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avtek on 09/04/2020 - 08:10 fasttech.com (1574 clicks)
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i ordered these a couple of days ago and just got shipping notification - i couldnt find a better deal for these but someone else might as i'm not a facemask expert- i added 1usd for australian post e-packet which is 6 to 20 days postage - otherwise its free postage -in the past when i have ordered from fasttech things usually arrive between 7-10 days

edit - after the comment below which is now deleted it seems like the indicative price when you do the currency conversion from usd to aud is wrong on the sale page - $27.64 USD = $44.36 AUD according to google currency converter

how do i change price in title I wonder?

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  • PCHammond on 09/04/2020 - 08:13
    +6

    No CE mark means that it's not certified to actually be an N95 mask. But it looks otherwise well made.

    Would be better than those cheap 3 ply masks, but who knows if it's really N95

    • avtek on 09/04/2020 - 08:16
      +2

      description says - These masks are produced by qualified manufacturers and meet the requirements stipulated in the protection standard: CE certified / FDA certified / GB2626-2006 (equivalent to US NIOSH N95) - but who knows….

      • Harold Halfprice on 09/04/2020 - 08:43
        +6

        KN95 masks are under the GB2626-2006 standard, which is the Chinese standard.

        N95 is a US standard.
        FFP2 is European
        P2 is Australian
        KN95 is Chinese

        All perform fairly similar, with the exception of FFP2, which is arguably better.

        https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1791500O/comparison-ffp2…

      • CookieJacker31 on 09/04/2020 - 08:46
        +2

        Genuine masks would list those qualifications. So too would fakes.

        • CitizenCane on 09/04/2020 - 09:24
          +2

          I've bought a lot of stuff from fasttech over the years and I'm pretty sure all of it has been genuine.
          A lot of products had online verification of their authenticity by the manufacturer.

      • PCHammond on 09/04/2020 - 08:50
        +2

        They can claim that they cure cancer, but my point is that they aren't certified.

        Either way, better than what 90% of people are wearing.

        • Click_It on 09/04/2020 - 08:56
          +3

          Wait these cure cancer? Sold!

    • PeppaCat on 09/04/2020 - 08:43
      +2

      KN95 is not N95. KN95 is China standard. The major difference is KN95 is focus on dust protection and can’t be used for medical purposes. But KN95 is ok to protect you from COVID-19. FDA has already approved KN95 for general use.

      You can also refer to 3M website to find the different.

      https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1791500O/comparison-ffp2…

    • hippyhippy on 09/04/2020 - 08:48

      apparently companies arent certifying their masks because it will delay the shipments by a few weeks and people are demanding the supply immediately.

    • AssociatedMONKEY King @ FastTech on 09/04/2020 - 23:55

      Wait a minute, I just realized that please do not buy black one, black mask filter principle may be activated carbon adsorption, this could not against the virus! Of course, these masks are better than none, and certainly better than cotton ones

  • Keyman0128 on 09/04/2020 - 08:13
    -1

    Is this Face Mask or Fake Mask?

    • b2dz on 09/04/2020 - 08:17

      Is this a Fame Mace or a Fask Make?

  • bonbon on 09/04/2020 - 08:24

    nvm wrong comment.

  • [Deactivated] on 09/04/2020 - 08:28
    +2

    This is a way better price than Kogan's.

    • gamemaster on 09/04/2020 - 08:32
      +11

      Kogan… Not really a standard to judge a bargain by.

  • gamemaster on 09/04/2020 - 08:31
    +3

    Plenty of these type of masks on AliExpress.
    Most are probably fake though, like this one imo.

    It’s disgraceful that companies are willing to label their products as KN95/N95/P2 when they aren’t certified or even worse use “questionable” certificates.

    To be honest I wouldn’t risk wasting $3.50 per mask on something that could be fake. If you like being ripped off you might as well spend that extra few bucks and get a certified 3M respirator.

  • garage sale on 09/04/2020 - 08:35
    +12

    it will stop droplets if people sneeze or cough near you …..

    if you want viral protection at the n95 certified level to protect against corona, then you will also need to wear googles as it can be absorbed via the eyes, and I see lots of people with masks, but many wearing googles at the same time.

    Its all a trade off and risk management between practicality (wear mask but not goggles).

    thing about wearing mask it stops you touching your face, so its more than just N95 certification if you are really into risk minimisation.

    I wear a mask as it sends a message to other about the times we are in, social distancing, etc to "beach partyers or rich people back from ski trips at parties who are corona positive"

    • Mokr on 09/04/2020 - 10:07

      half the people using masks, take them off to talk to people. And don't carefully remove them once in a safe place. Lots of people using mobile phones in public too.

      how hard is it to google up guidlines or use common sense.

    • ash2000 on 09/04/2020 - 08:46
      +17

      I certainly wouldn't be taking medical/health advice from a Murdoch (Sky "news") shock jock.

    • hippyhippy on 09/04/2020 - 08:46
      +6

      a substandard mask is still better than none… for joe blow … not for doctors and nurses though, they should use the real stuff for sure.

      • PCHammond on 09/04/2020 - 08:54
        +3

        This is the real answer. Better than none, especially better than the junk that 90% of people are wearing, or reusing masks.

        Masks in hospitals need to go through proper certification, which is why so many public donations get turned away. It's a waste that results in possible shortages, but they need to make sure that the masks they issue actually work.

    • jlogic on 09/04/2020 - 08:47
      +4

      They were for medical use. Higher standard there.

      For general public these will be fine as long as proper fit and handling procedures are adhered to.

      If buying please buy enough so you have one mask for every day of the week. This is so the virus dies while you rotate through the masks. Doesn’t survive more than a week on surfaces.

      • sceptical on 09/04/2020 - 10:17

        FYI "As for quarantining, there is no evidence putting a mask in a cupboard for 14 days would eradicate the presence of the virus." https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-04-09/face-masks-co…

        • jlogic on 10/04/2020 - 19:45
          +1

          Yes nothing proven other than some short studies. However the CDC guidelines for reuse include rotation to allow for the virus to die, although as again this hasn’t been vigorously tested. Given the shortages reuse is being done, unless you had a huge stash.

    • ickyboo on 09/04/2020 - 08:48
      +4

      Have you got a better source? I refuse to read or look at anything from Murdoch media since they are the ones spreading fake news like how they blamed arsonists for Au bushfires

      Sky News is Au version of Fox News!

      • damion on 09/04/2020 - 08:55
        +1

        Is it the same case that was reported on ABC?
        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/coronavirus-chinese-p…

        • Ducky555 on 09/04/2020 - 08:57
          +5

          "The official stressed that not all Chinese products were considered faulty, and other imports of PPE from China were still passing Australian regulations."

          Nice fear mongering, perfect for the morons that can't read more than 2 paragraph into an article.

          • CookieJacker31 on 09/04/2020 - 09:47
            +1

            @Ducky555: I doubt they are checking packages of this size. It wouldn't worth the lab costs of testing them. They would be targeting the major shipments, it is the major shipments (10's of thousands or 100's of thousands at a time) that will be most likely to genuine (major suppliers and they know they will get tested).

        • ickyboo on 09/04/2020 - 09:12
          +1

          Ta!

      • bargaino on 09/04/2020 - 09:47
        +1

        The actual news section of Sky News is not so bad, as part of a healthy news diet (ie other sources too!)

        The crap like this comes from their "opinion columns" and shock jocks - fools like Bolt and Murray.
        Similar with Fox: don't worry as much if people read Foxes news website. It is when they start watching Hannity that you need to do an intervention.

    • Black Hole on 09/04/2020 - 08:57
      +6

      What a joke, you get your news from skynews?

      • CitizenCane on 09/04/2020 - 12:49
        +1

        I was tempted to watch one of their tabloid news vids on youtube recently. and ever since then 2/3rds of my corona virus news feed has been bloody sky news videos. Dunno if youtube are getting paid by sky for that, or if their algorithms are just terrible, but it's annoying to even have to see the headlines.

    • PeppaCat on 09/04/2020 - 09:01
      +5

      Use KN95 for medical purpose? No. It's different standard.
      Use it for general purpose and protect from virus? Yes.

      FDA has already approved KN95. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/health/coronavirus-n95-kn…

  • ash2000 on 09/04/2020 - 08:39
    +1

    AUD$47.02 after it's converted to AUD via PayPal with also includes a 2.5% conversion fee.

    The website's AUD approximation obviously uses an old AUD X rate.

    OP can you check your paypal email receipt.

    • avtek on 09/04/2020 - 08:45
      +2

      good idea ash - got this off my paypal receipt - bearing in mind i added the extra usd for aust post e packet

      "Exchange rate
      $49.88 AUD = $28.64 USD
      1 AUD = 0.5741 USD"

      • ash2000 on 09/04/2020 - 08:49
        +2

        Yeah, so AUD$47 with free shipping.

        Paypal 1 AUD = 0.58784 USD plus another 2.5% conversion.

  • KOBH on 09/04/2020 - 08:44

    I saw the 2-pack KN95 similar to these at Amazon AU a couple months ago cost $20 and they were sold out within 3 days.

  • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 08:59
    +5

    The Deputy Chief Medical Officer for Australia has strengthened the directive for the public NOT TO WEAR MEDICAL MASKS! He said those masks (N95 etc) are RESERVED for use by front line medical workers.
    (From televised speech on 5/4/20)
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-04/coronavirus-covid-19-…

    • davescott on 09/04/2020 - 09:09
      +3

      Couldn't agree more. You definitely need to wear masks, but surgical/N95 ones should be reserved for medical workers.

      Just wear whatever to cover your mouths and noses to protect OTHERS from yourselves, because you might be infected without symptoms.

    • avtek on 09/04/2020 - 09:09
      +4

      I cant imagine our hospitals are ordering supplies from fasttech….

    • PeppaCat on 09/04/2020 - 09:14
      +5

      KN95 is not medical masks!

      • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 09:19

        Yes. These are not medical grade masks. As pointed out earlier. But some here are recommending wearing N95 masks.
        The directive does not cover all masks, just ones better used in medical treatment of people with covid19.

        • PeppaCat on 09/04/2020 - 09:30
          +1

          KN95 is different with N95.
          In some countries, due to they don't have enough N95, so they gave KN95 to doctors to protect them as KN95 has the same protect level except KN95 can't be used in surgical procedures, or in any area where there is a risk of blood or body fluid splash.

      • CookieJacker31 on 09/04/2020 - 09:53

        especially ones with great big holes in them like these.

    • Bargain80 on 09/04/2020 - 09:50
      +2

      half of the corona virus cases are asymptomatic.
      That's why most of Asian countries tell their citizens to wear mask when going out.
      Even US started telling their citizens to wear cloth mask.

      Mask reduce getting infected little bit but also greatly reduce infecting other if you're not aware carrying the virus.

      One of the reason our government don't want us to wear mask is because they think we're stupid to wear mask correctly.

      • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 09:52

        Links to those stats?

          • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 09:56
            -2

            @Bargain80: Not lazy - I've already done searches which did not support your claims.

            First link is supposition by Trump advisor on situation is USA. Even then 50% is upper limit of that estimate. USA hasn't been testing enough to know!

            Second is from overseas too. Those figures go as low as 4% with 18% on Diamond Princess. Low sample size (except fit Diamond Princess) makes figures useless. Some even add a note that "Numbers quoted not verifiable".

            Useless for Australian conditions. We just don't have the necessary testing & data.

            • Bargain80 on 09/04/2020 - 10:16
              +2

              @INFIDEL: here's a fact. virus doesn't recognise nation or race.
              it doesn't matter if the strat is based on a foreign country, it is the same virus.

              The number now is varies a lot because this is still new virus and there aren't a lot of research yet.
              Even WHO (in the second link) suggest it can be as high as 80% (including mild symptom).

              doesn't matter if it's 50% or 40% or 30%, it's still a high number.
              Wearing mask (cloth mask if you don't want impact supply for doctor) can protect you and everyone around you.

              • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 10:28
                -5

                @Bargain80: here's a fact.
                Virus transmission rates vary a lot between counties / cultures. Even the second link you posted showed that wide variation.

                virus doesn't recognise nation or race
                But how we live & interact is different between different nation or race!
                In the USA, there are reported differences by "race" in some communities - But mainly due to poverty, living close together in decrepit housing, poor health & lack of medical services for the poor. (Planet America last night)

                There are so many variables (confounds) to be able to apply data from one country to another.

                People's behaviours, thinking & beliefs, type of government, government policy towards the virus, closeness of people to each other, type of housing, underlying health issues & demographics of the communities, weather, etc play a vital role in the rate of transmission.

                So figures for countries very different to Australia are not relevant here.

                This has been discussed in other Deals.

                Your response sounds like fear rather than facts.

                Just stay at home where possible, social distance, wash your hands etc - as we are repeatedly told to do. Then masks aren't a necessity.

                • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 12:16

                  @INFIDEL: Strange people are so negative about the proven effect of environmental factors on the transmission of viruses.

                  There is research into transmission rates in respiratory viruses similar to this.

                  eg Temperature & Humidity found to affect transmission in respiratory virus
                  Transmission data on this virus mainly comes from cold Northern Hemisphere countries. That is unlike most of Australia now!

                  Transmission of viruses via airborne routes may be affected by ambient humidity, which affects not only the virus’ stability but also respiratory droplet size, as water content evaporates. In turn, droplet size influences whether the particle will quickly settle to the ground or remain airborne long enough to be inhaled into the respiratory tract of a susceptible host.

                  With rising Relative Humidity & temperature, experiments found the virus was less likely to be transmitted.
                  With very cold weather (5C), there tends to be more mucous build up in the nasal area - leading to a higher likelihood of uptake of the virus.

                  So transmission rate of respiratory viruses in general, varies with environmental factors.

                  There are so many environmental
                  differences between countries & cultures! So it would be very unwise to simply apply overseas experience on transmission rate to Australia. Time will tell.

                  In my uni degree in mathematical modeling & use in prediction, we were repeatedly taught not to go beyond the Data. In virology, that means not apply observations & predictions from a very different environment to ours.

                • Bargain80 on 09/04/2020 - 14:17
                  +1

                  @INFIDEL: this is not about fear.
                  it's about protecting yourself and others.
                  It doesn't matter what the number is, the fact is, it exist.

                  You never know if you're infectious or not. Doesn't matter what the weather is, there is still a chance of infecting somebody.

                  Simple act like wearing cloth mask combined with social distancing will reduce or eliminate the case and reduce the lockdown period.

                  • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 14:34

                    @Bargain80: I never said not to wear a mask - just that the Government says not to wear medical grade masks. Those masks are unnecessary for the public to use.

                    Otherwise mask wearing is up to the individual.

                    I would wear a non medical one if in constant close contact with the public in my work. Just to be safe. In that case the employer should provide the PPE.

                    If not involved in essential activities, stay home & abide by the current rules. That should not require the use of masks.

                    Research on similar viruses show transmission is affected by weather - dropping to 0 with RH above 80% with that respiratory virus.
                    And contamination is easier with increased mucus in the nasal cavity - again more likely in cold weather.
                    With time we will better understand transmission factors with this virus.

                    But drawing predictions from other countries experiences or outcome of mask wearing here is pointless. Our conditions are different, even though the virus is the same.

                    Mask wearers I've talked with wore them out of fear, incorrect information, or cultural convention.

                    It's an interest of mine since being in Asia during the 2008 H1N1 pandemic. Social Psychology is my other field.
                    People then were acting irrationally due to fear, attacking foreigners believing we all had the virus. Of course they justified their actions as completely rational.
                    Fear is quite normal reaction in a crisis.

                    • Bargain80 on 09/04/2020 - 14:41

                      @INFIDEL: then what are debating?
                      I never said we should wear medical grade masks.

                      my point is if government wants to drive the curve down faster, they should urge people to wear cloth mask when going out.
                      Any medical grade masks (N95 or surgical mask) should be banned for sale in Australia and should be reserved for medical workers.

                      • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 14:53

                        @Bargain80: The health experts advising the Government don't seem to agree. The Deputy Chief Medical Officer considers cloth masks of no use. (Press conference 5/4) So is not part of Australia's strategy.

                        The CDC in USA also doesn't agree.

                        The push to now wear masks in the USA is likely in response to people already are wearing them out of desperation for something. That is fear. I'd be frightened too!

                        I've observed people's behaviour in major disasters (eg 2008 Sichuan earthquake in China). Logic or doing things for the common good is rare. It's more self & family preservation out of fear.

                        We only disagree about the need or effectiveness of basic face masks.

                        I take my advice from Government & experts, backed up by research papers.
                        Having research degrees in mathematical modeling & conducting psychological research into cross cultural group behaviours - I don't know better than those informed experts. It's always best to know the limits to our competence. And this is beyond mine. So I rely on the advice of those who should know.

                        Its up to people to decide to wear those non medical grade masks - correctly.

                        I prefer to keep my hands away from my face. When out, I keep my hands on my pockets as a habit. I've been practicing correct hygiene etc since the last pandemic in 2008.

              • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 13:33

                @Bargain80:

                virus doesn't recognise nation or race

                In Milwaukee, African Americans represent 26% of the population, But have experienced 73% of the deaths.

                Of course the virus is not selective, it's the environmental, health & social conditions that skew that terrible result. And masks etc are an expensive luxury of life for the poor. BBC World News

                Covid-19 is ravaging black communities in Milwaukee

                COVID-19’s Racial Death Gap Was Predictable

                Similarly the virus survives longer on different surfaces, which will affect rate of transmission. Masks won't stop picking up the virus from surfaces.

                Factors other than just the virus are crucial in the rate of spread & death rate.

      • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 09:54
        +1

        CDC in USA give same recommendation

        It is quite normal in crowded countries / cities in Asia for people to wear masks. They don't need their governments to tell them. In Japan, 25M suffer from hay fever - so wear masks at this time of year. Others wear masks as they don't want their cold etc from spreading - the virus struck over the Northern Winter.

      • Mokr on 09/04/2020 - 10:08

        See how this mask has a exhaust value, it means if infected you still will shoot out corona particles.

      • garage sale on 10/04/2020 - 08:01

        if the gov wanted people to wear masks, there would be the issue of people expecting the govt to supply as people would say they can’t afford them …..like people that expected govt to pay to fly them back from holidays as part of evacuation.

        also masks in public are visually confronting about the situation, not sure the govt wants a situation where people are told “wear a mask as we can’t keep you safe, you are on your own”

        i used to travel on train to work and the coughing, sneezing in winter was a concern but you’d feel dumb wearing a mask, this might change that culture as it will a while before we get a vaccine and it will stick around and not be eradicated like smallpox, but at least once 60% of the population have had covid19 then the chances of getting it is reduced and if you do there would be an icu bed if needed.

        i thought it dumb in this day an age that people die of measles, easily prevented with vaccine but it still happens.

        and the anti-vaxers won’t want covid19 vaccine incase it makes them autistic.

        • fusion17 on 10/04/2020 - 10:16

          Good points

          Anti vaxers were saying this is a big pharma/govt conspiracy to make them all vaccinate, and they're so scared.

          The mask thing may change once people see other western countries wearing it like the US.

          And yes they'd want another payment subsidy to buy masks (but buy booze instead lol)

    • DingoBilly on 09/04/2020 - 10:01

      Wanted to come post this - people from general public shouldn't be worrying about masks. Save it for the people who actually need it.

      • fusion17 on 09/04/2020 - 10:15
        +2

        Well you came here just to post something incorrect.

        Yes save the medical grade ones, but use anything else.

  • KOBH on 09/04/2020 - 09:01
    -4

    Even the female cashiers at Tong Li supermarket are wearing both surgical mask and face shield to protect themselves against Coronavirus.

    A bit exaggerated.

    • hippyhippy on 09/04/2020 - 09:06
      +3

      Lol … Chinese people being extra careful around other Chinese people? …. They know what's up. Good on them i say. And good on the company for providing it for their workers.

      • ragerma on 09/04/2020 - 09:14
        +3

        Yeah, there has been horror stories circulating Chinese social networks since early January. If you read all the horror stories for the past 3 months, you will do the same thing as they do. I'm surprised to see so many aussies are still not wearing face masks.

    • PeppaCat on 09/04/2020 - 09:09
      +6

      You don't understand how easily this virus can spread. In China, a guy got infected just because he had a 15s face to face talk with the infected cashier. I think the funny thing is AU goverment still don't allow doctors and nurses to wear mask to protect themselves if they are not working in fever clinic. Look at [how china protect doctors and nurses(https://n.sinaimg.cn/spider2020221/110/w580h330/20200221/e04…)

      • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 10:15

        Unlikely that transmission could be proven. That's the problem - often only anecdotal proof.
        Link to this case?

          • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 11:31

            @PeppaCat: So a China News Service report of a video surveillance of a 15s blessing in a confined booth is the only proof - as no other known explanation could be found…

            participated in a blessing at the appointment on January 19) There was a short (about 15 seconds) close cohabitation in the same booth, and neither of them wore a mask.
            But that's a Google translation.
            The translated article seems to suggest different places the transmission took place - buying food or a blessing. That may simply be a mistranslation!

            As has been noted in research into transmission - reports from China cant be verified.

            • PeppaCat on 09/04/2020 - 11:39

              @INFIDEL: That's the thing, China shared lots of information. But western countries don't trust these information. Then,we saw what's happening in these countries now…
              I don't want to discuss political on ozbargain, but, western countries should learn from China…

              • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 11:41

                @PeppaCat: Some of the Australian modelling & strategies were based on the experience in China. But it needs to be verifiable, not just unfounded speculation.

                But the culture, population densities, seasons, etc are very different to Australia.

              • INFIDEL on 09/04/2020 - 12:59

                @PeppaCat: Unfortunately China has a past history of misinformation, mainly to subdue local concerns & show they are in control. So data & reports are suspect, unless verified.

                I was near the epicenter of the Sichuan earthquake in 2008. That was just before the Beijing Olympics, so the Internet was open & unfiltered.

                The Chinese Government through their media claimed only 4 deaths. With other Foreigners we viewed reports & photos on the BBC site from villages destroyed, bodies…

                So we knew the information given by the Government in the disaster was incorrect. Locals had immediately told us not to trust the Government information. The death toll was estimated at 80,000!

                A week after the earthquake, a text message circulated saying there would be another earthquake that day. Local PhD students I was with were very anxious.
                I tried to reassure them earthquakes don't work like an alarm clock. They'd point to their screens saying I didn't know, their Government does - their mobile showed it was to happen! It didn't happen.

                As the true story could not be controlled, I saw the Government's approach change to a pure PR campaign (eg ads of a small girl thanking the soldiers).

                So it is reasonable to question the validity of reports from China. WHO was allowed in, so data could then be independently verified.

                But China severely criticised & removed the Doctor who told them the new virus was a major health risk…

                western countries should learn from China…
                It's a pity data from China is suspect. But China has taught us not to trust it. We will now see what happens the lock down has been lifted. And Western observers & researchers can verify the information.

    • slowmo on 09/04/2020 - 09:31
      +7

      A bit exaggerated.

      This is the same sort of nonsense attitude that people adopted that landed all of us into this lock down in the first place.

      if EVERYONE had taken the physical distancing seriously from the get go, we wouldn't have needed things like lock downs forced upon us.

      People don't want to die, they don't want their loved ones to die, that's why they wear masks. Is that so hard to comprehend?

  • aussman on 09/04/2020 - 09:14
    +1

    looks to be the same as these which do have ce and fda but who knows really?
    https://www.dhgate.com/product/huixin-kn95-mask-respirator-v…

  • edgar28 on 09/04/2020 - 09:25
    +1

    this version is the easy breathe type - "selfish" version. i.e. you blow out the virus the others. The recommended N95/ kN95 is those fully covered and hard to breathe.

    • bargaino on 09/04/2020 - 09:50

      Better than nothing since even hospitals cannot get enough of the proper ones.
      And it still helps others: if I don't get the virus I don't spread it, and it still does a lot to stop cough droplets. Better than a tissue or elbow.

      • edgar28 on 09/04/2020 - 20:21

        Nope. Healthy people breathe and filtered the virus by the mask, when you blow out carbon dioxide, it pushes the filtered virus to others. Hence it being called the "selfish" mask

        • bargaino on 10/04/2020 - 10:07

          reality is not so black and white

    • Mokr on 09/04/2020 - 10:09

      tape the valve up.

    • pinchies on 10/04/2020 - 00:06

      I agree it is "selfish" - but if people want to pay for my masks, I'm happy to wear the ones without valves. I'm not interested in paying for others masks directly (I'm already a taxpayer), so I don't think I get much right to ask those that buy their own PPE to go valveless.

  • Bargainlife on 09/04/2020 - 09:30

    pick the aus expedited shipping in the shipping options it gets here in around a week and you get a parcel post tracking number when it gets here

    i use fasttech quite a lot for ecig stuff been a customer for many many years

  • GRP on 09/04/2020 - 09:40
    +1

    Questionable quality but better than nothing.

    I prefer the type with the insert filters as the ones in this thread are essentially one use throw aways (given the limited time most of us will wear a mask it effectively becomes a multi use mask).

    If medical personnel should wear a mask why shouldn't the general public? It simply makes no sense to me unless the intention is to stop the public buying masks and preserve the stock for medical personnel who without question must have them.

    • CookieJacker31 on 09/04/2020 - 10:08
      +1

      "It simply makes no sense to me unless the intention is to stop the public buying masks and preserve the stock for medical personnel who without question must have them."

      three reasons.

      as you said there are major shortages. Wasting them on people unlikely to get sick when the people that are most likely to get sick are running out is a poor use of resources.

      the general public are terrible at using them properly rendering them effectiveness heavily diminished.
      * they reuse their mask over and over.
      * don't fit them properly
      * scratch their faces while wearing them
      * take them off to blow their noses, then fail to sanitize their hands, arms, face, bin the mask and get a new one.
      * handle the outsides where all the virus land
      * lay them down on surfaces they touch.
      * how many hipster beards were shaved off to properly use a mask?

      proper medical n95 masks are not easy to breathe through for many people, they get hot and stuffy, some people struggle with their breathing. which results in a lot of see point 2.

      • Mokr on 09/04/2020 - 10:12
        +3

        the general public are terrible at using them properly rendering them effectiveness heavily diminished.

        Because the general public hasn't been instructed on how to use them.

        A simple 2 min youtube video would be enough to explain.

        • PCHammond on 09/04/2020 - 10:37

          The general public don't listen even if you make watching a video compulsory.

          Just look at all the people still congregating, or not social distancing at the shops, etc.

          Honestly I've been trained to use masks properly and use dozens every week, yet I sometimes still break the rules. I guarantee you that my nose won't be itchy, but as soon as I put a mask on there will be an incredible itch.

  • KOBH on 09/04/2020 - 09:55
    +1

    IMO, wear a surgical mask is sufficient as long as you wash your hands often and avoid touching your eyes or rubbing your nose.

  • bargaingod123 on 09/04/2020 - 09:59

    My mother bought too many expensive 3M 8210Plus N95 masks and I still haven't found a way to sell them at cost.

    • JJlikes2eat on 09/04/2020 - 10:03

      How much were they?

      • bargaingod123 on 09/04/2020 - 10:07

        She bought 80 at $9.5 each I believe but with the current usage which I only go out for shopping once or twice a week, I can't even use half of them to pass the 6 months lockdown.

    • Jikx on 09/04/2020 - 10:08
      +1

      Call your local doctor / hospital, show them receipt and sell it to them at cost.

      • CookieJacker31 on 09/04/2020 - 10:11
        +1

        donate them to medicos

        give them to friends

      • bargaingod123 on 09/04/2020 - 10:16

        They are not designed for medical use

        Commercial Buildings, Construction, Design & Construction, Food Processing, Food Safety, General Manufacturing, Heavy Infrastructure, Mining, Oil & Gas, Transportation

    • pegasusx on 09/04/2020 - 12:33

      Can you sell via eBay/Gumtree? They say it was banned but I still see tons of ads and suggestions for N95 masks.

      • bargaingod123 on 09/04/2020 - 12:37

        I'll try, did it once but it disappeared after a day.

  • jimojr on 09/04/2020 - 10:43
    +1

    Thanks OP, bought a 10-pack white one for $31.

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