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HPM 250mm Ducted Exhaust Fan $39 (Was $126) @ Bunnings

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HPM 250mm Ducted Exhaust Fan $39 (Was $126) @ Bunnings
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TRAVELO on 04/06/2020 - 23:47 bunnings.com.au (5498 clicks)
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These exhaust fans are ideal for bathrooms, kitchens and laundries with a “honeycomb” design to maximise airflow and reduce the build up of dust, mould, mildew and fogging mirrors. Strong air extraction, up to 330mᶟ/h. Save time thanks to an easy installation.

3 year warranty
Ideal for bathrooms, kitchens and laundries, Helps prevent build up of mould, mildrew and fogging mirrors
Strong air extraction, up to 330m3 /h
Easy plug-in connection
UV resistant plastic
700mm power cord length

If you don't like the colour.. just buy spray paint for plastic.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/dulux-340g-duramax-flat-white-sp…

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  • RichardL on 04/06/2020 - 23:58
    +6

    Isn't this the same, but white for $36.47?

    • MMM on 05/06/2020 - 00:00
      +12

      Yes but why buy a white one for less when you can paint this one:)

      • TRAVELO on 05/06/2020 - 00:02

        Didn't even see that one! edit: Not ducted

      • highon2str on 05/06/2020 - 00:13

        thanks will get the white!

      • justtoreply on 05/06/2020 - 07:59
        +3

        Painting 2d is easy. Painting a grill is hard due to overspray. Paint dribbles are gonna look crap and reduce airflow

    • BlueMM on 05/06/2020 - 00:01
      +2

      That on is not ducted

      • wikiwiki on 05/06/2020 - 08:30

        What is the difference between ducted and non ducted?
        I'm looking for one to put in the bathroom (toilet only) Is this one too loud/strong?
        Wouldn't want to be circulating the smell around.

        • placard on 05/06/2020 - 08:47
          +5

          Ducted is quieter as the motor is further down the line, not near the grille.

          Too strong won't make the smell circulate around, the smell is being sucked away. It's more than if it's too strong it's uncomfortable, you're going to be sucking so much air under the door/window that it's going to be cold in winter.

          You don't often need huge air flow, just enough to create negative air pressure so smells don't enter the house and enough to take away steam from bathroom.

          Obviously more will be better, but it is counteracted by being unpleasant draught so you need to find a happy medium.

          • ganymede on 05/06/2020 - 11:11

            @placard: I know what to you are saying but this model has the motor on the unit/grill itself not away from the unit like you said.

    • RichardL on 05/06/2020 - 00:03
      +1

      Never-mind, the one in the OP is the 'Ducted' Variant

    • kungfupanda on 05/06/2020 - 08:37

      looks like the size dimension is different - bit smaller

    • pdtmathieson on 05/06/2020 - 08:48

      Good review on that one:

      Kevin
      return.
      1 out of 5 stars. 13 days ago
      Bought this online for a shower ceiling exhaust fan. The grill is so large that flies, spiders, and other small nasties can enter from the roof cavity.

      Give it a rest Kev

      • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 09:32
        +1

        Kev has been venting it directly into his roof cavity. Kev's middle name is Karen.

        • kiteo on 05/06/2020 - 19:13

          It's pretty common to duct into older tiled houses with whirlybirds.

  • 777 on 05/06/2020 - 00:02

    This one is much better imo 750m3
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-250mm-high-capacity-exhaust…

    • tunzafun001 on 05/06/2020 - 00:06
      +18

      Not a fan? (I'll see myself out)

    • simulacrum on 05/06/2020 - 08:22
      +1

      I’ve got this one in the bathroom. It pushes a lot of air, won’t leave any steam in the bathroom, which is great. But it does make a lot of noise. I’ve got it hooked up to a 3-speed fan controller, and on medium and low speeds it makes very little noise.

      • 777 on 05/06/2020 - 09:10

        Mine one makes very little noise,not faulty?

        • simulacrum on 19/06/2020 - 12:06

          The actual motor is pretty quiet the noise is just the sound of the air flowing through the grill. My parents have the same one in their shower and it makes the same sound. 750m3/h is pretty high volume of air getting pushed through.

      • VerticallyIntegrated on 05/06/2020 - 09:50
        +1

        What fan controller are you using?

    • picklewizard on 05/06/2020 - 15:27

      Deta isn't a quality brand - it's Arlec's cheaper brand for stuff they don't want associated with the already cheap Arlec name!

    • sween64 on 05/06/2020 - 18:39

      And almost double the price.

  • chasis on 05/06/2020 - 00:12

    Does anyone have any advice on adding a timer function to these? So that it will switch off 30min after I turn it for example.

    • TRAVELO on 05/06/2020 - 00:14
      +3

      Just get a sparky to install it. https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/HNS440TM/cabac-minute-mech…

      • chasis on 05/06/2020 - 00:17

        Thanks very much. I assume that piece just replaces the regular toggle switch in the gang plate?

        • TRAVELO on 05/06/2020 - 00:20
          +1

          I'm not sure entirely how it's mounted but it is a timer for exhaust fans.

        • batrarobin on 05/06/2020 - 01:07
          +1

          It's a 3-wire so wouldn't work by simply changing out the gang switch.

          • Jklaro on 05/06/2020 - 05:31

            @batrarobin: I think 3 wire means it needs a hard active switch wire and neutral. So you might need to run another wire from the neutral join that should be behind the switch plate in new homes.

            • batrarobin on 05/06/2020 - 08:55

              @Jklaro: Yes, so if the switch is on an internal wall running a neutral wire might not be feasible.

    • BlueMM on 05/06/2020 - 08:34
      +6

      If you are adding a timer, it might be better to do what they have in Scandinavian homes, a moisture/humidity sensor. So you leave it on (it might not even have a switch - not sure) zand it just kicks in when needed. Wish they had them here as a normal install.

      • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 09:34
        +5

        In Australia we are backward in many aspects of home design, including insulation which is more basic than a Humidity sensor (which makes total sense!).

      • perfeksionitst on 05/06/2020 - 10:31
        +1

        I’ve got a Xiaomi smart plug and temp/humidity sensor to do the same thing.

      • chasis on 05/06/2020 - 11:43

        Thanks, this is a great idea.

    • spaceflight on 05/06/2020 - 10:00
      +1

      You could use a smart plug and a phone app

  • Pace210 on 05/06/2020 - 07:01

    use a smart plug - easy

  • Xizor on 05/06/2020 - 07:36
    +5

    I would worry less about this not being ducted and more about their not being a draft stopper.

    • dtrinh on 05/06/2020 - 07:57

      Any recommendations for non ducted version?

      • Xizor on 05/06/2020 - 08:05
        +2

        Depends on use case but we recently had some by fanco installed. Having draft stopper imo is mandatory.

    • justtoreply on 05/06/2020 - 08:09
      -1

      Wet and dry cycles do not do good things to timber or metal. Do you care about your roof truss? I would suggest ducted is mandatory

      • Xizor on 05/06/2020 - 09:08

        No doubt ducted is ideal but not always practical. I can only speak of houses ive been in which are decades old tiled roofs that naturally had a little ventilation, usually a whirly bird too. Plus bathrooms with widows.

        • gguu on 05/06/2020 - 16:16

          bathrooms with widows

          Poor widows :(

      • banana365 on 05/06/2020 - 09:16
        +4

        Our house is 50 years old and every fan vents into the roof space - kitchen, laundry and two bathrooms. I thought it a daft design when we moved in 15 years ago, but there's been no problems whatsoever. Having a tiled roof ensures that there's plenty of gaps for airflow (don't get me started on crappy Australian house insulation). Having a tin roof with unducted fans would be asking for trouble though.

    • DannyBoy on 05/06/2020 - 08:50

      Was thinking the same thing, plus no mention of a DC motor

    • Steptoe on 05/06/2020 - 09:23
      +1

      Is there one in the outlet?

      https://hpm.com.au/app/uploads/2018/05/efd01-data-sheet-1.pd…

    • placard on 05/06/2020 - 11:54

      I get the idea to cut down heat loss, however I think there also needs to be a bit of airflow otherwise houses get too airtight and stuffy = mould.

      Keep seeing so many threads of people saying their indoor humidity is too high. I think this is because houses are becoming better sealed, they don't do wall vents like they did in the past,etc.

      You do need some fresh air to enter the house to combat humidity from showering/cooking (despite fans), and to prevent mould growth.

    • BlueMM on 05/06/2020 - 12:46
      +1

      If @Haxxa's link to the spec PDF is the one that is actually being sold, you can see from the photos & diagram that it has an inbuilt draft-stopping flat on the duct exit.

      • BlueMM on 05/06/2020 - 14:55

        eek, flat = flap

    • TRAVELO on 05/06/2020 - 18:14
      +3

      Can confirm there IS a draft stopper on this unit. I've plugged mine in and it's great!

  • justtoreply on 05/06/2020 - 08:02

    So.. Ducted. Draft stopper? High airflow (too noisy?). White. What's the best one on the market? Our bathrooms are describable as moist after a shower, I dont want to stuff around with lesser products

  • pdtmathieson on 05/06/2020 - 08:06

    Thanks legend, my fan in the laundry died a while ago due to almost always being on, so good time to replace.

    • justtoreply on 05/06/2020 - 08:07
      -1

      Careful of starting a fire. Dunno the details but my partner said it happened at her parents house

      • pdtmathieson on 05/06/2020 - 08:47
        +2

        Uhhh I guess that's the same for all electronics that are always on?

        • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 09:36

          especially true for exaust fans.

          • spaceflight on 05/06/2020 - 10:02

            @Naigrabzo: What about pedestal fans and desk fans?

            • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 14:49

              @spaceflight: Those are fine I think. The exaust fans I suspect are not made for continuous operation. that's just a guess.

              • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 14:50

                @Naigrabzo: I know one person whose house burnt down due to exast fan but I am sure that's just a coincidence perhaps. I am just scarred by that; that's all.

              • spaceflight on 05/06/2020 - 16:18

                @Naigrabzo: They still aren't designed for extended use and have burnt houses down

                “They’re very lucky, if they had slept through this it could have been a lot worse,” fire cause investigator Rod Kersten said.

                He said pedestal fans are not designed to be run all night

                https://au.news.yahoo.com/overheating-pedestal-fan-sparks-10…

                Any electrical appliance can fail and burn your house down so if you aren't using it it is safest to turn it off.

  • brownbag on 05/06/2020 - 08:35

    Where do you duct it to?

    • placard on 05/06/2020 - 08:50
      +1

      Usually across to another vent attached to under the eaves.

      I haven't got mine ducted, it just vents straight into the roof space. Whilst others will frown upon this, I don't see the problem. It's putting steam into a large area (roof space), which has no sarking (older house) so there's so much airflow up there it will never grow mould. I've been up in the roof and there's no issues whatsoever.

      • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 14:51

        could this potentially force dust etc elsewhere into the house through down lights etc?

        • banana365 on 06/06/2020 - 09:51

          Not really, the pressure created by the fan would be distributed over the entire area of the house. You'd have to have a tiny house for it to be likely to force anything significant out of the roof space.

  • chack008 on 05/06/2020 - 09:21
    -2

    I got these installed recently. They have better suction and is pretty quite.
    https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/ce250/airflow-ce250-ceilin…

    • Andard on 05/06/2020 - 09:27
      +2

      pretty quite what?

    • BlitzR on 05/06/2020 - 18:33
      +1

      I have this exact model. It's sh*t. It's not quiet, it's very noisy, has no draft stopped and isn't ducted, which lets dust come into the toilet constantly. I've place an order for the one in the OP to replace my clipsal one.

  • smurfz on 05/06/2020 - 09:30

    Thanks OP. I've got the non-ducted one of this at the moment, and I found it significantly noisier than the previous one I replaced. I will give these ducted ones a go. Will have to paint them white though will buy a replacement cover.

    • highon2str on 05/06/2020 - 09:36
      +2

      Would a noisier fan be a benefit in this instance, so you remember to turn it off?

      • smurfz on 05/06/2020 - 14:25

        Funny. My wife said the same thing! Anyway my order got cancelled.

      • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 14:48

        I think it does. Mine is too quiet and can't be heard if I close bathroom door (which is just a slider).

    • spaceflight on 05/06/2020 - 10:04

      You can buy a white non ducted one here https://www.bunnings.com.au/hpm-250mm-white-round-ceiling-ex…

      • smurfz on 05/06/2020 - 14:28

        That's what I have at the moment. Impossible to forget about it.

  • Sidor on 05/06/2020 - 09:32
    +2

    Does it need a duct pipe connected to it? What size duct pipe is required if one is not cluded with the fan?

    • chinaman on 05/06/2020 - 16:53

      Yeah i think so.
      Might only need ducted if not tile roof?

  • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 09:38

    Does anyone know whether you can retrofit a timer into a normal switch for a fan like this? Why don't these come with timers pre installed? Happy to pay for one with timer.

    • bio on 05/06/2020 - 11:10

      Because the timer should be on the wall? How is it supposed to keep running after you cut the power using the switch?

      • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 14:47

        Yes whichever is fine but I really thought that this day and age, we'd have timer preinstalled (on wall and whatever) so I can just switch it on and walk away knowing it will stop in 10 minutes etc.

  • AceIsMe on 05/06/2020 - 10:34

    I really need a quiet fan. Airflow is not so important to me as long as it's quiet. Does anyone have any suggestions?

    • [Deactivated] on 05/06/2020 - 11:13

      Don't buy anything cheap. I've made that mistake.

    • placard on 05/06/2020 - 11:55

      I've heard the Clipsal exhaust fans are good.

      If you want quiet, don't buy anything from Bunnings - they are all cheap and noisy.

    • Xizor on 05/06/2020 - 12:49

      We just got some fanco round ones that are relatively quiet imo.

      • AceIsMe on 05/06/2020 - 14:55

        Can they be installed with the original cut in the ceiling? I think I like these ones. Noise level is rated at 39.7db.
        Where is the best place to get these fans?

        • Xizor on 05/06/2020 - 15:06

          We had to make the holes slightly larger but it took the installer all of 60 seconds to enlarge.

          • AceIsMe on 05/06/2020 - 16:21

            @Xizor: Any recommendations on installer and where to buy it? I live in Melb.

            • Xizor on 05/06/2020 - 16:34

              @AceIsMe: Nah im in nsw but any decent sparky can do these quickly. If there is already a plug fitting in the roof its literally a 10min job for them, maybe 20min if they need fit a socket/cut the plug off and wire into a terminal box. Im too lazy i just paid a bloke took an hour to do 3 including a yarn.

              • AceIsMe on 05/06/2020 - 17:15

                @Xizor: After checking the specs, I realized that it will fit as per my old one so I just ordered one for $89 delivered. Thanks for your input.

    • BOGOF on 05/06/2020 - 14:11
      +3

      I really need a quiet fan

      Brisbane Broncos fans are very quiet at the moment.

      • AceIsMe on 05/06/2020 - 14:47

        lol….

    • Naigrabzo on 05/06/2020 - 14:46

      I have a quiet fan but not convinced it's very powerful.
      https://www.fantech.com.au/FanRange.aspx?AppID=D3&RangeID=18

      I do wish it had a timer though. It's so silent that I can accidently leave it on. I am convinced that my house will one day catch on fire because of it.

    • TRAVELO on 05/06/2020 - 18:13

      I just plugged mine in, it's very quiet!

  • smurfz on 05/06/2020 - 14:23

    Got a call on click collect order. No stock in Sydney north 30km radius. They cancelled the order.

  • TRAVELO on 05/06/2020 - 15:01

    Picked up my click and collect from Castle Hill. Still plenty of stock on the on the shelf, just not showing online…

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