The lowest price of all time. Dont forget cashback.
A classic piece, BB phones are no longer made.
Update: still made in India https://www.optiemus.com/blackberry.html
CamelCamelCamel.
Lite, to be precise.
They're pretty equal.
The overpriced Nokia 6.1 has a slightly better processor and camera. The screens and everything else are roughly identical. The biggest difference is the form-factor. However, if this is more expensive than the 6.1 than its not as good value. And there are far better devices to buy which offer better value. But none of them have a physical keyboard, so this thing has carved it's own niche.
Actually, the BlackBerry 2 LE has a better processor. It has a better GPU and despite the clocks, it has better cores.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1egQ3ZTn2u1jhQbVevp-D…
@HaveANiceDay: True, I misread the Nokia 6.1 as having the QSD 660.
I'm not sure if that sheet is yours, but I can post you my one that I've collected. It's missing the chipsets released in the last 9 months, but overall, its pretty comprehensive. WARNING LONG POST, if you hit Read more button.
Here's an update to my previous performance list (for those interested).
Position - Chipset Name….. CPU single-core / CPU multi-thread / GPU performance
(post-2011)
99 - XXXXX……………………….. ???? / ???? / ????
86 - XXXXX……………………….. ???? / ???? / ????
85 - Tegra 3…………………….… 300 / 1,100 / 7,000
84 - Exynos 4412………………. 400 / 1,100 / 6,000
83 - QSD 400…………………….. 500 / 1,600 / 11,000 (Krait-200 S4 Pro)
82 - QSD 600…………………….. 600 / 2,000 / 12,000
81 - Apple A6 (?)……………….. 700 / 1,300 / 8,000
79 - Helio P20……………………. 800 / 3,400 / 11,000
78 - Helio P22……………………. 800 / 3,500 / 11,000
77 - QSD 429……………………… 800 / 3,600 / 11,000
76 - QSD 439…………………..…. 800 / 3,700 / 11,000
75 - QSD 450……………………… 800 / 3,700 / 12,000
74 - Helio P23………………….… 800 / 3,800 / 12,000
73 - Helio P25…………………..… 800 / 3,800 / 14,000
72 - QSD 625……………………… 800 / 3,900 / 13,000
71 - Helio P30…………………..… 900 / 3,900 / 15,000
70 - QSD 626…………………….… 900 / 4,200 / 14,000
69 - Helio P35…………………….. 900 / 3,900 / 17,000
68 - QSD 630…………………….… 900 / 4,300 / 15,000
66- Exynos 5420……………….… 900 / 2,700 / 13,000
65 - Exynos 5430………………… 900 / 2,900 / 14,000
64 - QSD 800……………………. 1,000 / 2,800 / 13,000
63 - RK 3288………………….… 1,100 / 2,800 / 15,000
62 - QSD 801……………………. 1,100 / 3,000 / 15,000
61 - Tegra 4……………………… 1,100 / 2,900 / 17,000
60 - QSD 808 (?)………………. 1,300 / 3,600 / 14,000 (unsustainable thermals)
59 - QSD 810 (?)………………. 1,300 / 4,500 / 19,000 (unsustainable thermals)
58 - QSD 805………………..….. 1,200 / 3,400 / 18,000
57 - QSD 632……………………. 1,200 / 4,400 / 16,000
55 - Apple A7 (?)…………….… 1,500 / 2,900 / 12,000
54 - Exynos 5433……………… 1,200 / 4,200 / 16,000
53 - Tegra K1-32bit (?)…….… 1,200 / 4,000 / 19,000 (unsustainable thermals)
52 - QSD 650……………………. 1,400 / 3,100 / 12,000
51 - Helio X20………………….. 1,500 / 4,500 / 10,000
50 - Apple A8 (?)………………. 1,600 / 3,100 / 14,000
48 - Tegra K1-Denver (?)……. 1,900 / 4,100 / 19,000 (unsustainable thermals)
47 - RK 3399 (?)……………….. 1,400 / 3,700 / 11,000
46 - QSD 652……………………. 1,400 / 4,600 / 12,000
45 - QSD 653……………………. 1,400 / 4,700 / 13,000
44 - Exynos 7420………………. 1,300 / 4,500 / 18,000
43 - Tegra X1 (?)……………….. 1,400 / 4,700 / 24,000 (unsustainable thermals)
42 - Helio X23…………………… 1,600 / 4,500 / 11,000
41 - Helio X25…………………… 1,700 / 4,500 / 11,000
40 - Helio X27…………………… 1,700 / 4,600 / 12,000
39 - Exynos 7885………………. 1,500 / 4,500 / 15,000
37 - QSD 636……………………… 1,400 / 5,000 / 17,000
36 - Kirin 710…………………….. 1,600 / 5,400 / 16,000
35 - QSD 665…………………….. 1,600 / 5,300 / 17,000
34 - QSD 670……………………… 1,700 / 5,300 / 18,000
33 - QSD 660……………………… 1,600 / 5,700 / 18,000
32 - QSD 820……………………… 1,700 / 4,300 / 20,000 (underclocked)
30 - Kirin 950……………………… 1,700 / 5,200 / 16,000
29 - Helio P60…………………….. 1,500 / 5,700 / 18,000
28 - Kirin 955……………………… 1,700 / 5,300 / 17,000
27 - Helio P70…………………..… 1,600 / 5,900 / 18,000
26 - Helio X30………………….…. 2,000 / 5,600 / 15,000
25 - QSD 675…………………….… 1,900 / 5,800 / 19,000
24 - QSD 710…………………….… 2,000 / 5,700 / 20,000
23 - QSD 712………………………. 2,000 / 5,800 / 21,000
22 - QSD 821………………………. 2,100 / 4,500 / 23,000 (overclocked)
21 - Apple A9 (?)…………………. 2,300 / 4,700 / 17,000
19 - QSD 730………………………. 2,000 / 5,800 / 21,000
18 - Exynos 8890…………………. 1,900 / 6,000 / 19,000
17 - Kirin 960…………………….…. 1,900 / 6,400 / 18,000
16 - Helio P90……………………… 1,900 / 6,000 / 20,000
15 - Kirin 810……………………….. 2,200 / 6,700 / 22,000
13 - Exynos 8895…………………. 2,100 / 6,800 / 24,000
12 - Kirin 970……………………….. 2,000 / 6,900 / 24,000
11 - QSD 835……………………….. 2,100 / 7,000 / 28,000
10 - Exynos 9810…………………. 3,600 / 8,800 / 30,000 (unsustainable thermals)
9 - Exynos 9820………………….… 4,500 / 9,900 / 32,000 (unsustainable thermals)
7 - Apple A10 (?)…………………… 3,400 / 6,300 / 24,000
6 - QSD 845………………………..… 2,500 / 8,900 / 34,000
5 - Kirin 980………………………… 3,200 / 10,000 / 31,000
4 - QSD 855………………………… 3,500 / 12,000 / 38,000
2 - Apple A11 (?)………………….. 4,100 / 10,000 / 28,000
1 - Apple A12 (?)………………..… 4,800 / 12,000 / 32,000
(pre-2020)
*A balanced SoC is most desired, with importance given to IPC, then Total CPU, and finally Graphical Powress
*thermals and battery life taken into account when positioning
*scores are based on averages, and rounded up/down, due to variance of handsets
*some scores are not properly available (?), but an estimate is provided.
PS: may update in future to include more SoC's (eg AMLogic, Allwinner, iPad SoC's, and obscure Snapdragon SoC's like the dreaded QSD 617). Please feel free to ask for any specific SoC's you are interested in seeing listed. Cheers!
@Kangal: Hello, it isn't mine. I haven't been looking into phones for the past 6 months or so. That's a pretty comprehensive list I see.
Really? What type of physical qwerty keyboard does the 6.1 offer to compete?
I'm sure it's a personal preference, but I'd see the physical qwerty keyboard as additional mechanical parts that could break. If it's a smartphone, I'd much rather take an on-screen keyboard, which in addition to being something that wouldn't break, is also configurable enough for me to choose different layouts or languages.
I'd much rather take an on-screen keyboard, which in addition to being something that wouldn't break
Yep. Until you drop your phone.
Yep. Until you drop your phone.
That would be meaningful if this phone didn't have a screen.
To reiterate my point, this phone has two things (a screen and a physical keypad) that could possibly break when it's dropped, but another phone might just have one (screen).
You may be a fan of 'ol blackberry, but that shouldn't stop you from seeing something this simple.
@CocaKoala: How do you think phones functioned in the pre-Smartphone era? They had buttons, and they simply worked.
@nomadspartan: I did not say the buttons don't work, but I'm sure that you've seen or at least heard of these buttons not working, say, in the pre-Smartphone era?! Like all things, buttons break. And it's just another thing that could break in this case.
I'd have one thing that could break instead of two things that could break independently. I'm not sure how much more clearer could I be.
I have a q10, passport, keyone, key2LE and soon to be a key2.
None have had a single keyboard error.
My blackberry bold 9000, storm, nokia e62 and e71 also have no keyboard errors.
I dont think ive ever had a membrane keyboard fail on a PC either….
Trust me, membrane style keyboards are something we have close to mastered.
(Not on the LE) but being able to use the keyboard like a touchpad is also very useful for accurate clicking, also, if, like me, 90% of yout phone use involves a keyboard, it saves screen realestate. Physical kb + 4.5" screen, is more reading-room, than 6+" with an OSK.
I proved that recently when my mate with a samsung a50 didnt believe me, so we compared.
Physical kb + 4.5" screen, is more reading-room, than 6+" with an OSK.
Not entirely true as software keypads are configurable (again - this is something I said in my original post), and could be configured to be as small or big as you'd like.
Also, you can't swipe type on a physical keypad, which is FAR easier than pressing individual keys.
You also have forgotten to address the fact that software keypads could be configured into different layouts, or even languages.
@CocaKoala: Swipe? Yes you can, what are you on about?
Blackberry keyone keytwo and passport support swipe, as well as flick-to-complete. No need to press the keys unless you want to.
And there's a size limit on an osk where accuracy drops.
If you often type non dictionary words (i work in IT and often type code) a pkb is bliss.
As for different languages and such, an osk is still an option, its still android.
Damn… once upon a time BB's were the ultimate cool business phone to have…
Still a good conversation starter at work.
Ok doomer.
It may be a pricing error as considering if you click on the Atomic Red then the price becomes $716.85 which is also sold by Amnazon AU. Same phone really just a different colour.
I'm thinking the correct price is some thing over $700.
Not price error. Once all colours were $399 a few months back.
OK then the Atomic Red colour current price is a complete and utter total ripoff.
maybe not, i remember one month ago, jb did the same thing, one colour is 3XX, and another is 7XX.
(profanity) I want this.
I miss my Bold 9900 so much, one of the best phones I ever had. The feel and size of it all, perfect. I still have the BlackBerry Classic too which does most of what I want, but it's locked to Vodafone and unlocking it was like 80 odd bucks :'(
I don't need this, I don't need this, I don't need this.
Found a Bold 9900 in the street of Manchester, all wet back in 2012. Put it in rice, and after a week came back to live. Great phone. Loved it.
I'm now in the same position like you, I don't need this, BUT looks so classy!
The phone probably fell out of some one's pocket by accident. That doesn't change the ownership of it.
Well i guess you did not know that still you did not legally own it?. Just because you found it doesn't mean that you have legal ownage of it. I'm afraid you actually committed theft by not reporting it to the police and then if no one claims if after a set amount of days then you can keep it. It belonged to some body else.
Well you're now legally required to report it; off ya go, on ya horse.
Put it in rice, and after a week came back to live. Great phone. Loved it.
Im curious. What did you do with the rice?
Nothing. Its a myth.
Basically, there was a belief that because rice absorbs water, it would help things dry (like a dessicant).
Nope.
Put some rice on the bench, and tell me how many years it takes to be ready to eat; rice never goes soft (absorbs water) from the air; its why we cook/boil it.
If you're in a scenario where you need to do "the rice trick" the correct affordable way to do it, is using a dessicant.
Buy one of those 'damp rid' containers, open the seal, and put the phone on top of it.
Wrap the whole lot in a plastic bag and seal it as best you can.
Bonus if it can get partial sunlight (dont wanna damage the phone screen with a week of direct sun)
This will pull moisture from the air, and anything else within the bag.
Rice doesnt work; but dessicants in general sure do.
I personally bought a 1kg tub of damp-rid; put a scoop (1 cup or 2) directly into a plastic bag, put the phone on a little stand to keep the 'dust' out, and knot the bag.
Works perfectly.
My bold 9000 still an all time fav..so much so I still have it in its box hehe
Made in India is a good thing?
That models not; I think he was just saying that it's still a licenced product somewhere.
But yes, of all the things I believe the indian public would care about doing right, I'd expect phones to be one.
Yeah so u can afford.
Priced at $336.15 for me.
Checked incognito, still the same.
You might just need a really good input/keyboard app
I would definitely buy if the camera was any good - if it was comparable to Galaxy s8
You have to hold the Alt key to input numbers
Or double tap alt to turn on numlock.
As much as I love BlackBerry phones (had a BB Torch, z10 and Passport) I'm afraid this is the end of the road for BlackBerry devices. This phone might be supported for another 2 years or so, take this into consideration if you are thinking of buying a EOL product.
I bet that most people who are arguing how good this phone is will actually not buy it because they already know that blackberry phones are a relic of the past, but are not going to acknowledge it publicly.
Looks interesting, I guess having a physical keyboard can be very practical for some.
But nowhere near enough.
Its funny; I think its familiarity.
Everyone (probably 25+ people, of various age groups,without exception) who i have handed my phone to, has been instantly won-over by the pkb.
Their failing was lack of advertising, and in-store marketing.
I'm only one guy; and I could have convinced a genuine 25+ people to have gone blackberry, but they already own a phone!
If it was in store, to try before deciding, id wager there would be a LOT more users.
Oh well, mistakes were made.
Poor TCL.
Hopefully whoever licences the BB brand next will be smarter. Or, perhaps they'll release their own phone again next?
John Chen was commenting he still saw a niche market.
For those commented on the phone's spec, screen being sub-par. Really, there are people out there that use the phone as a phone, instant message, browsing, email, and occasional snap shots. Blackberry Bold 9900/Q10 (9000's trackball was not so great) would have been perfect, excellent batter life and compact size.
I'd get this for kicks but when there are snapdragon 675 and 710 phones around that are better in every way for less money I just can't bring myself to get this relic. Needs to be $250.
It seems LE means Light Edition, not Luxury/Limited Edition