https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/12524183691705016…
Trump is signing executive order to suspend immigration to US..I'm not sure it's large scale implications…open for discussion..
Trump Suspends Immigration Temporarily
pyramid on 21/04/2020 - 13:04
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Maybe Americans are fed up with their wages being suppressed by unfettered immigration. The H1B program is a globalist engineered scam
It seems there are some of trump fanboys here.
I'm one of them and I'll vote for him again this coming up election!
100% pro-Trump good president
I was 50/50 on him when he was elected because the media made him out to be an idiot but in practice he is a brilliant president
Please enlighten us on what he is doing that is so good.
Everything he does is so good.
@MementoMori: So how many of these are currently valid? Oh, and great idea picking a site for being well known as a far right conspiracy site.
@try2bhelpful: try2bhelpful: "Show me a list"
MementoMori: "Here is a list"
try2bhelpful: "I don't like that website"FYI each item on that list links to a news source that you can easily verify yourself (WSJ, CNBC, etc). Most of them are hard stats that you really can't dispute. For example:
- Youth Unemployment Hits 52-Year Low,
- BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RECORD LOW,
- Worker pay rate hits highest level since 2008,
- 480000 Manufacturing Jobs added since President Trumps election, etc.
Do you dispute any of the above? If so, let me hear your reasoning.
I imagine you'll just attack the website or the character of Trump supporters or something just as intellectually dishonest instead. Now you know why people say 'Orange Man Bad', cause in essence that's all you've said so far.
Don't you have friends in the US who tell you how awesome it is there currently (pre-Corona)? My friends all tell me there are plenty of great jobs around and wages are going up up up, even the ones who hate 'Cheeto Hitler'.
@MementoMori: try telling the gang raped women and the young incest victims in prison who are there for trying to get an abortion…
@petry: Ahhh, the typical tactic - the topic change.
Why not address what I wrote above? Because you can't.
FYI, abortions are 99% personal choice and less than 1% rape/incest. It's disingenuous to make an argue like that.
Not to mention you can get abortions just about anywhere, it's just that you shouldn't force taxpayers to pay for them (especially people who have strong religious beliefs).
Pay for your own abortions.
@MementoMori: no topic change
you wrote
'in the US who tell you how awesome it is there currently (pre-Corona)?'
Instead you insistently assert that young girls under 12 who get pregnant from incestuous rape should now pay for their own abortions, even though its illegal to get them now - you sort of ignored that fact.
This site should be ashamed because you ain't or your supporters.
@petry: You're using a straw-man argument. Again, another fallacy, just like topic changing.
I never said 12 year old rape victims should pay for their abortions. I don't think anybody says that, except for what you imagine in your head.
Of course, 12 year old victims of crime (rape) should receive tax payer funded medical care and abortion if required (the extremely rare, fraction of a percent of abortion cases) as we do with all other victims of crime. This is what practically everyone thinks.
It's a pretty weak, obscure example and argument that why you need to use emotion to try and make it stronger.
I'm talking about the 99% of abortions, those who choose them for lifestyle reasons - I don't want to be forced to pay for this change of mind or preventable mistake. This is a very reasonable position. For people who's religion forbids abortion, it's doubly wrong to force them to pay for them.
My wallet my choice.
@MementoMori: @MementoMori: no topic change
you wrote
'in the US who tell you how awesome it is there currently (pre-Corona)?'
Instead you insistently assert that young girls under 12 who get pregnant from incestuous rape should now pay for their own abortions, even though its illegal to get them now - you sort of ignored that fact.
This site should be ashamed because you ain't or your supporters.'
Backpedalling on what your pro trumpy stance includes doesn't wash - the extensions to the criminal justice he has overseen are overreaching and inhumane. You support those changes, and when challenged with the human consequences of that overreach you obfuscate, people are imprisoned for accidental abortions now.
@petry: I'm not back-pedalling.
Genuinely don't follow your argument or reasoning.
Are you saying a 12 year old rape victim is in jail because she had an 'illegal abortion'? (or rape victim of any age?).
If not, can you be more specific on what these changes are, or better yet, link to these changes? (ideally not mainstream propaganda, the actual law).
Just in the same way I provided a huge list of issues, sources and links as was requested (and has not been disputed, so I presume have been accepted as fact?).
@petry: Ummm yeah… never said this… "Instead you insistently assert that young girls under 12 who get pregnant from inc#stuous r#pe should now pay for their own abortions"?
"insistently assert"? Huh? I even specifically clarified I do not think that should be the case…?
I'm talking about the 99% of cases.
Not the obscure 0.01% ultra rare freak scenario (you realise I agree with you on this?).
I also challenge that it's even happened at all in the Anglosphere / Western World (US, Australia, NZ, UK, Canada). As you made the claim, the onus is on you to demonstrate that it has. I can see it's happened in Ecuador and Indonesia, so you should take your argument up with them.
FYI - a list of logical fallacies - https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/fallacies_list.html. So, so far that's:
- 'appeal to emotion', (12 year old r#pe victim)
- 'straw man argument',
- 'personal attack' and
- 'appeal to force' (OzBargain site operators, 'this site should be ashamed').
I thought there would be a name for arguing the ultra rare edge case of 'abortion due to inc#st child r#pe' but I can't find one. So many in so few words!
Maybe you're just upset that you might have to pay for your own abortions one day? Or just a really bad case of TDS.
Either way, go have one if you want, it's your (and your babies) life. I'm not saying it should be illegal, just don't expect me to pay thanks.
If I 'accidentally' chipped a tooth, would you (taxpayers) pay? Of course not.
I wouldn't call someone a fanboy for supporting a democratically elected leader.
The people have spoken dude. Trump has been no better or worse than most ptesidents tbh. He's actually got a lot of historic accomplishments to his name. Do you honestly think the Saudi supported Hillary Clinton could've struck a peace deal with North Korea?
Can see there’s a few CNN and MSNBC viewers here lmao
yep plenty of support here for the current worlds greatest mass murderer
For not locking down earlier? States like New York begun stay at home orders at around the same time we did here. Massive overstatement to say he has blood on his hands. His opponents also underestimated the virus and criticised his early moves to restrict travel from China and Europe as xenophobic. The Democratic house speaker Nancy Pelosi also tried to introduce legislation to stop his executive orders on travel restrictions at the time they were made. Dr Fauci, his leading expert on diseases, who served every president since Reagan also underestimated the virus. As soon as Fauci recommended mitigation in late March, again the same time our country reacted, Trump acted and instructed the shutdown of the economy, and Fauci admitted this himself. The prejudice against this president is huge.
The media is incredibly biased against him. The US economy had been going well, he's the first leader to realise dropping the proverbial soap in the shower block isn't the only option in trade negotiations with China, he helped stability in North Korea, Iran relationship is not good but the diplomacy displayed following the missile incident a few months back was excellent.
Here's a detailing of the many failures of the administration:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-t…
But you don't need all that. Trump constantly downplayed the severity of the virus. He pushed for reopening (wanted churches packed on Easter Sunday), didn't advocate for masks, constantly pushing his bunk hydroxychloroquine claims and most recently is backing protesters that want to re-open states ahead of medical advice.
Downplayed the virus - so did every democratic candidate, and most medical experts, unfortunately no one knew the real severity of the virus until outbreaks occurred in Italy and Spain.
Pushed for reopening - he did not reopen early though, he was just hopeful
Didn’t advocate for masks - WHO still does not advocate for masks, our leaders here still don’t advocate for masks, he ended up encouraging them having the First Lady promote them early this month.
Hydroxychloroquine - He never said it was guaranteed to work, only it has shown some positive results in anecdotal studies and it is already proven to be safe for over 50 years so have nothing to lose. Alternative is to wait 6 months for a randomised trial, only to have missed the opportunity when it would be most needed.
Backing protestors - Restrictions in some states are ridiculous given low cases and an sparse populations, lockdown isn’t feasible long term. An example of one stupid rule people are confused about is that in Michigan you can go fishing in a canoe but not a motor boat. Also in virginia they have proposed restrictions on guns which many feel is impinging on their second amendment rights. Not every state is New York and should not be treated as such.
Ny times - biased news source - https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/o… …. read for yourself….
@lowlifesphere: Is the president not meant to be held to a higher standard? Gosh, he isn't the opposition but the president.
People like you allow people in positions of power to get away with murder because some Joe and his dog made a mistake.
His incompetency has led to the following:
- 2 days worth of PPE gear for the entire country as he had not replenished the stockpiles after 3 years being in power.
- Did nothing in Feb but tend to his rallies, golfing commitments and impeachment proceedings
- Denied the significance of the disease until only recently
- Spruiked an untested drug to the public@mychips: you left out the chinese sanctions that he introduced that he was told would cripple America's health services and leave it unable to deal with a pandemic
You mean the guy that avoided war with Iran, Russia, North Korea, Afghan peace talks, etc etc…?
Let me guess - you like Obama, the guy who bombed 7 Muslim countries in 6 years?
stop it……… you're suppose to hate trump because you watched a youtube video.
yep plenty of support here for the current worlds greatest mass murderer
Chairman Mao and Stalin are spinning in their mausoleums, comrade.
How dare you undermine their glorious accomplishments in the name of liberating the poor, downtrodden workers of the world… by murdering millions of them.
yep plenty of support here for the CURRENT worlds greatest mass murderer ….
and he edges both of the ones you mention by targeting women and children
You may want to consult a dictionary for the definition of murder.
You may also want to remove those selective blinders you've got on that seem to discount the reports directly from Wuhan of over 50,000 people dying in that province alone from COVID-19.
But you probably won't because of course, "orange man bad."
and he edges both of the ones you mention by targeting women and children
There's plenty of freely available images of the starving dead victims of the Great Leap Forward and the Holodmor/Bolshevik famines of the 1930s, along with a leisurely 5 decades of scholarship and academic study into the statistics of both of the most heinous mass-murders in human history, which reveal that millions of dead women and children were among the victims of the brutal and deliberate forced starvation policies of both Communist regimes.
But sure, you continue to compare 50,000 flu deaths of hospitalised patients receiving intensive medical care to tens of millions of families being starved or outright killed in forced collectivisation experiments and pretend they're remotely comparable or that such a juxtaposition isn't downright insulting to the memories of those genocides.
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I note no response on my Obama comment above.
Who killed more - Obama vs Trump…?
@MementoMori: you seem to believe there were more people at trumps inauguration that at Obama's, because he said so and so did Rupert.
releasing that part of trumps election strategy a little early is revealing …
@MementoMori: you find more excuses for trump than most - title of this comment includes his name…
'According to the (Washington) Post, Trump seems to have somehow missed the “more than a dozen” briefings placed in his President’s Daily Brief (PDB), which covered the wide range of political, economic, and public health crises that a global pandemic might create. This isn’t a single session with the Centers for Disease Control, but a prolonged attempt by many in the government, worried about issues of national security, to try and impart crucial information to the dumbest man to have this much power in the history of the world.
Clearly they failed to 'impart crucial information to the dumbest man to have this much power in the history of the world.' and his supporters approve of his crucial role in spreading covid around the world against all advice….
@petry: If you actually care about human life, try Googling 'Libya body count'.
Have a think about those numbers and who started that war.
@MementoMori: France and NATO (ie the yanks) did that to stop his new currency, and dissapear his bullion.
The south american body count is already in the hundreds of thousands directly linked to trumps 'anything goes' regime change programme. Sanctions to kill women and children are his go to weapon of mass destruction because he doesn't care about human life.
No different from white australia policy.
The ironic thing is although we look down on america's views/policies,on you average day a lot of aussies look down on aboriginals and have negative attitudes towards them, but when it comes to a national event where the world is looking at Australia (e.g olympics, grand final game of any sport) aboriginals are pushed to front to emphasise culture and diversity.
Truth hurts unfortunately.
Prime example was Adam Goods and the commentators response to this.
It's a good point you make, we should really stop pushing aboriginals.
You guys do understand it's just a political ploy from Trump to appeal to his base supporters (which won't be enough to win his election). It doesn't need to make sense, just enough to make them vote for him.
Stopping migration is just hilarious as the US is the primary source of the virus now. No one in their right mind would want to go there where there is no free healthcare and the enormous amounts of conflict between federal and state level over there. COVID-19 test going to cost you $5k. Not an ozbargain lol.
he's a shoein
You underestimate the demand from developing countries, where people would take the opportunity to migrate to US in a heartbeat regardless of the covid situation.
Trump will win again easily. The amount of idiots that buy his schtick is staggering.
Trump has done a fantastic job at isolating the USA and making it less appealing for businesses and skilled migrants. Hopefully we can take in more of both away from them and gain the benefits.
Time for another country to be the world's super power.
? covid cases in US in January - he helped spread it globally…
Yeah, I'm sure the US will really suffer…
Immigrants needs the US a whole lot more than the other way around.
Yea. USA don't need international IT, coders and engineers, They don't need entrepreneurs and new starters.
The millions of American students who can't access proper education or pay for college will just fill in those gaps.Also it's very interesting that immigrants are so bad but apparently for farm labour, they are exempt from the current ban placed by Dear Leader. A direct hypocrisy, if the ban is supposed to keep the country safe, then why is he protecting the businesses of people who vote for him?
@Herbse: Correct, both Australia and the US certainly don't need the H1B / 457 visa situation suppressing local wages and working conditions.
95% of these visa types are not 'highly skilled'. The majority are useless, require excessive 'mentoring' (training) and have questionable fake degrees and resumes that HR idiots don't know how to check. Yes, of course, some are great, but most are not. Anyone (honest) who works in IT would tell you the same.
Both are forms of serfdom or slave labour, just one is a more modern digital type. What do you think happens when a 457 complains about their (low) wage or that they have to work production support on the weekend? Infosys/Wipro/Tata/IBM/Accenture/whoever will replace them in a heartbeat.
Unfair for BOTH the 457 worker and the local citizen as working standards are driven down.
One point I'll agree with you on is that there are not enough locals studying in demand fields. Multiple reasons for that, why would they study IT only to be outsourced to India? Also, too many idiots studying 'Art History' instead of something useful like IT. Demand could also be made up from overseas companies working offshore. Markets are a wonderful thing and would self correct, simple supply and demand, wages would go up and more locals would get into IT - problem solved. Instead, we have the opposite problem, there is no next gen of Aussie IT.
Imagine what wages would be like if 457's didn't exist… might even have some wage growth.
It's shameful that Australian hospitality has been taken advantage of and it's good that people are waking up to this fraud.
P.S. I agree with the farm labour. That's slave labour. Not a good thing. (Not trying to justify it but) I suppose they see it as the only way to compete in an over-globalised world where we have weird situations likes it being cheaper to import Argentinian peanuts than to just grow them in QLD.
95% of these visa types are not 'highly skilled'. The majority are useless, require excessive 'mentoring' (training) and have questionable fake degrees and resumes that HR idiots don't know how to check. Yes, of course, some are great, but most are not. Anyone (honest) who works in IT would tell you the same.
As someone working in IT for many years, that is the unspoken reality that everyone understands but no one dares question for fear of repercussions due to challenging the "muh duhversity" status quo.
Multiple reasons for that, why would they study IT only to be outsourced to India?
Also true, but again, the workers aren't the psychopathic CEOs and directors racing to the bottom by outsourcing every man and his dog so they can look good on a quarterly report by laying off all of those "expensive" locals and hiring an entire illiterate village in India so they can earn a bonus, jump ship to another organisation by the time their horrendously short-sighted decisions come back to bite the company in the ass and end up costing exponentially more than was ever saved, and then they simply repeat the entire cycle in another organisation.
457 visas and IT-in-India doing the needful are symptoms of the problem. The problem lies at the top, as always, where policy-makers, politicians and corporate captains of industry are engaging in deliberate social engineering and long-term socio-economic experimentation. Those people have to be stopped if there's to be any meaningful, nation-centric focus in working conditions.
well trumps sanctions are seen by his own military as spreading the infection to the extent he is actually killing his own troops, as well as completely infecting the entire region. America has done more to spread covid around the world than any other country, and is still deliberately doing it.
its American policy
He doesnt need to do this for his base. His base will vote no matter what.
This is for the governers. You want to keep your states closed? Well why should i let immigrants in just to be locked down in your state.
just like Trump had no chance against Hillary and she was a shoe-in.. people dont speak up because they are yelled down or immediately called a racist for voting trump, ppl just throw the word racism around for anything Republican/Trump related..
if Comrade Biden and his Chinese funded son get into power it probably be from voter fraud..ask yourself why the democrats are pushing for postal votes/no ID verification, its so their 10mil+ illegals can vote
Bullshit. Voter fraud by illegal immigrants is a xenophobic myth. No ID voting is more inclusive and representative of the adult population; we don't require voter ID for the same reason. Postal ballots allow participation by people working on election day. So… what kinds of people don't have government issued ID, and can't afford to take time off work? The poor. Restrictive voting laws are a cynical attempt to keep these people away on election day, which while beneficial to Republicans, is deeply undemocratic.
There is not a single shred of evidence of large scale voter fraud, at least in the 'immigrants lining up twice.' It's a conspiracy theory peddled by Fox News, and shame on you for believing it. The ONLY account of organised voter fraud was hypocritically perpetrated by a Republican who simply stole absentee ballots.
lol keep your eyes closed then.. look up project veritas.. hillarys goons caught on camera tallking about loading up voters on buses and sending them across state lines for voter fraud/multiple votes
what sane person in there right minds would not want the population voting to be actual citizens and provide proof? here we vote in our suburbs, advise of our name and address and crossed off the list, guess we should scrap that hey?
the only reason you would not want to introduce it is because you want to tap into the illegal 10 million+ occupants which is what the democrats want..
so you can say what you well and dress it up however you want, it is as simple as that@PappaLuigi: more garbage - republican states have been reducing the number of people who are allowed to vote to maintain power.
Machines are used that are never audited.
the US is now just a sham democracy, much like ours, with its non declared preference voting system.
Except the US military has been voting by mail since the civil war
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/how-do-you-kn…
Whats the point of this discussion, its like talking about what the Queen is doing.. USA have 0% thoughts of Australia, so why now, such brainwashed sheep of the media
Literally today our PM had a meeting over the phone with Trump to discuss how best to manage this crisis….
I think that discussion would have been more around Trump looking for Australia's support in 'fixing' the WHO.
There is plenty of international collaboration about the management of the health impacts; leaders of countries would/should be getting their advice from the health professionals.and promoting his anti china election model - people won't be happy here until there's a war - and oz will get hit hard.
enjoy dying for trump…
@petry: we all should be anti china.. its not anti chinese people, its anti chinese government.. anyone with half a brain knows the virus was engineered in their Wuhan lab. yes it may have been obtained from the USA, but the chinese enhanced it and then released it plenty of information out there for those who are spoon fed by most of the media..
why do you think they went into full media lockdown mode, too many doctors/scientists were leaking the truth out of China.. China needed it to spread around the world and the longer governments delayed their border lock downs the more it spread and the more financial havoc China was able to inflict..
China needs to pay for what they have done along with their little WHO puppet@PappaLuigi: nice try - the yanks were paying the chinese for bat samples and analysis since 2015.
The yanks published papers on it in 2016. The yanks have spent $100 billion on biowarfare since 2002.
south Carolina has been working on those samples since 2016 - that's where it was made in all probability.
it was released in china because trump hates china - collateral damage is temporary. he will ride the wave of increased race hate he has built up back to the whitehouse even though he's psycho.
America just got a lot richer, deploying the first eugenic bioweapon.
America is still deliberately spreading covid - its a lunatic strategy.
but hey injections of disinfectant or drink it…
@petry: didnt dispute that fact, Obama had kicked off all of that engineering it was during his reign
but everybody loves Obama to death as he does no wrong
lol you typing over from China, you actually think USA released it in China? Ok Comrade Petry@PappaLuigi: Obama stopped all American internal bio warfare development as you are well aware because of outbreaks from American labs inside America.
Because of this Fauci spent American taxpayer money on obtaining bat samples, and virus info from the Chinese/ French lab in Wuhan.
Fauci of course is Trumpy's selection as front man to deal with the issue he worked to create. Bit like Hitler appointing Mengele to be on telly, because he knows more than anyone about the thing he probably helped to create.
Since trump repeatedly said covid's just a bad cold its hardly surprising he was dumb enough to authorise its release in China - his main target. It served to obscured his fake impeachment trial. The real villains are pence and pompeo - the riders of the apocalypse determined to bring about the 2nd coming.
Wait, will the immigration affect OzBargain?
Honestly Trump is a good president - the media which is mostly left wing nut jobs (in Australia and CNN in the US) hate his guts.
Though i dont agree with everything the Republicans endorse (Guns and Lack of public health care) Trump as a president is good and is a load better then Obama (the wanna be celebrity president) and a hell of a lot better then Hilary would of been.
I honestly cant understand how anyone in that country could vote for the democrats they are basically a worse version of our greens/labor party combined
With that said i dont know how anyone in Australia can vote for greens and some how people still do…
American politics
Democrats: Centre Right
Republicans: Centre Right to Far Right
More like. Then again, all depends where the centre is.
Democrats: Far Left
Republicans: Centre RightNot by any Western world standard they aren’t.
@petry: How can a party that is anti gun, pro health care, pro immigration, anti religious traditions, pro socialism be right?
I dont think you know what right and left means…
@Trying2SaveABuck: Not all the democrats party members are all those things.
One could argue the Liberal Party is all those things.
anti gun (Gun buy-back - Howard)
pro health care (Not repealing Medicare - Howard)
pro immigration (In the year ending 30 September 2019 there were 534,100 people immigrating to Australia arrivals increased by 3,100 people (0.6%) since the previous year - Morrison)
anti religious traditions (Religious freedom bill apparently dead in the water - Morrison)
pro socialism (Jobkeeper, Jobseeker, negative gearing, family benefit part b, private health insurance rebate, imputation credit etc - Morrison et al)@Trying2SaveABuck: the American democrats are not pro socialism, and that is a ludicrous suggestion.
@Trying2SaveABuck: I don't think you know what nuance means if you're lumping every Democratic candidate in the same tent. Every civilised country besides the United States is pro gun control, this is not a liberal issue. Pro-immigration isn't either, just as anti-immigration isn't necessarily a conservative one. 'Anti religious traditions?' Bullshit. Watch more Fox News.
As for pro-socialism, only a handful of candidates who've now dropped out of the primary identified as socialist. Biden's economic policy would be considered centrist, establishment, and globalist by any other administration.
Its true. Someone like Andrew Yang was very economically right winged but still ran for democrats. I would argue that the majority of democrats are very slighly centre right (unless you're Sanders which is a clear left)
Sanders is the exception. But even Sanders, compared to western standards is moderate left. What was he calling for? Universal health care? Extreme!!! We call it medicare.
Andrew Yang, the proponent of 'Yang Bucks' or UBI, the most Communist suggestion of the entire race, was very economically right wing?
@MementoMori: yes and Bernie sanders was shafted twice at extreme cost by the democratic leadership to make sure he wouldn't win. since he was the only candidate who could beat trump they are responsible for his next win.
@MementoMori: Yes its right wing because it is libertarian given that the policy would be a payment to everyone whether they were rich or poor. Inherently this would leave it to the individual on how they spent the money and he campaigned strongly for the free market.
I certainly wouldn’t be listening to anything trump says or does. What’s their lastest death count? 45,000
Which country's leader will you listen to?
While I’m known not to be a Liberal supporter, I am comfortable that our Government has done a good job so far. There has been strong cooperation amongst the opposition and respective state premiers. Sure we’ve gotten some things wrong (think ruby princess), but generally we’ve done well.
If we were to compare population and deaths we are statistically far better off than the USA. Adjusting for population we’d have 3200 deaths using the USA’s death to population ratio.
But I guess it’s easy to sit back and just ask questions such as yours without taking the time to think it through yourself.
That same government that went to Hawaii during the bush fire?
Jokesss you're right go liberal
Taiwan is doing pretty well. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan/
Jumped on it early, only 429 cases and 6 deaths.
They even warned the WHO on 31 December. Were ignored though because of the 'Taiwan doesn't exist' policy.
Update
In the 4 days since that comment another 7,000 have died in the USA.
In that time we heard that drinking sanitiser and uv light will fix the problem according to trump.
Note: Do not drink sanitiser.
Bloody left wing news.
Trump's doing a great job!2,400 dead a day. That's more than any other country.
Best president ever.
It's not just the federal government's problem. It's also a state issue.
For some reason, 33% of deaths are from New York alone.
New York is one of the world's most densely populated cities.
Couple that with the countries terrible access to health care, poor accessibility to testing kits and medical supplies and a president working with the right wing media who still refuse to take the virus seriously causing confusion for how people should be acting and you have the highest death rate in the world.
Personally I'm glad they've closed their borders. It will keep thousands of non Americans from getting sick. They should consider themselves lucky.
I was referring to the state, but that's still no reason to be less vigilant in social distancing.
Other states don't seem to have it anywhere near what they have.
“The president is right, testing is up to the states which will implement the tests and logistically coordinate the tests,” Cuomo said.
Spain, France, Italy, and Sweden have a higher death rate.
The US testing rate is the second only to Italy.
@ozhunter: 'While the United States has improved its testing numbers significantly, it still lags behind Germany and South Korea, for example, in terms of per capita testing…..With 581,232 tests conducted, according to the Italian health ministry, and a population of roughly 60.5 million, Italy's testing per capita is on par with South Korea — about 1 in every 104.'
was your source Rupert the glove puppet?
source 'FACT CHECK: Trump Claims U.S. Testing For Coronavirus Most Per Capita — It's Not'
when you're spreading a pandemic it pays to lie, it also pays to use the person who has been working on it since 2015 as a front man…
that's just the tip of the American planned demise of their great ally….the best for America is yet to come