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In what way is this offensive?
It's just political spam with politically motivated negs and positives as opposed to a good value bargain. Just like the Adani and Greens trash posted a while back.
Conservative pundits and the butt end of a dial are both similar in that if you follow them they will direct your attention to the complete opposite of what you're supposed to be paying attention to.
Klavan’s show is not bad but the rest of them especially Shapiro are a waste of time.
Curious why you like Klavan but not Shapiro?
Shapiro comes across as full of himself. He’s always eager to prove how he’s so much smarter than those ‘leftists’ and his smug look is off-putting. Klavan is much more down-to-earth, and isn’t too proud to throw in some good ‘ol self-deprecating humour.
Yes, Shapiro is smug and an acquired taste. Though, he does do bit of self-deprecating humour.
I’d rather watch Nick Fuentes on YouTube for free
Second that. Genuinely funny and not so politically correct. I can easily watch a whole 2-hour show and be engaged throughout it
Hello epic department?
Thanks OP
It's amazing how intolerant the left are these days. They are honestly delusional. That's not because I'm right-leaning but because they are GENUINELY DELUSIONAL.
So many great free podcasts out there. 50% off this is still 50% too much.
You'll be pleased to know that you can also listen to this for free as well (the podcast only without the extras).
And again this is an invalid neg.
People are paying 100$ all the time… now it is 50% off clearly a deal.
Comes with a free small hat
The best thing about stuff like this is not what they say or believe but that it brings out all the chirpy OCD goblins obsessed with silencing speech and discussion. The hypocrisy is astounding. We've made such great strides progressing only to lose sight of the many of the core principles that allowed us to get here. Then again the number of civilizations that self destructed before us should we really be surprised. That said, bugger paying for this!!!!
The podcast only without the extras is free.
I would give him that much credit tbh
Most idiots i know are well above this pint sized loser in every measurable way
Lmao sell your flooded house to Aquaman. Wtf would you listen to this idiot?
Negative vote - Major Issue with the retailer
Per previous political posts, believing that the retailer is providing a poor standard of work that is not only biased and untrustworthy “news” that masquerades itself as “opinion”, but is also causing a dangerous rift in politics with articles that are disparaging to LGBTQ people, racist and regularly proven to be untrue(see “segregated Harvard graduations”, “Democrat’s refusing to stand for Veterans”, “Mohammed is the most popular boys name in the Netherlands”, “Leftists digging up confederate graves”)
I fundamentally believe that voting negatively on a product or retailer providing a product that I view as dangerous is a legitimate reason to negative, and I would expect that the facts don’t care about your feelings crowd to respect that their views and opinion were counted on the below deals.
Negative votes for NYT for being biased
Negative votes for #StartAdani stickers being counter to the interests of Australia
Negative votes for being political spam
I believe that the negs on your example posts are also invalid, did not make any of them, and would have reported them too.
However, you can see that if they were invalid then, they are invalid on this one too, right?
When there is a difference of opinion whose opinion is the dangerous one?
The one that is not based on facts
I think they said that of all the great ideas - until they were proven right.
Imagine what our world would be like if they had silenced the dissenters throughout history when science didn't recognise a round earth, the existence of bacteria, or women's suffrage.
I don’t think we should silence any voices, they deserve to say their piece, I just believe this is a poor quality product, doesn’t deserve the advertising and dangerous to the political landscape, and I believe that Negging a deal is also an appropriate facet of speech.
If someone posted an Occupy Democrats deal, I would also Neg that.
If all political negs are inappropriate, but we only remove ones from one side of the political spectrum then who’s voice are we silencing?
I agree with your last sentence, we either allow all political content - or none.
As for this being 'poor quality', as someone who regularly listens to the podcast I disagree.
As for it being 'dangerous to the political landscape' I think silencing one side of political debate is far more dangerous.
and the great thing is someone else can come along with a "better product", they are just ideas not calls to action with plenty of counter argument out there, so I don't see what is dangerous about it
Finally! Someone willing to explain their neg. I'd love to take the time to view all those articles carefully but that won't be tonight. Maybe tomorrow. Most likely though you are referring too general left vs right shit canning they both do on each other, politics 101. I do not agree where you mentioned 'racist'. Are you able to link to something that is clearly racist and that has not been clarified? Not sure if it's in what you referred already but none of them are racist, at all, that is a pure lie based on your interpretations, can you link to something clearly without a doubt racist? As for the LGBTQ community they can be a little insensitive at worst but generally nothing they say is technically wrong. Facts don't care about your feelings ;)
You have really tied me in a bow with your premise, that If something has been clarified, it can’t be racist and that if must be clear and without a doubt racist.
I think we are going to run into a fundamental disagreement in our beliefs over what is a fact and what are our feelings because we fundamentally disagree over what racist is.
I think that repeatedly referring to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar as not supportive of American values and bringing up wether or not she is anti-semetic has clear racist undertones, that pushing the birtherism conspiracy was something they wouldn’t have done to a white president and that they were only doing it because Obama was African American.
I don’t think we are going to agree on wether racist undertones are racism or if they even exist, I just think that similar to other reasons for negging having interpretations, like poor supplier, bad past experiences and shipping time too long, I am making a judgement call based on my truly held beliefs that I believe the post isn’t an appropriate deal in a way that past negs have been cast.
I, maybe naively, think that we are mature enough to let the voting system decide wether or not it is appropriate and I am happy to be proven wrong, I just think I should be allowed the opinion.
Fair enough. Nah we aren't going to agree but that's ok. At least you explained your vote and at least had the gall to speak your view. I respect that even if I do disagree. Omar is clearly a socialist and has spewed hateful rhetoric and can be classified unpatriotic the way she carries on. Her and her 3 crazy friends. But you're right that's interpretation, obviously we disagree. As for the Obama thing, I think that was just a cheap hit on him, it was low hanging fruit used to stir up the simpletons and it worked to some extent. The voting system in OzB is strongly in the lefts favour which makes sense. I am guessing the biggest demographic on here are younger people, in particular Uni students who obviously are strapped for cash and other groups I don't go in to as it may open up a can of worms I don't want to deal with. Or maybe you're just making better points ;). Fine by me, appreciate we could have a mostly civil conversation. I wish more of the neggers had the stones.
Why is it racist to say that someone who repeatedly makes anti-semitic comments is an anti-semite?
@Almost Banned: It’s not, and if you are truly concerned about racism do you have some examples of Shapiro and others spending equal air time calling out white men for their anti-semitism?
@boxycelery: Not anti-semitism, but you can research Ben Shapiro's comments on Rep Steve King. After initially giving him the benefit of the doubt he turned on him very strongly and called him out - even though he was a Republican - for his racist comments.
He is also regularly critical of Trump.
However the recent rise in anti-semitism is a product more of the left than the right.
@boxycelery: Jeremy Corbyn of the British Labour Party tends to get called out fairly often.
Shapiro makes a point of calling it out wherever and whenever he sees it.
The premise of "undertone" is problematic as it prevents a conversation from happening. If you attribute bad intent you will hear and see if everywhere you go. Some times words just mean what they literally mean.
To quote Anita Sarkeesian "… everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic, and you have to point it all out to everyone all the time …"
When I first heard this I thought it was sarcasm, unfortunately I was incorrect
Some evidence to back up the claim that the retailer is garbage:
Many of Ben Shapiro's tweets are literally blocked in Germany for inciting racial hatred.
Yep - because the Orthodox Jew is the real racist.
What, so an orthodox Jew can't be racist?
Bizarre line of thinking there.
I mean, you went and found another political commentator on Youtube and then cited the first comment on the video page as evidence of your evidence. Good work.
I thought it was the easiest format for people to comprehend - since they're already indicating they're fans of Youtube-hosted political commentary. Cheers for the positive comment.
I watched about 3 minutes and realised where this garbage is going. Edit here, insert there, mis-quote here, lie there. Etc etc.
3 minutes, I'm impressed.
Point out one mis-quote or lie. I'm waiting.
@mellow: Me too, should have been 3 seconds.
Gen-Z likes to 'think' he's real smart - He is.
'I am popular and no one has ever heard of you' - taken out of context to attack his persona.
That he is not a serious person, the guy is as serious as a heart attack. A little too serious, really.
'Ben Shapiro is an extremely biased, emotional, narcissist who pretends he's a student of logic and debate but is actually just a talking head for conservatives and has used his popularity and personal bigotry and religious beliefs to stoke the fires of racism and political hatred for way too long and he shouldn't be taken seriously'
*** Where do I start with that one… He's a narcissist who pretends to be logical but he's just a conservative puppet and he takes advantage of his popularity to be a bigot and a racist. He's a joke. Lol, what the f**k? Again, show me one time he has been racist or a bigot in the true definitions of the words, not just your own interpretation.
Host says he doesn't do this to be superior to Ben, yet has the audacity to say in the next sentence that he is just doing it to drag his ego back down - another personal attack.
Makes fun of his height, says he is not trying to be mean.
Misconstrued him paraphrasing Steven Crowder because he didn't say 'lispy' before Queer, again trying to make him out to be some gay hater.
That was all within 3 minutes, thought I'd jump through for another minute or two to prove my point further.
Proceeds to call Ben a liar who lies all day, everyday.
Mocks the synopsis of his book and a spelling mistake like he did it himself when we all know books are published by… you know, publishers.
Lied that Ben said Universal Healthcare is tyrannical - What he actually said is, forcing people to pay for a level of insurance seems tyrannical to a lot of Americans in regard that the government can FORCE you to buy anything. Makes a valid point to question what happens to people who still don't pay for it.
Proceeds to say that Ben isn't civil and just because he provides facts, it doesn't mean he interprets those facts correctly, which is true, but he lets people have their say ALL THE TIME and he still absolutely crushes them.
You can argue there is an attempt at a humorous element in this video which is perfectly normal if it wasn't so blatantly obvious this guy despises Ben and is using every cheap shot he can. I watched 6 minutes and literally everything he said was either a lie or just personal attacks. If he were to sit down with Ben and debate with him it would be an absolute mauling.
Luckily you caught me while I was on my PC on eBay otherwise I would never have bothered to type this up. My original comment stands, especially now after watching another 3 minutes. This guy is a snowflake, I would love to see him and Ben go at it, he deserves to be intellectually destroyed in public for being a prick.
EDIT: Holy shit, I just skipped through like 20 minutes to see a little more. I honestly think this guy is retarded. The way he tries to play the 'Gotcha' game on Ben is hilariously bad. Oh man I hope these guys meet up one day.
I don’t think this is helpful to the discussion, stick to your interpretation of their content, anyone willingly listen to this entire video already agrees with you.
On the contrary, the video highlights many times Ben Shapiro has lied and produced hateful (islamaphobic/racist/homophobic) content, and it's in a format that the fans of his content will already like - Youtube video essay / commentary. I feel like it's a pretty reasonable fit, but I do understand your point - most won't bother actually trying to watch the video as it's long and somewhat preachy
and we all know Germany is the authority on Hate
😂
Well they are one of the few countries that owns up to the failures of their past and faces it head-on with legislation and education, so yeah, I'd agree - they're actually a very good authority on hate-speech
@mellow: They've become the most nanny of nanny states because they can't trust their own people because of their past. Not a model nation to emulate.
It's easy to search and find a partisan political commentator on YouTube to sh*tcan their opponents, on either side. What matters is the quality of the argument.
BTW, it's practically racist to eat a pork sausage in Germany.
If your comment was blocked for "inciting racial hatred", does that make you a racist?
I do not claim to have read all of Shapiro's tweets but I have never come across a single tweet of his that "incites racial hatred".
Please do us a favour. A genuine favour by changing our minds with evidence. Quote Shapiro "inciting hatred."
Easy, here's a few I foudn in a 30 second search that you could have easily done yourself - FYI most of these are mentioned in the video I posted.
"So, who's looking forward to some good old-fashioned Arabs burning things and murdering Joos?"
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/25712847277
"There will be war tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar. If UN passes, Arabs will begin murdering Jews. If not, Arabs will begin murdering Jews."
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/115858124858068992
"Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue."
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/117270362303119360
Inb4 these are all passed off by his supporters as 'playful joking' or 'intentionally triggerring the left'.
@mellow: Very crass comments, I wouldn't pretend otherwise not but "inciting hatred" it is not.
There will be war tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar. If UN passes, Arabs will begin murdering Jews. If not, Arabs will begin murdering Jews.
Claiming a group that has been attacking another group repeatedly for longer than I can remember is simply stating facts. Again, he is stating it very bluntly, not a nice thing but if we call that "inciting hatred", practically all protest groups should be censored for the same incitement.
I hope protesters are allowed to continue.
Claiming a group likes to do a particular thing or live in particular filth is in poor taste.
If someone is all that racist, surely you don't have to dig 9 years back to find "examples".
Again, not "inciting hatred", just two crass comments and one completely factual one.
@mellow: Ben Shapiro: So, Here’s A Giant List Of All The Dumb Stuff I’ve Ever Done (Don’t Worry, I’ll Keep Updating It)
https://www.dailywire.com/news/so-heres-giant-list-all-dumb-…
I’ve also tweeted some 120,000 times – and Twitter is a place for jokes and quips and hot takes, as anyone with half a brain knows. It’s not exactly the place for nuanced discussion. I’m far snarkier on Twitter than I am in person, just like every other person on Twitter in human history.
My comments break down into four categories: stupid/immoral stuff I’ve said or done (and repeatedly retracted); stuff the Left is taking out of context deliberately because they’re jerks; stuff the Left just doesn’t like very much that happens to be true; and stuff I’ve said that’s clearly opinion the Left just doesn’t like.
Example:
The “Arabs” Tweet: I tweeted back in September 2010, amidst a wave of Hamas and Palestinian Authority terrorism:
"Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue."
I was clearly talking about Israeli and Arab leadership, as well as terror-supporting people in the Arab world. How do you know that? Because I said so in the very next tweets:
I would be interested to know why you think Shapiro is dangerous?
Their reasons have a bad habit of collapsing when scrutinised.
would you rather ideas are discussed underground without any one around to provide a counter argument, like what Hitler did in the German pubs before the Nazi's rise to power?
Does anyone know if they deliver the tumbler to Australia?
A previous commenter says that they do (or at least did) but I’ve contacted them for further details. I’ll report back when I have a response (hopefully before the deal ends).
Any word yet from DW?
Not a word. I ended up settling for the lower-tier sub.
Yes.
How did you manage to put in an Aussie address? I couldn’t see the option.
Yeah did you have an option to select country for your shipping address?
I didn't make a purchase personally, but I'm sure I've heard they ship outside the US.
I've sent an email to Daily Wire support. Will report back when I get a reply.
If the shows are already up for free what's the value in this?
Extras. Click the link for comparisons.
The subscription allows access to ad-free articles on the site, live versions of the shows, Shapiro’s Sunday Special a day early, an extra two hours a day of Shapiro’s show, the ability to interact on some shows, extra content (unspecified) on the site and — If you get an annual sub — the infamous Leftist Tears tumbler.
Remember when the left was good? Seems like so long ago when they fought for the better of mankind, for the little person to get treated better in the world. Now it's banning clapping, gender-pronouns and insulting blind men for animal cruelty for having a guide dog. So sad.
Oh! How could I forget downvoting me, instead of trying to put a reasonable argument together - they can't, so they just use emotions. Genuinely saddens me what the left has become and this post proves it.
Do you truly believe these are beliefs that the majority of the left holds? Would you be similarly upset if I Said the right were all KKK racists who think that facts dont care about feelings until it’s their feelings that have been insulted and nazis?
I think you are taking minority beliefs and sandwiching them around reasonable changes to write of the beliefs of many many people as crazy, when it’s just that someone being trans makes you slight uncomfortable.
Certainly not all, not even the majority, I should have clarified that - my mistake. But it is truly alarming how much of the left is exactly this way, in particular young left leaning people who are absolutely brainwashed in Universities around the western world. It is scary that they are our future. If they don't have a wake up moment in the next 5-10 years then don't think that a failed socialist government isn't coming. I know how crazy that sounds and I hope I'm wrong but with the internet age the left have never been this 'nuts'. Oh, and the ones I'm referring too already call anyone with a small toe on the right side of the line Nazi's, KKK, facists etc,etc. I don't know why you would think trans people make me uncomfortable? That's not it at all, it's the huge number of clearly delusional people who think you can pick your gender and MUST refer to their pronoun or you are a BIGOT. I'm talking about the huge number of attention seeking nutjobs who have life so easy that things like this are deemed an issue. I am in my bed on my mobile so sorry if I came of brash but it's hard with big hands on a small screen. I'll try and follow up with you tomorrow if you'd like to continue discussing this.
Well, you failed to differentiate yourself from the left-wing crazies by giving this deal an invalid down vote.
What do you believe was invalid? I am trying be clear in why I think it was appropriate and if you disagree I would like to know where our opinion differs.
@rokufan: Right, and I clearly, in my top level comment, mention which category, why I believe it fits the category and give references to past negative voting in line with my reasoning and provide article references to where I sourced the views from.
If you disagree, please let me know why, not just posting a link.
@boxycelery: "Major Issue with the retailer" relates to customer service, delivery, warranty, etc.
Your real issue with this deal is ideological.
“news” that masquerades itself as “opinion”
It is rather amusing how you phrased that. But I know what you are trying to say, and you are wrong. Daily Wire is conservative opinion and has never claimed to be "news".
Your opinion that The Daily Wire is "dangerous" is not a reasonable one.
I agree with you but the examples he has given do get mainstream attention and are becoming more prevalent. I disagree with these sorts of beliefs just as the same as what those on the far right hold as well. The difference is that as a society we condemn holding these far right opinions (for obvious reasons) however some of these new far left beliefs seem to not face the same sort of scrutiny as far right opinions. We should be working to to remove any forms of extremism from being acceptable.
Ben Shapiro does have a fair following of people who are obnoxious and intolerant (who seem to reciprocate the same message this guy has said). This shouldn't discredit what Shapiro says but I think in terms of these sorts of deals they aren't appropriate for Ozbargain. The problem is then what is deemed to be I guess you could say 'too political' because there are obviously other deals for news subscriptions such as SMH or Herald. Would definitely like to see a good discussion of this and I'm hoping that I never see an Infowars subscription deal on this site.
You are correct about there being a double standard. The far-right are rightly condemned and ostracised, whereas the far-left seems to be accommodated to a large extent.
As for this deal, it should be allowed. At 50% off it is deal-worthy. And I would say the same for media I hate.
@rokufan: What would your thoughts be on allowing deals on subscriptions to conspiracy psuedo-science news subscriptions such as Infowars? I just don't see that being fit for being on Ozbargain even if they are offering a significant discount, because realistically there isn't any value to a site that just spouts conspiracies and fake news. I think it would be a good idea if mods worked out a system on what sort of politically related deals are allowed and could reference something like MBFC to determine what is suitable.
It is a bit difficult especially since the Daily Wire isn't an Australian source so I'm sort of fence sitting. Maybe it should be allowed so long as all news subscriptions that have a basic level of credibility is allowed. Mods just need to think of some sort of criteria as to what constitutes news subs as deals.
@JD9151: A lot of people are entertained by conspiracies of all kinds. If they are bargain, just let people decide for themselves.
@JD9151: If nothing else, InfoWars (and Alex Jones, in particular) is entertaining. Definitely not a news source, but entertainment.
But this is the big issue now; deplatforming.
The left has already campaigned to have every conceivable income source removed from people like Jones, and they often do the same with The Daily Wire. Which is why people subscribe.
Whether you see the value in it or not, often the best way for fans to ensure the survival of a show is to put their money where their mouth is.
@grayadamson: A favourite of mine:
Alex Jones Rants as an Indie Folk Song
https://youtu.be/KGAAhzreGWw
looking at the Democratic party in the US, it does provide evidence that the Left has shifted. The evidence does suggest that left have moved left while the right have largely remained consistent.
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/02/02/the-democ…
good'ol gender-pronouns, where the top 3 are she, he, apche attack-helicopter, what a time to be alive
Lol.
I find it interesting that the comments with the most negs are those that are providing their own opinion that this deal is not a good deal. The ones negging are the ones defending ‘freedom of speech’ - ironic as a neg on a comment goes towards minimising, and thus, censoring it.
Your irony is misplaced. Disagreement does not equal censorship.
I am sure you don't mean to suggest that users should not neg comments with which they disagree - isn't that the purpose of the comment neg button?
A neg vote is expression - albeit anonymous.
Instead this sounds like an argument against the ability to neg any votes at all.
The single most negged comment on this thread simply refers to Shapiro as a right-wing nut. Not sure that’s a comment on the quality of the deal. In fact the majority of the negative comments are less related to the actual deal than they are to their perception of the company offering it.
LOL oh boy politics on the ozb deals is gonna be popcorn worthy
indeed, I recall when the Gay marriage vote was happening, entire threads would run wild and get shut-down
Nice deal.
Funny how so many people get offended by this.
Relax folks.
Relax gang!
For a second I was thinking 'no please dont tell me someone uploaded a video of Ben Shapiro to Pornhub.
…Then I remembered that he use be a virgin still.