Is Whirlpool The Worst Australian Based Forums? [Community Answer: No]

LKFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 19:21

Whirlpool has to be the worst forums I've encountered in over 20+ years online.

Moderators aren't educated enough to participate in serious discussions so everything gets labeled as a personal attack or trolling. They have a serious problem with moderators being overly aggressive in trying to censor reasonable posts just because it contains an opinion that they don't like.

Seems the website has been overly moderated for many years and a quick search shows multiple accounts from other users reinforcing that view. Having been lurking a lot of Ozbargain's threads for a while it seems they're atleast open to discussion and aren't as quick to label everything as hateful or trolling which gives some hope for an online community that isn't being run by fascists trying to censor everything they don't understand.

I have added a poll if you wish to share your opinion without leaving a post.

If you disagree with the thread I'd like to know why so feel free to leave a response detailing why you disagree.

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  • 158
    No
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  • tightarse on 30/11/2018 - 19:22
    +18

    Welcome to OzBargain.

  • pasey25 on 30/11/2018 - 19:31
    +10

    Maybe they just don’t like KFC ?

  • spackbace on 30/11/2018 - 19:36
    +18

    Great first post.

    Please realise we have bargain and competition posts, not just a forum section in which to create pointless, childish posts such as these.

      • spackbace on 30/11/2018 - 19:43
        +17

        Comments yes, if you'd like to look at my posts, you'll see I've posted 1852 of them, with the vast majority being deal posts and competitions, not whinging forum posts.

        But well done, trying to attack the members that keep this site running.

        I see great things for you around here 😂

          • dylo on 30/11/2018 - 20:43
            +6

            @KFC Fan: Perhaps when you actually contribute something to the community you can critique others post histories.

            • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:05
              -2

              @dylo: Since when was experience a prerequisite for criticizing anything? I've actually submitted a few deals through the anonymous email they provide before I decided to make an account to post on the forums. Now weather they were posted or not I never bothered to follow up but that doesn't mean someone didn't contribute.

              I'd say you'd have plenty of things you criticize especially politically without having any knowledge or experience in the field whatsoever.

          • spackbace on 30/11/2018 - 21:36
            +2

            @KFC Fan:

            when your history is full of them is all.

            Oh my bad, I thought you just checked the first page of my comments, didn't realise you went through all 21,000+ and deduced your reply from there.

            the same comment

            Oh, if you were even on my league this post would be so much more fun. Alas, you just can't back it up and instead I'm going to have to go elsewhere to get any sort of educated battle, since I've stooped as far as I possibly can to get to your level, but I can't quite get that low.

      • Baysew on 30/11/2018 - 19:46
        +4

        That is not the post history - This is

        Apology accepted.

        • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 20:45
          -6

          No response? Thought as much.

          "Apology accepted"

          • D C on 30/11/2018 - 21:02
            +5

            @KFC Fan:

            Thought as much.

            You sound like a typical Whirlpool poster, so no surprise your account was canned leaving you with nothing to do on Friday nights.

            Where are you headed to next?

            • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:08
              -2

              @D C: Did you read the entire thread or were you unable to hold more than three words in your memory?

              That's about as far as I'm going to bother engaging someone like you because your intentions are clear from the get-go.

              • D C on 30/11/2018 - 21:31
                +1

                @KFC Fan:

                because your intentions are clear from the get-go.

                Not as transparent as yours though.

                I guess the pot calls the kettle clear these days.

                • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:56

                  @D C: Almost like I created the thread and made it perfectly clear what my intentions and opinions were in my first post, meanwhile all you did was post snarky comments about a user and not actually contribute to the titled discussion.

                  • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:08

                    @KFC Fan:

                    meanwhile all you did was post snarky comments about a user

                    …who just signed up to post a troll thread.

                    Ok, according to Betteridge the answer is "No". Happy?

  • Baysew on 30/11/2018 - 19:37
    +14

    What did Whirlpool say when you asked them?

  • trustnoone on 30/11/2018 - 19:43
    +1

    I'm surprised it gets panned so much, I haven't been on there much but I never found it that bad. In saying that though, your comparison of OzBargain forums to Whirlpool is interesting. I'm increasingly feeling people are bailing from Whirlpool forums to OzBargain, not just people thats been there for a while but new people are coming here instead.

    I know this is a bargain site in essence but I kind of wonder whether the forums are increasingly becoming more of an "Australian forum" above bargains.

    • sss333 on 30/11/2018 - 19:46
      +2

      I probably go to new discussions page as much as the new deals page.

      • Quantumcat on 30/11/2018 - 20:43
        +1

        I go to new discussions about 90% and new deals about 10%

  • tanksinatra on 30/11/2018 - 19:54
    +1

    They have a serious problem with moderators being overly aggressive in trying to censor reasonable posts just because it contains an opinion that they don't like.

    I do agree with this assessment. Moderators can be extremely overzealous and the level of censorship can be insane. Especially if you dare to mention changing a light fitting or running an ethernet cable. And despite being a 'tech' forum there is a real absence of technical knowledge.

    With that being said it is a good place to get informed on popular technology and networking/internet developments.

    • burningrage on 30/11/2018 - 20:14

      What's wrong with mentioning changing a light fitting or running an ethernet cable?

      I post there every now and then but never got censored for asking about ethernet cable…

      • D C on 30/11/2018 - 21:04
        +1

        What's wrong with mentioning changing a light fitting or running an ethernet cable?

        Electrical work brings out the safety Nazis. "It's illegal to do your own electrical work blah blah". Mind you a lot of forums are like that.

        Ethernet runs usually doesn't bother them so much.

        • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:21
          +1

          Well certain wiring is illegal unless licensed so I can see why whirlpool would want to discourage any unlicensed work from being done.

          • D C on 30/11/2018 - 21:29
            +2

            @KFC Fan: Yeah, that's exactly what a (ex)-whirlpoolian such as yourself would say.

            You really did fit in well over there.

              • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:00
                +1

                @KFC Fan:

                Ha, you have a problem with the fact that it's required by law…

                Keep following those orders son. Don't think, just follow.

                my god you're some kinda special dude.

                Yeah, I like to know how things work so I can fix them. Some people consider me a genius because I know which end of the screwdriver to hold.

                Ask someone English about electrical work - in the UK stuff came without a plug, you had to fit it yourself.

                And then there's you "Oh but but the law! It's there a reason you know!"

                • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:03

                  @D C: Meanwhile you drive on the left and stop at red lights.

                  • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:06

                    @KFC Fan:

                    Meanwhile…

                    I ride a bike, I call that life preservation considering what's going in the other direction.

                    You're not a very good troll, this thread is getting boring.

                    Crap memory too, remember this: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6668210/redir. "Oh your being mean, sniff sniff, not gunno talk to you any more sniffle.

                    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:10

                      @D C: So what you're saying is you follow the law and then cry at someone else just for stating that something is illegal unless licensed.

                      I honestly think you don't have a clue what you're on about anymore you're just that angry and upset.

                      • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:15

                        @KFC Fan:

                        then cry at someone else just for stating that something is illegal unless licensed.

                        Who said I'm not licensed to do electrical work?

                        Most of it isn't that hard, even someone of your apparently limited capabilities could do it. Perhaps not.

                        Those laws are there to protect the industry, not people, and they're relatively recent. Same thing happened in the UK. You probably tag & test your stuff too, that's a joke.

                        • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:17

                          @D C: No one said it, you just made that up out of nowhere.

                          Nice try though, you are an extremely poor troll.

                          • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:22

                            @KFC Fan:

                            you just made that up out of nowhere.

                            No I didn't, it's in your previous post, look up a bit. You wrote just that.

                            you are an extremely poor troll.

                            I know. Teach me the ways, oh master.

                            • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:24

                              @D C: Would've been nice for you to quote it, oh wait it doesn't exist so you can't.

                              You have no argument, give up already.

                              • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:29

                                @KFC Fan:

                                Would've been nice for you to quote it,

                                Seriously? You can even scroll up to you previos post in the thread? Wow.

                                Ok, here ya go: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6668474/redir

                                I'd await your next post about whatever, but unlike you I've got a girlfriend who's just arrived home, and shagging her is way better than boring made-up internet pseudo-drama.

                                Have fun, Chicken-man.

            • elgrande on 30/11/2018 - 21:45

              @D C: Very, very funny.

              So true.

    • serpserpserp on 30/11/2018 - 20:37
      +1

      There is actually a ton of good content on there. But if you just go on there and fire up some new thread that has been discussed a million times people tend to flame you.

      At least there are less ragequit and/or OzBoast threads on WP.

  • Godric on 30/11/2018 - 19:54
    +4

    Can you MS Paint something relating

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 19:56

      Nothing comes to mind at this moment, suggestions welcome.

      • serpserpserp on 30/11/2018 - 20:36
        +6

        How about you raging behind your computer looking at WP threads.

        • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 20:44
          -2

          I think you have me confused with some child on the left.

          Words don't upset me, sorry.

          • dylo on 30/11/2018 - 20:49
            +1

            @KFC Fan: No, just entire forums.

            • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 20:51
              -2

              @dylo: Since when did dislike = upset, I think it's safe to say you are unable to engage in any serious discussion.

              • dylo on 30/11/2018 - 20:53
                +2

                @KFC Fan:

                hope for an online community that isn't being run by fascists

                Seem a little upset to me. I think it's unfortunate that it actually appears you are the one that can't engage in any serious discussion. Enjoy your short time here.

                • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:15

                  @dylo: You haven't engaged in the titled discussion at all, all you've done is try to attack the poster which would've actually gotten your post removed if it was on whirlpool forums for multiple reasons.

        • Donaldhump on 30/11/2018 - 21:34

          I love the word raging, you get an upvote

  • dylo on 30/11/2018 - 20:34
    +4

    Disabled User 3…2…1…

    • HighAndDry on 30/11/2018 - 21:04
      +3

      Post on the next forum:

      Is Whirlpool OzBargain The 2nd Worst Australian Based Forums?

      FK, just realised altomic beat me by hours.

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 20:49

      That all?

      Expected a little more effort into your response altomic, I guess it's a little astray of your usual upvote hunting first posts you usually go for.

      Disappointing.

      • altomic on 30/11/2018 - 21:55

        your comment in nonsensical.

  • rgr on 30/11/2018 - 20:52

    i called someone an idiot on one of the sub forums there and got banned from posting. buncha feeling nazis

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 20:54

      Well calling someone an idiot is a personal attack so I can see the justification on that situation, permanent ban-worthy though would depend on your history.

      • D C on 30/11/2018 - 21:30

        What do we call people who get booted off Whirlpool and then come here to whinge about it?

        • MathNerd on 30/11/2018 - 22:25

          What do we call people who get booted off Whirlpool and then come here to whinge about it?

          KFC Fans.

  • wordplay on 30/11/2018 - 20:54
    +6

    they call it whingepool for a reason, but when you come to another forum to cry about oh boy…

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 20:58
      -3

      Meanwhile you're crying about someone opening up a discussion about something, good job attempting to engage in the conversation but your responses need a little work.

  • [Deactivated] on 30/11/2018 - 21:08
    +2

    Folks - please don't feed the troll. Just report the post and move on.

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:09
      -4

      If you consider serious reasoned discussion a troll then I truly feel sorry for you.

      I can already tell where you stand politically.

  • FLICKIT on 30/11/2018 - 21:10
    +2

    Whirlpool is what it is, I don't mind it… I prefer a heavily moderated forum over one dominated by trolls and kids, guess I'm getting old ;(…

    Status:Whirlpool Forums Addict
    Joined: Wednesday, 23 July 2003
    Post count: 4747
    Aura: Bright

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:18
      -3

      Love the "get off my lawn" attitude you have there.

      Incorrectly labeling people as "trolls and kids" just because they post things you don't agree with is a bit unfortunate. From what I've seen on whirlpool there were actually quite few actual trolls.

      • FLICKIT on 30/11/2018 - 21:23

        I haven't labeled anyone, I was just voicing my opinion which is what YOU asked for, lol … I can see why you have issues on forums ;)

        • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:26

          You said you'd prefer heavily moderated suggesting if it wasn't then the trolls and kids would overrun it. Never said you labeled a specific person incorrectly, merely suggested your usage of the trolls and kids can be used out of place when disagreeing with people.

    • HighAndDry on 30/11/2018 - 21:30
      +2

      I prefer a heavily moderated forum over one dominated by trolls and kids, guess I'm getting old

      Heh. Guess I'm still not that old because I don't feel that way. Yet.

      I'd want a forum that's moderated on quality of content, but not on hurt feelings. Pointless flaming should be removed, but substantial albeit offensive comments? Go for it, we're all (mostly) adults.

      • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:32
        -1

        The problem with people these days is so many of them were shielded in every aspect of their life and they consider a differing opinion an act of violence against them (Not even joking, people are that sensitive these days)

        • Donaldhump on 30/11/2018 - 21:37

          That’s the way the world is these days. Trust me if you manage someone and you tell the, their work is sub standard, they claim harassment and bullying

          • elgrande on 30/11/2018 - 21:50

            @Donaldhump: Yep, I second this. Thank you uncle snake for your words of wisdom. Cannot even have a reasonable discussion at work these days.

        • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:03

          is so many of them were shielded in every aspect of their life

          Lol, this coming from a person who tells me I should follow the law and not replace my own light fittings: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6668327/redir

          A snowflake electrical Nazi, whatever next.

  • pantsparty on 30/11/2018 - 21:36
    +3

    Put the shovel down mate. It’s Friday night, try and enjoy yourself instead of arguing with everybody. Go watch some tv or spend time with your family?

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:43

      I am enjoying myself thanks for the concern :)

      I don't mind hearing other peoples opinions especially ones that differ from my own. Even the people posting that don't want to actually have a discussion don't bother me at all, they're allowed to post whatever they want despite how useless it is.

      I think people are getting too used to this SJW/PC Culture where they think everyone is hurt by pixels on a website. It seems a lot of Australia's on-line communities are quite left leaning politically which is surprising. I believe I've been quite reasonable in all of my posts despite the blatant attempts to ignore the thread topic completely and just attack my character.

  • MessyG on 30/11/2018 - 21:40
    +2

    Trust me Whirlpool is an improvement from the forum it originally spun off from.

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:44

      Care to elaborate on any experiences you have had?

      • MessyG on 30/11/2018 - 21:47
        +1

        Whirlpool spun off from Bigpond users, the old Telstra cable Internet forum from the late 90s. It. was. vicious. (Although also hilarious). Whirlpool is soft by comparison! And Ozbargain is practically full of kittens by comparison again.

        Maybe try Reddit for a while if you've got forum fatigue?

        • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:51

          I have never been a fan of Reddit because fishing for karma seems to take priority over quality of content. Especially on certain subreddits where meaningful discussion gets pushed out of the way because people try to flood it with memes for karma

          • [Deactivated] on 30/11/2018 - 21:57

            @KFC Fan: but let's face it, we all want the tiny endorphin rush from seeing the +upvotes on here too.

            everytime my comments get negged, fade to grey and end up collapsed. i contemplate suicide (not really).

            • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:02

              @[Deactivated]: Being negative voted doesn't bother me at all, I've never been that invested in what other people think of me. I like it when people down vote things I have said especially when they don't leave a comment, it just lets me know they were too upset/uninformed to leave an actual comment. I find it extremely entertaining to see people downvote posts that are pure fact and not even my opinion, that's hilarious.

              I'd honestly prefer if they left a comment explaining why they downvoted if they were going to but the majority of people don't but hey, that's fine.

          • MessyG on 30/11/2018 - 21:58

            @KFC Fan: Perhaps there's a gap in the market so to speak then, maybe someone needs to start a tech forum? Aussie tech forums or some such.

            • [Deactivated] on 30/11/2018 - 22:04
              +1

              @MessyG: OCAU fills that gap.

              and lighten up a little KFC, it was a joke.

              • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:05

                @[Deactivated]: I got that by the tone of your post and specifically the "not really" at the end.

                I was just sharing my personal view on the whole upvote/downvote situation.

                OCAU (users, not moderators)is major left leaning as well unfortunately(surprisingly), makes engaging in the serious discussion forum completely unbearable.

                • MessyG on 30/11/2018 - 22:11

                  @KFC Fan: Definitely time for a right wing tech forum then!

                  • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:11

                    @MessyG: That would be the same problem but reversed, wouldn't help anything.

  • mbck on 30/11/2018 - 21:43
    +2

    Gosh it's just a forum. The responses op has passed made it as if, it's life and death. If only people put as much effort on other more important things.

    I can already see the reply
    "it's a free country…. you don't have to reply if you have nothing conctructive….don't attack op, not contributing to discussion Yada yada yada blablabla"

    No the point is #firstworldproblems. if this gets on your nerve then damn every little thing will blow you up. And that's fine, that's you. But as much as you are entitled to your opinion, so do everyone else here. So no need to attack everyone, and digressing to political leanings, and whatever random tangents you go off to above.

    "fascists trying to censor everything they don't understand." ah so you are the all knowing being eh? Anyone that disagrees with you, you twist their words, maybe garnish with some extra unrelated topics and brush them off as unintelligent beings, unworthy of respect. Uhuh.

    As you may have guess yada yada yada to your reply.

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:47

      Australia is not as free as you may think unfortunately. I wonder how many Australians actually know that we don't actually have "free speech" like they do in the USA.

      • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:11

        Australia is not as free as you may think unfortunately.

        Yeah, people keep making up laws about not being able to change light fittings and all that.

        Even worse you get toadies in forums saying that's fine, you must obey the law!. Because it's the law, duh! They ALWAYS follow the law.

        • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:16

          No one ever said anything about laws for changing your light fittings, I said certain wiring requires a license and if you're that dense to think it's not actually a thing here's a link for you. https://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Telco/Infrastructure/Cablin…

          • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:20
            +1

            @KFC Fan: Yeah and?

            Do you have a point?

            I'm perfectly capable of running data cables, but apparently I can't because people like you insist I should be licenced, and then moan about Australia going down the tubes because we're not allowed to do anything any more.

            Cognitive dissonance much?

            • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:22

              @D C: As I said earlier, you drive on the left and stop at the red light.

              You pick and choose what laws you want to follow then cry when someone shows reference to backup their argument. You're actually the worst troll I've ever seen, you really need to try a little harder.

              • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:24

                @KFC Fan:

                As I said earlier, you drive on the left and stop at the red light.

                And as I replied, if I didn't I'd get run over. Wow, reading comprehension failure as well.

                then cry when someone shows reference to backup their argument.

                Not much about light fitting in there, or domestic data cabling.

                • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:26

                  @D C: Never stated what specific wiring, clearly stated certain wiring. Looks like your reading comprehension is a complete failure.

                  • D C on 30/11/2018 - 22:29

                    @KFC Fan:

                    Never stated what specific wiring,

                    Perhaps you should have. Might appear you'd have a clue then.

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:58

      Difference being I'm all for letting other people post their opinions and I'm not going to sit here and censor them because it's something I don't like. I guess you missed that while editing your post.

  • [Deactivated] on 30/11/2018 - 21:46
    +1

    i kept getting banned from whingepool so i came here to do my trolling.

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 21:52

      Unfortunate but seems like it was what you wanted.

    • serpserpserp on 30/11/2018 - 21:55
      +1

      Seems to be the thing to do these days..

  • [Deactivated] on 30/11/2018 - 22:05

    @KFC Fan

    Donald Trump, that you?

    • KFC Fan on 30/11/2018 - 22:08

      No I'm not Donald Trump, that's fake news.

  • altomic on 30/11/2018 - 22:07

    I would have thought OzNazipaedophiles was the worst Oz based forum.

    but the members there are kinder

  • Moderatorscotty on 30/11/2018 - 22:29

    It has been covered before, and really no point of attacking another website here. Thread closed.

  • SlavOz on 30/10/2019 - 19:09
    Merged from Why is Ozbargain so much better than Whirlpool?

    Sorry if this isn't appropriate to post (but hey this is OzB, I'll probably get a friendly reprimand instead of a fiery storm of hellfire like on Whirlpool!)

    Seriously, this forum is pretty chill. I don't think I've ever had a post deleted, and I've certainly never been suspended. I used to use Whirlpool for my daily discussions and most of the users there were ridiculously self-righteous. The moderators were far worse and would basically silence anyone who had a different opinion on virtually anything. Even disagreeing with a long time user on WP (who wasn't a mod) could get you suspended. It got hilarious at one point and tbh I expected this place to be the same. Not the case.

    I don't know if it's the user base or the site rules/mods, but this place is ions better. Not just for friendly banter and jokes, but for legitimate discussions or helpful tips.

    On ya Ozbargain.

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