[QLD] 15kW Solar System Premium Package $9,750 Installed within 80km of Brisbane @ GIO Tech Electrical

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[QLD] 15kW Solar System Premium Package $9,750 Installed within 80km of Brisbane @ GIO Tech Electrical

CrocDundee on 22/01/2020 - 15:37 giotech.com.au (413 clicks)
Last edited 22/01/2020 - 16:36 by 2 other users

Hi guys - first and foremost I am not associated with this company at all and receive no perks for advertising this offer. Secondly - this package is quoted for a single story home, 3-phase power, tin or tiled roof. Thirdly - I love a good bargain and I believe this is a FANTASTIC price for those in the market for this type of system and Ozbargain is the place to share (should this be my first and foremost statement??).

I was looking into helping a family member get solar and was offered this amazing deal for the following package from GIO Tech Electrical - Screen Shot

Details:
60 x 330W Seraphim Blade Mono PERC panels = 19.8kW (25yr performance / 15yr Product warranties)
1 x 15kW 3-phase Fronius Inverter (10yr warranty)
1 x Fronius Smart Meter 63A - 3 Phase (for Wifi monitoring)
Fully installed within 80km from Brisbane CBD - $9,750

Personally - I had solar installed 6 months ago with a different company however, have heard really good things about GIO Electrical. If you want to read a little of my story of having researched different solar options in a different Ozbargain thread - read here

GIO Electrical have been really professional and more than happy to give advice with no pressure of sales at all! Because of their customer service and help, I asked the sales team if I could share this quote to others who may be in the market to buy which they were more than happy for me to do so.

Only available in SE QLD and must be signed up before 30th January. Feel free to PM me for more info or contact details.

Enjoy!

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Smugsley on 22/01/2020 - 15:45

Note from people in NSW. you won’t get feed in tariffs with a lot of energy companies if your system is above 10kw. Make sure you read the fine print. I assume this applies to qld people as well
- CrocDundee on 22/01/2020 - 15:47
  
  That is true across most states, not just NSW tbh. With EA lowering their FIT from 16.1c down to 11.5c there are very few who will give you great FIT rates for systems above 10kw.
  - Smugsley on 22/01/2020 - 15:49
    
    I’m getting 21c feed in at the moment which has been great.
    Almost a 20kw system would be a cracker if you could get the same rates
    - CrocDundee on 22/01/2020 - 16:05
      
      21c is awesome!!
  - wisc on 22/01/2020 - 15:51
    
    +3
    
    perhaps better of spent on a smaller solar install and battery bank?
    - Make it so on 22/01/2020 - 15:52
      
      Unless you want to bake bread in 8 ovens simultaneously? Or use 8 hair dryers?
      I'm not sure what you'd need 20kW for in a residential context.
      - macrocephalic on 22/01/2020 - 16:06
        
        +1
        
        @Make it so: Because solar system rarely run at 100%. I have a 5kw system and on a really sunny, cloudless day, it will hit 5kw, but most of the time during the day it's only doing 2-3kw on average. If you're running aircon and other appliances in your house then you might genuinely use more than 3kw at times. Yeah, for most 20kw is overkills, but it's not hugely more than a 10kw system.
        
        Wilburre on 22/01/2020 - 16:28
        
        @macrocephalic: also the reason that inverter power specs are below total panel specs - this 19.8kW system is capped at 15kw maximum due to the inverter, but due to their being 60 panels (they cant all be in the perfect location and orinetation on the roof, weather, shade etc even with a 19.8kW system you'd likely never get 19.8kw, hence to cut costs they go a "smaller" inverter.
        
        MojoMiwo on 22/01/2020 - 19:33
        
        @Wilburre: It is always recommended to get around 20% higher panel capacity than inverter capacity. The extra panels generate that bit more to compensate for lower generation in the evening/morning. I have a 4.7kw inverter and 5.6kw panels and only on full summer days do I ever reach the inverters capacity.
        https://energis.com.au/2018/10/oversizing-your-solar-system/
      - outlander on 22/01/2020 - 16:06
        
        +5
        
        @Make it so: Anti-satellite railgun is the first thing that comes to my mind. But I guess the 'more practical' people would say something boring like pool heating or underfloor heating.
      - adam-07 on 22/01/2020 - 16:08
        
        +1
        
        @Make it so: Bitcoin….
    - CrocDundee on 22/01/2020 - 16:04
      
      Would not purchase batteries yet. Still far to expensive and not worth the investment.. yet..
      
      My last two bills (I have a very similar system installed on my roof) have been approximately $800 credit and no electricity bill which is another $400-$500 saving.. So worth going the big system imo over 10kw and battery package..
- guidedlight on 22/01/2020 - 16:02
  
  +2
  
  It doesn’t actually stop you from installing a solar system bigger than 10kw, your feed-in will just be artificially capped at 10kw.
  
  So you can still get a larger aggregate generation during winter, cloudy days, etc. Plus it makes the battery economics better.
SteveAndBelle on 22/01/2020 - 15:54

Geezuz… SIXTY panels! No good for my tiny roof :(
- wisc on 22/01/2020 - 16:16
  
  +2
  
  replace your roof with solar panels!
  - SteveAndBelle on 22/01/2020 - 16:20
    
    Ha! Would love to but our house is only about 8x8m in total so I'd need about 3-4 times that area :)
    - ilikeit on 22/01/2020 - 20:48
      
      8 X 8m? What is it…a house for ants?
      - SteveAndBelle on 22/01/2020 - 22:29
        
        @ilikeit: Ha, yeah. The price we pay for urban living :)
Click_It on 22/01/2020 - 15:59

Amazing to see 20kW under $20k, bravo for that alone! Whether you want / need 20kW, or should be celebrated how cheap the technology id getting.

The FiT 10kW rule in most areas makes this a niche investment but a true bargain for those who truly need it. I know people who spent almost 4 times as much for similar just a few years ago.
- macrocephalic on 22/01/2020 - 16:08
  
  We paid about $7k for a 5kw system 6 years ago. You can get them for half that price now. Regardless, it's been saving us close to a $1k/year so it's well on track to pay itself off soon.
  - Click_It on 22/01/2020 - 16:10
    
    Sorry I meant $10k not 20k. Yeah solar is great, unfortunately I'll be renting after i sell, so it's a different proposition then 😕
qwerty40777 on 22/01/2020 - 15:59

+3

this system would not fit on the average roof space
- CrocDundee on 22/01/2020 - 16:01
  
  Yeah definitely need a fair amount of roofing space to install this system. Your typical suburban properties will struggle.
tnarg on 22/01/2020 - 16:02

+1

After reading your previous comment are you able to send me spreadsheet details pretty please. In only looking for a 5kw system thou. Cheers
- CrocDundee on 22/01/2020 - 16:10
  
  Are you referring to electricity prices? I saw another post the other day with a google doc of something similar but can't seem to find the thread… Happy to send through but you kinda need to understand how it works and what data you put in where. I have it set up for QLD Metro prices and electricity companies. Are you QLD metro?
  - tnarg on 23/01/2020 - 06:42
    
    Correct , I'm in Brisbane Metro. Any and all info would be great. Electricity prices, panel and inventor types.
    - CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 09:51
      
      Send me a pm, Tnarg and I'll see what I can do.
incipient on 22/01/2020 - 16:22

"Get TWO MOVIE TICKETS* as a gift of appreciation by simply referring us to your family and friends."

Haha that's a bit stingy.
- CrocDundee on 22/01/2020 - 16:28
  
  haha - didn't even look at that. Not interested in it tbh.
PlasticSpaceman on 22/01/2020 - 16:23

+1

Note that this system is 'over clocked' ie the panels can generate more power than the inverter is rated for. In other words the maximum amount of power the system will generate is limited by the inverter - 19.8kW of panels but only a 15kW inverter - so the system will never generate more than 15kW at any one point of time. On the flip side, it will on average generate more power in the morning/afternoon compared to a 15kW inverter with only 15kW of panels attached. I think the rule of thumb is no more than 30% over clocking to avoid damaging the inverter, so this is probably ok. If you have limited roof space, you could probably ask them to reduce the number of panels, save a little money, with a small impact on the amount of power the system will generate each day.
- Steptoe on 22/01/2020 - 16:31
  
  Removing panels will likely make little difference to the price as the STC’s mostly offset the panel cost. With some cheap panels the STC’s exceed the panel cost.
  - PlasticSpaceman on 22/01/2020 - 19:17
    
    Fair point. Even on my McMansion I'd struggle to fit 45, let alone 60, 1*1.7m panels though…. ;-)
B-Man02 on 22/01/2020 - 16:28

I put a 12kw system up then took 2kw off because my fit was 10c of I had a system greater than 10kw and got 20c if it was under. It decreased my payback significantly by doing so.

The plus side to having a large system is winter and the morning/afternoons.
I got a 4c bill for winter.
Also for tea your producing alot more alot later in the day so if you cook early enough most if not all is covered.
My parent have half the size system and they cant cover tea.
- Steptoe on 22/01/2020 - 16:34
  
  What size is your inverter? So you can’t use export limiting to meet the 10kW cap?
  - B-Man02 on 22/01/2020 - 22:35
    
    +1
    
    10kw inverter
    Dont know. Installer was unsure and origin said it was based off system size not inverter.
    Im happy with 10kw system anyway. Under 2 yr payback
kulprit on 22/01/2020 - 17:41

Crazy cheap. In getting a 12kW system with 10kW inverter for $15k. Different level panels etc but still.
- Steptoe on 22/01/2020 - 18:06
  
  I know it’s not Apples for Apples, but $5199 for 10kW system with slight oversizing here
  
  https://www.solargalaxy.com.au/ (not a recommendation BTW)
xug on 22/01/2020 - 17:51

Something a lot of people fail to consider is that a decent solar install can be a great financial investment. A good feedback tariff can earn you 15 to 20% on your investment, taking into account electricity savings as well. In contrast, the same money in a bank earns you about 3%.
Once they pay for themselves you are essentially making free money. Highly recommend.
- Steptoe on 22/01/2020 - 18:08
  
  Be mindful that high FIT is not likely sustainable, so “make Hay while the Sun shines”
- Salty Pretzel on 22/01/2020 - 18:38
  
  Something a lot of people fail two consider is that the feed in tariff could drop significantly, or even reduce to the zero. Then all the people relying on the FIT to pay for their system because they don't self consume are left with panels that they don't receive any benefit from.
- asa79 on 22/01/2020 - 19:37
  
  You are limited to 5kw feed in for qld
  - kulprit on 22/01/2020 - 20:01
    
    5kW per phase. So 15kW on a 3 phase house. And this is only South East corner Energex. Different times for Ergon.
    - asa79 on 22/01/2020 - 20:25
      
      https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/restrictions-on-rooftop-… provided it is export limited so it never provides more than 5 kilowatts of power to the grid3
      - F1Maniac on 22/01/2020 - 21:01
        
        @asa79: its still per phase restriction. so you can export 3x 5kw for a residence with 3phase power, otherwise yes limited to 5kw
        
        asa79 on 22/01/2020 - 21:20
        
        @F1Maniac: Where does it say that, i asked my installed if i can upgrade to 3 phase and more and they said you cant, so can you send me the details so i can pass to them as they must be missing that
        
        F1Maniac on 22/01/2020 - 21:42
        
        @asa79: here is what i found: https://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/solar-system-size-limits…
        
        Single phase: Up to 5kVA inverter capacity. 3-phase: up to 15kVA inverter capacity.
        
        in the link from the page takes you to: https://www.energex.com.au/contractors-And-service-providers…
        
        and looking through the pdf, energex documents states that its 10kw / phase for 3phase. 5kw/phase for two phase
        
        https://www.energex.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/34060…
        
        look for 5.4.5 (3phase) and 5.4.4 (2phase)
        
        CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 00:15
        
        +1
        
        @asa79: Asa - I can promise you 100% you can export 5kw per phase = 15kw. I do it now with my current 19.8kw system (15kw inverter) and my last bill was $800 credit plus no electricity bill!
        
        asa79 on 23/01/2020 - 13:18
        
        @CrocDundee: Is that recently or back with the big fitt. I wanted to add more panels but got told it was pointless based on that
        
        CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 15:15
        
        @asa79: It has been the case for at least a few years. Call energex - they will confirm :)
        
        F1Maniac on 23/01/2020 - 18:24
        
        @asa79: More panels without a higher capacity inverter would be but higher capacity inverter (>5kwh) would need three phase
        
        F1Maniac on 23/01/2020 - 14:29
        
        @CrocDundee: who do you use for the retailer? as most have 10kw limitation
        
        CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 15:18
        
        @F1Maniac: F1 - recently I have been with Energy Australia… Will be changing come 27 Jan with their drop in FIT to 11.5c
        
        At this stage I am looking into DC Power as they offer 15c with no limitation to system size (from what I have read) however, their usage and daily supply charges are ridiculous! I offset those by having a large system and trying to do all things that require high usage during the daytime.
        
        Or I might risk it and see if AGL will not see that I have a larger system installed and apply online ;) Don't like my chances though… lol
        
        asa79 on 23/01/2020 - 18:15
        
        @CrocDundee: I have 20c on AGL at moment
        
        CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 21:22
        
        @asa79: I presume you are not in QLD then :)
        
        AGL will offer an alright FIT for any system 10kw or less. Because I am over 10kw most companies won't offer anything good.
        
        asa79 on 23/01/2020 - 21:51
        
        @CrocDundee: tho i'm also single phase at moment and told 5kw was my limit
        
        CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 21:58
        
        @asa79: Single phase is very different to 3 phase. You can't just upgrade to a 3-phase system if you don't have 3 phase power in your home.
        
        If you are not in SE QLD (Energex) then I am unsure what you're allowed in your area but I know of people who only have Single phase power and were approved by Energex to have a 10kw system installed at their property. They are only able to export 5kw though but it meant they could export their maximum of 5kw whilst still covering their daily usage with an extra 5kw to play with.
        
        It pays to do a little bit of research and digging :)
        
        asa79 on 23/01/2020 - 21:59
        
        @CrocDundee: I could upgrade to 3 phase was a few grand tho
        
        CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 22:03
        
        @asa79: Then you got to weigh up whether it is worth the extra 3k to go 3 phase power in order to get a bigger system… Can your roof handle 60 panels? Do you plan on living there for a long time? What FIT can you get in your area with a 15kw system compared to a 5-10kw system?
        
        In the words of Ted Mosby, "Robin - Get me my legal Pad! It's Pros and Cons time!"
        
        kulprit on 24/01/2020 - 17:08
        
        @CrocDundee: Yeah this is why I've limited myself to a 10kW inverter. Could maybe fit 6 more panels and a 12.5kW inverter, but the lower FIT makes it less attractive.
        
        F1Maniac on 23/01/2020 - 18:23
        
        @CrocDundee: Surely you can export limit to 10kw? But yea then u need high usage at day time to avoid dissipated energy. We have 10kw system nearly 50% direct usage in summer as we work from home and have aircon running.
        
        Im also with ea atm, have applied to switch to agl but ea are dragging their feet. Its been 2.5weeks i still dont quite know where its upto
Salty Pretzel on 22/01/2020 - 18:27

Most people would probably struggle to fit 60 panels, or even close to that) on their roof.

It is a good deal though. Wasn't expecting to see the inverter being Fronius.
asa79 on 22/01/2020 - 19:36

your limited to 5kw of feed in, so you want a solar battery for all the rest
asa79 on 22/01/2020 - 19:40

Also be aware you need 3 phase hooked up to your house for this deal as well, so that will probably add on the cost if you dont already have it
- Charity on 22/01/2020 - 19:52
  
  Is that common? figured only industrial properties had that… and not sure if that is even a default setup
  - adam-07 on 22/01/2020 - 20:19
    
    The three phases run along the street and you should be able to get it hooked up by requesting it from your power provider. Things like fast charging of electric vehicles and solar battery systems backfeeding will push more places to have 3 phase. It's already starting to happen in Europe.
  - asa79 on 22/01/2020 - 20:19
    
    1 x 15kW 3-phase Fronius Inverter (10yr warranty)
    1 x Fronius Smart Meter 63A - 3 Phase (for Wifi monitoring)
    
    These are only 3 phase units, so not suitable for most residental houses that are single phase
- Worf on 22/01/2020 - 19:56
  
  How can you tell if you have or need 3 phase power?
  
  I have a large aircon in the living room (maybe 7.8kw) and I think it runs on its own circuit (20amp circuit breaker, which says a/c in the breaker box). Will this need 3 phase? If not, Is there some future scenario for a common domestic home which would require 3 phase power?
  - asa79 on 22/01/2020 - 20:20
    
    +1
    
    most larger split systems will run off single phase, if you had a huge ducted a/c then might be 3 phase version
  - lgacb08 on 22/01/2020 - 21:28
    
    +1
    
    if you're asking the question then probably not, only ducted system or something heavy duty like pool heating. Check your meter it usually say 1 phase or 3 phase, or checking the power connection point (if you have overhead wire) if it has 4 wires, 1 phase only use 2 wires.
  - B-Man02 on 22/01/2020 - 22:39
    
    +1
    
    Is the aircon breaker a single or triple din?
    
    I had to have 3 phase although I was going to request it anyway. And ended up cheaper than single phase due to the cable length.
    
    I wanted it so I could fill my shed with older 3phase equiptment that goes cheap when businesses upgrade because not many people can use it.
    - Worf on 23/01/2020 - 15:07
      
      Had to google image it. I have a single din. Pretty sure I have single phase.
  - dimitryp on 23/01/2020 - 11:26
    
    I have 3 phase coz of a large ducted air-con, but that's not that common.
    
    here's how you tell if you have single phase or 3 phase
    
    https://reductionrevolution.com.au/blogs/news-reviews/three-…
    - Worf on 23/01/2020 - 15:07
      
      Thanks 😊
Worf on 22/01/2020 - 20:01

Is sola hart any good? I’m concerned about small businesses folding leaving me high and dry on the warranty front
GoldilokZ on 22/01/2020 - 20:21

Would this require the house to run three phase power too?
That would add a few grand + to the cost for most people…
- CrocDundee on 23/01/2020 - 08:06
  
  Yes - house needs to be 3 phase power.
thebargainhunter on 24/01/2020 - 11:27

I was interested, so I tried to give them a call on the number from their website and google listing…
Optus advises that the number you have called has been disconnected 😟
- lucianoedo on 29/01/2020 - 12:31
  
  No sure with that. I have called the number and it works.

This was posted 4 years 11 months 1 day ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

[QLD] 15kW Solar System Premium Package $9,750 Installed within 80km of Brisbane @ GIO Tech Electrical

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