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Just bought this home surveillance DVR kit from eBay after searching for cheap deals. Seems really cheap for what you get. No idea on quality but should be ok for the price.
UL-TECH 4 Channel 1080P Home Surveillance DVR Kit with 1TB HDD and 4 Wired Cameras $80.65 Delivered @ Ozplaza Living eBay
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I don't think so but don't know.
Nope, just be careful. Connecting them to the internet and having it face to the www with an open port is very risky, these systems are easily hacked/ exploited.
anything can we do to stop that? Thanks.
Open to the internet a VPN server and the cameras only to the local network. It would be probably slower, but safer ;)
a
very good advice
You have to be careful with a, I prefer b because you can take progressive steps to the end goal, no point in rushing in straight away and screwing it all up, you may as well just choose z whilst you're at it…
With cameras you get what you pay for in quality
It really depends. I bought a bunch of ~$800 Avigilon cameras and a bunch of ~$130 Hikvision cameras. The Hikvision cameras looked just as good.
These are cheap, but they could be totally fine. There isn't much technology in the cameras as they're analog AHD cameras - you can buy them for US$11 each, delivered. I installed this Swann set a while back and the quality was excellent for the price. I wouldn't be surprised if these cameras were similar.
hikvision are probably the best you can get as that is why most businesses use them
Yeah, so quality isn't always tied to price.
@eug: Yes, that old truism that isn't true.
This is an interesting quote
“Nespresso has built its brand through its club and boutique stores, creating what is known as ‘premiumisation’. However, the low ranking of their coffee capsules in our taste test is a reminder to consumers that an expensive, exclusive product isn’t always necessarily the best,” says Angela McDougall, food policy advisor for CHOICE.
@RockyRaccoon: But Choice found Nespresso tasted the best in this test that I found …
https://www.choice.com.au/food-and-drink/drinks/tea-and-coff…
@Diji1: Hahaha… Gold.
Don't know who messed up more, there.I won't drag OT with my opinion of capsule brands.
@Diji1: You need to look past the headlines my friend, the test you link to is the best, OF the, Nespresso capsules.
We put 12 different Nespresso-compatible coffee pod brands to the test to see which tastes best and which offers the best value for money.
Which BTW is a direct quote from your linked page. Quoting things out of context to push home a point, works only if not sprung….
Its like saying the best of the green team, when the green team fills the last places
@RockyRaccoon: @RockyRaccoon I'm a bit confused. Your original posted quote was from a taste test of Nespresso compatible pods by Choice.
So I don't believe Diji1 is quoting anything out of context. Your quote is from a 2013 report of only 5 pods tested (the quote being that consumers should look at buying compatible pods instead of Nespresso), the reference from Diji1 is from a more recent test of 12 (completely different) pods that suggests the Nespresso pods are better.
Frankly the second test did not include any of the original 5 pods, so as you rightly pointed out these 12 pods could potentially be the worst 12 pods out there.
I have a bunch of 720p cameras I bought from Kmart for $7 each. They are fantastic. I run them through a synology NAS and access the stream through homeassistant. The quality is good, certainly enough for home security, and they've never let me down. Well worth the $7 each.
Are they still available? Mind sharing the model and brand? Thanks.
No. I got them like 5 year ago. Still going strong.
I have some of these in the shed. Thanks for reminding me!
Download the latest firmware into them which disables the wifi but enables ONVIF, it makes them compatible with pretty much everything
ordered one
1500TVL
Stay clear.
What does it mean? Sorry, I am new to this things.
It'll look something like the lower left in this image where the word Video is.
https://www.i-wholesale.com.au/ebay_lisitng_pic/CCTV-4C-4B-B…
How much is good TVL then?
1501
lol
If you have an old analog CCTV system, you can use these as a drop-in replacement as they use the same cables. Just swap out the cameras and recorder and instantly get much clearer video.
I have a 720 cctv that uses coax connections, and a back panel just like this one. Arere they all powered by the coax in the same way?
Do I need the new box, or just buy some 1080 cams?I have a 720 cctv that uses coax connections
hm, which one exactly?
Arere they all powered by the coax in the same way?
They would be powered with a separate power cable.
Do I need the new box, or just buy some 1080 cams?
Without knowing exactly which cameras you have and what the image quality is like at the moment, I can't really say. This set is really cheap and will be a large upgrade to an old analog CCTV system, but if your existing system is e.g. a 720p SDI system (which also uses coax), I wouldn't bother getting this.
I have no idea, it's some no brand thing someone installed for us, and put wires in the roof. It uses a generic app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tvt.networ…
How can you tell if it's analog or sdi?
Could you please stop talking nonsense?
Some good analog systems out there are still better than this no-name rubbish. Or you really think the real-life installations screenshots are genuine? Well, they are nowhere near from what you’re going to get. Especially the picture at night time and the one comparing 720p with 1080p. Most of the time you won’t tell a difference between 720 and 1080, plus the 1080p image is heavily HDR rendered – no camera even for $2000 will give you that picture.Some good analog systems out there are still better than this no-name rubbish.
Have you seen the output of these cheap AHD cameras and compared them to interlaced analog cctv systems?
Also keep in mind the target market. People who spent $4000 on a Bosch DinionXF analog system 15 years ago wouldn't be looking at upgrading their system with an $80 set of cameras. It's the people who spent $500 on an eBay analog system 10 years ago who would be looking at these.
I'm actually keen to see the difference to my old analog cameras. Any examples somewhere?
I'm actually keen to see the difference to my old analog cameras. Any examples somewhere?
Yeah, there are quite a few videos on YouTube showing the difference. Of course, we don't know how this particular generic camera performs, but all these sample videos are from generic cameras too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvs3fQG7f2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phNX6bt3iMUYouTube search:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ahd+vs+analogThe cameras in this deal are advertised as 1080p (2MP) but the recorder only captures 1080N (1MP), so in the sample videos, the 720p clips would be closer to what these cameras would capture.
I'm sure the quality of terrible, but including a 1td Toshiba HDD makes this seem like worth a chance?
The quality might be totally fine. They used to sell them for $219.90. Looks like they're just clearing them out.
bought one. cheers
says that it supports IP camera?
Professional wiring is gonna cost much more than this. Imagine it gets broken quickly…
For a new installation, it'd be a lot more future-proof to run CAT6 cabling and get IP cameras.
That said, for some installations, at this price, it could still be worth running coax. Digital HD-SDI cameras can run through the same cabling.
It seems this DVR can record from an IP Camera might be able to use this with different IP Cameras
If you have a house with decent roof access, it is not so hard to lay the cables.
You could always use the coax to pull ethernet cables in a few years :)
Run the cables along the eves (single story). If you have tiles, you don't even need to go up on the roof.
Cheap, but just a word of caution for anyone purchasing these systems. Don't connect the device to the internet as these devices are easy to hack into.
Just cancelled my order. Worried about wiring and remote access.am planning to get Quote from NRMA Security and Monitoring
Just make sure your router/modem has UPnP disabled, so the DVR can not open incoming ports.
And change the default password!
Thats Chubb
got refund now all good
1TB HDD 57000 rpm. 57 000 !
😁
1TB SSD 00,000rpm!!
Out of stock already, op might need to change the title. Was trying to purchase as a backyard dog watcher but expired.. too late lol 😆
What's your camera:dog ratio?
1:0
The dog expired
username checks out.
Please don't waste your money on this junk.
1TB SEAGATE or WD surveillance hard drives cost $70 and this whole kit is $80.65. So this should tell you something about the quality of the products you get.
4MP/6MP resolution has pretty much become a minimum in security cameras today, so this 1500tvl with most likely a very tight angle lens (probably 60/70 degree) is just absolute rubbish.You will be charged atleast $300 (from a handyman) or $500+ from a professional installer to run the cables and install the cameras and be left with crappy thin cables that won't be of any use once you want to change these over to quality cameras.
If you need something really cheap and temporary and can install it all yourself, go for it. Otherwise stay away.
Just my 2c as a professional security technician.@Zotech. I was just about to order then I read your opinion. I want to buy! Why'd you need to come along with your experience and facts and sensible talk and ruin it all for me!
seamonkey.
Unofficial ozbargain code #3;
An ozbargainer shall do their best to sway another ozbargainer away from buying something that isn't really a bargain ;)Someone actually bought 10 units. LOL! Don't think what he said swayed anyone.
Quite a few assumptiins there. That they were an ozbargainer. That they even saw the comment. It's got that feel of a broden. Someone buying 10 thinks they can resell at Double the price. Likely work out with some effort.
1TB SEAGATE or WD surveillance hard drives cost $70 and this whole kit is $80.65. So this should tell you something
it tells me it is a bargain! Buy!
What can I say.. I tried.
Exactly why I bought it too.
yep cheapest 1TB Toshiba is roughly the same price as the whole system lol
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TOSHIBA-1TB-Video-Surveillance-H…Seems UL-TECH is selling the HD for $93.90
https://www.amazon.com.au/Toshiba-SATA-Internal-Hard-Drive/d…
1TB SEAGATE or WD surveillance hard drives cost $70 and this whole kit is $80.65.
Keep in mind that they used to sell them for $220. It still goes for $220 on Amazon now.
AHD cameras are only US$11 delivered on AliExpress. They are pretty basic devices.4MP/6MP resolution has pretty much become a minimum in security cameras today,
As a professional security technician, you would know that higher megapixels is not always necessary. It depends on the category of footage required (ID, recognition, detection etc) which involves angle of view, how far away your desired subject is, resolution of course, and what it is you're capturing. Also, if you compare sensors of a similar generation, the higher MP you go, the smaller the individual pixels will be resulting in more noise in the image. Turning up noise reduction will just result in a mushy picture.
Using a 6MP camera to capture the entrance doorway of a house is way overkill as the subject is close-up. 40-80px per face is sufficient for identification, depending on lighting.
Likewise using a 2MP camera to capture an entire backyard would be sufficient for detection but likely insufficient for identification, unless the person is close to the camera.
So there's no real minimum, unless someone just wants to sell higher-cost high-MP cameras.
In a perfect world, everything should be as high-res as possible. But realistically, just like how it's pointless to have 20MP selfie cameras on phones, in a normal home it can be pointless to have 6MP CCTV cameras installed. It just depends on the situation.You will be charged atleast $300 (from a handyman) or $500+ from a professional installer to run the cables and install the cameras and be left with crappy thin cables
Yeah, if I were going to be paying a professional installer to run cables, I would definitely go with CAT6 and get IP cameras - although there's nothing inherently wrong with proper coax in the right situations.
If you need something really cheap and temporary and can install it all yourself, go for it. Otherwise stay away.
Yeah I agree - I think the target market for such a cheap set like this is someone who would be doing it themselves. A professionally-installed 4ch IP-based CCTV system can be $1.5-2k. This is only $80. They both have their markets. I'm sure someone buying an $80 system wouldn't be expecting the same quality as a $2,000 system.
They can sell for $500 if they like, the fact that they are $220 on Amazon still doesn't change the fact they are worthless.
Saying a 6mp at a doorway is an overkill is like saying watching a movie in 4k is an overkill. Why wouldn't you want to see the person at your door in a higher resolution with much more clarity in the picture?
And regarding what you say about proper coax, yes if you run proper RG59 there is nothing stopping you from adding higher resolution CVI cameras later, but the cores in the cable you get with this won't be thick enough to work with those cameras.
You know it's not comparable to a $2,000 system and I know it, but you can't assume everyone else does too. Which is why I felt the need to give people a little warning.
They can sell for $500 if they like, the fact that they are $220 on Amazon still doesn't change the fact they are worthless.
I was specifically replying to your point where you said this set must be crap because a hard disk is $70 and this kit is $80. It looks like they must be clearing the kits out, which would be the reason why it's $80 and not their usual $220.
Saying a 6mp at a doorway is an overkill is like saying watching a movie in 4k is an overkill.
As I mentioned earlier, in a perfect world, everything should be as high-res as possible. But realistically, it is not necessary. There are also drawbacks to higher-res sensors with current technology.
Why wouldn't you want to see the person at your door in a higher resolution with much more clarity in the picture?
I want my CCTV system to identify intruders. I am not going to be printing a poster of them, so I only need enough resolution for their face to be recognised. If the system has been properly planned (camera location, lens focal length, sensor limitations), a 2MP camera will be absolutely adequate to identify someone.
Bluray movies are 2MP - I'm sure you can identify people on a Bluray movie. It's not only resolution that's important, it's how that resolution is used.
There is a point of diminishing returns, and with video, it can turn to negative returns. This is a well-known fact in the video industry which is why Sony and Panasonic both sell low-resolution versions of their popular A7 and GH5 camera that are catered specifically for video recording.
You know it's not comparable to a $2,000 system and I know it, but you can't assume everyone else does too. Which is why I felt the need to give people a little warning.
That's fair. But you didn't just give a warning, you said the whole set was total rubbish because a hard drive costs $70, the resolution is too low, and everything is just crap so don't waste your money. My point is that people in the market for an $80 system will definitely not be in the market for a $2000 system. For those in the former group, this system might be perfect for them. I'm sure nobody is expecting an $80 system to be like a $2000 system - people can't be that unrealistic. :)
Available again
Got 9 Hikvision IP Cameras but also 4 old analogue. They aren't even HD. Bought this so I get clearer quality cameras to replace the old 4. IP Cameras obviously better…
I've seen 10 Megapixels IP cameras that were no better than old analog Samsung SCD-2080
yeah nah you haven't
Speak for yourself please
Hey guys I’ve recwntly purchased a new house and am pretty confident in running the cables. Not the handiest of men but roof access is okay. I currently don’t have any security system set up so feel this would be a good base set up.
Would you guys agree or say spend the 300-500 and get something slightly better?
CheersGet this one if you're going to install it yourself and if it's still available.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/poly-eiger-4mm-3-6m-yellow-poly-…
Get this very helpful I found when doing my wiring. Having someone on the other side would help heaps. Running back and forward was a pain.
Don't use this.. Get a couple of decent cameras.
Plenty of info if you want to learn about IP cameras at: https://ipcamtalk.com/
Don't even need this, bought. Ozbargain pls
Pay peanuts get monkeys
I understand your point, but it is going to be better than a house with no cameras when In reality it’s only going to cost me about $80 and take me a few hours to set up right?
My thoughts for my (future) first house.
Googling TVL1500, quality doesn't look too shit on the YouTube videos. Not great but useable footage.
I love this saying, works for cheap labour 😂
In stock again
Can anyone recommend a good cheap IP POE camera with software?
dahua are cheaper than hikvision and comparable quality
So for "good, cheap", are you thinking of something like this $50 1080p ethernet, onvif:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AU-Stock-Dahua-English-3MP-Dome-…
Would it work with generic analog/digital DVRs like the above?
Or $80 from China gets 4Mp, h265, PoE as well as 12V.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DAHUA-IP-CAMERA-HD-4MP-POE-BUILT…
will need new DVR to get full benefit (later?).
Buy OEM hikvision has long as they are firmware upgradeable. Chinese ones when upgrading can brick the cam
"No idea on quality but should be ok"……
The only thing in the package that's "worth" it, is the HDD.
These cameras will be utter crap. Go a Hikvision or Dahua IP cameraI got Hikvision cameras and they have been excellent. Recording to Blue Iris. I got a few 1080p Hikvision Cube cameras to compare to. Will post the quality difference between this system and the cubes when I receive it.
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for remote access any monthly fees?