At last something decent to use your amazon prime membership on.
Solid price for an 8TB external harddrive to keep all your linux isos.
Cheapest price ever according to camelcamelcamel
According to my best friend Futaris it’s the best price per TB he has ever seen. Onya Futaris.
Enjoy :)
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no gst added when I went to checkout
so I guess GST is already applied?
Order Summary
Items: $224.29
Delivery: $0.00
Order Total: $224.29
GST is definitely already added, heres the breakdown
Amazon Global Store Order Summary
Items: $203.90
Delivery: $0.00
Total before GST: $203.90
GST: $20.39
Order Total: $224.29
I think the ps4 has top vents. Probably not a good idea to put this on it as it might overheat.
All my isos take up alot of room :)
Onya Futaris
One would expect the AU power pack, not the US as in the pictures on the AU site:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41MCvRt8DML…
It’ll be a US power pack considering it’s sold from Amazon US (through Amazon AU).
I have same drive purchased from OW last year and the adapter is universal with different region clip ons
Don't have the same drive, but have bought bought Seagate Backup Plus drives from both Aus and the US in the past. The US ones come with a fixed US only adapter, while the Aus ones do indeed come with an adapter with interchangeable plugs. This is for identical models and capacity.
I have the same drive purchased from Amazon US this year and the adapter is universal mains voltage but a fixed US plug.
The Australian retail versions do have a universal adaptor.
The ones bought from/thru Amazon US only have a US adaptor (non modular).
Surely our new taxes should cover AU plugs for all imports now?
Our new taxes goes to our government not to the company
If the ATO were to audit anyone, it would be the big guns like Amazon and Ebay. Small obscure company from China that no-one has heard of - less unlikely. Otherwise why would Amazon US pull out of the Australian market if it wasnt enforceable and collectible?
I bought 6 of these from Amazon US about 10 months ago and all came with a US only plug. Thankfully I just ripped out the drives and used em in my NAS..
What brand and model inside? Thanks
Seagate SMR drives inside, not ideal for NAS.
Seagate BarraCuda Compute ST8000DM004.
Run 6 of them in a HP N54L Microserver running Windows 10 and Drive Bender to merge all the drives into a single partition.
Works quite well.
@pinkybrain: Yes they are SMR drives. Yes they are suitable to run in a NAS provided you don't run them in a RAID configuration. Drive Bender isn't really RAID. It just combines a bunch of drives into a single partition. I don't really delete/move files around so it's great.
"Drive Bender is the class leading storage pooling technology for Microsoft Windows. Developed by Division-M, Drive Bender allows for file redundancy via file duplication, and unlike RAID, does not require any proprietary drive format or complicated setup."
"Drive Bender presents multiple hard drives as a single pool of file storage. A pool can be represented as either a Windows drive letter, or a network shared drive. You can add internal and external drives, RAID devices, you can even add NAS devices to the pool."
@t123: thanks for this info, been thinking to buy the drive for my NAS with RAID configs, but I think best wait for the appropriate NAS drive
For $30 more on Amazon AU, you can get WD 8TB external drives with EMAZ drives inside (which are unlabelled HGST helium 5400rpm 256mb). I have 4 of them, designed for raid.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Book-Desktop-External-Drive-WDBBGB…
If you're going to use SMR drives as RAID, be aware. SMR drives are slow at writes by design.
They tend to be good with 'cold' storage, i.e. writing larger blocks or storing archives, but they work as if it were trying to write a book by taking a whole chapter out, sorting the pages again, then putting the whole chapter back in the book.
Consider them a write once type of drive.
As for Drive Bender in windows, it's good for JBOD, i.e. putting all the drives into a pool so you don't need to choose, everything goes into a single drive letter that acts as a single drive. You can also get Stablebit DrivePool, which works in the same kind of way, arguably more reliably. But it's $30 USD i believe.
From there, it will duplicate an entire folder with files over multiple drives if you choose to, which can make throughput a lot faster for small reads, i.e. loading games.
But, if youre going for speed, get an SSD instead. even a slow SSD will be 10-20x faster than a HDD.
you can get WD easystore 8tb drives instead, which are 8tb EZAZ drives, which are more useful for RAID setups, and only a ~$10 USD difference versus the Amazon US price for the Seagate archive/SMR 8tb drives.
arguably more reliable than SMR, which are not designed to operate long hours, and can be prone to data loss due to the shingle writes.
@t123: Thanks for the URL and your suggestion! I wonder how many years warranty if I buy this one, as Amazon only states "
Manufacturer warranty may not apply but you may have other rights under law" in the ad
@toliman: Again, as I said before, they're not in a RAID array, more a JBOD, used to store movies, mp3s and image files. These never get moved around and are just used seldomly.
I have a second backup server that mirrors the source.
I use both products, Drive Bender and Drive Pool, but prefer Drive Bender. Been running this setup for about 5 years and haven't had an issue, and just replace the drives every so often.
$223 here, delivery included: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-External-Desktop-Storage-Phot… also 2 months free Adobe photography
NEWS BREAK - They don't ship here anymore bud ;)
I thought they said they were gonna make amazon.com redirect to Amazon.com.au after they stopped selling here
They pick a few items and increase the price for us Aussie suckers. Some stuff is three times the price.
You can still purchase from the US store, you just need to ship to a US address and have it redirected. The shipping company will add GST though. I've used Shipitto and MyUS without any problems.
Can you buy from a non-AU account and have it shipped to Australia? Like, if my Canadian parents buy it and send it to me?
@Dex:
Yes. Not sure what happens at the border though regarding assessment or collection of GST. Maybe if its marked as a gift it would go through?
@gadgetguy: Historically anything under $1000 value you're safe from GST collection, but obviously a lot is changing at the moment. I guess I'm more interested in whether they'll actually ship it in the first place. I'll ask my dad to go through to checkout and see if it lets him add an aussie address
@Dex:
Although I haven’t tested it yet, my understanding is that amazon.com will not ship to Australia regardless of whether the actual owner is US based etc, because they’re not collecting GST on anything but amazon.com.au.
Using a reshipper though is incredibly easy. I have MyUS.com setup to automatically forward packages on to me as soon as they arrive, and they’ve been very quick.
@Dex:
Yeah you are missing the point. You'd have to get it shipped to them and they would separately need to ship to you. That's the scenario I thought you were describing. As Praeto says, just using them to order but with your address won't fly.
@gadgetguy: I'm not missing the point, I just want to avoid using a reshipping service. It's mainly the principle of the thing.
As Praeto says, just using them to order but with your address won't fly.
What Praeto said was he hadn't tested it yet… so I did.
Last night, my brother (in Canada) tried ordering an 8Tb Seagate Expansion last night and he said it accepted an Australian delivery address fine - ie, getting past the screen where it tells you it won't ship to Australia.
Makes sense, since only Australian consumers have to pay Australian GST.
Next step is to try it myself using a VPN, and completing the order with an Australian credit card.
@Dex:
It will be interesting to see the package has any issues at customs or just sails straight through. Please let us know!
Can the disks be removed from these?
yes
I have all these shitcoins I want to spend, why don't Amazon accept shitcoins?
Because they're shit.
Next question.
But when Lambo?
Jan 11 2019
You were talking BitCoins?
Turns out there's something called 'Amazon Coins', but know nothing about them.
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Hey Guys, I did some research and found out what is the exact hard drive inside this, I think someone may need this info.
Seagate Archive 8TB 3.5“ Internal Hard Drive HDD SATA III 6.0Gb/s 5900 RPM 128MB.
Awesome, thanks a heap!
To anyone interested, here's a reddit thread comparing them to WD RED and other drives. It appears they're stable, but very slow.
Notably "The Archives have a 25GB non-shingled cache area. Go over that and the speed goes to shit. I'm talking down below 2MB/s. If you're keeping within that 25GB writes at a time, then they do 150-170MB/s no problems."
Are you sure? I use SMR disks and I have filled whole disk in one session, to backup stuff and never saw it going down as low as 2MB/s. Get about 90MB/s sustained speeds.
It will only go to 2MB/s if you give it a task that it can't keep up with.
Large files are considered easy for the drive to manage.
This is wrong, it depends completely on what you are copying as to if it can keep up, or if you will get temporary slowdowns while it catches up.
I use one of these to backup RAW image files after a days photo shoot.
I've copied 600gb in one session and it writes at 150mb/sec.
Each file is about 22mb.
Gerry Harvey Y U add GST? :(
Looking to get this for a friend for him to use on his xbox to store all games. Do you think the 5900rpm would be suitable for this purpose?
In he a patient friend?
I wouldn't recommend an SMR drive for this. Read above…
8tb are SMR apparently, i already have one that works fine but a little slow.
Again.. all the misinformation…
its a lottery,
You may get a Archive SMR drive.. or the Barracuda Compute PMR…
The older tend to be archives, the newer ones.. seem to be Barracuda Computes 5900RPM (not 7200rpm).. but this is NOT a hard or fast rule..
You get a US plug pack as stated above.. and bascially no warranty.. other than the amazon DOA..
at times the Iron Wolfs have been (7200rpm,) have been on special for around the $270 with the Ebay specials)
Is going through the drive lottery and losing warranty worth it for between 50-70… and getting a slower drive…
It may be if you buy a number for a nas.. and get a spares with the money saved…
But if you get the archive drives.. you would be mightily pissed off..
This is only good for the die hard people needing massive storage prepared to take the risks….
I took the risk when the drives were cheaper. and the local prices were towards the $350 mark.
So far.. so good.. got Barracuda Computes.. imported from Amazon US.. when they were about $180-$190 dleivered…
If I still had a shred of faith in Seagate, this would be a good deal.
These days it's a Seagate Barracuda Compute [ST8000DM004][5425 rpm] which is a SMR drive.I have filled it up once and wouldn't recommend it for active R/W's as they are bloody slow.
Is this good for shucking?
I'd recommend instead the Seagate Expansion 8TB. Managed to order 8 of them before the restrictions in July. They came out at $214 AUD each delivered ($149 USD + shipping).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HAPGEIE/
You can still order on amazon.com if you use a forwarder and these have the Barracuda Compute inside which uses TGMR (not the older SMR archive drive).
I've had 8 of these running SHR2 (RAID) in a Synology NAS for several months now.
I'm sure someone will come along rubbishing Seagate in a moment but I've had 8 (shucked) 4TB Seagate drives (the predecessors to these 8TB models) running pretty much 24x7 as SHR2 in my previous NAS without incident since 2013. One of these drives has just started developing bad sectors so will need to be replaced but I'm happy with 5 years use @ 24 x 7 for the price I paid.
I'm currently giving this a try:
That 8TB and the one listed are meant to both be capable of having the compute.
Paying extra to mess around with a forwarding company doesn't seem worth it.
Might be able to get then from B&H. Unless you are confident of getting the compute in the ones posted here.
About $250 AUD from B&H by the looks of it
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1268951-REG/seagate_s…
Kicking myself I didn't buy more of these before the Amazon shipping ban came into effect. I only got the one drive
What would be the warranty process on this from the US? Would we have to ship it back all the way there at our own expense?
![[Amazon Prime] Seagate Backup Plus Hub 8TB External Desktop Hard Drive $224.29 Delivered @ Amazon US via Amazon AU](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/28/393528.jpg?h=0092e9ec)
would this be taxed GST at checkout?
Also, thoughts for using this on a PS4?