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[US] Kingston 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 2) USD$88.78 + Shipping

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[US] Kingston 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 2) USD$88.78 + Shipping
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Pthe discombobulated… on 09/08/2011 - 12:50 memorydepot.com (275 clicks)
Last edited 09/08/2011 - 15:07

This would be primarily for those who got HP boxes and wanted ECC ram specifically. I found this lot after looking around and have already made my purchase. Have not received the items yet but from the specs it looks like they ought to work (unless I missed something).

Pricing is as follows:

8GB Kit, Intel tested - USD88.78 AUD91.30
8GB Kit, normal - USD87.02 AUD89.45
4GB Kit, Intel tested - USD40.40 AUD AUD41.60
4GB Kit, normal - USD39.28 AUD40.40

I'm not sure as to the exact specs of the 1GB stick inside the HP so am not posting an attempt at a matching 1GB stick.

I bought 2 x 8GB Intel tested kits and my shipping came out to be USD15.90 AUD16.35. This was the slow shipping (2 weeks). The 1 week or so version is about double that. Not posting shipping in the title as I do not know if it's static or if it changes depending on destination and quantity. At least you have something as a good guide. If people purchase and their shipping winds up different please post and I'll try to update.

Finding these on static ice I got the following pricing:

4GB Kit, Intel tested - AUD44.70
4GB Kit, normal - AUD44.70

Not much of a bargain there but I'm including for completeness.

8GB Kit, Intel tested - AUD157.30
8GB Kit, normal - AUD149.00

So a bargain to be had there. :)

Info on Intel tested Kingston ram is available at http://www.valueram.com/alliances/inteltested.asp .

Hope this is enough info. No guarantees it'll work in your Microserver. I'm hoping my purchase does. gulp :)

Oh. AUD is falling (or rising). AUD estimates may be different by the time you get to it. :/

Oh II. You'll want to pay via PayPal. If you pay by CC they'll want you to call them (bleh), send copies of your ID (double bleh) or pay via PayPal (oh well).

Oh III. This is for ECC RAM. The HP does not need ECC RAM so if you do not want it, this is not a bargain for you as non-ECC memory can be had cheaper. ECC gets you error correction and detection. Your HP will have a whinge if the data between the PC and its memory is found to be bad. Without ECC you may just, silently, get corrupted data. Unlikely but I have seen it happen.

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  • dkslim on 09/08/2011 - 13:02
    +1

    Crappy AUD falling has eliminated all the good US deals for us.

  • Black Hole on 09/08/2011 - 13:05
    -3

    8G Kit (4Gx2) 1333 G.Skill-NT - $46 at MSY so why is this a bargain?

    • stumo on 09/08/2011 - 13:10
      +3

      One word… ECC

      I can confirm the part number is the same as what I got from Scorptec, which has been running happily in my microserver for a few months now.

    • the discombobulated… on 09/08/2011 - 13:10

      Is that ECC? Being MSY I'm kind of doubting.

      If not, though, then it's an apples to oranges comparison. The HP does not NEED ECC but if you want it, these prices appear the best that I've seen so far.

      If you do not want ECC, there are better prices to be had in the non-ECC range of memory as you've probably spotted.

  • ironworthy on 09/08/2011 - 13:37

    damn, if only you posted this last week when our our exchagne was 1.10, it dropped 10 cents in a week :(

    how much is shipping to OZ

  • dvddirect on 09/08/2011 - 13:44

    Great stuff mate and thanks for the tip! - my HP server from the direct HP sale should arrive in the next few days and this should go along great with it. Cheers!

  • Black Hole on 09/08/2011 - 14:10

    How common is error in ram resulting in data error in real life? Is it worth the extra $$ for this safety?

    I have the HP Proliant and is playing around last weekend with Freenas by doing a lot of reading as I know nothing about this program and linux. I have played around freenas on my virtualbox and liking it so far. I am intended to use Freenas 7.2 rather than version 8 as it uses less resource. I am thinking of moving up to version 8 when it is more mature and I believe this version required a lot of ram to run.

    • the discombobulated… on 09/08/2011 - 14:23

      Can't say how common it is but I've hit it a fair few times, both in expensive hardware (near $10k) and in cheap. It turned up as either corrupt files after loading that weren't corrupt, mysterious software failure, boot failure, failure under stress and so on. When the memory was ECC and the OS survived long enough (or the internal hardware monitoring of the server was good enough) I got told that there was a memory failure, whether or not it was corrected and which stick it was.

      Up to you if that's worth it to you.

  • Kaboda on 09/08/2011 - 14:21

    I guess when it comes to commercial purposes its safer to go ECC than NON ECC its only 40 bucks more ?

    • the discombobulated… on 09/08/2011 - 14:26

      Mine's not commercial in purpose but the pricing I got from memory depot made the expenditure close enough for me to decide to exploit the server grade hardware I now have and go for it.

  • Black Hole on 09/08/2011 - 14:43

    How come the photo depiction of the intel and non intel tested looked different?

  • nicky100 on 09/08/2011 - 14:56

    Just bought single 4g kingston non-ECC ram from msy for $29, works perfect in my Microserver, comparing the intel_tested ECC ram, the price is more than double, so I recommand for most of ppl who not very very much care about that to use normal ram instead, save a lot… and I doubt you can tell the difference from them.

    Anyone looking for the original HP 1G DDR3 ECC I unloaded from the microserver are welcome contact me :)

    • pptn on 11/08/2011 - 00:53

      Hi, still got that 1GB stick? I'd be happy to take it off your hands :)

      shoot me a line, a tenner sound fair?
      pptn12 AT gmail

  • UFO on 09/08/2011 - 16:02

    I understand the benefits of ECC RAM in the server world, but people should remember that there is NO performance gain in ECC RAM. It's all about reliability…. and is really only important for those administrators wanting critical performance from servers that will cost businesses downtime in having a server crap itself due to an error in the RAM (and therefore a shutdown and repair required). Network administrators HATE having to go onsite to diagnose RAM issues, and business owners just want things to work 24/7.

    For home applications (where downtime is less costly), there is little to no benefit in this more expensive memory. By all means if you can afford it, go for it… it's one less thing to worry about in a worst case scenario, but for most home server setups its complete overkill and you'd be better off putting that money towards more actual RAM or larger hard drives or lollypops or whatever else you want to buy :).

    For the same money (or less!) I'd rather an extra couple of Gb of non ECC RAM (or even a matched pair which is even better) for home use and get much better performance, than for the same cost of smaller ECC RAM that'll be slower but a little more reliable.

    I guess you gotta ask yourself this… when was the last time your home pc shut down because of bad RAM? Stick to a decent brand of non ECC RAM and you'll be fine folks. Leave ECC for the server critical techs.

    • stumo on 09/08/2011 - 16:14

      Depends how much you value your data for the sake of a few bux. And as memory density increases, so do bit errors as a result of sub atomic particles. So by going for bigger non-ECC memory modules instead, you are actually increasing your risk even more.

      Bedtime reading…
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_memory

      • UFO on 09/08/2011 - 16:15

        very true and no arguement from me at all. ECC is the best for servers- no question. I just think it's not necessary in home apps.

        • stumo on 09/08/2011 - 16:21

          Note that the main problem isn't really system stability, its more about memory errors being secretly replicated permanently into your HDD data on an on-going basis.

          More bedtime reading…
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rot

        • UFO on 09/08/2011 - 16:41

          also agreed… but 'bit-rot' also occurs in hard drives and other storage media, and considering the type of data and storage already used in home situations, most users buying this product already have partially corrupted data and the integrity isn't 100% anymore anyway.

          mind you i've been shuffling data from one clean install to another for years and havent had a corruption of files due to bit-rot yet. i have however, had RAM and hard drive failures… for which regular backing up has been a godsend.

          i still reckon ECC is overkill for home, but for those concerned with data and system integrity (and have a little extra coin to spend) there are obvious benefits. but in this instance I'd rather go for speed, quantity, and cheaper price… over quality and system/data integrity.

    • excite on 09/08/2011 - 17:18

      Agree, use desktops and laptops with non-ECC rams for years, no serious problem caused by non-ECC ram so far, this also explains why non-ECC rams dominate the market

      • Gaz1 on 09/08/2011 - 19:16

        Many server boards simply wont work with non-ECC RAM.

  • smackus on 09/08/2011 - 19:52

    this is a bargain. Thanks.

  • the discombobulated… on 10/08/2011 - 11:32

    For those who were holding back, wee bit of a jump. AUD is 1.035 or so so now the ram will be cheaper in AUD than in USD. I posted at a bad time. =)

  • hellrazorone on 10/08/2011 - 11:34

    Greenboxit has reduced the price of these (as someone posted on OCAU)
    http://greenboxit.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=9260

    4G ECC single stick is $34.38 (down from $73.70).

    Only problem is their ridiculous shipping (around $34 with registered post for 4 sticks to Perth), but still cheaper than Scorptec and the above deal.

    • stumo on 10/08/2011 - 11:45

      It's showing $73 now, is there a code needed?

      • hellrazorone on 10/08/2011 - 12:16

        No code, looks like they've changed it back. Fingers crossed they ship my order. Apparently they had 98 units in stock this morning so my best guess would be that word got around (on OCAU) about the special price, they sold quite a few and now are down to normal stock levels … hence the price going back up. Must have only happened in the last 15 mins or so. Sorry!

        • hellrazorone on 10/08/2011 - 13:28

          Grr my order just got cancelled citing no stock (via a blank email, so I logged into their site to check my order status). What a load of rubbish. Another dodgey retailer to add to my "do not buy from" list. It's a constantly increasing list at the moment and Australian retailers wonder why we prefer to shop overseas.

          Especially as "Supplier_Stock_Level currently is 76"

  • flyingtrapeze on 10/08/2011 - 11:53

    the hp microserver came with 1GB of ram, this will go with it nicely

    • flyingtrapeze on 15/08/2011 - 22:07

      end up getting gskill 2x4gb from umart $65. working fine running xenserver

  • venomx2 on 15/08/2011 - 21:59

    has your ram arrived yet and does it work with the hp microserver?

    • the discombobulated… on 15/08/2011 - 22:07

      I took the slow boat option so I have approx 1 more week to wait.

    • the discombobulated… on 21/08/2011 - 17:26

      It has arrived. It is installed (that was a pain). All 4 4GB sticks work. Joy! :)

  • bfg100k on 19/08/2011 - 17:38
    +1

    For those of you in Sydney looking to buy this RAM, you may want to consider getting it locally from Mwave. The price is now $93.70.

    • Works out cheaper if you can pick up at their Sydney warehouse
    • No need to worry about overseas warranty return
    • Get it in less than 2 weeks
    • Mwave is participating in the Amex $50 off $250 purchase (need to add 1.7% surcharge though)
    • the discombobulated… on 19/08/2011 - 20:11

      Nice find. I'll change the desc… or not. oh well. URL:

      http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-37140618-Kingston_8GB_%282x_4GB%…

    • venomx2 on 22/08/2011 - 22:45

      Mwave don't seem to have stock though.

      • the discombobulated… on 22/08/2011 - 23:07

        Guess someone got to the few they had. That said, the 8gb intel tested kit is now AUD87.90 ex delivery. Mine arrived in working order in the advertised time.

        • bfg100k on 23/08/2011 - 19:19

          FYI, my order was backordered even though they were showing in stock at supplier so it could be the case where they have no stock to begin with. Anyhow, I checked around and it seems like the shortage is pretty widespread.

          Interestingly, one of the shop I emailed replied to say that there is a pending price increase so maybe that's why they are out of stock now?

  • stumo on 30/08/2011 - 22:53

    Mine finally arrived today (2x 8GB kits), that took like forever, ordered on the day the deal was posted.

    To top it all off the frikkin postie took a run up and threw the parcel like 8 metres from the driveway onto the front porch then ran. dick. Luckily they were well packaged.

    Chucked them in my 2 microservers and everythings fine and dandy. Now my microservers can max out a gigabit link even on large 4GB+ file transfers. Gotta love the microserver.

    I have 2x 1GB stock ECC modules, and 1x 4GB ECC kingston modules for sale if anyone's interested.

    • the discombobulated… on 30/08/2011 - 23:03

      Mine finally arrived today (2x 8GB kits), that took like forever, ordered on the day the deal was posted.

      Yeah it felt like forever for mine. Was quite happy when they arrived. :)

      To top it all off the frikkin postie took a run up and threw the parcel like 8 metres from the driveway onto the front porch then ran. dick. Luckily they were well packaged.

      AIRMAIL! :) You pay extra for that. ;)

      That's why I use a PO box whenever possible.

      Chucked them in my 2 microservers and everythings fine and dandy. Now my microservers can max out a gigabit link even on large 4GB+ file transfers. Gotta love the microserver.

      I have a dual-port HP card in mine so that I can use jumbo frames (the onboard is crippled - figured they'd cock it up somewhere to product-differentiate) so that it comes as fast as possible with the least cpu use possible. :)

      • stumo on 31/08/2011 - 16:12

        I'm still just using the onboard LAN, drivers seem to be pretty good under 2k8 server R2.

        No point for me going dual LAN yet, since the other end is still single and I only hammer it from one PC at a time.

        You can see below the speeds are maxing out a single GBe link, this is using a single 2TB green seagate drive too (and now with 8GB RAM I get these speeds right up to 4GB file sizes)…

        NAS performance tester 1.2 http://www.808.dk/?nastester
        Running warmup…
        Running a 400MB file write on drive S: 5 times…
        Iteration 1: 105.6 MB/sec
        Iteration 2: 112.75 MB/sec
        Iteration 3: 115.04 MB/sec
        Iteration 4: 101.32 MB/sec
        Iteration 5: 108.26 MB/sec

        Average (W): 108.6 MB/sec

        Running a 400MB file read on drive S: 5 times…
        Iteration 1: 110.64 MB/sec
        Iteration 2: 110.17 MB/sec
        Iteration 3: 110.95 MB/sec
        Iteration 4: 113.28 MB/sec
        Iteration 5: 115.14 MB/sec

        Average (R): 112.04 MB/sec
    • excite on 23/09/2011 - 00:21

      Hi stumo, is your 4GB ECC kingston still available for sale, if yes, how much?

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