The Ryzen 5 3600 is also $273 at Amazon Australia, if you prefer local.
- make sure you change the seller to AMazon US before purchasing the item -
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Lowest price in the last 3 months? Good price!
It's actually been $208.02 via Amazon AU if you look on camelcamelcamel: https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07STGGQ18
Fantastic price, fantastic cpu. I got it for roughly this price in December and it hasn't been close since.
Debating upgrading my 1600 and x370 since looks like miss out on 4000
Or should I just wait for a really cheap 3700x since not in a hurry
Id be waiting for the 3700x to go on clearance. Last year the 2700 went for $200 around July - September.
Cheers
thats what i was kind of hoping for but guessing more people are going to be doing the same since 1st gen mobos are nerfed… and tempted by some extra frames in the occasional game
I have X370 and I was disappointed to hear that I'll be missing out on 4000 series too.
I upgraded from 1700 to 3600 around Christmas and holy hell games ran so much better.
If you aren't going to be upgrading your chipset then I'd probably wait for a good 3700X deal but any CPU 3600 or above will be well worth it now.
I have X370 and I was disappointed to hear that I'll be missing out on 4000 series too.
Why? It's unlikely that the jump from 3000 series to 4000 series will be anywhere near as big as the jump from 2000 to 3000 series (it'll be a more incremental jump like 1000 to 2000 series).
In any case, your X370 can go all the way up to a 3900X or 3950X. If someone told you when you got your X370 board back in 2017 (or whenever) that you could get a 12 core CPU for $670 in 2020 with IPC that rivals Intel, would you be unhappy? I think that the 3900X is probably the best upgrade path for those who bought into the original 1700/1700X/1800X parts.
If I was told the high end chipset I would be buying would be given PCIe 4.0 then yoinked away also it wouldn't support a later CPU despite being the same socket, not because of a physical limitation but because AMD wanted to sell new chipsets then I wouldn't necessarily be unhappy. I would have gone for the dirt cheap entry-level B320 to tide me over.
If I was told the high end chipset I would be buying would be given PCIe 4.0 then yoinked away also it wouldn't support a later CPU despite being the same socket, not because of a physical limitation but because AMD wanted to sell new chipsets then I wouldn't necessarily be unhappy.
X370 doesn't have the electrical standards for PCIe 4.0. Nobody ever said X370 would be compatible with 4000 series…
I'm no AMD fanboy, but I do think that there should be some objectivity when thinking about these things. If you got X370 with a 1600 back in 2017, you can upgrade all the way to a 3950X. Let's not pretend like that's disappointing.
Excellent price, bought! Thanks OP.
Anybody knows how warranty works for pc stuff sold by Amazon?
Wow, this is getting cheaper everyday!
I read a finance news that AUD could be 1:1 to USD again, just like 2008. Maybe all CPUs will be cheaper later this year?
what in 2075, otherwise not sure where you read that, as most economists are predicting it to reach 72c - 75c against the USD & settle there, so I wouldn't be waiting on the AUD to reach parity for many many years.
Lol no way. 1:1 was a one off.
It's getting harder and harder to say no when you keep getting this cpu shoved in your face daily.
HAHAHA! I am now lost while looking at 3 CPUs choices.
does the shopback 7% apply to this deal?
neither shopback nor cashrewards give any cashback on PC's (or PC parts) at the meoment
For those who don't know much about this CPU:
3600 is a very popular mid-range all-rounder AM4 Ryzen (the best platform right now for value motherboards and upgrade path).
Great CPU if you know for sure you need at least 6 cores and 12 threads for making heavy workloads finish sooner.
Just don't forget that for gaming, the $205 3300x is faster (and so is the $260 intel i5-9400f 6c/6t, though that's got no upgrade path. And The newer next-gen intels are terrible value in this segment right now because the mid and budget range motherboards aren't out yet, you're looking at like a hundred bucks extra for nothing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQ1YuBaxLs
https://youtu.be/ymxUhUH-BgE?t=734
so if gaming is important to you, consider those too.
Note that the upgrade path on AM4 is a bit messy right now. B450 motherboards are likely to get support for the next generation, but only with stripped-down BIOS updates that will kill support for older CPUs. Any older motherboards probably won't get support at all, and I don't think B550 (which has proper support) are released yet.
X570 has full support, but is expensive.
Yep that's exactly the case unless the Mobo has 32mb of bios space, for the 16mb there will need to be compromises and a spliting of bios paths (i.e. when you get your 4xxx cpu once you update to the appropriate bios there is no going back) ..I think B550 is due later this month and will cost close to X570 prices on launch before going down (ala B450 launch).
Yeah AMD said B450 wouldn't be supported for the next gen Ryzens, but then said it would IF motherboard manufacturers make a BIOS for it. So I think it's still possible some cheap B450s may not get support in the end.
But even without next-gen Ryzen support, AM4 still has a better upgrade path than i5-9400f's socket, because it supports current-gen Ryzen 9s. If it turns out in 10 years that many major games are bottlenecked by only have 4 or 6 cores, those flagship Ryzens will have you back in the game for cheap.
(No predictions about upgrade paths are certain, but this is exactly what I did with my old PC: bought a 2c/4t, and when it finally wasn't enough 9 years later, popped a not-quite-as-old $35 4-core in it, and now it can still play modern AAA games).
Msi said all msi b450 boards will get zen 3 support. If you want graphical bios look for the MAX msi line of boards.
Would the AMD 3600/B450 with a GTX 1660 Super be a good combination for VR build? Or could recommend a better upgrade path? I currently have a G4560/LGA1151.
this combo is totally fine. i am about to build the same too
It's fine, but VR is still gaming, so the 3300X is still better than 3600 for that.
And since it's also $50 cheaper, the money you save can be put towards a better GPU if you like, which would let you play with higher settings.
But wait, you already have an LGA1151 motherboard? Then i5-9400f is a good option for you. $260 CPU, instead of $350-450 for both motherboard and CPU, will get you basically the same upgrade (similar gaming performance to the 3300x and 3600). Just check your motherboard's CPU support list on the manufacturer's website. (That'll get you an even better GPU upgrade).
@plentifoo: @plentifoo:
It's out of stock on Amazon right now (like most good PC parts). Try one of the reputable local retailers, several have it for 205 + shipping:
https://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=3300X
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/NvCFf7/amd-ryzen-3-3300x…
@ItsMeAgro: I have H110M PRO-VH PLUS Micro ATX which doesn't appear to support i5-9400f. Anything else on the Pcpartpicker Compatibility list worth buying?
Works for my RTX2080.
Note that the upgrade path on AM4 is a bit messy right now.
I honestly really think that people are making this more complicated than it has to be. At some point, you have to draw a line with where an old platform ends and a new platform begins.
Even if you buy a B450 board with a Ryzen 3600 today, you can still upgrade all the way to a 3900X or 3950X at any point, which is arguably still a huge upgrade path. I don't see why anyone would try to argue that it's narrow.
If you live on the bleeding edge with a 3950X and are ready to jump at the next launch, then maybe you need to have a look at X570. The differential between a good B450 board and X570 is narrowing to around $100 or less these days.
You can't really compare this to the old Intel platforms of yore because when you bought into Z270 with a 7700K, for example, you were already at the top of the stack. I can see why you would be annoyed when you couldn't upgrade to the 8700K and had to jump to Z370.
It's really not the same for B450, especially if you're targeting the 3600. You still have a huge upgrade path. Just to put it into perspective, a 3600 -> 3950X is like going from an 8700K -> 7960X, it's jumping all the way from a lower mid-range chip all the way to basically a "HEDT with less PCIe lanes" chip.
All valid points. The purpose of my comment was just to highlight that the upgrade path isn't the obvious "any AM4 board will accept any future AM4 CPU".
It's still a good platform (I have one myself!), but if future upgrades are important to you, it makes sense to ensure you'll be able to use Ryzen 4000 series chips. Sure, you can upgrade to a higher core chip from the current series, but you'll be missing out on any improvements to single core performance (and who knows how availability of Ryzen 3000 will be in 3-4 years?)
@JMC: I completely agree with what you're saying, however, my point was just that, at some level, you end up spending more money just to make sure things are backwards compatible and that's never made much sense to me.
I actually started on X370 with a 1700X, then upgraded to a 2700X, then a 3900X. Honestly, I feel that I've gotten more than my money's worth from my 2017 motherboard. Maybe others may feel differently (and that's okay), but I do agree that AMD should be clearer about this from the get-go and I do feel for people who've bought a B450 board with a 3900X or 3950X in the last few months who have found out they now potentially have a dead-end platform.
@p1 ama: The lack of backwards compatibility isn't the biggest issue, but you do lose the full graphical BIOS (and potentially some features like fan curves etc) depending on what the OEM needs to cut to fit in the 16MB space. For most people it won't matter, but you'd want to be aware of the potential compromises before buying.
The i5 9400f has bad frametimes to the point of making some games like the Witcher a stuttery mess even with a mid range GPU like the 5700xt. Don't get fooled by raw framerate. It's not the CPU to get for gaming.
Plus has the same memory issues as 10th gen non K CPUs
The 9400f is only faster on expensive z motherboard boards. Most people would be buying B/H boards with the 9400f and those boards are limited to 2666mhz ram speed. 3200mhz (can be found cheaper than 2666mhz) on an affordable b450 board the 3300x wins.
This benchmarks below demonstrates a real world system step up comparison between the i5-9400/i5-10400/3300x/3600
You can see the 9400f is falling behind in mutlicore heavy games like shadow of the tomb raider.
I had my heart set on B450 MSI Tomahawk but it's too expensive at the moment.
3300X or 3600 : what's a good motherboard? Something reliable, don't need overclocking or bells and whistles.
B450 Steel Legend is a good option at around $170-$180.
Look at their Mortar MAX for around $180. It's the micro-ATX version of the Tomahawk, and has a 32MB BIOS chip for future upgrade compatibility.
I currently have the 2600 on a b450 board. If I upgrade to 3600 do I need to update the bios or will a straight swap work?
Depends when you bought your board. More likely than not, you will need a BIOS update.
Fine I'll bought one and you guys can thank me later when the 3600 drop below $250 when AMD announce 3600XT next week.
Bruhhhh. I got this for 329 during covid era.
Do you guys think 3300X will drop in price sooner? I'm doing a decent gaming build.
I'd say just go with a 3600, it's a no-brainer at this price.
3300X will drop in price soon?
Probably not. Demand is high and stocks seem relatively low - about half the sellers on pcpartpicker au seem to be out of stock:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/NvCFf7/amd-ryzen-3-3300x…
Hi. I’m keen to get this processor. Suggestions please on mobo and gpu for video editing on Davinci Resolve? Not a gamer. Thanks.
Can you afford the 3700x? I would suggest that for video editing over this, as for gpu I can't comment in that area :)
building a slim profile m-ITX for gaming, can someone vet it for me? (for dimensions and price etc)
Price includes delivery from either Amazon or Scorptec.
CPU Ryzen 5 3600 - $269.93
GPU MSI Gaming RTX 2070 Ventus GP - $678.85
MOBO MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC - $252.50
RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 2x8GB - $134.94
CASE SilverStone Milo ML08 Slim ITX Case - $152.50
STORAGE Crucial P2 500GB M2 NVME - $132.50
SFF PSU SilverStone 700w modular gold - $212.50
COOLING Low profile fan to replace stock AMD fan - $24
Total - $1,857.72 delivered
Yeah that looks perfectly fine. The 2070 looks to be a decent price given it's cheaper than the 2060 Super's I've seen.
You won't need a 700W PSU, you'll be fine with a 450W SFX. I run a 3950X and 2060 for my portable workstation on a 450W just fine. The Silverstone Gold 450W SFX units are awesome.
The MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC is now $204 @ Amazon US via Amazon Au.
Alternative GPU is ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super Mini for $646 @ Amazon US via Amazon Au.
Nice I’m doing a similar build with exact same pc case. If you can; wait till mid june for B550 motherboards release. May drop price for existing B450 lineup or get next gen ready board at similar price.
I’m stuck between gtx 1660/ rtx 2060 ko and rtx 2070. :-/
Parts list updated with final tweaks and price changes:
CPU Ryzen 5 3600 - $269.93
GPU MSI Gaming RTX 2070 Ventus GP - $678.85
MOBO MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC - $203.84
RAM Gskill ripjaws V 3200mhz 16GB 2x8GB - $113.13
CASE SilverStone Milo ML08B-H Slim ITX Case - $162.50
STORAGE Crucial P2 500GB M2 NVME - $105.05
SFF PSU SilverStone 450w modular gold - $142.50
Total - $1,675.80 delivered
If there is a possibility you will be upgrading your GPU in future, a 450W PSU could be limiting; I would say at least 550W and I think it will not cost a lot more. Also check what the recommended PSU is for the GPU you have selected.
For the RAM you have selected, confirm the height is not too tall for the cooling fan. If unsure, Corsair Vengeance LPX is the safer bet.
thanks for the recommendation - will be looking at the 650w instead.
I just found that the 5700xt ($607.85) is a much better for value card and performs at 2070 super ($863.30) levels for less than the cost of a 2070 ($671.84).
what gives?
If you look at benchmarking reviews, the 5700XT is more comparable to RTX 2070 and below the gaming performance of RTX 2070S. It appears there is more variability in quality and performance of 5700XT GPUs than RTX equivalents e.g. drivers, thermals. The highly recommended 5700XT is the Sapphire Radeon version (https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07WC7683C?context=se…) which is going for $654 on Amazon.
I have considered 5700XT but most models (including the Sapphire Radeon) are two wide for my Fractal mini-ITX case.
@viirgon: Thanks. The 5700XT has widely more variable FPS across different games but its 1080p performance seems to trump the non super 2070 quite consistently. Since the Ryzen 3600 expired/sold out i'll instead be going with the 3300x recommended by ItsMeAgro further up in the post - saving myself another $64.
I did some more research and decided to revert back to the 450w gold plus PSU. I have no intention of upgrading the GPU and since I'm going with just 4 cores instead, I feel a good quality 450w should more than cut it. I'm actually quite happy that I got the built to under $1.5k. I need to decide now whether to pay the additional $50 for the sapphire card.
CPU Ryzen 3 3300x - $205.00
XFX 5700XT Triple Dissipation - $607.85
MOBO MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC - $202.61
RAM Gskill ripjaws V 3200mhz 16GB 2x8GB - $111.96
CASE SilverStone Milo ML08B-H Slim ITX Case - $162.50
STORAGE WD Black 500GB NVME - $119.38
SFF PSU SilverStone 450w modular gold - $142.50
Total - $1,497.38 delivered
@petry: hope you read my comment, not just the parts list.
"I did some more research and decided to revert back to the 450w gold plus PSU. I have no intention of upgrading the GPU and since I'm going with just 4 cores instead, I feel a good quality 450w should more than cut it. I'm actually quite happy that I got the built to under $1.5k."
Power draw on this setup is 360w based on pcpartpicker:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3j6b8
@plentifoo: you run any psu even close to its rated maximum for very long it stress's components.
450 gold will have pretty shite parts - you'll be lucky to make minimum waranty at rated power because output will decrease over time anyway.
@petry: Thanks for your advice mate but i'm pretty confused by this statement.
450w gold plus has pretty 'shite' parts? I have a silverstone 450w SFF and by all accounts it's a solid PSU:
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5614/silverstone-st45sf-g-…
also i believe one up from gold plus is platinum - i don't think many people build PCs with platinum rated PSUs.
360w out of the rated 450w is 80% load (not close to its rated maximum) - and a quality PSU should be able to handle that just fine.
cant find the 273 from australia deal guessing its gone.
It's gone down further to $265 on Amazon Au and $262 on Amazon US. My order was just delivered today so I fired up a chat with Amazon to get $20 promotional credit. A loyal Amazon customer!
Just letting you guys know, I've contacted eBay via livechat and asked if I'm able to price match and I got a yes. So if you guys are willing to pay $300+ but get the money back in a voucher (the difference + 5%) eBay route is the best. :)
Solid deal, I purchase mine a month ago for $279. Quick shipping if you buy off the aus seller as well.