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Bunnings has just started selling these and I can't find a cheaper 10W LED globe. No idea on quality. Enjoy :)
Click 10W 806 Lumen LED Globes $3 @ Bunnings
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It's on their website, so likely nationwide.
It's on their website, so pretty sure you can assume it's all stores.
It's nationwide.
Except virtually every store around me in SA doesn't have them. Including the biggest.
Except virtually every store around me in SA doesn't have them.
Not too sure, but I think it's because South Australia doesn't have any electricity.
Special order counter.
I avoid eye contact with every Bunnings employee, both to save them the effort of saying hello and to also avoid the awkwardness of knowing they're forced to say hello but despise doing it 200 times a day.
I guess its like asking 'Do you greet people as they come into your house?'
@skrep: It's a store, not your private home. I come in because I need some screws and fertilizer, not because I appreciate your presence.
@Scab: Conversation would be hard. More than the obvious aspects would need to be kept under control if you needed to keep your job
- what needs drilling?
- what kind of screw do you want? / how long/how deep/where/etc.
- oh shit, the list is endless.
When I grow up, I might become a tradie, or work at Bunnings.
How many of posters does it take to tell someone it's nationwide?
Not a single one available in the Bathurst (NSW) store.
just a heads up, the warm white is very yellow in colour however great price especially for people swapping over from traditional globes
This is a very cheap and tempting offer, but it's worth bearing in mind the lights are quite inefficient. 80 lumen per watt. Philips and OSRAM lights for the standard price of between $7 and $13 (1400lm) achieve slightly over 100lm/w.
10w 80lm/w over 15,000 hours @ 30c/kWh = $45
8w 100lm/w over 15,000 hours @ 30c/kWh = $36The Philips/OSRAM for $7 is cheaper to buy and use than the $3 Click.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/philips-8w-warm-white-a-shape-bc…
The Philips/OSRAM for $7 is cheaper to buy and use than the $3 Click.
Thanks for this. Makes interesting reading :)
Would be great to know however how many hours of continuous use is required to reach the break-even point, where the cost of each globe is equal? I may be wrong, but I'm guessing 18 months of always-on makes the 8W cheaper to run after factoring in purchase cost?
Well, I just tried a few numbers and found the break even point is about 6600 hours.
10w at 6600hrs is $19.8, 8w is $15.84
8760 hours in a year, so over 3/4 of a year continuously on.
I have had a really good run with OSRAM and Philips LEDs. My first OSRAM from 2011 died recently, and it promised 25k hours. It was used about 18 hours a day so I estimate it got close to 30k hours. Some hallway 13W Philips LEDs just crossed an estimated 15k hours, but they are noticeably dimmer than fresh lights of the same lumen output.
My biggest disappointment was an IKEA LEDARE 1000lm. Most expensive of the lot and lasted maybe 2500hrs. A long way short of 25k printed on the box.
Thanks again :)
Could you claim warranty on the Ikea one (or not fit for purpose, not meeting specs, etc)?
@Gaz1: I have tried to find the receipt, but no luck. I write the installation date on the base of all my LEDs so I know how much it was used.
@nickxau: That's a good idea, but I'm in SA and the IKEA Family program didn't start here until September 2017. Light bulb was purchased November 2016.
@nickxau: I found the receipt (21 Nov 2016) for $17.95. I tried to return the product but the IKEA rep said it's over 365 days so no go. So if you're trying to return a bad LED to IKEA it appears you have one year. If I had kept the light bulb running 24/7 over that period I would have achieved less than 10,000 hours, quite a long way short of 25,000 printed on the box. Product lasted an estimated 2,500 hours of actual use.
@nickxau: I deposited the light bulb in IKEA's recycling bin, and won't buy any more. They're more expensive than brand name alternatives and come with the bonus handicap of only being available in E27.
Given the build quality, likely use scenerios, and the current rate of advancement, the click bulb is a better buy, despite being less efficient.
This is how efficiency figures can be deceiving. The phillips/osram bulbs might generate more lm/w, but they also consume more power (14w vs 9w for this one)How would a more efficient light bulb be deceiving? If I need 8w (Philips/OSRAM) instead of 10w (Click) to generate 800 lumen of light, isn't that a good thing?
By that logic, you'd be better off buying a high pressure sodium lamp (150 l/watt+, used in street lighting) so you could run that same light for 5.5w,
only
-HPS lamps don't come in sizes that small
-they give off a errie yellow light
-at the commonly available sizes, it would turn your room into a blinding hall of lightEfficiency is only one aspect, and while it is an important one, true, it is not the most important one
"By that logic, you'd be better off buying a high pressure sodium lamp"
That logic is not logical, as you then state in your three bullet points. The 80lm/w and 100lm/w products are directly comparable. They both promise 3000K light. Both use the same light fittings, and are of the same size. Both claim an average life expectancy of 15,000 hours.
The only differences between the two products are the brand names, price, and efficiency. One would suggest globally recognized brands such as Philips and OSRAM would be more trusted to produce a quality product than Click, but we can ignore this if you like.
The only two factors left are: price, and efficiency. Efficiency directly affects the overall price of using the product, so yes, I would say efficiency is by far the overriding factor here.
That logic is not logical
Sure it is. Your argument, if I have it right, is that a more efficient but higher initial cost solution can be cheaper (better for you and society/environment) in the long run. My argument is there is an algorithm for lighting cost, and it would suggest that the click bulb, while less efficient, is more cost effective for most people in moderate use areas, given its lower initial purchase cost.
I will concede though that in high use areas, the phillips/osram is the better choice.
is it possible to straight swap 12V MR16 GU5.3 halogen with LED type ?
or need something else like AC/DC driver etc. in between
Generally yes, but it also depends on your transformer. If it's electronic you may get flickering issues, or it may not even turn on if it has a minimum load limit.
If it's the iron core type, it will probably work fine, but won't be very efficient. The transformer itself will probably waste 10w.
Yes, as long as the MR16 halogen is powered either by:
1) a switchmode PSU that can also handle the low power requirements of the LED replacement, (a lot can't), or
2) they're powered by the old iron core transformers.The LED replacements also have to be able to work off 12VAC and generally the light fitting has to provide air flow around the LED MR16 so as they don't overheat.
I've replaced seven 50W MR16 halogens with Luce Bella LED 6W 500lm versions.
The seven I replaced all use icon core transformers, an eighth one uses a SPSU for the halogen which can't regulate at that low a current, (as bamzero says above, you get flickering).
That one 50W SPSU could power all eight but unfortunately it's a steel decking roof and I can't easily get to it to rewire the lot.
As others have written, yes it’s possible.
The economics vs changing the whole thing out probably doesn’t add up these days IMO.
Can't argue with the price, but I've learnt now a single globe under 1000 lumens isn't quite bright enough for any kind of task lighting.
I have a bunch of 800 lumen globes and 1000+ globes and the difference is quite noticable (something like the Philips 10.5W 1055 lumen is pretty good when you pick it up for half price at Woolies etc, otherwise the Philips 13W 1400 lumen if you need a little more light)
Ok Google, Click it On
can confirm not for internal use
can confirm not for internal use
Was it a bayonet or Edison screw?
edison screwed me with a bayonet
@BrodenIt:
That's scabs brother, he loves him. Unfortunately he doesn't share scab's sence of humour
hmm fist?
Big enough to illuminate your watches, fortunately.
We need more 5000K lights! I find that to be the best colour.
Costco sells Luminus brand LEDs in 4000k and 5000k, but only a limited power range (800lm and 1400lm, from memory).
Yuck. Hospital lights
Haha I'd prefer to call it daylight or natural white - https://www.bunnings.com.au/osram-ledvance-8w-900lm-daylight…
I don't mind warmer in certain areas, but definitely don't like cooler.
Lot's of downlights are 5000K and look great.
Click is probably not a brand for quality. I bought a lot of Click LED bulbs and kitchen downlights at Bunnings. Yesterday, a LED downlight in the kitchen has broken after 1 year of use. Admittedly, the light in the kitchen has been used more often than the rest, but one-year lifespan is a bit short.
Quote Google:
What is the life expectancy of a LED?
LED Life Expectancy. LEDs have a general life expectancy of 50 000 hrs. If you use your lights for 10 hours a day, this should be 13.7 yrs.13.7 years is optimistic. The power control circuitry in the bulb will probably die way before the LED does.
That still isn't excusable if they advertise it will last XX,XXX hours.
That's like a TV manufacturer advertising a TV will last 13 years, but then getting a pass when it only lasts 9 months. "Turns out the panel is fine, but the power control circuitry is dead, so you're out of luck. No warranty case here"
That's exactly how most manufacturers operate. Just replace 9 months with 12.
Philips and OSRAM rate most of their products at 15k hours, with some running at 25k. I think 50k is unrealistic as LEDs dim with age and the electronics running the power supply (mainly the capacitor) will die well before then.
The Click product would be good for situations where the light is not used very often. Maybe in the toilet, or an outside light. Install and forget about changing it for a decade.
It's also important to note LEDs die exponentially faster the harder they are driven. The LED indicator on your Hifi will likely last decades. Running LEDs at 80C makes them useful for lighting, but decreases lifespan.
More current drives up the output, requiring less chips and thus making a cheaper product, but also increases heat. Some manufacturers are tempted to produce a cheaper product at the cost of lifespan. Very high output LEDs are also likely to die sooner. Browsing through Bunnings recently I noticed a high output (over 2000lm) Philips B22/E27 product, but the estimated lifespan was only 10k hours.
Worth noting that even with only 15k hours and using them 4 hours a day, that's over 10 years.
Use it only very occasionally, and we're up to 2-3 decades.
Most recent build houses will be falling apart by then.
Agreed, I have not found Click brand things to be of great quality. Clusters comments below are a pretty good example of where they might be useful.
These are rubbish but okay at the price I guess
I'm into LED lighting and you can't get better than Philips - avoid the rest - although Osram is an acceptable alternative
Sounds like the retailers get more $$$ for selling Philips !!
They're more expensive that's for sure - probably the most expensive
But you get good light output, efficiency and lifespan
The Philips Master range is as good as it gets
You don't need the rolls royce of whatever for every task. It's nice to have a super cheap option for random stuff.
This crap will last a year - 2 tops
I've got Philips LEDs that are into their 6th year…….
So what, thats my point. Sure a nice reliable light is good for your living room or bed room. But for a random project I appreciate cheap crap to mess around with. E.g fish tank lighting
Thanks TA. You light up my life.
Is this enclosed fitting compatible?
Yes
You might want to check that, having just been to Bunnings to look for them, (none found), I looked at Philips, (3 x 11W 809LM for ~$11), and they say they are for use in 'Open Luminaires', ie. non-enclosed fixtures.
All the B22/E27 A20/A21 LED replacements made by Philips seemed to say the same thing.
Having them in an enclosed fixture will shorten their life but if it's for something like toilets, closets, etc it might not matter that much.
been waiting for a bulb deals for a while, thanks for posting op!
Just saw these at Bunnings Marion SA. Still stickered at $4, but had plenty of ES in stock.
Not sure why my comment was marked as off topic.
I've got a friend who has downlights with the old style bulbs and we haven't seen these before, so I wanted to know how big they were.
You can't get much more on topic than that.
New rules, OzBPC
Strange that I can't ask about the size of the bulbs on a light bulb deal, but these members are allowed to talk about profile pics and their favourite tv shows on a Xiaomi deal.
Product Dimensions (mm)
W:59 H:59 L:110
They look like standard A20 or A21 light bulbs, so should fit in any opening.
Dumb question, if we only care about $ and not brightness, i should focus on Wattage and not Lumens right?
If you want a light that's not used many hours per day, the Click is likely to be the better buy. Over the long term it's the power cost that makes the real difference in actual dollars spent, and not the purchase price of the product.
I don't see this at my local bunnings but I saw 2x 5W LED Compton 500Lumens for $6.
Innaloo WA had heaps. Also had a large selection of Osram LED globes for the same price.
OK, I've gotta ask something, which has been bugging me or ages… why the heck are E14 (small Edison screw) LED lightbulbs so rarely on special? Sometimes, nearly every other LED bulb seems to be on special, except them! Also, do nearly all lamps take E14 bulbs as a rule, or am I just unlucky? Because every single freaking lamp in my house takes E14 bulbs, dagnabbit! -__-
Bought a number of Click branded globe about a year but one has already failed, my advice is keep receipt in case yours fails before its stated hourly life time.
this plus zapals e27 socket splitter for double the lumens
Dimmable?