Toyota RAV4 (2019) Discussion Thread

Just wondering if anyone else is looking forward to the new 2019 - RAV4?

Looks to be a very solid release and easily the best iteration of the RAV4 to date - especially the hybrid options.

With the impending release / availability later this month? thought there may be others in the same boat or at the very least interested.

I am aware that there is not much information of the Australian variants (model names / badges, pricing etc.) as of yet - but I really do hope we get an equivalent of the XSE (North America).

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        • +1

          Ah okay, well the accessories are far from free then. Dealer just uses the additional margin with the accessories to keep a reasonable profit.

          • @PinzVidz: I heard that the waiting time would be 6 months for all orders starting from mid June onwards.

    • Confirmed delivery date 26th Sep. Total of 4 months wait time

      • No one can confirm that far out. I've got customers with July builds, but we don't know if they will push back to August at this stage.

        • Oh.. thanks mate. so I should not trust that estimated delivery date mentioned in the contract?

  • Just wondering if @Spackbace can confirm (or anyone else) if Miracast actually works?

    I have not been able to toggle it on or get it working.

    • Lol I need to mess around with this myself actually

      • I tried with both iPhone and Android phones but neither seemed to work for some reason

  • If anyone confirm does the car really need outdoor and indoor protection and windows tinting? My dealer has quoted $ 2300 for both. Is it really worth to spend?

    Thanks

    • +1

      It really is up to you if you would like to get those done - but having said that it might be cheaper to get it done outside of the dealership.

      Which model did you go for?

      • Thanks mate, I ordered Cruiser 2WD Hybrid

        • oh nice, congrats.

          What colour did you choose?

          Check places like Tint a Car for packages.

          Tint A Car

          Looks like they have a paint protection and tinting deal at the moment.

          Indoor protection, you could always get something like scotch guard and spray the floors and carpets your self.

          • @vin23: Thanks mate! the colour is Sky Silver.

            Appreciated your suggestions..

          • @vin23: Could you share a link for this deal? Can't seem to find it as a package deal, not sure if it's localized - even if it is I'll see if my local will match :)

    • +1

      Definitely cheaper to get it done elsewhere.. This is where dealerships cream in $$ is.

      • +1

        Thanks mate

  • +1

    Got a deal from my dealer for paint protection, interior protection and window tinting for $950. Comes with life time warranty. Can someone confirm is it good deal?

    • From the original $2300 you mentioned (without tint?) .. to $950 that's a big discount.

      It really depends if you want it done by the dealer before you pick up the car OR you organise for it to be done after you pick up the car by a third party.

      There would be pros and cons for both options, but at the end of the day its your decision.

    • That is a pretty good deal… I asked for a discount but didn't get one. A bit of checking around showed I could get the work done elsewhere cheaper.

      Dealership also quoted me about $250 to detail the car before applying the external armor, if I chose to go back to them to get it done after I'd picked the car up. Planning on shopping around for a deal, I might check out that Tint-A-Car package - although it'd be hard to secure the deal as apparently I might not be seeing my Rav4 until September sometime, frustratingly

      • For my car, delivery time would be around Sep, 4 month waiting time. The protection package including windows tint, interior (seat) protection, carpet protection and external protection. All will be done when the car delivered.

    • @kuiku just an FYI I actually went with the dealer as well, as I wanted it to be all done and ready upon pick-up - more convenience of not having to do anything extra lol.

      But I will say, your deal is a lot better than what I got and it didnt come with any interior protection, so your one is really good.

      @Sekhmet114 See if you can book it in with Tint-A-Car or ask if you can pay a deposit and then pay the remaining on completion - most importantly get an invoice showing the package deal price.

      • @Vin23 - thanks mate. my dealer told me that protection will be done when the car delivered. The protection comes with life time warranty so I can go back to the dealer if any issue regardless of manufacturing defect or protection defect. And the price off course all for $ 950!

        Finally a big relief !!! Just sit back and wait for delivery.

        • Hmm, who is the dealer using for doing that stuff. Which company for protection?
          Also which dealer you getting your rav 4 from?

  • I spoke to ex Toyota dealer's mechanic, he said that its waste of money as exterior and interior protections are not required for modern cars. Because the painting get treated at factory.

    Now I am bit confusing whether I would spend $950 for protection or just keep wax the car once a every couple of months.

    • Protection is largely a gimmick.

  • Seems as though RAV4 prices have gone up by a few hundred bucks in the last month.

    • On the website or at the dealerships?

    • List price hasn't changed so that's unlikely.

      Make sure you have your state on there for accurate stamp duty figures, as that changes with each state.

  • On the website. I haven't checked the dealer yet.

  • Had the same dealership online when I checked.

    • Indeed, we ordered an 'in-stock' RAV4 2019 Hybrid GXL 2WD on June 19th in Sydney region, it is now ready for delivery but blocked by TMCA due to temporary sales halt. I have final VIN but not sure on ETA. Thanks to all commenting on this thread and specifically @Spackbace for his valuable contributions.
      All the best to future purchasers!

  • Spack, are you able to shed any light on the sales stop for the hybrids?

    • +1

      No, I actually only found out due to someone on this forum pm-ing me, then checked with management who had heard about it.

      Reportedly only a handful of them, and it's only stopping delivery of them (so cars that are here now that need to be checked out). As to the issue itself, only what I've heard in the media. Given that it's a small sample pool and there's no official recall, guessing they're trying to keep it on the down low?

      But we're still selling them. Hasn't stopped us taking orders on them

      • +2

        Thank you for the update.

    • its not a sales stop at all. So I paid deposit, then I asked what happened. THe sales then asked the Mgr.

      2 days later, they did a check of my vehicle (as I was only interested in buying whatever was in stock)

      They said my vehicle was not affected. So that's that.

      I dont know what this Sales Stop is , none of the sales are "stopping" during EOFY. The articles on the web dont seem to be correct. If it was a sales stop, they should've refunded me my $1k. Instead, I got my car as I normally would've.

  • I received a delivery date from dealer yesterday. I am not sure how could dealer provides a delivery date if production halt?

    • As said above, no one can confirm a September delivery date. Your car wouldn't even have been built yet so there's no way to guarantee that far out

  • Hi Spackbace, Do you have any idea what is the current waiting time for the 2019 RAV 4 Hybrid orders ? If I put an order today how long does it take. Thanks

    • I'm telling Guests around November to be on the safe side. Realistically if you wait till July to order, I'd say 'by Christmas'.

      Better to err on the side of caution than to tell you 3 months and it blows out

      • Hopefully those that have taken up the $500 MyToyota offer can still get their RAV4 delivered before 31 December.

      • Geez!. This would have to be costing at least some sales wouldn’t it?

        • Not many

          Not many options if you want a hybrid SUV

  • +1

    Hi All,

    Bought this car around June 15th, picked up the car a few days ago. Got the GX Hybrid in Eclectic blue with towbar, floor mat and trunk mat, $37,750 drive away. Probably coulda haggled a bit more, I didnt haggle at all. I just gave them a "win price" and it passed 1st go.

    Tested a short drive around my area , suburban hilly streets, can get 5.2L/100km if i drove like a grandma with people tailgating me and getting ECO score of 90+ out of 100 as per the driver console display.

    Then I tried driving like a goon in sport mode and got about 9.2L/100km :-)

    Here's my review of the Car with info from a average person as opposed to professional reviewer.
    - Lane keep assist is pretty cool, stepping on a lane and the steering wheel moves me back into position on a freeway. Haven't tried dynamic cruise control yet.
    - Front and rear sensors are awesome as well on base model GX.
    - Door handle position from inside annoys me a bit, I didnt notice this but the door handle is very close to the door hinge, so you need to exert greater force if you want to open door from inside using door handle.
    - There are 3 cigarette lighters in the GX, each providing 12V / 120W, this is more than enough to convert into multiple USB ports. Not a big deal like the reviewers in AU have made it to be. Since each cig lighter can easily supply 2 x 2A connections needed for decent fast charge on phones and tablets.
    - The GX hybrid has 160kW of power… not many cars with 160kW for $37k!! Accelerates from 0-100km/h in just under 8 seconds. Beats most of the usual competitor and loses to CX5 2.5L Turbo which is much more expensive and fuel hungry.
    - The headroom is surprisingly , not that much even though I dont have sunroof. I am 5 foot 11. Sure I can lower the driver seat, but then I dont feel like I have good visibility?? I am comparing this against the new Honda CRV.
    - I didnt get Paint protection, but I'm going to DIY with cheap ceramic coating ($10 on Ebay) and once I am done practicing with this cheap stuff, I will probably get the expensive stuff. Having water glide off your paint is worth it to me…. but not $1000 bucks, might as well take it to the car wash 20 times for that money.
    - I didnt test sound system properly during test drive, to me its surprisingly good. I am sorta fussy with sound. Exceeded all expectations with bass.
    - GPS navigation app built in is decent. Voice recognition is crap…. compared to Google voice recognition.
    - Dual zone climate control seem gimmicky… pointless so far.
    - Ability for the center console to play AVI, MP4 movie files whilst car is stationary via a USB stick was pretty unexpected.
    - Toyota Link App is pretty garbage
    - The car is very quiet… the reviews said there was noise on freeway. I didnt really notice.
    - The plastic trim on the car itself… is a bit flimsy… i wonder if that black strip of plastic across the back part of the car will last 10 yrs? Loose and flappy already. I thought it was broken until i checked the other side. (same thing)

    Happy shopping.

    • The headroom is surprisingly , not that much even though I dont have sunroof. I am 5 foot 11. Sure I can lower the driver seat, but then I dont feel like I have good visibility?? I am comparing this against the new Honda CRV.

      I'm 6'3 and find it has ample, though I lower the seat on every car to a comfortable position and visibility is a non-issue. That's what I'm used to doing on every car tho so maybe you just need to adjust your position and give it some time to get used to.

      • I wouldnt say visibility is an "issue", I didnt check the windscreen height if such a metric exists to see if its actually a bigger windscreen. CRV feels roomier , its more "square", more practical but without the aggressive look of the RAV4.

        For reference: prior to this, drove a 12 yr old camry.

  • Hi everyone,

    Have put a down payment for GXL hybrid silver today. Got it for $40k + $500 fuel voucher from Toyota App, and all weather floor mats. Tried to push for tint for the front but they won't budge. Lots of haggling and the manager has to intervene few times and I almost walked away. Thanks to people who shared their experiences. Was able to use pricing ideas from here.

    • out of curiosity, what made you want to pay more for the GXL instead of GX?

      • I'd do the same thing if I was buying, though we've actually had a lot of customers just straight up opting for the Cruiser.

        Vinyl steering wheels bug me, and keyless entry and wireless phone charging are huge pluses

      • Its more on how the car looks having roof rails and better alloy wheels. I know if the GX alloy wheels starts to bother me, I'm going to end up getting a better set of alloy wheels which would cost nearly the amount to upgrate from GX to GXL. The keyless entry helped as well because we have 2 kids and always struggle holding the kids and getting the key out from my pocket.

        @mutz Btw, I based my negotiating price from your post. Thanks!

        • good that the info i provided was of use! tx for your reply.

    • Hi Kurt,

      That sounds like a good price. Can you PM me the dealers details if possible. Thanks.

  • @ Kurt ; what is your estimated delivery date?
    @ Spackbace ; I have put an order for a Hybrid Cruiser but forgot to mention the"Toyota app" deal ; can I do it now ?
    Thanks

    • @captcha EDD 1/9/2019. Hope you can still get the Toyota app promo

    • If it's the fuel card, tell them asap but it shouldn't be too late to change

  • I got my Cruiser Hybrid AWD since 1/6/19. I only clocked 100km to date.
    Good acceleration and quiet. Soft suspension. I prefer this over CX5 Turbo.
    Fit & finish does not equal to many "Made in Japan" ones that I have previously owned. e.g uneven tail gate spoiler gap…
    Only roof, doors, hood are made of steel - all the rest are plastic/fibreglass!

    • my doors are uneven… its weird… as in the front 2 doors are slightly higher than the 2 rear doors.

      The plastics are flimsy!!

  • +1

    Hello,

    Keen to see what prices people are getting over here in Perth.

    I was quoted a Crystal Pearl Petrol GXL with floor mats and tank of petrol for $38,500 driveaway.

    How does this stack up with what others are getting?

    • Guessing that was the 2.0L 2WD non-hybrid?

      • yes, that's the non-hybrid

  • We have recently moved to the WA Pilbara and looking to offload the wife's VF2 wagon due to the lack of ground clearance.

    The wife is quite keen on the new RAV4, but I am undecided if the Hybrid AWD Cruiser or AWD Edge would be better suited for the long distance highway driving that we will do. What sort of real world highway fuel usage are people seeing from their AWD hybrids? I am specifically torn between fuel saving of the Hybrid and the "real" transmission in the Edge. I am not overly concerned with offroad capabilities as a modded Prado with a drinking problem has that covered…

    @Spackbace (or anyone else in the know), are Toyota dealers offering better discounts on the Petrol Edge due to popularity of the Hybrid? Unfortunately the 3 local dealers (if you call 500kms away local) are all owned by the same company so I think my negotiating options will be pretty limited…

    • @Spackbace (or anyone else in the know), are Toyota dealers offering better discounts on the Petrol Edge due to popularity of the Hybrid? Unfortunately the 3 local dealers (if you call 500kms away local) are all owned by the same company so I think my negotiating options will be pretty limited…

      Likely can offer a bigger discount on an Edge, but it's a more expensive car in the first place.

      The Edge might be a better car for you I think but depends on what you prefer as the Edge has unique styling on the interior

      • Thanks for the reply Spackbace. I actually prefer the styling (and transmission and cooled seats) of the Edge more than the Hybrid, when I test drove a RAV4 at release, it was a Jungle Kahki Edge which is our second preference colour behind Glacier White (no metallics or pearls for me). I haven't actually driven a hybrid yet. While I prefer the Edge, I would still take the Hybrid if fuel savings were significant for highway use, if both are on par, choosing the Edge would be a no-brainer.

        • +1

          Honestly I haven't driven a hybrid over purely highway trips to be able to help your decision, but given you prefer the design and features of the Edge I'd say that's going to help your decision.

          Plus quicker delivery time. Hybrid you'll get around Christmas!

          Hit up your locals for a price on the Edge, lemme know how you go and I'll let you know if we can do anything sharper.
          Rural dealers have their transport covered by Toyota so they can sell for the same price we can, just depends on whether they want to

          • @spackbace: I get better scores traveling on highways in my hybrid corolla. Which I find strange since people said it won’t be like that. Maybe I am wrong but my long drives including highways are better l/100km…
            The best are medium lengths I think…ummm not short not long…maybe more than 10km to 30km or more? I kind of cheat and use assisted cruise control maybe.

            • +1

              @Stargazer5: Yes, I've found the same with my RAV4.
              Perhaps the theory is a legacy one, and no longer valid for the current generation.

  • Sales stop finally lifted. Handful of RAV4 and other Toyota hybrids recalled.

    • Still didnt stop us selling them, or other dealers. Just meant those cars that were affected got held up. We only had 3 affected

  • +1

    Picked my Cruiser 2.0 petrol up today. Very happy, although it took me ages to find the setting to turn off the nagging voice when I sped slightly or approached a school zone.

  • I really liked the new model toyota corolla 2019 models. Their new sporty look is really nice. Though i did not like the size of it as i like the big cars more. But new different colour combination and innovative sporty look is very appealing. The driving is always cool for toyota.

  • Any update on delivery time frame? Ordered on 3rd June but no production update??

    • I also ordered mine in June, initially told August production and September delivery but now yesterday i was told October production and possible November delivery.
      I believe production was stopped since they found the brake issue, hence this delay.

      • I have a plan to discuss with dealer about delivery time. Let see how is going.

        Thanks Dave.

      • Same status here. Mine expected to deliver by Nov. Ordered on 3rd June

    • I sold 1 on the 19th June, it might be in the September production run, arrive in October
      I sold 1 on 29th May, should be in the September production run, arrive in October

      Only thing that's a guarantee are the August produced vehicles currently, September vehicles haven't been allocated

      • Can I cancel the order if not delivered by delivery date?

        Thanks

        • I'm sure you could, but moreso why would you? Nothing else compares, and if you buy from another dealer you'll be up for more of a wait.

          What month are they telling you for yours to get built?

          • @spackbace: Hi, build would be October. My order is AW list .

            • @kuikui: Oooh that's a bit rough with October, but does depend on how busy your dealership has been

              • @spackbace: Oh ok. Can I ask dealer to cancel my order if not delivered within quoted delivery date?

                Thanks mate

                • @kuikui: Yeah you can, and I doubt they'd care as they'd have a customer lined up who'd be happy to get one asap.

                  What would you get if it wasn't the RAV?

                  • @spackbace: Not decided yet :) need a car be September

                    • @kuikui: I am in the same boat, i am considering Subaru forester but downside is fuel economy(10-11L/100km).
                      Compared to Rav4 awd it saves you 4-5k at least which can go towards fuel, as you might spend roughly $500 a year for extra fuel if driven 12000km/year.

                  • @spackbace: what about August 2wd Hybrid contract, will it be possible delivered end of December?

                    • @jjj123: I don't have a crystal ball, I'm not prepared to give you a guarantee.

                      I'm going to guess that you'd be lucky to see it by the end of the year tho there's a chance

                      • @spackbace: Thanks, Spackbace.

                        Another question, how do you if you order a gx hybrid with Sat Nav or without Sav Nav, contract does not mention Sat Nav words, i assume it should all come as Sav Nav standard? but by cost on the contract is $35,140 plus on roads.

                        • +1

                          @jjj123: Comes standard with Sat-Nav, only option code would be to deduct it, which would be shown on the contract.

                  • @spackbace: if it has six months waiting time on a hybrid, which is next March, i think you can negotiate a better price next year.

                    • +1

                      @jjj123: Why?

                      If you put the order in now, it's 4-6 months. If you order in march, it might still be 3 months from then, minimum!

                      • @spackbace: Only thing that's a guarantee are the August produced vehicles currently, September vehicles haven't been allocated

                        what does this mean?

                        Which month of Australian customers' order will be on August production?

                        • @jjj123: There is no set method

                          August production has already happened, September production should be allocated around now

              • @spackbace: Hi Spackbace,

                Who is the person to talk to apply the toyota customer ordering system code and password?

                It looks like my sales has no idea of this.

                Thanks.

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