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Industry's first 16TB drive
Standard Model FastFormat (512e/4Kn)
Helium sealed-drive design delivers lower total cost of ownership through lower power and weight
Digital environmental sensors to monitor internal drive conditions for optimal operation and performance
Proven enterprise-class reliability backed by a 2.5M-hr MTBF rating
Seagate 16TB HDD Exos X16 7200 RPM 512e/4kn SATA 6GB/s 256MB $633.18 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU
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Get 2 then and Raid1 them
How does one loose data?
Not tight enough
Requires shaking
How does one loose data what?
No, that was the whole question.
We hear this BS every time. Someone will have horror stories about every manufacturer.
I ran an 8 bay Synology NAS with 8 x 4TB (shucked) Seagates 24/7 for 5 years without incident. Then I upgraded to 8 x 8TB (also shucked) which I've been running similarly for 3 years so far.
Before that I ran 4 x 2TB drives in a QNAP and a Buffalo NAS. No issues.
Seagate are just fine.
Run with a decent RAID level and a separate backup. Job done.
Backblaze stats would like to have a word with you.
How many personal users run them like that? None.
Plus they probably use RAID-level drives not the cheapo consumer ones which have served me fine.
And 2018 BB stats would like a word with you. Every manufacturer goes through phases. Get over your biases.
@Tacooo: Where does it show that WDC/HGST has higher failure? Are you seriously looking at that 4.64% which has only 383 drive count? Do I need to teach you high school statistics? Just scroll a little more and see their confidence interval.
@Tacooo: Lol this makes me laugh! This reminds me of the new reporting falling house prices when they only compare the month.
That table showing Seagate with the most failures is because they are running the most drives. Naturally you're going to get varying fail rates when you are testing 24,000+ Seagate 4tb units vs 146 Toshiba 4tb units
What's the point of referencing Backblaze stats to someone who's simply recounting their history with a brand and their lack issues with products from them?
You tell someone else further down to "Get over your biases" yet you're evidently the one with a bias to push.
My own statistically irrelevant data point is that I've had more WD drives fail than Seagate, but I'm still happy to buy either brand because both manufacture good products with decent warranties.
As gadgetguy stated, "Run with a decent RAID level and a separate backup. Job done."
@dm01: Person A says Seagate quality is crap.
Person B says that is BS.
I merely state there are stats to show that Seagate have higher failure rates.
You tell someone else further down to "Get over your biases"
That was actually sarcastic if you followed the thread. DannyBoy was calling out potplanty, and I was simply mocking potplanty.
but I'm still happy to buy either brand because both manufacture good products with decent warranties.
Same. I also have Seagate and WD and couldn't care less.
Yes. But no too. Each brand has dud models. For Seagate they were nailing it until the 3tb model which was a shocker. Yet 4tb was great.
You've got to avoid the duds. If you do that then they're equal enough.
Mind you, write to an array of drives from one manufacturer then full clone to an array from another manufacturer. Pricier but worth it if you can afford it. It takes things like fire and theft out of the equation when you take the clone off site too.
Thanks for your reply. Recently put in a new server and every seagate drive had to claim warranty. I had spent hours on it. Luckily no data loss so far…
That is why I don't recommend seagate at the moment, they maybe trying to off load dud drives at lower price.
Oh for (profanity) sakes get a (profanity) clue.
Is this a mis-price? It's cheaper than the 12TB on the same page. A 16TB Ironwolf Pro costs just under $1k.
I just can't bring myself to trust helium yet. Even if just for the postal service.
…why?
No matter what you do, gases always leak, even if very slowly. To my mind, the longevity of the tech is not yet proven
I have a thing against using Helium for hard drives (and balloons). It’s a precious resource with finite capacity on earth. Using it for hard drives seems wasteful
The amount of helium in a hard-drive is really not that much. Balloons though, yeah i agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOnqEwbxdk4 This video might trigger you.
Sufficiently triggered
Fantastic price! I've been getting the WD 14tb from Amazon. They come on special every few months for $600. This might be the last of the better hardware drives from Seagate. News is they'll be using SMR (Shingled) for their 20tb and over.
They can't really use SMR for any non-archive drives. The random write performance is just too much, and the drives get trashed. There was a good article on using the old 8tb archives in a nas. It wasn't pretty - they dropped like flies!
All of the new large drives should be using AMR, and in Seagate's case I think it's HAMR?
I read they were going to skip 18tb and go straight for 20tb. Looks like 18 will be coming out though… 20tb is going to be SMR and HAMR models? Wonder why they would use both techs. Very strange
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15064/seagate-18-tb-hdd-due-i…
Very tempting price. Nice find OP.
My adult movie collection is maxing out my 8TB drive and with everything going to 4K I may need to upgrade. lol
I have a 100TB RAID 6 array in a Unraid server for my collection. Plenty of room for 4K content.
Anyone able to purchase more than one?
Does the tax go up even more if it's over $1000 for the total in international sales? Only 5 in stock but even buy one per order if you are worried about it.
Over $40 per tb. No thanks.
Where the (profanity) are you getting your numbers from? That's a damn good price.
2x 8TB works out a bit cheaper.
$665.58 / 16 = $41.60 per terabyte
Recent WD Elements 8TB desktop drive $206.52 (yes I know it's a different product) or $25.82 per TB. The 16TB drive is 61% more expensive per TB than the 8TB drives.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/510242You could get 3 x 8TB (24TB) for the price of 1 x 16TB seagate drive.
Is the 16TB still a damn good price? Depends on your situation if you have limited drive bays and you need high capacity storage. For most people, I would lean towards no at the current time of writing this post.
Not really fair to compare those drives and you lose warranty when you shuck the drive you linked. That drive is a white label as well. Compare it to a 8tb deal of the WD reds or seagate ironwolf/exos and it'd be far more of a reasonable price difference.
@congo: Where did I imply otherwise? Of course the reds are better. My point was the link Raima posted was for a white drive, and he should've been comparing this seagate against atleast a WD red or Seagate ironwolf/exos drive.
yea. if it was SSD id bite :)
You couldn't afford the SSD version, it's for Nigerian Princes only.
$639.93 now!
Yea, i was lucky enough to cancel my amazon US orders and order again from amazon AU to save $30 (ordered two). Good to see them fix their prices to be in line with amazon US listing. Also got a month of prime this way which i can use for other shit.
$637.69 now
$635.13 now
If you ever had to deal with large numbers of those supposedly reliable enterprise HDDs and SSDs you know that 2.5M hours MTBF is likely next year.
Put these drives into RAID1 or UnRAID, don't even think about RAID5, 6 or similar.
For any future reference, i've had two of these hard drives DOA now. Amazon US ship them so carelessly it would take a miracle for you to receive a working one. Do not bother. It will only end in disappointment and wasted time (and resources).
They must literally ship these and claim them on insurance immediately because they know they aren't arriving working.
Man that's a lot of data to loose in one hit!