Toyota RAV4 (2019) Discussion Thread

Lvin23 on 01/05/2019 - 15:43

Just wondering if anyone else is looking forward to the new 2019 - RAV4?

Looks to be a very solid release and easily the best iteration of the RAV4 to date - especially the hybrid options.

With the impending release / availability later this month? thought there may be others in the same boat or at the very least interested.

I am aware that there is not much information of the Australian variants (model names / badges, pricing etc.) as of yet - but I really do hope we get an equivalent of the XSE (North America).

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        • Viper8 on 09/05/2019 - 14:45

          Yea, hence why I said "…or want better acceleration." and "For me the better argument to buy the hybrid is for the extra power and torque on offer."

  • Orkstomper on 09/05/2019 - 14:23

    Actually, don’t te hybrids get the lower grade projector headlights, regardless of specification with the FWD petrol only getting the same headlights as the edge?

    • JayTeeHaitch on 09/05/2019 - 15:01

      Yeah, it was just pointed out to me that the hybrids have the projector LED and the petrol have the parabolic LED with auto height adjust. I don't know what the difference is, I just assumed the ones on the hybrid were better because it added other things. I'd be interested to know what the difference is, @Spackbace?

      • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 09/05/2019 - 15:08
        +3

        I feel like I'm learning more about this car with each day lol besides the hybrid DRL's looking better, I need to find out about the exact details on the headlights.
        Have training on these tomorrow morning so I'll be able to find out the more technical stuff then :)

        • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 10/05/2019 - 14:56
          +1

          Ok so it's bi-led vs parabolic. Supposedly both have the same functionality but the hybrid headlights allow them to look better, which they definitely do in person.

          Sorry best I've got for that answer!

  • vxm on 10/05/2019 - 11:03
    +1

    Any manage to get a good drive away prices?

    • Viper8 on 10/05/2019 - 15:49

      Never going to happen the first couple of months from release.

  • vin23 on 10/05/2019 - 16:07
    +1

    I wonder how much the accessories are - main site doesn't give much info pricing wise.

  • vin23 on 11/05/2019 - 23:45

    Was at Toyota today and was advised that Car Play and Android Auto will be retrofitted around October - but only free of charge for customers who purchase in the first 3? months of release.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 12/05/2019 - 00:35

      I haven't heard anything about a timeframe.

      We'd be in shit if we didn't give everyone the upgrade for free until it's built into the car

      • vin23 on 12/05/2019 - 00:42

        I may have heard wrong but I do recall the sales manager said it would usually be chargeable - maybe he meant in general?

        But he did definitely say by October customers will be contacted regarding the upgrade.

        I kept asking about Car Play hence why he caved and provided the information.

        It felt like 80% of the people that were at the dealership at the same time were all looking at the RAV 4.

        • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 12/05/2019 - 01:01
          +2

          It will be a cost in other models that don't have it like Camry and Corolla, but free on RAV4.

          Not sure why he wouldn't mention it, it's a good thing to mention to stop a customer going a competitor brand.

          And yeah we've been busy since Wednesday with enquiry!

          I took a GXL hybrid 2wd over the weekend 😉

          • pegaxs on 16/05/2019 - 08:13
            +1

            @spackbace:

            It will be a cost in other models that don't have it like Camry and Corolla, but free on RAV4.

            FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *rage_meme.jpg*

  • Cowspanker on 12/05/2019 - 15:46

    Someone in the Whirlpool thread claimed they got a plain white Cruiser for $42K - $4K off. I emailed around Sydney dealers this weekend. I got offered $800 discount on cruiser from one dealer. That’s without negotiation.

    • drbunny13 on 12/05/2019 - 16:39

      You wont get much discount by emailing. You need to be at the dealership and show your serious about buying.

      • Cowspanker on 13/05/2019 - 19:23

        Exactly. $800 without negotiating. So there is more room to move.

  • drbunny13 on 12/05/2019 - 16:38
    +2

    Got offered 43K cruiser hybrid FWD. NSW dealer in Western Sydney.

    • Tino on 13/05/2019 - 11:37

      Was this price for metallic paint and can you tell me which suburb this dealer is in? Thank you.

      • drbunny13 on 16/05/2019 - 18:13
        +1

        Yes including metallic paint. Only the white is non metallic you can choose. All other colours you pay extra. That is at Guilford. Also got offered at Warwick farm and Parramatta.

  • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 12/05/2019 - 20:45
    +2

    Fwiw I had the GXL 2wd hybrid over the weekend. It averaged around 5.1L/100km overall. It was at 4.7 but I did some freeway/highway driving which uses the petrol engine more.

    Still, that's damn good if you had it as your everyday drive!

  • Viper8 on 13/05/2019 - 10:22
    +2

    Went and walked through every top 10 manufacturer car yard yesterday looking at medium SUV's; the new Rav4 doesn't look any near as truck-like in the flesh. Pretty happy with the styling.

  • chan1 on 14/05/2019 - 21:45

    Is anyone got good discount in Adelaide?? I only got 200$ discount from all three City dealers.

  • vin23 on 15/05/2019 - 15:34

    I was interested in the Cruiser AWD hybrid in Crystal Pearl (black interior) - but apparently was told there is a long wait / delay.

    The earliest delivery date they can see is around June 30

    There does seem to be a fair few 2WD hybrid Cruisers in a variety of colours though.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 15/05/2019 - 18:48
      -1

      To be expected really if you didn't jump in the first few days, such is the popularity.

      • vin23 on 16/05/2019 - 09:56

        I overheard one of the other sales people saying that Toyota (Head Office) are monitoring the sales in the first 3? months to see interest and demand - of current pricing structure

        Then may most likely alter the pricing, as in increase the current prices and then test the waters to see what the interest and demand is like.

        Supply and demand so to speak, demand is definitely outweighing supply it seems - well for the Cruiser AWD thats for sure.

        Have put down a deposit, now its a waiting game.

        @Spackbace just wondering, the genuine accessories the prices should be the same across the board for all dealerships?

        • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 10:18
          -1

          I doubt they'd increase RRP, it would be the worst thing for the brand. They're trying to get to #1 with this car and beat Mazda, something they haven't done for a while.

          It should be yes

        • drbunny13 on 16/05/2019 - 18:15

          They didnt give you any accessories? What price did you end up paying?

  • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2019 - 00:36

    Hey Spack, does the RAV4 have fixed price servicing? What's the rough cost?

    And any view on how much a hitch would be to install?

    • PinzVidz on 16/05/2019 - 00:49
      +2

      I'll answer the first question, yes, $210, every 12 months or 15K, up to 5 years/75K.

      I'll leave Spack to quote on tow bar/wiring.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 01:20
      +1

      Have an rdo tomorrow so I'll check Friday but from memory it's in the $850 mark

      • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2019 - 07:51

        Thank you both. Now trying to decide between the Edge and Cruiser.. both seem so nice but the Edge gets a bit pricey and is only Petrol.

        By the way loving the wireless charging Pad. How neat.

        • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 09:00
          -1

          I'd go the hybrid cruiser myself but I do understand the appeal of the edge if you're going off the bitumen

          • vin23 on 17/05/2019 - 14:24

            @spackbace: @Spackbace just wondering - as i have been given conflicting information.

            Do any of the new Rav4's come with the scuff guards / door sill protectors standard?

  • kuikui on 16/05/2019 - 09:28

    Is anyone got decent discount in Brisbane? Tnks

  • itonez on 16/05/2019 - 12:32
    +1

    42.5k 2WD Cruiser Hybrid Auto. Red, mats, bootliner, scruff and shield guard. Drive away.

    Few dealers even offered lower but didn't have the colour i wanted.

    NSW

    • phocus on 16/05/2019 - 12:34
      +2

      I would jump on that price if a Melbourne dealer had simillar

      • itonez on 16/05/2019 - 12:39
        +2

        Not sure what's Melbourne like but definitely go around and stay firm to your goals.
        I went to at least 4 dealers.

        Initially wanted 40-42.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 12:40

      We wouldn't do a deal for that, we'd let you walk

      Very surprising that NSW are carving these cars. I can see hybrids having a decent wait time soon

      • itonez on 16/05/2019 - 12:45

        Walk then they call back next day.

        • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 12:52

          Doesn't matter, we won't be calling back at that price, that's what I'm saying

          And I've said before that we don't do that. We either sign off while you're there or let you walk, there's no calls the next day with us on our knees.

          We just wouldn't do that deal. Simples

          • drbunny13 on 16/05/2019 - 18:26
            +3

            @spackbace: You may not call tomorrow but you will call at the end of the month or when your boss get anxious when the car sit for awhile. Dont expect you to be on your knees, just a fair price. No call No sale, $43k stay in my pocket and not paying your bonus.

            • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 18:39
              +1

              @drbunny13: No, we won't.

              Stats say that if you're prepared to put in a written offer today, you'll be out of the market after a week or so. You'll go elsewhere, get dicked around and end up increasing your offer just so you don't have to keep playing this game. You won't go back to the first dealer with your increased offer as you just want to save face.

              If you're a customer of mine, you're getting a call every few days until you buy. Don't think I'm letting you go ghost until the end of the month.

              Deals get done on the day or they don't get done at all. We all have kpis to hit and we act on that daily.

              These cars aren't old stock any time soon, and we'll struggle to keep waiting times low.

              Each dealer has limited numbers they can order and that includes sold cars. Would you rather your order book was full of minimum deals or decent deals?

              As I said, $43k won't be done at my dealership. I know that no manager would sign off on it. And I wouldn't be upset that they wouldn't.

              • drbunny13 on 16/05/2019 - 19:07

                @spackbace: Who would Toyota give more stock to? The dealer who move more units or dealer who sold little? Please let me know what dealership you from. Since from consumer perspective your dealership will not be best bang for buck for my money.

                • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 19:14

                  @drbunny13: Allocations aren't based on the prior months sales, it's based on the prior year.

                  Nah no need, go to your local and see if they wanna do a deal for minimum commission. Some do, some value their time better.

                  Given the average sale/delivery process can be in the region of 4hrs, you try to make sure you're making more than $100 before tax for that customer. Doesn't affect how we treat you of course but does justify our time.

                  • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 16/05/2019 - 20:49
                    +2

                    @spackbace: Lol @ the neg votes just because I'm being honest.

                    If someone doesn't agree with me, use your words, don't hide behind meaningless comment votes 😂

                  • drbunny13 on 21/05/2019 - 00:10
                    +1

                    @spackbace: All good went to my local got RAV4 2019 FWD hybrid cruiser Black 42.5K. NSW.

  • Viper8 on 16/05/2019 - 15:17

    We still expecting media reviews out tomorrow?

    • PinzVidz on 17/05/2019 - 00:49

      CA has their review up.

      • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 17/05/2019 - 15:45
        -1

        It's interesting what forms negative points now. "Just 1 USB point" instead of anything about design/power/handling/safety lol

        • PinzVidz on 17/05/2019 - 16:10
          +1

          Normal for car journos. In the video at about 5:07, he says "GLX". lol.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 17/05/2019 - 11:24
      +2

      Motoring.com.au - 85/100
      News.com.au - 4/5
      Practical Motoring - 4/5
      Carsguide - 83/100

  • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2019 - 20:30
    +1

    Nope.

  • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 17/05/2019 - 22:16
    +1

    On a side note, these cars are going crazy and no one has a bad thing to say about them after test driving. Everyone is pleasantly surprised I think would be the best term

    • kuikui on 20/05/2019 - 14:03

      Can I buy Cruiser without Tilt and slide moon roof?

      • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 20/05/2019 - 14:04

        No

        • kuikui on 20/05/2019 - 14:12

          thanks mate, I love all features in Cruiser except moon roof…

          • TheOneWhoKnocks on 21/05/2019 - 05:40
            +2

            @kuikui: That's the first time I've heard someone complain about the inclusion of a moon roof.

            • kuikui on 21/05/2019 - 07:48

              @TheOneWhoKnocks: I am not a fan of moon roof. But I really like Cruiser spec.I heard that moon roof become a problem during summer due to extreme hot. And the would a water leak on later days.

  • mmmbeer on 23/05/2019 - 11:48
    +1

    Any of you wise peoples have any idea of what the resale value would be with the hybrids? I’m looking at five years or so down the track, normal mileage (ie about 15K kms/yr), normal wear & tear and end of warranty period.

    The hybrid looks interesting but it’s less attractive if you pay a premium at purchase then later get towelled up with poor resale.

    TIA.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 23/05/2019 - 12:18

      To give you an idea of what Toyota will think of resale, go to the pricing section of the site, then the finance tab and it will calculate the GFV (Guaranteed Future Value) of the car. This is the minimum trade-in that Toyota believe the car will be worth in up to 4yrs time.

      I can assure you that hybrid will have the stronger resale out of the options. More than 90% of our RAV4 sales have been hybrid, leading to increased wait times.

    • ol mate on 27/05/2019 - 06:15

      Look at the 50 series Camry (2013 ish to 2017) - the hybrids are more expensive than the petrol (uber drivers love hybrids)

  • ph81 on 26/05/2019 - 22:28

    Any people here able to give an idea on their drive away price (I.e what you paid in total) for the Cruiser hybrid here in Brisbane? We have had a look, but not test drive and negotiating on price yet. Not on a rush to purchase, but possibly within 3 months.

    • PinzVidz on 26/05/2019 - 23:23
      +1

      Don't forget to give the regional dealers a go as well (eg. Beaudesert), they always like to "pump out" to other dealers' PMAs and do some pretty sharp deals.

    • vin23 on 27/05/2019 - 12:39
      +1

      not sure what stock is like in Brisbane but here in NSW there is a 4 month wait for a lot of the AWD hybrid versions

  • vin23 on 27/05/2019 - 12:37
    +3

    Picked up my Rav 4 Hybrid today and the drive home was great.

    The sound from the speakers is really clear and overall the features are spot on.

    Dealer re-confirmed that they will make contact by early to mid October for Apple Car Play and Android Auto

    • Glenningvalley on 27/05/2019 - 12:41

      Congrats, would love an update in a few weeks. what did you upgrade from?

  • AshB on 29/05/2019 - 17:04

    Can someone tell me what's the best price you have seen for 2WD hybrid cruisee in melbourne and where..?
    Best I've got is $45.5k with tow bar metallic paint and floor mats.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 29/05/2019 - 18:37

      That's a damn good deal, if you find cheaper it'll only be by a few hundred dollars.

    • grababargain on 29/05/2019 - 20:17

      43K from someone at Whirlpool
      https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/3q6qm219?p=32

      • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 29/05/2019 - 21:58

        No tow bar

        $43k is genuinely below cost. Has to be a fleet purchase, or an outright lie

        • AshB on 29/05/2019 - 23:06

          If 43k is real even without a tow bar, its $1500 lessor than mine.

          • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 29/05/2019 - 23:30

            @AshB: Yes but it's not a realistic target, it's a loss

      • AshB on 29/05/2019 - 23:09
        +1

        Had a look at this. But the guy doesn't reveal the place though..

        • vin23 on 30/05/2019 - 10:53

          The user doesn't relay any specifics either? like colour, extra accessories etc.

          I think the 45.5K you mentioned is a great deal, and it would be hard to get any better as it seems like the cars are very popular factoring in the waiting time for many hybrid versions.

          Also see if you can avail the Rav4 award bonus on the My Toyota app - $500 worth of fuel or $500 worth of accessories or Toyota Roadside Assist Plus for 5 years

          • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 30/05/2019 - 11:51
            +1

            @vin23: That's the problem with some prices on Whirlpool, it can make you feel like you're not getting a 'deal' if people post up bogus figures etc

            • vin23 on 30/05/2019 - 16:51

              @spackbace: That is a good point

              @Spackbace just wondering, can you confirm if there is a setting for the power side mirrors to open and close when you lock / unlock the car?

              • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 30/05/2019 - 16:52

                @vin23:

                just wondering, can you confirm if there is a setting for the power side mirrors to open and close when you lock / unlock the car?

                Unfortunately not, no

                • vin23 on 30/05/2019 - 17:11

                  @spackbace: ah ok, thanks

                  I have forgotten to press the button at times and when its already turned off i cant be bothered to start up to press lol

                  • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 30/05/2019 - 17:23

                    @vin23: Lol your mirrors can take a hit at both angles, it's not a big deal ;)

                • PinzVidz on 02/06/2019 - 11:42

                  @spackbace: Have you had a look in Techstream, Spack? If not available in Customisation, can easily be modded with changeover relays to fold mirrors when car locks.

  • jackwilk on 30/05/2019 - 13:12

    Any idea on performance of a new petrol a 2l engine fitted to petrol model, will it be the same snail as previous model RAV4 2l?
    I do 10k km a year, not sure if hybrid is worth the effort - I mean 3k extra for hybrid will break even in 4-5 years time for me.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 30/05/2019 - 13:43

      Has more power, better economy than the old one

      • jackwilk on 30/05/2019 - 13:56

        I would be happy if it was similar to old 2.5l in terms of power with better economy. New 2l is 8-9l / 100km city driving, not bad for such a heavy car.

        • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 30/05/2019 - 13:59

          Hybrid will give you more power and torque, so don't just look at fuel savings in the $3000 cost

      • PinzVidz on 02/06/2019 - 11:46
        +1

        Just to add to this, the 2.0L is the new gen Dynamic Force M20A-FKS, the 40 series 2.0L was the old 3ZR-FE. World's apart in engine technology.

  • chan1 on 30/05/2019 - 20:31

    I wonder, how long does it take to arrive the Toyota-Caltex eVoucher after purchase/delivery?

    • chan1 on 31/05/2019 - 19:54

      I received the voucher within 24 hours of delivery.

  • hgchaoren120 on 02/06/2019 - 20:51

    Got a 41k offer for GXL 2WD HYBIRD in Mel ?

    is that fine or i could get much better offer 、

    thx

    • vin23 on 03/06/2019 - 09:25

      @hgchaoren120 That's pretty good considering RRP is around $42,953

      I was reading on Whirlpool that Sydney City Toyota are not going below RRP for Hybrids given their demand.

      Not all dealerships will discount the same, so its hard to say - I think luck also plays a big part of it.

      Though you also have to take into account the huge demand for the hybrids which works more in favour with the dealerships. People are saying that there are up to 3 to 4 month waits for most hybrid models.

      This is just an assumption, but I think you may be able to get a better deal on a Petrol model as opposed to a hybrid.

      • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 04/06/2019 - 01:24

        This is just an assumption, but I think you may be able to get a better deal on a Petrol model as opposed to a hybrid.

        100%

  • Sekhmet114 on 03/06/2019 - 13:04

    So, jumping in this forum.

    I ordered a Crystal Pearl GXL AWD Hybrid for $44.6k; this about about ~3 weeks ago, and still no news or even a production month set. Bit frustrated, as I was hoping to be able to use it in winter (gets rough and dangerous around here)… I heard too due to the popularity of this model that an embargo has been put on it, so staff are unable to order one using their staff discount for some 6 months from release date.

    Does anyone have a reputable source or an article on the delays at the factory, and why this is? I'm not even sure if the factory is the one/s in Japan or Canada. Dealer has indicated there is 'factory delays' and could take up to 4 months, so am hoping this may be exaggerated… On the Toyota website it states there can be up to a 6-8 week wait for it, so I'll be very disappointed if it exceeds this time frame.

    • vin23 on 03/06/2019 - 13:24

      @Sekhmet114 Does it say anything on your contract regarding delivery?

      No source or article but many people have confirmed that dealers are saying there is a wait time of about 3 to 4 months for the hybrid models.

      I know my one was supposed to arrive June 30 (paid deposit May 11) but my dealer was able to locate stock from another dealership and I was able to pick it up last week.

      If your dealer can secure stock from another dealership then it could be earlier as well.

    • mmmbeer on 03/06/2019 - 14:40

      Don't know about the delays but from what I understand Australia will get Japanese made vehicles as the RHD models are made in Japan and the LHD are made in Canada.

    • Employeespackbace @ Toyota Australia on 04/06/2019 - 01:23

      and still no news or even a production month set.

      If you ordered in the first week it was on sale I'm surprised you didn't get one straight away.
      If it's a factory order it's likely about a June or July build on yours, with that timeframe.
      You likely do have a production date set. Either the salesman hasn't relayed it to you, or they're scared of promising 1 thing and it pushes out further.

      Does anyone have a reputable source or an article on the delays at the factory, and why this is?

      Because it's outselling the stocks available. Simple.

      Dealers have a select amount they can order each month, once an order fills up that then pushes their orders to the next month, and so on.
      Hence why it surprises me when dealers wanna fill up their order book with cars with little margin.

  • kuikui on 03/06/2019 - 18:35

    Ordered Cruiser 2WD Hybrid 43k includes 500 worth of free accessories . Waiting time to deliver aprox 3 months due to factory order.

    • PinzVidz on 04/06/2019 - 14:53

      500 worth of free accessories

      Do you mean the MyToyota offer?

      • kuikui on 04/06/2019 - 14:58

        This is my first purchase from Toyota, so I don't get $500 from MyToyota. It was hard to negotiate the price as Hybrid is on high demand and waiting time up to 3 months.

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