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Where did I say the only reason people go is to climb the rock?
I said I can't remember the last time I paid $200 to climb a rock. I also said if you are happy to pay $200 to go climb a rock…better do it quick.
You're implying that it's ridiculous to pay $200 to climb a rock - Uluru is not just a rock - and if you cant work what your sentence implies then I suggest thinking more before you write.
@dengziyi: I's a rock! A mountain is just a mountain. A waterfall a waterfall. If you want to imply they are more than that then that is fine…but at the crux…these are just what they are.
And my comment was implicit in what it meant. What you want to read into something is entirely up to you. That's your beef. My sentence meant how it read.
Why would you tell people to climb it?
Dont climb the rock FFS !!! Its disrespectful to the indigenous mob. Its like climbing atop church/mosque/temple. I can understand, it may be hard to understand for a few people.
For people who dont understand the local culture, imagine someone jumping/partying/sleeping/pissing on the grave of someone you loved - the person can say, its just a bloody grave that at best has a skeleton in it - I am not hurting anyone how can this be wrong ? Do you see how offensive someone climbing Uluru seems to be to the native mob?
I understand what you're saying. I just call BS.
well said. Bit shocked I had to scroll so far down to find a comment with common sense and basic decency.
It's nothing like climbing on a church or temple - those are man made structures built for a purpose. Uluru wasn't built, it's existed for millions of years before humans arrived. It has no purpose unless you apply politics.
Rock aside, is there anything else to do in Uluru?
u can ride a camel at uluru camel tours,
also kata tjuta valley of the winds walk was spectacular
You can also observe all the roo carcasses from your nifty air conditioned bus on the side of the road whilst whizzing up to and from it.
All jokes aside tenting there is amazing and what Zfan111222 suggested. It's not for everyone though.
There are millions of flies
EXPIRED!
Went to have a shower, came back and the cheapest price is now $344 from melbourne, and I'd have to stay 60 days.
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EDIT: SkyScanner is still showing the $200 flight from 3rd SEP to 5th SEP
Welcome to OzBogan !!
(Going on some of the insensitive comments in this thread!)
There's no book that says how sacred Uluru is. It is whatever the local native title holders say. Lots of things have Dreamtime stories associated with them. They didn't use to say the rock was particularly significant, so a tourist industry was built around climbing it. Now they say it is and that should stop.
We'll found out how sacred it was after October when climbing the rock is banned, tourist numbers drop precipitously, and the tourist resort looks like going under with the loss of lots of jobs, half of them Aboriginal. If they say that the climbing stays banned we'll know it really is sacred. If they start talking about re-opening the rock for climbing we'll know it isn't.
Yeah and the other half of Alice Springs will be on the dole, the bottle shop owners will be happy.
You're aware that Alice Springs is nearly 500km away from Uluru, right?
I can safely tell you that no one is doing that commute daily for work and the employment market in Yulara has nothing to do with Alice Springs.
It's taken over 30 years to get to this point following the handing back of Uluru to the traditional owners. I seriously doubt that they're going to backflip as a result of a few people choosing not to travel there.
If you need to climb on top of something and take in some views while in the area, I'd suggest heading a short distance down the road and doing the Valley of the Winds walk at Kata Tjuta.
Money does strange things.
It sure does. One example is creating a tourism industry around a culturally insensitive practice.
So is accommodation going to be cheaper cos no one is staying there later or even more expensive because they need to make up the loss per visitor that still goes?
Even if tourism doesn't "tank", they still need to make up the difference somehow.
The current percentage of visitors who choose to climb the rock is purportedly around 16%.
No details on what percentage of that 16% would still visit despite not being able to climb.
Financially the resort has been a basket case for some time now. I don't think a few less people visiting as a result of not being able to climb is going to make the situation much worse.
No, its not that only 16% CHOSE to climb the rock, its that only 16% DID climb the rock. The people who didn't didn't for a whole range of reasons. Because of the signs asking them not to. Because they saw how arduous the climb was. Because the climb was closed because it was raining, or windy, or hot, or whatever else. A lot more than 16% of the people who went there did so because they intended to climb the rock. They are the ones who simply won't even plan to go there in the future because they know with 100% certainty that there won't even be the possibility of climbing the rock.
So what, in your estimation, is the percentage of people who want to climb the rock?
If you make your guess public then we can revisit these stats into the future and work out whether visitor numbers have varied considerably as a result of the climbing ban.
Ahh…and how many people came along with someone that wanted to climb?
The stats can say whatever you want them to say. Give it 5 years and if the number of visitors are still high
1990 - 70% attempted the climb.
2010 - 30% attempted the climb.
2017 - 20% attempted the climb.
The most likely reason? I'd say because a majority of people aren't pricks and will abstain from doing something culturally insensitive if they're made aware of it. The push to make activities other than climbing available and education about what climbing represented for the traditional owners ramped up after 1990.
https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/bj5xn8/the-strange-sad-hi…
@Pantagonist: Great quote in that link "There’s a reason why all the famous photographs of Uluru are taken from a distance—it’s much more magnificent from the ground."
It's sad that you think the only reason why people go is to climb it.
More than just a rock, it is a beautiful and unique place.