Hi
In my street except my house every other house is nbn connected
I have Optus 200gb plan which I constantly get 80Mbps/ 37 Mbps speed which I think is much better than 42 Mbps which normally provided by nbn providers
And I don’t go over 200gb for last 3 months
I am looking not to connect to nbn
Am I making a mistake ? No connection to house has been setup for nbn
What happens if I want to connect to nbn after a year or so ? Will I be asked to pay more for setup?
"Wow, 2Gbit speed so long as I'm right next to the tower"
Wrong. If implemented you will be close to a tower at nearly any point in time.
5G uses "small cell" aerials, installed everywhere.
You know what also uses small cells, in every home? NBN with a wifi router.
To get the claimed speeds for every user, they need to roll out a prohibitively expensive number of towers OR people have to use NBN instead.
If you get fast speeds on mobile broadband it is because right now, in your area, most people use fixed line for bulk data.
NBN will always be cheaper for bulk data due to having lower long-term maintenance and infrastructure costs.
If you don't need much data, mobile data may be better suited for you but just hope that your neighbours don't get the same idea.
@jrt2020 i am also using the same optus for almost 2 years. ATM I am renting and I also didn't want to pay the $300 development fee for NBN.
as a renter, the landlord should cover the 'One Off' Government legislated fee.
Considering the next renter of the property does not have to pay it, why should a renter have to upon 1st connection..
This should be considered as part of a landlords requirement to provide services to the property.
The only fee an end user should pay is the service providers setup and plan fees.
The issue is that as NBNco charge the Service provider who then charges the end user, landlords will try to say its a connection fee and as such its a tenant cost. But in reality it isn't, its a legislated gov charge for all new developments and is only billed on the initial connection.
NBNco Excerpt.
we intend to apply the charge to all new Location IDs within the site boundary of a 'new development', including new developments in brownfields areas. This is consistent with our current methodology of identifying new development sites. We impose the charge to phone or internet providers to the first connect order to be completed for any new development location. The charge will apply to all technology types.
Any property that is NOT considered a new development does not get charged the fee via NBN co to the Service provider who onsets it to the end user.
I would suggest checking your tenancy agreement for a clause such as:
Lessors costs: 43 (1) The lessor must pay for any physical installation of services (eg water, electricity, gas, telephone line).
Why do you not want nbn, just wondering?
It's free, you may choose to have it or don't but an option is always nice.
If you own the house, it may also keep the resale value if it has nbn.
I think the key questions here are:
With regards to your third question, you can set up VOIP over a mobile broadband connection.
I'm the same mate. On an Optus 200gb SIM for the house and very happy with performance. Work crews were blocking up my street making noise all weekend installing NBN I don't want!
My question is I have Telstra Cable and I know NBN roll-out is just gonna be the same cable again except connected to NBN network.
Planned technology
nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC)
It's a downgrade for me as downloads will be 80Mbps and I only care about downloads. Upload speed isn't really an upgrade for me I don't upload large files.
Hence I want to keep my cable as long as possible
Under speedboost I get 110Mbps download. So why would I want NBN?
Keep in mind that there is fine print for their claimed 80mbps speeds. Some providers list in their fine print that the claimed speeds are the average of 150 selected households in specific areas. You could end up on the bad end of the lottery and end up with your provider not purchasing sufficient bandwidth in your area.
As i mentioned below, optus 4g and 5g is a good alternative if you want sheer speed. It's also stable as well, I haven't had any drop outs in games or noticeable lag.
The thing is long is is a piece of string I want to keep my cable as long as I can. I don't want NBN
At home I have both an ADSL2 connection (~15mbps) and a Optus 4G modem (200GB @ ~110mps). I use the 4G for gaming as it is VASTLY superior to ADSL (despite everyone being quick to tell me this would never be the case) for reliability, speed, and ping. Only issue is PS4 sometimes freaks out in Party chats with NAT Type 2 errors on it.
Honestly, I've stuck with my optus 4g plan. The newest plans offer up to 500gb per month if you lock in for 24 months with a modem. I'm using the ac800s modem in the air card smart cradle (4 gigabit ports, amplified 4g and wifi antennas) and i get 120mbps downstream during peak and 240mbps downstream during offpeak.
My tip is if you can hold out, wait for the 5g plans and modems optus is launching later this year. From their initial announcement, you'll get unlimited 5g downloads for $70 per month, and you can use the cat 16 4g speeds until 5g is available in your area. I'm waiting for this before i change from my 200gb plan.
https://www.optus.com.au/shop/broadband/5g
Still in the early stages of rollout with limited coverage, not a bad alternative to NBN for $70/month with a guaranteed satisfaction 50Mbps, given most NBN50 plan is around that price with a typical evening speed of 40Mbps.
I cancelled my Nbn (which was slower than cable) to use the faster 4g network with optus package.
Exactly what I worry about. I don't want to pay more for less. Right now everyone jumping on NBN means existing cable users can go faster and less congestion
+1 here, currently happy on cable and on a great deal but NBN is being installed and I know everything is going to go to shit at peak times…
100% it will. I don't give a shit about NBN my existing broadband is good enough as is and stay where it's at
@lltravel: I'm not voting for a reason. There are a lot of people who are on cable and don't want to move
Incorrect. Depending on the NBN tech your cable will never go above 2mb upload
4g latency is ridiculous
not sure what 4g youre using. I'm using the ac800s modem, ping is 15-20ms average with a maximum of 10ms jitter. If you get the ac800s modem and use the aircard smart cradle, you can use gigabit ethernet ports or the amplified 4g and wifi antennas to reduce latency. The 5g modems that i've seen from netgear let you plug them into routers via the ethernet port to minimise latency as well.
Mobile broadband also doesnt drop out like it did back in the 3g days. Landed 17 kills in a single fortnite team rumble match the other day and my girlfriend landed 25 kills in the same match on the same connection, it is a lot more stable since they started using cat 9 and higher 4g modems.
as an IT professional for over 15 years I can tell you wired over wireless no matter how good the tech, wired wins.
4g etc only is good as long as not everyone is using it. As spectrum usage increases it's going to get worse and worse.
The same thing applies to NBN though. lowest speed i've gotten on 4g is 120mbps downstream with 15ms ping, but this will vary from location to location.
5g should improve speeds so long as people are within range of the towers. NBN have felt threatened enough that they decided to buy up parts of the 5g spectrum to reduce the amount used by the big telcos, its a bit crap that they're allowed to do that when they have not yet offered a product that uses the spectrum that they have bought.
They are buying up 5g to improve their fixed wireless offering. You'll notice NBN does not buy spectrum in cities.
No one else who bought 5g spectrum has offered a product yet. That's generally how it works. The auction is before it gets used.
Cable does not have the same physical spectrum limitations as wireless.
There is only so much spectrum. The issue your having with your NBN is your ISP not investing in infrastructure.
"The NBN is compulsory, but at least 6 million Australians don't realise it" - https://www.afr.com/technology/web/nbn/the-nbn-is-compulsory…
I find it interesting, but not at all surprising, that the majority of people seem to not have need for the speed/bandwidth or are seeking alternative technology such as 5G. The NBN has been one big joke.
Very poor education and misguidance by NBNco and the political mess behind it.
NBN would have launched our infrastructure to the future (Large companies are now moving towards Working From Home, to save on office floor space as well as enabling a mobile workforce, this isn't entirely possible on ADSL2+ where upstream bandwidth is now important)
Labor didn't sell the benefits very well.
Liberals.. Malcolm Turnbull being Malcolm Turnbull.
If we did a Cost Benefit Analysis on Malcolm Turnbull I think we'd see the country going bankrupt
It would've been better if they stuck with fttp for everyone. Originally they complained that fttp was projected at around 30 billion, but now we have a half assed part copper network that has ended up costing around 51 billion and its incomplete and obsolete. Fttp allows for significant speed upgrades in the future with minimal hardware changes, whereas fttn copper is close to maxed out, and they have confirmed that it would require significant upgrades to accommodate for the 10gbit claims they made.
How are you getting those speeds?
Are you on cable?
I though isps capped uploads
80Mbps/ 37 Mbps speed
These speeds look like the OP is on NBN 100/40 plan.
That's what I thought when I read it. I was confused by the original post. How can they not be on nbn but getting nbn speeds.
Those speeds are from Optus 4G judging by their opposition to NBN.
It is strange they gave such a precise figure because mobile speeds change every time you do a test.
I figure that's just the result of the test they most recently ran.
It looks like it but in his OP he did say that he doesn’t want to connect to nbn.
Will my ADSL2+ speed improve as more people switch to NBN?
ADSL speed is mainly affected by the distance from the exchange and the copper quality.
Thanks.
lol op is very confused here
He is already on NBN
No cable connection is going to give you 40mb upload. PPl like the OP are clueless and have pretty much ruined our country by voting liberals in and have no idea what they are voting for.
NBN fiber is the only way Australia will leap forward.
Calling anything NBN either than fiber is pointless marketing crap to confuse people like the OP.
The Kiwis are gettonh "10 Gigabit" Fibre optic broadband now for less than the price we pay for "100 MBit" (and VDSL aka FTTN cannot often go beyond 50 MBit). This country is a 3rd world joke. Australia really is the "Poor White Trash of Asia".
When the Australia governments sells off the NBN we will end up paying even more and the network will never be improved upon. Telstra was never interested in moving beyond Coaxial + ADSL; they were content milking the status quo for maximum profit. When they own the NBN they won't upgrade it.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/chorus-trials-10gbps-broadband…
Spot on.
Except the bit about FTTN, I think you meant to say FTTN cannot often go beyond 20 Mbits.
I'm 600m from the node and at a steady 19 Mbits, but NBNco say its fine as long as its above 12.
I'm telling the Libs to F off at the next election.
You don't HAVE TO connect to NBN.
BUT eventually the copper wire system will be turned off and it will be the only option if you want internet access.
I am building a 2 unit subdivision in Melbourne.
Although I don't want the NBN, I paid $2000 to a consulting firm to coordinate telecommunication infrastructure plus $3000 to Telstra ($5000 total).
I was told that without telecommunications organised I cannot get an occupancy permit.
https://www.vba.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/18724…
if you dont connect to the nbn now the only thing that will happen is nbn will cut your phone line and it wont be free anymore when you want to connect.
if youre happy with 4G internet then you can simply not get nbn.
Yes you do need to switch to NBN, it's the law, it fits better with our surveillance state.
I've been on optus 4g mobile broadband with the ac800s modem for over 2 years now. Speeds during peak are 120mbps, offpeak goes up to 240mbps. This is in an area with a significant level of interference, and I didnt have much of a choice since all the ports in my area were used and the trees in this area block out nuskope and uniti wireless. Reliability is great if you choose the right modem, the ac800s modem maintains multiple connections to the tower to maximise stability and speed, mobile broadband is no longer the unreliable mess it was back in the 3g days. The newer cat 16 4g modems maintain up to 20 connections for a theoretical max of 1gbps as well as improving stability.
Haven't had any dropouts in games either, landed 17 kills in a single fortnite team rumble match the other day and my girlfriend landed 25 kills in the same match on the same connection. Ping is stable at around 15-20ms, although there can be around 10ms of jitter during peak times.
The other benefit of mobile broadband is if youre renting like myself. You don't need to pay setup fees and dont need to worry about locking in an nbn/adsl contract to a particular property and then having to pay a relocation fee afterwards. All you have to do when you move is bring your mobile broadband modem with you.