A more budget version of the X27 and the PG27UQ which retail for $3000 to $3500, great value compared to those monitors. Seems to retail locally for $1499 elsewhere here. One of the listed Freesync monitors that are now compatible with Gsync with the new driver update. Lacks the 384 zoned backlight, HDR1000 (only has HDR400) and Gsync of those more expensive ones, but still much better value imo due to 144hz
It's a bit crazy to me considering 120hz lg oled 55 inch TVs are under 2k and have response times less than 0.1ms.
OLED and static screens don't really work much well together so a pc screen with lots of stuff staying in one space like a program or toolbar would get imprinted on the screen after awhile especially if you leave your pc and screen afk.
I'm not gonna say it won't, but it does vary from screen to screen and does depend on how you use it. I've had an oled tv for 3 years, logged many hours in fortnite and destiny 2, I have had some image retention but no permanent burn in.
I dont watch live tv though which seems to be the thing that would be more likely to burn in due to logos. I also run at half brightness to avoid burn in issues.
Yep, how much would you pay for one? 4k 144hz is pretty new and this is only like $300 less than a 1440p equivalent
Same price at 2 other stores, so not much of a deal.
Which stores?, I checked centrecom and they had it for $1499, CPL didn't have it at all
Edit: PCCG and the others must have gone up very recently, my bad
PCCG had it in stock a few days ago, sold out within a couple hours of going live, they have more stock as of today.
How is this a deal ? I dont understand. Its retail pricing.
Probably too early to ask this question but does this come in any larger sizes?
If I were to buy a new monitor it would have to be 32 inches minimum.
Don't worry about resources and power it will be a 8700K RTX 2080Ti machine minimum.
Most likely still sticking to single monitor also just tossing up between a 4K TV or a 4K monitor as I have compared both and the differences is honestly not that big of a factor for me besides the capped refresh rate of the tv compared to a monitor.
Input lag is fine I have concluded that I am willing to sacrifice size for the increased input lag but I need to find some 32"+ alternatives first before I can make my final decision.
I remember Nvidia was meant to be releasing some Big Format Gaming Displays (BFGD) sometime this year or next year wasn't what happened to them?
Well, it depends if you're using keyboard/mouse or a gamepad. I wouldn't go any higher than 32" with a keyboard and mouse unless you're sitting a good 1.5m-2m away on a separate table. I had a 40" display for 6 months and it was way too big to use as a normal PC, ended up finding the 32" sweet spot.
Either way, if you're planning on getting a enthusiast PC as you've stated; input lag would be my primary concern. No point sinking that much money into a PC only to hamper it with a slow TV.
Yeah I agree 32" might be the upper limit of the screen size for my use case scenario unless I completely change things up a bit which I can't much unless I relocate stuff around my bedroom.
I feel like 35" - 40" though would be just absolutely perfect for me As my vision is bad so a bigger screen would be nicer I know how silly that sounds but for example I prefer using my 8 inch tablet up close over my 5.5 inch phone easily any day of the year so I think a 35" - 40" pc screen for me would be just perfect might have to move the case to the bottom or somewhere around but it would be ideal.
Disagree. I have 43" and sit close (0.5m). 43" is slightly too big though, I would have preferred smaller. 38" at a guess. I'd actually prefer it had a curve more than anything, then size isn't an issue.
Depends how much you want that extra size, can vouch that for gaming it's definitely good at 27 inch, but for productivity you really do have to run at at least 125% scaling.
There's a HP one launching next month for $5000 USD. Also comes with an Nvidia shield and for some reason a sound bar too. Can't think of anyone that would pay $5k US + probably an RTX 2080 machine and would be too scummy for some good speakers
My first monitor was 14". A 17" monitor was considered massive. Good times.
AFAIK there should be a 32" version of these 4k, high refresh rate, IPS displays coming out later this year (although monitor releases always seem to get delayed).
If you want options right now; there's the Wasabi Mango (Korean monitor that you can grab off eBay for ~1500 after discount codes) that does 43" 4k@120Hz via dual DisplayPort. It reportedly has pretty decent low input lag but some issues with colour when compared to the more expensive bigger brands. I don't know too much about this so I'd recommend you look further into it if you're interested.
Otherwise, there's the BFGD coming soon as per the other comment and also an Alienware 55" OLED "monitor" 4k@120Hz but that appears to just be an LG panel re-branded into a monitor.
I believe this year's LG OLED TVs should have HDMI 2.1 and will be able to output 4k@120Hz so it might be worth the wait for that (but of course you'll have to juggle the whole potential burn in issues when using it as a monitor)
The wasabi mango looks like a cool idea. 43" might be a bit too big but it could work if I change my room up a bit and would be ideal for Netflix bed viewing.
Yeah definitely avoiding anything related to screen burn in. As much as I would absolute love OLED especially for night gaming the risk of burn in is too big an issue and would make it impossible to use or sell and I don't think even covered by warranty which I also hate dealing with for large objects.
This is standard price for the monitor
Some info for those interested in buying this:
Keep in mind that if you run adaptive sync with this monitor you are limited by DisplayPort 1.4
e.g. you will have more constrained options such as
- 120Hz + 8 bit
- 120Hz + 8 bit+FRC but with chroma subsampling (4:2:2)
- 86Hz + 8bit+FRC with no chroma subsampling
If you disable adaptive sync you can run the monitor at 144Hz + 8bit+FRC with no subsampling (but no HDR) by using two DP1.4 cables and "overclocking" the monitor in its OSD; but unless you are playing older titles, turn settings down, or are running a multi GPU setup, you'll probably opt with using the monitor with its adaptive sync (thereby not actually being able to hit 144Hz)
G-sync runs fine on the monitor and if you have a 10xx/20xx card and driver 417.71 (latest driver) it'll automatically detect the monitor and apply G-sync if you enable Freesync in the OSD of the monitor.
Just an FYI in case anybody is buying this monitor as the advertising / product description does not make any of this clear
Good pick up on the actual usability of the specs of this monitor! Technically it is VRR and 144hz,just not at the same time!
Even not counting cost (unless you were filthy rich) it's really just not worth buying these high end ones without HDMI2.1.
HDMI 2.1 really should have been called 3.0 due to the very dramatic increase in capability.
How do you set 86hz 8bit+frc? It seems custom refresh rate are locked at 8 bpc for me.
Also for anyone thinking of playing games with HDR, Freesync will be disabled when HDR is on, so it's either or situation, and it applies to both AMD and NVIDIA cards. Probably not too bad since HDR on this monitor is kinda garbage…
I bought at Scorptec too but now on the 2nd return due to heavy backlight bleed and glow. Sad…
The exact way I did it was this:
Using nVidia control panel
Hope this helps
Image showing settings here: https://imgur.com/a/oUOmRpa
Weird I created 1 at 98hz and another at 75hz but none shows 10bpc for me. Perhaps it's a magic number :D Once mine come back ill try it out. Most of my games don't get pass 90fps anw so 86hz 10bpc is nice compromise. However LFC seems to kick in around 50fps so gotta make sure it doesn't dip that low frequently (looking at you AC Odyssey!)
I've always wondered why a store will tolerate a return for "heavy backlight bleed and glow"?
It's a risk. It's also within the bounds of normality. If I was a shop, unless you could prove it was outside of manufacturer spec, I'd tell you to stick it.
Well I agree blb is more or less the norm for IPS, I have used many IPS monitors so I know what to expect. However, BLB and glows to the point that make my photos, movies and games look like there's a strong vintage effect on top is intolerable IMO. I would expect higher QC standard for a 1k+ monitor?
Looked at pic and thought it was the PG27UQ. You almost had me.
OP, what would you use this monitor for? There aren't many games that can be played at 4k 144fps with current graphics cards. It seems like a lot to spend on a 27" monitor with specs that can only be fully appreciated with less visually demanding games.
Until graphics cards are more powerful, wouldn't it make more sense to invest in monitors with specs that make a tangible difference to your experience that aren't dependent on the capabilities of your setup? Like a larger screen, or proper hdr (hdr1000), oled/quantum dot panel, low response times etc.
You would be surprised at how many games have 4k 144hz support nowadays.
Sure most won't hit that 144hz ceiling but a fair few will overwatch, rocket League, league of legends and hopefully soon warcraft 3 reforged to name a few.
I'm not a huge gamer, so I'm more asking out of curiosity. I was just questioning the value of monitor specs that are only ever going to be fully experienced on a limited number of games (and also, there are the constraints of displayport 1.4)
I would love an OLED panel. Got any suggestions?
Alienware is working on one but it's 55" which is basically a TV with the tuner removed. Will probably cost more than an LG B8/B9 55" too.
I imagine there are many like me who would appreciate the flexibility of having a single monitor that suit all their needs.
Eg. 27” 4k ultra sharp display for office works, programming and/or video/photo editing(coming from a mac user, anything less than 150ppi is intolerable, also windows scaling at 150% works perfectly for me and apps I use, 144hz also makes any desktop animation so smooth); 4k 144hz for enjoying stunning graphic details and butter smooth motion for the few games that cards like rtx 2080 can push; for demanding RPG games (say, AC Odyssey) 4K 30-80fps range is still excellent compare to 60hz maxed monitors; and for games that absolutely need the 144hz but can't do it at 4K I can always drop to 1440p which still looks amazing. For the odd times I watch 4K HDR movies on my PC, the fake HDR makes it more enjoyable too.
Wow do people actually pay this much for a computer monitor.
Edit: 3000-3500 for a monitor is crazy.