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Dell Inspiron Gaming Desktop Intel i5-8400 8GB RAM 1TB HDD GTX 1060 6GB $999.20 Delivered @ Dell eBay

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Dell Inspiron Gaming Desktop Intel i5-8400 8GB RAM 1TB HDD GTX 1060 6GB $999.20 Delivered @ Dell eBay
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kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 21:26 ebay.com.au (3093 clicks)
Last edited 18/05/2018 - 22:52 by 3 other users
PROTOTYPE

The deal for Dell we all know and only some love is back again from a 1 month hiatus.

FAQ:

Can this run all the latest games?
Yes. On ultra settings too.

Why is it so cheap?
These computers come with generic parts i.e. the unpopular/not-well-known branded RAM, PSU, HDD etc

Will I be fine playing games from this right from the box?
Yes.

SPECIFICATIONS:

PROCESSOR
Intel® Core™ i5 8400 (6-Core/6-Thread, 9MB Cache, up to 4GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology)
OPERATING SYSTEM
Windows 10 Home (64bit) English
MEMORY
8GB DDR4 at 2400MHz
HARD DRIVE
1TB 7200RPM 6Gb/s
VIDEO CARD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5
WIRELESS
802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.1, Dual Band 2.4&5 GHz, 1x1
KEYBOARD
Dell Multimedia Keyboard KB216 Black (English)
MOUSE
Dell Optical Mouse MS116 Black
WARRANTY
1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis
PORTS
Front Ports
1x Audio Combo Jack
1x SuperSpeed USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C™
1x SuperSpeed USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-A
2x USB 2.0

Rear Ports
4x SuperSpeed USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-A
2x USB 2.0
1x RJ-45 Gigabit Ethernet Port
1x Full Size DisplayPort
1x Microphone Port
1x Front L/R surround line-out
1x Rear L/R surround
1x Center/subwoofer surround
SLOTS
Memory Slots
4x UDIMM Slots

Expansion Slots
1X PCIex16, 1X PCIex4, 2X PCIex1
CHASSIS
CPU Cooling Options
Air Cooling – Smart cooling thermal solution
LED Lighting
Polar Blue LED illumination
Bluetooth
4.1
Chipset
Intel® Z370 Express Chipset
Form Factor
Mid Tower Desktop
CHASSIS OPTIONS
460W with Air Cooling, Polar Blue LED lighting, and Tray load Slim ODD DVD
DIMENSIONS
Height: 458.86 mm (18.07") x Width: 216 mm (8.5") x Depth: 437.53 mm (17.23")
Starting Weight: 13.74 Kg (30.27 lbs)
SOUND CARD
Built-in High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Solution
COMMUNICATIONS
Qualcomm DW1810 1x1 802.11ac Wi-Fi Wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.1
POWER
460 Watt Internal Power Supply

Personally I recommend to add an SSD for that sweet, sweet boot up time and replace the PSU for a branded one such as EVGA (10yr international warranty) because your PSU is your most important part and I wouldn't rely on the PSU supplied for the long-term.

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closed Comments

  • hexedhavoc on 16/05/2018 - 21:32
    +3

    Got this from the last deal, great little machine :)

    • th123 on 16/05/2018 - 21:59

      Did delivery take 5-6 weeks like it's estimating on ebay?

      • hexedhavoc on 16/05/2018 - 22:01
        +2

        they sort of stuffed up my order and i had to wait a bit longer, but i still got it i think within 3 weeks

      • Peanutbutterjelly69 on 16/05/2018 - 23:36
        +1

        I got it in about 2-3 weeks

      • ShinK0 on 16/05/2018 - 23:56
        +2

        Dell have always been good to me. Max is 1.5 weeks.

      • DreadEmperor on 17/05/2018 - 23:57

        Ordering my Inspiron via Dell eBay, it took ~3 weeks,

  • browsin on 16/05/2018 - 21:49
    +2

    Also purchased from the last deal and it's probably one of the best $1000 I've spent.

    • DefconOne on 17/05/2018 - 08:49
      +1

      Me too. I paid $1120 for this model but with a 128GB SSD. Insane value. It arrived in about 2 weeks, very well packaged and has been smashing Far Cry 5 on Ultra settings from day 1. When RAM prices come down a bit i'll drop an extra 8Gb DDR4 stick in it.

      The only issue I am encountering (as I am new to SSD's) is that everything wants to install on the SSD c:/ drive and I can't always redirect the install to the D:/ 1Tb HDD.

      • Blinkenlights on 17/05/2018 - 10:50
        +3

        IMHO, DefconOne, Changing Steam helped, at least with installing games.

        To change, run Steam, upper right hand corner: "Steam—>Settings—>Library"
        and under Steam Library Folders, add in a new directory in your D drive
        and make it the Default. This makes all new games install under D but whatever
        is still installed under C will stay there unless you delete and reinstall.

        • DefconOne on 17/05/2018 - 16:32

          Great, thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try.

      • kenunderscore on 17/05/2018 - 12:09

        To add to what airborn said;

        Check the options/settings/preferences tab of every application that has the ability to download and set their download locations to your D:/ Drive. For easy access to folders such as the "Downloads" folder, just make a shortcut for your desktop etc

      • Agret on 18/05/2018 - 00:16
        +1

        Go to your user folder either through adding it to desktop, navigating C:\users\yourname or just hit WINDOWSKEY+R and type a . and hit enter.

        When in there you will see all the user folders e.g. Desktop, Downloads, Pictures, Music.

        Right click on each one and there is a Location tab, move them all to your D:\ i prefer to make the folder layout similar as D:\USERDATA\Pictures, D:\USERDATA\Music, etc.

        A lot of applications use these paths as the default locations for storage and they will pickup the new directory this way :)

  • effraye on 16/05/2018 - 21:51

    How do I add parts?

    • kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 22:41
      +2

      Because its from Dell directly I don't think they give you the option to. Besides, you're better off financially to buy your own desired parts and installing them yourself - which is as simple as plug and play.

      • pinkybrain on 16/05/2018 - 22:42

        does it work out cheaper?

        • kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 23:10
          +2

          This is assuming you can add parts, but you can't to this posting compared to if it was listed by an authorized re-seller. Even if you could, they will charge you a premium on top of what the part is worth + installation. It will always be cheaper to build/install parts yourself - except in the case of this listing which is why i think it has such exceptional value: To build this PC with these exact parts by yourself, it would cost you roughly the same. Whereas with buying pre-built PCs, you normally save 20-30% when building yourself.

        • pinkybrain on 16/05/2018 - 23:41

          @kenunderscore:

          Don't understand your comment..

          So all these parts in this list, if we buy it ourselves to build
          would it be cheaper or more expensive than this deal?

          Any idea the motherboard they are using?
          If we build ourselves we can choose the best motherboard that has features we want.

          How upgradeable are Dell desktop PCs?
          and are we allowed or will void the warranty?

          I know if we build our own we can select the best parts.
          No idea what brands are in these dell pc parts.

        • Tech5 on 17/05/2018 - 01:44
          -8

          @pinkybrain:

          If you managed to find generic components, you would roughly be looking at the same price, may be verryyy slightly cheaper.

          GTX1060- $300
          I5-8400- $250
          PSU 500w- $50
          1tb HDD- $60
          Mobo- $50
          Wireless card- $50
          Windows- $50
          8gb RAM- $80
          Case- $50
          Mouse and Keyboard- $20

          = $960.

          If you start using branded components, this would take you to $1200ish
          Basically, building this PC yourself is not worth it. This is not normally the case, where the prebuilt one will cost more than if you bought the same components and built it yourself

        • xuqi on 17/05/2018 - 02:00
          +13

          @Tech5:

          You $960 pricing is way off the mark.

          Good-luck buying a new 6GB GTX1060 for $300 as they're selling for ~$450 (Google 6GB GTX1060 Turbo price Australia).

          8GB of DDR4 2400 RAM isn't 80, it's more like $120.

          $50 for a Z370 motherboard? More like $200.

          The 80+ PSU Dell uses is of much higher quality and would cost you more than $50 to buy.

          A proper legit Windows 10 Pro license costs ~$100 not the $50 you've counted.

          Parts Dell use in their builds whilst not enthusiast grade, are far better than the cheapest low-end model/brands.

        • DaTa on 17/05/2018 - 07:29

          @xuqi: not to mention support warranty etc..

        • Tech5 on 17/05/2018 - 08:38

          @xuqi:

          Xuqi, I may have been off the park for the GTX1060. However for the others?

          Did I at any point say identical components? Or did I use the word "Generic"?

        • surethang on 17/05/2018 - 17:28

          @Tech5:

          Generic Windows 10 you say.

          50% cheaper!

          Sign me up, sir.

          ;)

  • DoesntEvenMatter on 16/05/2018 - 21:53
    +3

    Hey OP not great advice about changing the PSU. I believe doing so would void your warranty and I think your under the assumption that it's a simple modular unit but I believe Dell mobo has a proprietary connection that would need a adapters to work, which is messy

    • kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 21:59
      +2

      No proprietary connection, replaced in my mates one. You'd be replacing the whole PSU which would have its own connector to the motherboard and the wall plug.

      It probably would void the warranty though. Change it after a year, problem solved.

      • kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 22:03

        It is worth noting that he bought the Dell machine with the 1070 GPU, so this could be different in this case like how you've mentioned.

      • taeryn on 17/05/2018 - 07:58

        What model PSU did you get?
        And as an aside, has anyone done this on this specific model?
        It was the one thing I wasn't sure about in case I want to upgrade my GPU down the track.

    • Diji1 on 16/05/2018 - 22:10

      Dell mobo has a proprietary connection

      I think their server motherbooards do.

    • xuqi on 17/05/2018 - 02:01

      Some older models used a different connection but this current generation is a standard ATX.

    • ClintonL on 17/05/2018 - 11:01
      +1

      Yeah not good advice changing it, apart from the warranty issue there is no reason to upgrade the psu unless you're getting a more powerful video card.
      It'd be a 80 rated powersupply and be of sufficient quality and been tested with this config.

    • gnarkill on 17/05/2018 - 11:18

      Is there suddenly a massive problem with PSU's? The old cheap ones were always OK, developed a whine after 6 years or so if you were unlucky and in very rare circumstances gave up but usually wouldn't short anything when they did. The time and cost of replacing one to prevent a slim possibility of damage to other parts seems like the financial equivalent of an extended warranty.

  • Circly on 16/05/2018 - 22:01

    Just pop an ssd in and its perfect

  • Stealthzor on 16/05/2018 - 22:18
    -5

    description says send from Malaysia office. becareful there can be customs fee due to actual price is $1,249 before discount

    • FIVEDOLLAR on 16/05/2018 - 22:19

      It is $1,499 before discount.

    • Confiliate on 16/05/2018 - 22:23

      GST is already included in the price so there won't be any other fees

    • Kurohayabusa on 16/05/2018 - 22:24
      +3

      Dell AU computers are all manufactured in Malaysia. When you order one, it is made and shipped directly from that factory, but is considered Australian stock. Since you're ordering Australian stock from an Australian company, there are no import fees involved.

  • kronicmacstigator on 16/05/2018 - 22:20
    +7

    I just did the sums and this is insane value unless you absolutely want a custom build. I am on a Dell right now and I've never been a brand name person but I like it. I bought mine as a 'stop gap' (long story) and quite like the internal design. So tempted to pop the $1k

    • kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 22:34
      +1

      I agree! It comes with a keyboard and mouse so factor in the price of a monitor and mousepad and you've got yourself a fine setup

    • magic8ballgag on 17/05/2018 - 08:26
      +1

      I bought mine as a 'stop gap' (long story)

      I'm interested to read the story if you're willing to take the time to write about it.

      • blitz on 17/05/2018 - 10:52
        +1

        I'm happy to read it too as long as you include a car chase somewhere in it.

  • drazenm on 16/05/2018 - 22:47
    +1

    Can anyone recommend something in price range $500~750 for Web browsing, YouTube etc. Would lean more towards custom build as most parts come with 3 years warranty. Thank you

    • tonyamazing on 16/05/2018 - 22:55
      +1

      Get this CPU and Mobo ASUS Ryzen 3 Raven Ridge Bundle with 8gb RAM option, throw in SSD, case and PSU and you're looking at around $500.00 + postage.

      Better pricing if you can source the RAM, SSD, Case and PSU on sale.

      • drazenm on 16/05/2018 - 23:04

        Thank you very much, i appreciat it :)

    • digilinx on 17/05/2018 - 12:04

      I recommend a NUC or similar.
      they're easy to set up, but the main draw of them is their tiny size.

      I've set up half a dozen of them for relatives/friends who just needed a computer to surf web and watch videos, non gaming activities.

      I have always gone for the i3 versions.
      get a stick of ram (8gb SODIMM)
      m2 ssd (128gb)
      and you're set (you can get more ram or larger ssd if you wish)

      OS + monitor and kb and mouse. as required

  • bobzor on 16/05/2018 - 22:54

    Ultra? Yeah maybe 1080@30

    • twocsies on 16/05/2018 - 23:10
      +2

      Such a vague statement to claim "all the latest games", although it can do most of them at 1080p and near ultra at 60+. There will always be games that can't be played at ultra on current systems. And definitely not all games in ULTRA HD (4K).

    • kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 23:14
      +8

      I'm running a 1060 6GB and run all my games on Ultra, these are my FPS when in battle (where the FPS actually matters):

      PUBG: 73~80fps
      CSGO: 220fps
      Farcry 5: 70~89fps
      GTA V: 50~60fps
      Battlefield 1: 71~80fps

      edit: if you wanted to run games at ultra 4K you would be on the more technologically advanced end of PC users and would know not to even bother with a GTX1060

      • garvani on 17/05/2018 - 09:05

        Ill chuck in League of Legends as its the only game i play, this exact build i get between 200-150fps depending on action on screen.

      • martyn on 17/05/2018 - 09:31

        Now try Witcher 3 ;)

        • Fybre on 17/05/2018 - 10:03

          On Witcher 3 with Ultra I get about 55- 60fps, on high about 70fps

  • furyou on 16/05/2018 - 23:07

    Is it better to buy sth like this or just buy parts and upgrade an existing box?
    Don't want crappy Dell Multimedia Keyboard etc.

    • kenunderscore on 16/05/2018 - 23:20

      To put this in perspective: it would cost you the pretty much the same to build this pc with the exact parts and specifications, so buying this because its pre-built is more efficient. If you want better specifications for your PC then you would obviously be better off buying parts and upgrading an existing box.

      • magic8ballgag on 17/05/2018 - 08:28
        +1

        so buying this because its pre-built is more efficient

        It's really only more efficient if the person buying it doesn't have experience or can't be bothered building a PC with custom components.

    • idonotknowwhy on 17/05/2018 - 08:32
      +7

      If you have the time, build it yourself.
      I used this logic last year when I bought mine:

      To put this in perspective: it would cost you the pretty much the same to build this pc with the exact parts and specifications, so buying this because its pre-built is more efficient.

      Turns out, you'll get the cheapest, shittiest parts. My Dell has been plagued with issues.

      I got the ryzen box and:
      -> Their "RX570" is actually an RX470 from 2016 (manufacture date) with a flashed bios of a RX570)
      -> The PCI-E 16x slot actually runs at 8x
      -> The PSU is a generic 450w piece of shit
      —> I had to use a hacksaw to cut the case to upgrade the PSU to something reasonable
      —> If you open it up, looks like a 1990's build with wires everywhere.

      I was lazy and wanted to save time (first time I haven't built a PC myself since I was like 13). Won't make that mistake again.
      Upgradability is extremely limited.

      • Mixhael on 17/05/2018 - 08:44

        This is sad, but hilarious to hear

      • Georgevic on 17/05/2018 - 11:00

        I'm not surprised about the cost cutting but ffs you expect good cablework from these big name brands.

  • vince088 on 16/05/2018 - 23:12

    How are these with upgrade-ability later on?
    Can i change any part i want to upgrade?
    is there some kind of Dell bios/hardware/software lock etc?

  • MrZ on 17/05/2018 - 00:37

    Very good value for money, but 1 year warranty kind of detracts from the value, somewhat. If you put this together yourself, most components would have a 3 year warranty.

    I also feel like they could have shaved the price down further by going with a B360 chipset instead of the Z370 (which is sort of overkill for a machine like this). Going for the cheaper chipset would have cut at least $30 off the price of the machine ($969). And they could have omitted wi-fi and bluetooth, which most desktop users don't need, and gone with a 5400RPM HDD instead of 7200PM, seeing as most will fit a SSD.

    • kenunderscore on 17/05/2018 - 01:22
      +4

      I'd like to add though that the majority of people who buy pre-built PCs aren't familiar with computer parts, if it came without wi-fi and bluetooth i guarantee that Dell tech support is going to have a lot of calls from people asking why they can't connect to the wi-fi. I definitely agree that they could have gone for a B350/B360 as you don't need the extra USB 3.1 slots or the multi-GPU option (price savings can be as much as $80 even). And if they dropped it to a 5400RPM HDD, it would be too slow (boot time wise). You can't assume that anyone that buys this will install an SSD because the majority of people who are capable of knowing how to do that wouldn't be buying pre-built in the first place.

      • MrZ on 17/05/2018 - 04:22

        Fair points. By the way there is no B350, only B360. At the OEM level, the price difference would be about $30 which is what I was quoting. At retail, more like $40-$45 or more. I see B360s are selling for around $115 at the cheapest, while cheapest Z370s are $160.

    • Agret on 17/05/2018 - 01:35
      +4

      I think most new desktop users do opt for wifi to connect up. Much easier for rental properties too.

    • Georgevic on 17/05/2018 - 11:02

      Plenty of people need wifi in a desktop, you don't always have the ideal house layout you want.

  • Talmid on 17/05/2018 - 06:13

    Hi thanks for the post.
    THinking of buying this now given the comments.
    Just wondering if anyone can help regarding the adding ssd part. Has not touched computer interiors for ages.
    Are there extra SATA slots? How do I port the os after installing? Also,how many hard disk can I install?
    Thanks

    • Lane Myer on 17/05/2018 - 07:06

      Pretty sure it has three slots for HDD/SSD in total - then there are two bays for DVD/BluRay. Again, one is taken up by the DVD player. The first slot is used by the 1TB and you've got two slots free. I got this deal last time around and it took about 2-3 weeks to arrive, which was much quicker than the 6 week estimate at the time of ordering.

      I put an SSD in it with no real problem. Cables were a bit fiddly though, quite tight and inflexible.

      • DKZ370 on 17/05/2018 - 07:08
        +1

        Would this rig be compatible with : https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/378562

        • misterpotatomato on 17/05/2018 - 07:44
          +1

          I'd also love to know if it is NVMe compatible :D

        • taeryn on 17/05/2018 - 08:02

          @misterpotatomato:
          I've only got a standard m2 ssd in mine, but I'm aware of a few members here that definitely have installed NVME ssds.

          Details should be in the previous posts.

        • The J man on 17/05/2018 - 12:18

          Yes it is, I installed the 500gb version of the 960 into this exact machine.

          Took a bit of fiddling around, but managed to turn the ssd into my boot drive.

          Feel free to message me if you would like a walkthrough on the steps I took to enable this, cheers.

        • Alphinx on 26/06/2018 - 12:15

          @Baltoski: Hey there Baltoski, I had just recently Purchased a Samsung 960 NVME SSD and couldn't seem to fit it in the motherboard, could you please kindly guide me? Much appreciated, have a good day.

          Kind regards,
          Ron.

        • The J man on 27/06/2018 - 08:03

          @Alphinx:

          Hi mate, sorry just saw your message. Pm me and I'll get back to you tonight with some tips which should help.

      • pikatech on 09/06/2018 - 18:29

        Got this not too long ago and thinking of installing a SSD. Do you mind sharing how you did it or how it looks? As you mentioned I find the cables to be really inflexible and not sure how I'll be able to manage to connect the power to the SSD.

  • zzkazu on 17/05/2018 - 07:28

    Anybody added RAM to one of these?I think 16GB would be a minimum baseline..

    • taeryn on 17/05/2018 - 08:01

      I'm currently running Kingston Technology HyperX FURY Black 16GB (2x8) 2933MHz DDR4 HX429C17FB2K2/16.
      Running at full speed.

    • magic8ballgag on 17/05/2018 - 08:29
      +1

      I think 16GB would be a minimum baseline..

      A lot of people need to get out of the mindset that they need the most possible RAM, this box will run just fine with 8GB.

  • Jcruzi on 17/05/2018 - 09:23

    Does this one have onboard wifi card?

  • tightm8 on 17/05/2018 - 09:28

    Pretty good deal/value especially when you consider the inflation in part prices due to crypto.

    Also saves time building etc.

    • idonotknowwhy on 17/05/2018 - 09:38

      Pretty good deal/value especially when you consider the inflation in part prices due to crypto.

      The most inflated part here is the 8GB RAM, which you can't really blame us for.
      GPU prices are not very inflated now.

  • parallelparadox on 17/05/2018 - 09:54

    That is a pretty good deal. A question for all the 'learned' PC enthusiasts here. Is there anything that can be done about the overclocking limitation in the BIOS? If not, what is the overall impact on the utilisation of the PC when playing games on ultra settings? Thanks

  • Neilzy on 17/05/2018 - 10:37
    +1

    Just some insight into why dell systems are cheap

    https://youtu.be/ZgG--VevbyI

    Alot of good points in there from greg

    • idonotknowwhy on 17/05/2018 - 11:39

      nice video, don't know why you're being neg'd.

    • andrew229 on 17/05/2018 - 15:19
      +3

      the guy on the youtube channel is complaining about the look of the GPU far too much…..

      • xuqi on 17/05/2018 - 23:37

        Specifically the Green colour. The guys went on and on about a the Green PCB on a system with and enclosed side.

    • Circly on 17/05/2018 - 20:13

      The XPS and Inspiron desktops you always see on here use the actual founders cards.

      Also on my XPS the ssd is a Toshiba, hdd is a Seagate, CPU is Intel, ram is a skynix (big manufacturer of ram).
      Only. Thing they really cheap out on is psu and motherboard.

      Even then it does what its supposed to do… Game at a good price.

      Only enthusiasts should really bother with building their own.

  • AkiraSaito on 17/05/2018 - 10:59
    +2

    Great deal.
    If you buy parts individually,
    CPU $250
    GPU $450
    8G RAM $150 (I'd upgrade to 16G)
    1TB HDD $80
    That's $900 already

  • Crowpeck on 17/05/2018 - 13:15

    When you click on go to deal it takes you to eBay and the price is $1220 or there about. How do you get it for $999? Any help is appreciated

    • DKZ370 on 17/05/2018 - 13:26

      use the code PROTOTYPE at checkout

      • Crowpeck on 17/05/2018 - 14:09

        Thanks for your help. 👍

  • Ghosteye on 17/05/2018 - 15:00

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgG--VevbyI

    Anyone have thoughts about this? I just watched this video and it points to bad engineering and just blatant profit margin abuse moves on this build. wdyt?

    • idonotknowwhy on 17/05/2018 - 15:10
      +1

      Well see my post from my personal experience buying the Ryzen5 "RX570" built last year.
      The RX570 was released in 2017 and yet the manufacture date of my "RX570" was 2016, and it had the same specs as the 2016 RX470.
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/378660#comment-5952073

      Also do a google search for "dell rx570" and click the first result if you want to hear it from other people.

      Worst part for me is, some less tech savvy people I know +1'd my order lol

  • AlienC on 17/05/2018 - 17:43

    @Fybre: how about strategy games

    Dawn of war series
    Company of heroes series
    Total war series
    Ashes of the singularity
    Age of empires definitive edition

    • kenunderscore on 17/05/2018 - 21:10

      Many of the birds eye view strategy games are more CPU intensive, rather than majority of games on the market relying on the power of your GPU. I personally don't play any of these games but my friend who has the exact same gpu as the one in the listing plays AoE on Ultra and locked frames at 60fps. Buttery smooth

  • Veritas96 on 19/05/2018 - 12:52

    whats the 2yr breakdown cover from Virginia Surety - AU $226.26 do?
    is it even usseful for us aussies?

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