Another day, another 3600 deal.
A powerful 6-core processor with 12 threads
With Zen 2 architecture
Features 32MB of L3 cache, 24 PCIe Gen 4 lanes
Support for dual-channel 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM
Designed for socket AM4 motherboards
CamelCamelCamel.
I haven't ordered a 3600 but the last 2 orders I've gotten from Amazon US took roughly 2 weeks to arrive.
SAME… 2 weeks from order to delivery .. the estimated times are WAY off .. my 500GB and 1TB Nvme drives from this deal here -> https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/536711
Took 2 weeks and the ETA on those still say 12th of June even though I've already received them.
500GB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe for $117 + $7.42 Delivery is a pretty darn good and its back in stock for anyone who missed out.
out of stock again (500gb). have to wait again. how much did you pay for the 1tb drive?
@aec: the 1TB cost me $253 Free postage ( 3 weeks ago ) and ordered the 500GB for $119 a few days before.
They go on sale every few weeks.. just need to check every day .. morning and night.. prices changes all the time on all sizes.
500GB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe for $117 + $7.42 took only a week to get delivered.
Yeah I ordered a book that came from the US, took about a week to arrive.
Amazon US sent me out a GPU with Fedex. It left Amazon's Baltimore warehouse on Thursday the 21st and arrived at my door on the 26th in Vic, Aus.
Tuesday , 26/05/202011:08DANDENONG NORTH AU
Delivered
09:20NSW RURAL DEPOT AU
In transit
Tendered to authorized agent for final delivery
08:15NSW RURAL DEPOT AU
At local FedEx facility
Sunday , 24/05/202018:51MATRAVILLE AU
International shipment release - Import
18:51MATRAVILLE AU
In transit
Package available for clearance
Saturday , 23/05/202011:57HONOLULU, HI
In transit
Friday , 22/05/202018:14MEMPHIS, TN
Departed FedEx location
05:31MEMPHIS, TN
In transit
05:07MEMPHIS, TN
In transit
Thursday , 21/05/202023:55MEMPHIS, TN
Arrived at FedEx location
20:10BALTIMORE, MD
Left FedEx origin facility
17:39BALTIMORE, MD
Picked up
17:22
Shipment information sent to FedEx
That's just nuts. Like I understand international flights don't take a month etc, but I feel like given most of our other shipping options (even within our own country) getting a package from the NE USA in under five days is just nuts. Welcome, but nuts.
If you notify them about late items using live chat they'll usually credit your account with the purchase amount and give free shipping if you buy the item again.
Wow. That price. AMD really doing a number on intel. Thats a really good processor at a great price.
it's not a deal as such it's standard pricing as markets adjust back to a near to pre covid era - I paid less for Oz stock CPU in November/December
Unfortunately everyone posts 'deals' it's hard to judge what truly is a good price. Interestingly Amazon didn't have the best price or even near to it when I did my build
If you can hold off building, these CPU will drop to below $250 in Q4 as Zen 3 desktop CPUs are released
Zen 3 pushed back to next year. But prices should drop with the XT refresh announced June 7.
Yep the falling Aussie dollar made many things more expensive.
yeah this is first time in a while one of these 3600 posts has actually been a 'deal'
$289 + shipping on shopping express. And you may get the game pass (worths $30)
But realistically, worth more like $1 with all those deals
can be.
The benefit of going SE route I would venture would be to get it quicker and to avoid any potential warranty issues but keep reading mixed reports as to whethers its easy to deal with non DoA issues through amazon international.
Thoughts on this?
I've currently got a 2700x oc at 4.25ghz in a crosshair vi hero with 16gb 3200mhz ram.
As I understand it my mobo won't support the 4000 series.
Is there a significant performance boost?
Mostly PC used for gaming. Some photo and video editing (go pro vids, astrophotography stacking and editing).
You mean just cpu upgrade or would you go the whole way?
Just the CPU, full upgrade prob end of next financial year lol
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-A…
Barely an improvement (1.2% avg benchmark difference, probably a downgrade for some applications), and your crosshair 2700x OC setup may actually perform better than a stock or even OC 3600.
I'd review when next gen comes out (prices of 3900x etc) or combined MB/CPU upgrade.
Personally couldn't justify any upgrade from that setup to any current generation CPU, even for tax purposes. I'd basically need money to burn before upgrading that at the moment.
(disclosure 2700x owner)
@buffalo bill: You do realise that userbenchmark.com is one of the worst websites you can use to make a CPU comparison and has been banned by the r/AMD and r/Intel on Reddit.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/UserBenchmark-gets-banned-from…
@shellshocked: Been researching these few days with all these AMD CPU deals and the conclusion is no, for gaming you won’t see any noticeable difference upgrading from a 2700X.
Better either getting a better video card(if you don’t have a fast one already) otherwise save your money.
@shellshocked: True - but given OP has overclocked his 2700x and we don't know his system benchmark (by any measure), and he is asking if there is "a significant performance boost"; it's a moot point. The answer is going to be no.
His post is not weighing up between two new CPUs off the shelf for X price and Y price.
Time and effort aside, he'd barely get $200 for used 2700x, pay almost 50% extra to "upgrade" to a 3600, and it wouldn't be 50% better. In OPs case, there is a possibility it wouldn't be any better.
@buffalo bill: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_5_3600x-…
This is a better link to use for comparison.
@AusNugz: That's true, although even better if that was a comparison to this processor advertised in this post 3600 rather than the 3600X.
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_5_3600-9…
Very difficult to compare without OPs benchmark result which would likely favour retaining his OC setup.
Wait for 3000 XT. They'll get a nice clock bump which will greatly improve game performance. And yeah X370 likely won't get Ryzen 4000 (Renoir).
MSI just revealed that select b350 and x370 mobos will get beta bois, so i've got fingers crossed for the CH6
Where are you getting this information? AMD haven't released B350 microcodes for Ryzen 4000, so unless MSI are reverse engineering the B450 ones they can't do that. MSI only confirmed B450 and X470.
@Void: https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Slide.jp…
slide from MSI's insider briefing ~4 days ago
there are a bunch of b450s and x470s which are electronically identical to their b350 and x370 counterpart, just with different branding, maybe that's how they're backporting bioses?
@xrailgun: Congratulations! You played yourself. That says B450 and X470 will get selective, not B350 and X370.
yeah cheers, that's what i'm thinking
The 3600X had clock boosts as well and nearly every review says its not worth the extra money. What's going to make the XT any different?
It will be a much bigger jump. +500MHz vs the +200 on the X.
Nothing. It will cost around the same price as the 3600x or a bit more as it will be at RRP not discounted like the 3600 is
I have a 2700x and a 3700x, the 3600 slightly outperforms the 2700x in most game titles but the 2700x is still a really good gaming cpu and doesn't really improve the overall experience. For non gaming tasks they're pretty close but the 2700x does win out.
Edit: I would suggest waiting for Ryzen 4000. The 2021 rumours haven't been substantiated since they also suggest that Ryzen 4000 will be on 5nm which is incredibly unlikely.
Regarding your board supporting Ryzen 4000, AMD walked that back and will offer new beta bioses for B450 and X470 after the first wave of new CPUs goes out. The changes to the bios can't be undone and many CPUs will be dropped from the support list. They didn't specify which CPUs would be dropped but there is a chance you won't be able to drop your 2700x in after the update.
cheers. yeah my mobo x370 series won't support the 4000 series, confirmed on the MSI slide presentation. So if/when I upgrade to the 4000 series it'll probably be a full system rebuild
not worth the sidegrade unless you can sell the 2700x 2nd hand for within $25 of the new 3600.
it may be worth it depending on how much you can sell that one for, and verify that you can push some more frames on the games you run at your resolution.
mainly overwatch at 1080p resolution on an UW monitor 120hz, fps around 200-220.
What chipset are you using?
AMD went back on the original announcment with plans to allow board partners to support 4000 series on B450. So you might be in luck (and would be worth waiting for rather than a very minimal jump now.
Unless like me (first gen Ryzen and B350) your board is truly becoming a doorstop.
x370. so yeah. Doorstop
Can anyone recommend a suitable mid level mobo for this ? And if this is worth the extra over a 3300x since on some benchmarks they seem to be on par for certain workloads.
The current go to is the MSI b450 tomahawk, apparently has very good vrms that will let you comfortably upgrade to and overclock the 3900x/3950x while being reasonably priced.in future should you want to.
whats the current go to for a matx? Iam currently using asrock ab350pro4 + 1600
ASRock B450M Pro4(-F)
All 3 B450 variants from MSI are well regarded and could handle up to 3950x. Tomahawk ATX, Mortar mATX, Gaming Plus AC ITX.
Yup, I am using it with a MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX and works like a charm.
MSI Mortar Max if you dont need full size ATX like the Tomahawk. Still has 4 ram slots and quality VRMs so can run a 3950x. About $40 cheaper too.
I’ve just had to purchase the 3300X after my old motherboard just died. Waiting on delivery (got it for $205 delivered from PLE) and have ordered a MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX which will support Zen 3.
After looking at all the gaming benchmarks I couldn’t see a reason to spend the extra for the 3600 when in majority of games the 3300X seems to either be on par or outperforms it. If/when I need more real cores I’ll upgrade to the 4000 series CPU.
No point spending extra now on something you ‘may’ need later on when by the time you do you can just get a better performing processor for cheaper.
Different if you need it for productivity as well, but if it’s gaming and general PC usage save your money and spend it elsewhere.
Can anyone recommend a suitable mid level mobo for this ?
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max seems to be recommended fairly often. The AsRock B450 Steel Legend is also a really nice board at around $50 or so cheaper than the Tomahawk.
And if this is worth the extra over a 3300x since on some benchmarks they seem to be on par for certain workloads.
If the 3600 is $280 and the 3300X is $205, then yes, I would go with the 3600. At the price they were at a few weeks ago, i.e. 3600 at around $350 and 3300X at $205, then the 3300X made sense. With the 3600 at $280, the 3300X needs to be around $170 to make it really viable.
If you can spare the budget, go for 3600. The price different is just ~$70 and you have extra 2c/4t. Modern games will push 3300x close to its limit, and then when you throw in background apps like chrome, discord, mail etc. it will struggle. 3600 will last you couple of years whereas with 3300X you have a very high chance of having to upgrade again much sooner.
What are people’s thoughts on getting parts from different suppliers for a build?
My PC has been blue screening fora few months now (2014 build) and I’m in the market for a new build. Last time I bought everything from PCCG for ease but it looks like there’s much more value to be found.
Is the annoyance of independently sourcing parts actually that annoying?
Also I’ve heard everyone saying now is a horrible time to build - is this likely to change in a few months or worth just biting the bullet?
Yup - in the same boat. I want to upgrade my mobo/cpu/RAM from an old i5 but not in a particular hurry. Not sure what is really a "deal" at the moment.
There can be big differences between stores especially on things like the cpu (saw a $70 difference between pccg and s/e the week before), even with paying postage twice you are coming out in front. You can prob get parts like CPU/RAM for cheap from amazon + sign up to prime for 30 days free to get free delivery too.
The last 3 builds I've done has been amalgamations of parts from different places, always based on cheapest prices. Never had an issue.
Is the annoyance of independently sourcing parts actually that annoying?
Not really, you might have to pay more for shipping.
Also I’ve heard everyone saying now is a horrible time to build - is this likely to change in a few months or worth just biting the bullet?
Well they're wrong.
The 3600 here at $280 is close to the cheapest price ever. Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB on the other deal at $211 is cheapest price ever. Get a 5600 XT for $470 (https://www.amazon.com.au/GIGABYTE-WINDFORCE-Graphics-256-Bi… or https://www.amazon.com.au/Gaming-Radeon-RX-5600-XT/dp/B083VP… or https://www.amazon.com.au/PowerColor-Red-Dragon-RadeonTM-560…).
That's $961 for the three most expensive components. Plenty of motherboards available for less than $200, e.g. the AsRock B450 Steel Legend for $170 or so. Get a 500GB SSD for around $100, case for around $100, PSU for around $150 and you've got yourself a top notch $1500 build that's better than anything you could have gotten in the past year.
Well, I paid $2000 for a build with 3700x and 2080 last year. Now it'll be around $2300 to get to similar level. CPU and RAM aren't so bad, at least their price stay the same instead of increasing. Everything else have had a hefty price pump compares to last year.
How so? 2080 is similar to a 2070 Super, which is around $850. The 3700X is around $470. Easy to build something up for around the same price if not less. No way it's $2300.
@p1 ama: 2080 isn't exactly similar to 2070 Super. It is much closer to 2080S both performance and price. 2070S does have superior value 30% cheaper for 5-10% less performance. I have been looking up price recently to plan a build for a friend, some differences like
Certainly you can swap out parts with much better value p/p now, but the same parts I bought last year have all gone up in price. Normally you would have expected things like CPU & GPU to go down a lot after 1-1.5 years, or you should have been able to spend the same but get much much better performance. But with so much going on this year I guess it's not too bad to have alternative that come close enough p/p wise.
Thanks for the input Ozbargainers, I think I have a pretty good idea where to go from here
Why do we keep seeing the same product every day and the prices are not much different or the same. It's a bit of a spam.
Its a popular product.. i think people vote more for the CPU and not so much for the price..
Buying this CPU at RRP is still the best bang for buck anyone can spend VS buying any other CPU out there.
Every single reviewer cant praise this CPU more. it offers the best price for performance all while using less power form the wall.
The same people that upvote these rrp 'deals' are the same guys that go on an Apple/Intel thread and rip it to shreds.
Not really.. like i said.. AT RRP this CPU is just awesome.. better then wasting money on any other CPU for that extra 15% improvement in gaming while spending 100% more. Im looking at 9900k and 10900k :)
It's a good price, the 3600 is still $300 - $320 at the major retailers like PCCG, Scorptec, PLE, MSY…etc.
does anyone know how much better is it then a i5 7600k?
Userbenchmark is viewed as a very bad benchmark to use for CPU comparisons.
https://ownsnap.com/userbenchmark-is-not-trusted-by-tech-ent…
USERBENCHMARK.com is 100% paid Intel propaganda advertising site … dont use it ever again.. anyone posing it gets banned on REDDIT it should be banned here too.
Intel is still really good for gaming and tops those charts if that's your 80% use case. Of course will need a high end GPU to not have any cpu bottleneck the games as they're mostly gpu bound (especially at high res).
if multitasking, ripping, encoding etc then the AMD will smash that 7600k.
at a guess you'll probably lose about 20% frames in comparison to the 3600 if you had like a rtx 2060 super.
7600k is trash vs a ryzen 3600
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_5_3600-9…
8% faster single core
57% faster multi core (cinebench)
Got one. Waiting for the MSI B550i Gaming Edge Mobo to be launched to pair with this.
Some 550s are on amazon for pre order
Any examples? I can't find any on AU or US site.
This model was on the US site for 149US but i can't seem to find it now. Heres a link for the Canadian listing
Waiting for the MSI B550i Gaming Edge
Why? Rumours are saying the launch price will be $199 USD (see: https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/grl9gl/msi_b550i_gam…), which makes it $300 AUD, plus GST is $330. Given the "Australia tax", you'll end up paying around $350+.
For a full-size ATX board where you can leverage the additional PCIe 4.0 speeds, it may be worth it, but with ITX, you're limited to one PCIe and one M.2 anyway. You might as well just go with B450, which is $229 for the AORUS PRO WiFi, for example.
It's silly to pair a $350+ motherboard with a $280 CPU. If you were running a 3950X, then yeah, fair enough, but you're not.
My final decision will come down to the price differential between the B450 and B550 for a mini-ITX build, to decide if the premium is worth the extra features. Will look at other B550 offerings from Asrock and Asus as well. The current price for the MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC is ~$250. Will look at other B550 offerings from Asrock and Asus as well.
I am upgrading my current mini-ITX setup and the thinking is that I only need to update the CPU in future without replacing the mobo. But I agree it would not make sense to spend more than $300 for the mobo.
another day another its normal price buddy
do you guys reckon I should go for the i5 9400f for $255 or this?
for gaming purposes btw
This one
Go for this AMD chip. Way better.
You'll have greater upgrade options with the AMD platform
Not sure if this will really make a huge difference upgrading from Ryzen 1600 first gen? I use it to game/run an unraid server.
That's a dam good price, compared to the 3930k and 4930k(are really 8 core CPU's binned for 6 core), as they're x79 boards never to be upgraded to x99 or any other board, thanks intel.
Where amd has always made am4 compatible to a variety of CPU's so you can see intel never cared about the consumer, it shows even in Nvidia now officially switching to amd CPU's to power those beastly gpu's in parallel clusters for learning.
Intel's just slow bottlenecked behind its own marketing literature
So looking at this CPU it reminds me of Sony disregarding backwards compatibility.
Yeah apples and oranges.
New poster, so hopefully this makes sense…
This CPU is available for $270.00 AUD from 1 Amazon seller (mPAFOJaf) (https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07STGGQ18/ref=ox_sc_ac…).
Combine this with the eBay deal to 'pricematch + 5% voucher of cheaper item' - so I purchased the CPU from eBay Scorptec for $328 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-3-6-GHz-6-Core-…).
I expect to receive $71.85 voucher ($58.35 price difference + $13.50 for the 5% bonus), which I'll use on my next PC part purchase.
Overall, I get Aussie stock (quick shipping, tracked, local warranty, etc.) from a good retailer. :)
What is the promotion period for this eBay deal? Not clear from the T&C. Did you get the voucher straight away? And did you just contact eBay immediately after placing the order from Scorptec?
I've asked them through eBay chat before.
Basically they'll check your claims then get back to you with a eBay voucher that expires within 90 days.
It's good and bad.
When you use the voucher, you'll need to find another good deal on eBay (if any).
If not, you'll need to request another price match for another voucher thus forever trapping you into this loop.
Sounds like too much trouble unless the savings is significant enough?
Those who ordered this last time from Amazon US, has it arrived yet? seems the price keeps dropping but the shipping takes forever.