Noticed that Whirlpool is pretty quiet these days, and Google Trends seems to validate that it's heyday is over.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=%…
But why? Would have expected it to spike up with NBN, people exploring plans etc. Is there an alternative I am missing?
But reddit doesn't allow you to post a comment for a few minutes if you've received a lot of downvotes.
This.
Also it is quite easy to receive a tonne of downvotes from reasonable comments.
EG, on /r/australia, you will get downvoted/banned if you:
I miss r/C00nTown. R/Australia is a circle jerk for leftist idiots.
@Findo: Can we just appreciate the irony of this comment being downvoted right after what the comment above's said.
You get downvoted / banned for going against the general trend, or offending "dredd" in any way which can often be totally random.
I'm so sick of that place being the forefront of australian discussion. It's terrible.
The community also shifts attitudes from morning to night. In the morning, it seems to be full of edgy teenagers/uni students, and late in the evening, it seems people get home from work and bring some sense back into it. But it's such a hopeless community. I really wish there was an alternative sub.
@niggard: You're entitled to your opinion, but name calling ("leftists idiots") gets you a down vote on OzBargain too.
no string attached welfare
says employers are bad
says he cant afford housing despite rent and sharehousing being cheap as shit.
Sounds like you just need a job hun…
Surely that's a feature, not a bug?
(LOL how do you even know that? Were you posting racism or ads?)
Anything that isn't left wing will get you downvoted lol.
BS.. I never get banned on Reddit and always get banned here
@grog: Meh, imagine the college kids that think communism's a good idea. Unfortunately those vocal fools are what most people end up associating with the "left"
The left's a hell of alot more varied then the right. Very unfortunate it's just reffered to as the "left", because I'd bet a fair few people would have more "left" views then right
Maybe people just aren't buying washing machines as much anymore
Very,very poorly moderated.
Unlike here :)
poorly moderated as in too aggressive or just too lax?
I feel like the mods on whirlpool are staunch left wing, I'm still banned on whirlpool
You an JV should launch Whirlpool 2.0
What were you banned for…?
Heaven forbid you challenge a mod's decision making.
There's no logic or common sense behind a lot of their decisions, and come across as power hungry.
Way too aggressive. WP is a lefty safespace. Only opinions sanctioned by the mods are allowed.
I got banned by a moderator shortly after they posted opposing responses to a bunch of my posts on a particular topic in their Current Affairs forum. It was pretty obvious that the mods there were not very consistent or objective; I recall that any poster who used a female ID seemed to be given a lot more leeway then other posters as far as abusive behaviours or personal attacks against others.
I see a pattern that outsiders visit OzBargain more than the usuals, and this spikes up during the Shopping Seasons of Xmas and EOFY. However, it seems like Whirlpool has a more steady yearly visitor stream so its likely a balanced level of usual users and new users looking for help with a certain issue that probably has been asked a few times before. Interesting.
Am I only one who never browsed Reddit website?
I browse reddit a lot but I can't imagine using it for the same purposes as ozb or whirlpool.
Reddit could easily be used the exact same as ozbargain for posting deals.
It could be, but finding smaller subreddits and keeping them alive is really hard. A site dedicated to bargains is easier to findd, attract new users and keep a community, than a subsection of a massive website where finding individual subs isn't the easiest, especially given how useless reddits search feature is.
You need to get on that train my man. It is the Front page of the Internet.
Everyone on the same train doesn't mean I have to be on the same train. But may be I am missing something which can increase my knowledge
you have to get on the train to find out.
no - what's reddit
A meeting place for every cretin who has an internet connection, but finds 4chan too scary.
good call love it.
It's grown on me.
They could even just change the colour scheme. Brown and blue might have been classy a decade ago but looks so dated now.
I think they suffer from their lack of +/- buttons and flatfile format (no collapsable trees). You're left having to read through pages of every single comment whether they are complete junk or not.
I think they suffer from their lack of +/- buttons and flatfile format (no collapsable trees). You're left having to read through pages of every single comment whether they are complete junk or not.
Absolutely. Plus that stupid styling scheme that condensed the texts to a smallish area with empty white space all around.
Their 'solution' was for users to install scripts on their browser
Lack of 'ignore user' function means the 20+ page threads are polluted with junk comments with the interesting ones here and there.
Ozbargain needs the +/- too.. And maybe some display filters like "only greater than 1 vote".
Whirlpool is filled with old men and asians.
OzBargain is probably filled with Asians too. Hell, the founder is Asian!
Too many angry people on whirlpool.
Well, a majority of topics seems to revolve around modems, isp's, and computer problems….
You sound like one of them…
Hell, the founder is Asian!
What? I always thought the avatar was Scott?
I find it strange that they don't have email notifications. If I want to follow a thread I have to actually go back and check it. Yes I could use something external to notify me by email if there are new posts but I have to really care to bother doing that, instead of being mildly interested.
I am probably very oldschool for still using email.
I don't think using email for notifications is old school. It's the only way to get notified for things reliably for forums. App notifications (eg Android notifications) are unreliable because your phone may restart or go flat battery before you get a chance to read the notification, then it's gone.
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ozbargain.com.au
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/whirlpool.net.au
Unfortunately can't see more specific stats unless you you pay(or use free trial)
Proud of ozbargain at rank 33!
Live.com and Yahoo at rank 8 and 10 are weirding me out though.
Email is the reason why.
Went downhill ever since jv got banned there. He was quite productive in the AFL posts.
if JV was anything like here, I'm not surprised he's banned
Not like you can actually ban someone from these sites. Sure, you can ban an account but how easy is it to create another.
It dosent matter how many accounts you create some how they still catch you. It sound like they are so paranoid they have a lot of tools to detect you. most forums wouldn't go to the lengths to catch out the same user creating a account like WP does if you are the same person using a new account.
Look at his post count on Whirlpool!
Post count: 21697
And not to mention the posts here on OzBargain too.
How does someone have that much time on their hands to post that much?
Government "worker"?
probably migrating to ocau
ocau moderation is worse.
If I recall correctly from when Whirlpool started about 2 decades ago, the community formed there because it was the best place to find a broadband plan.
For some unimaginable reason, they shut the "Broadband Choice" feature down, and the forums have been slowly dying ever since.
OzBargain, on the other hand, is addictive: occasionally we'll find an amazing deal that only lasts a few minutes. When you miss enough of these, you can end up checking compulsively every ten seconds lest you miss another one. This means there are thousands of us here all day, and some of those end up using the forums. OzBargain now rivals r/Australia as one of the most active communities for smart tech-savvy types. (Yes, I know, plenty of stupidity here, but we're definitely smarter than average; compare the level of conversation here to something more popular like facebook or youtube comments).
OzBargain now rivals r/Australia as one of the most active communities for smart tech-savvy types.
My experience with r/Australia is a bunch of people whinging about house prices and the Government - certainly haven't seen any evidence of above average intelligence!
You haven't spent enough time in the youtube comment section, my friend. THAT's what average internet comments look like (heaven help us all).
haha this is too true
Also try the comments section of a news.com.au article
Mostly whinging about how the baby boomers screwed the millenials. Us GenX'ers don't get a look in!
At least we're not getting the blame for anything. I just keep my head down and keep slacking.
Agreed. I remember going to WP one day to see Simon had closed the broadband choice section…. I was surprised.
The moderation on WP is insane and why I left. OzB has decent moderation filtering out serious abuse and issues, without censoring the teasing and shenanigans that so many enjoy.
I post on WP when i need help about specific more involved topics as i seem to get more/better responses;
Eg relating to networks/bridging & creating subnets etc
Too much politically correct twats over there, some posters think they're high court judges which made their legally sounding posts very exhaustive to read for a layman like me.
Whirlpool is a great place to get info from.
I don't have an account but I can still read stuff which is good.
If I were to start a thread and ask a question I would post it on ozbargain though.
I think Whirlpool has lost a lot of the older people who were there to help,
pushed out by more agrressive posters who are just there to win arguments , get their post count up and live the ultimate nerd dream, be offered a mod pos
Orbargain is younger to begin with
I used to be on WP all the time. I was one of the long time oldies. It changed and so did I. Now I visit about twice a year.
Whingepool had it's hey-day at around the time dial-up went out of favour and everyone wanted to get ADSL. It stopped being relevant when the first Unlimited (and unthrottled) plans became available. Any people that still post there are in the "old habits die hard" category. The noise to signal ratio at Whingepool is poor and the moderation policies meant that it was never fun. OzB is a lot more entertaining.
It seems people are patriotic even concerning online forums….. seriously, you have a problem, you post, read the replies and get on with your life!
Reddit, I cannot browse, because I don't like the forum structure. It's a complete mess and I cant follow the conversation.
Maybe I'm just used to old style layouts…. ozb is ok, the replies are easy to follow, but the easiest is the old vb style ( just guessing here ).
Is there any way to make reddit like that?
you have a problem, you post, read the replies and get on with your life
And who helps with your problems?
Usually the long-term users.
And what keeps long-term users on a forum?
Usually the community aspect.
See where I'm going?
Reddit, I cannot browse, because I don't like the forum structure.
Agreed, much worse than Whirlpool and Ozbargain. Can't believe it go so popular with it.
Whirlpool Is Dying. But why?
Is OzBargain Taking over?
Noooooo.
I'd prefer the militant left to stay there basking in their clique's communal stink.
OCAU is also bad for a host of reasons but thats another post.
In the early days, the comments section of OzBargain used to be really neat and compact, we'd find useful comments and contributions from knowledgeable people. Nowadays this seems to be diluted with random stuff that have no value and old tired memes.
Hey! An $80k Mercedes is a high yield investment, not a tired meme!
That guy should come to every ozbargain meetup, to boost attendance xD
driving in his 80k car of course
Wonder what Pauline Hanson thinks of 'OzBargain'??
Good place to buy cut price makeup, orange hair dye and d-cell batteries for her 'little' friend
Whirlpool used to be my main hangout, but I pretty much don't use it at all anymore, reddit/ozbargain is all I need.
Whirlpool is a difficult word to pronounce and remember for non English speaking people like me. Ozbargain is much easier.
I hope WP dies, the mods their treat people they don't like as if they are stuck to the bottom of your shoe; after they put you down & step on you.
The problem with WP is once you challenge a mod it is all over red rover for the user and you are banned. My friend who is still there says there are heaps of people in the feedback thread regarding why WP isn't popular any more getting binned or getting a outright ban. It seems in the Feedback thread the mods and the owner are still not listening to what the users want and are banning them or binning them which isn't a way to run a forum. You should always be open to constructive criticism.
No wonder the discussion posts here have been pathetic lately. Whirlpool users coming over
If you don't like it don't read it. Why come here and flame everyone.
is this thread going to get closed like the other one? I was going to say in the other one that I was on WP for 10 years & had 6,000 posts, but I was not allowed to reply; sounds familiar?
I've been on the receiving end of two harsh mod's that just back each other. I'm leaving there.
+1 here, I just requested my account to be removed by WP.
why ? aggressive mods there, the mods there like to obtain satisfaction for their sad lives by removing posts from users and warning them. A bit of power play using electrons….
WP forum was useful in the early days of ADSL.
Too many arseholes, and people with agenda infiltrated the site.
The Mods dont do there job properly, and there seems to be cliches developing between some mods and posters too.
I agree, the problem with that site is over zealous moderators.
reddit>whirlpool