp on 04/07/2020 - 10:56

    So I only pay for what the system generates? So during the night or on a poor solar day who pays for what I pull from the grid?

    • bargaingod123 on 04/07/2020 - 11:01
      +1

      your job pays for it, maybe the government if you are jobseeker.

    • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 11:05

      You are still liable for supply charges and grid drawn power at you normal rates. The 10.8c/kWh is only for self consumed power.

      I’m still curious on how it’s measured. The YouTube video talks about using approved meters, but not sure that is possible for behind the meter power.

      • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 14:20

        We use a NMI approved meter to measure the actuall energy output.

        • Steptoe on 04/07/2020 - 15:18

          Thanks for clarifying.

          Do you need a permanent internet connection for the Comms?

      • mps41 on 04/07/2020 - 14:43

        It is bound to be a wifi-connected inverter that is set at install time to upload generation data to the inverter maker and is set up so that both the installer and you have access to the data. Then they just bill you off that. If the connection fails then they may estimate or the number can be read directly from the inverter display.

        There are other ways it could be done, but that is by far the simplest as no additional hardware or software is required.

        edit: perhaps not based on the comment above. They may install an extra approved meter to make this measurement instead.

  • 420dream on 04/07/2020 - 11:53
    +1

    Interesting, do you do installation jn Canberra?

    • Shoocat on 04/07/2020 - 12:25
      +1

      This is my common niggle with these solar deals. Does NSW mean metro Sydney, country areas? Queanbeyan?

      It'd be nice if installers posted service coverage maps on their websites.

  • orin on 04/07/2020 - 12:11
    +1

    You would expect FiT to go much lower in the near future. And in three years potentially negative, as we get to the point of excess energy during the day.

    What happens if at some point the FiT becomes negative? Is there a contract clause to cover such situations?

  • dngo on 04/07/2020 - 13:59

    Is this offer available in VIC?

    • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 14:18

      Sorry. NSW only.

  • Roger Ramjet on 04/07/2020 - 15:35

    Not really Free is it?

  • IsTops on 04/07/2020 - 16:29

    How do you make money when the solar system is free?

    • Steptoe on 05/07/2020 - 19:33

      They get about $2.50/day for 5 years per system

      • 420dream on 05/07/2020 - 22:01

        @Steptoe I am interested in this kind of deal (PPA) I have made a post about it here but not many responsed. I was wondering if a system will cost me cash outright for $5000 then the same system with this PPA i will be worse off $5000 + $2.5/day over 5 years ($4450) roughly ? Thank you

        • yfxsmike on 06/07/2020 - 11:57

          why it is $5000 + $2.5/day? I thought it is just the $2.5/day and you may save a bit of money on your electricity bill.

          • 420dream on 06/07/2020 - 15:00

            @yfxsmike: @yfxsmike I am not sure hence the question, if we only pay $2.5/day and after 5 years on ownership I guess it works the same if not worth more than finance the whole system. How do the company make the profit? It sounds too good to be true though

            • yfxsmike on 06/07/2020 - 15:59

              @420dream: I believe you can see PPA as finance the system as you pay back your money over a five-year contract. The only good thing about this is that you don't need to worry about the warranty of the system as the company wants the system in good shape or they don't get their money.

              • 420dream on 06/07/2020 - 20:43

                @yfxsmike: Well i guess that is not too bad considering during the contract term if anything happens they will come to get it fixed rather than if i go to cheap solar company that hire cheapest subbie and wont even bother to come back to fix anything.

  • jwsc on 04/07/2020 - 19:28
    +1

    im so confused!
    Cheaper electricity cost as low as 12c per kWh (for self consumption). PAYG - you only pay what the solar system generates.

    The first sentence makes it sound like you only pay for what you use. the second sentence makes it sound like you have to pay for the extra electricity that the solar system makes. =S

    so do we pay for it or not?
    if we do, do we get paid by the grid for whatever excess is sent out? and does this cover the cost we have to pay?

    • AssociatedPowa Power @ powapower.co on 04/07/2020 - 20:17

      You pay whatever the system generates. The excess (generated by solar system but exported to the grid) you will get paid your electricity retailer under a Feed-in Tariff (FiT) scheme.

    • chyawala on 05/07/2020 - 11:00
      +2

      As most people are out at work, to make use of the solar power would be ideal to set staggered delays on dishwasher, washing machine, dryer etc throughout peak daylight hours. Otherwise in this scenario your paying them a premium over regular FIT, and then getting stung with peak grid tariffs.

      • Steptoe on 05/07/2020 - 19:34

        FIT can be as high as 21c/kWh

      • whooah1979 on 08/07/2020 - 08:44

        This deal comes just in time for the covid unemployed and WFH workers.

  • JAP01 on 04/07/2020 - 21:19

    I am interested in exploring a similar offering in Vic? Don't want to wants to hijack this threat, Please PM me if anyone can recommend a company. Thanks

    • od810 on 13/07/2020 - 22:54

      Hey mate, i am in the process of getting my 2nd solar system with battery through Origin VPP (i contacted their subsidiary Horen & Bird). They offer very competitive package, for me it is 5.28kw panels + sungrow hybrid inverter + 7kwh BYD battery for 8.25k. If you are qualified for vic rebate and loan then your upfront cost will be $4550 ($1850 rebate + 1850 loan).

      The catch is that you have to be part of origin for 5 years, and they have access to your battery at any time (they pay you credit if they use the battery and $300 is given to you in the first year no matter what). Another thing is that you will get 20c FIT through their solar boost plus plan for 2 years.

      I am still waiting for their assessment, they said they will send installer out to discuss the installation after getting approval from the grid.

      • JAP01 on 13/07/2020 - 23:07

        That sounds very good and I'll check them out tomorrow.Thanks for letting me know

  • od810 on 13/07/2020 - 22:46

    So what if i turn off the inverter or cover the panels with blanket? Does it mean i use electricity for free?

    • od810 on 13/07/2020 - 23:50

      Nvm i understand the model.

  • yfxsmike on 23/07/2020 - 14:29

    Just wondering if anyone took the offer and any feedback?

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