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Includes access to NYT Crossword and Cooking plus a bonus subscription to give to a mate.
Seems like a decent deal for a well respected newspaper, has to be better than the west at least.
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Fair question, shouldn't get negged for it.
Is this the newspaper that loves nazis?
Donald Trump regards NYT as 'fake'.. does that answer your question?
any impartial or objective person who hasn't abandoned all critical thinking skills would regard all corporate "news" media as "fake". the NYT is toilet paper, regardless of the illusion of left/right identity politics.
Well NYT have written sympathy pieces about Antifa, who despite their name are fascists, at least in their tactics, communist in their ideology.
I have no idea why you're being modded down. The NYT have been pro antifa.
Eg (and it's not the only article downplaying antifa's extreme violence)https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/antifa-left-wing-facti…
Antifa have beaten up police officers and attacked plenty of innocent people with fists and weapons like thick chains with locks on them. These people are extremely violent thugs.
If you look on YouTube, you will see plenty of antifa action against unarmed pedestrians, police, smashing up shopfronts in the middle of the night, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8QLT6tFWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwvTC4YU3gAntifa (the anti fascists) behave a lot like fascists. There is a very similar group called BAMN (by any means necessary) who have also tried to stab police, etc. The rule is if you don't like the look of someone (even a peaceful passer by), use any means necessary.
I put about 30 seconds effort into these links but I strongly recommend looking into how anyone would support violent thugs like antifa. I'm quite surprised to see anybody here either defend The NYT and/or antifa.
As for which paper to read, I'd take the Australian over The NYT. The content more relevant to Australia and you've got a few decent writers. I find Janet Albrechtsen to be superb. Anyone who has read Janet's work will know all about antifa!
This is Ozbargain.
Full of idealists especially in the wee hours. If you want support of conservative ideas then post after 6am when the older more conservative are awake and the younger, more idealists are asleep.
This isnt an anti ether post, its an observation based on many years of ozbargaining.
@DeWalt Thanks for the backup. Yes with all the negs looks like the truth is something they'd prefer not to know.
I agree The Oz is the only paper in the Australian market I'd pay for. It's overall centre-right, but there are plenty of left-wing columnists too. It's the closest paper to having something approaching balance.
On the other hand, left-wing outfits like Fairfax, The Guardian and the ABC are 100% left. You won't find a single conservative, libertarian or person of the right, and these days probably not even a classical liberal.I find Janet Albrechtsen to be superb.
Says it all, really.
Shame you didn't put this at the start of your post - would have saved me from reading the rest.
What, you gotta pay for left-wing propaganda? No thank you, I like my fake news free!
Man, NYT is truly disgusting. That is all.
Seems like a decent deal for a well respected newspaper
hahahahaha
The New York Slimes, a former newspaper.
Can you then name a current newspaper you'd recommend?
That's a stretch. However, as I said above, I'd pick The Australian first. Its content is relevant to Australia and I find Janet Albrechtsen to be one of the few who consistently report solidly.
I find some of The Australian's content biased. However, I'm far more likely to get the truth at the Australian. Who else reported on IPA's shocking findings about our teaching crisis of history in Australia? One newspaper, The Australian.
The Australian reported it here.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/we-risk-being-…The original IPA article is here.
https://ipa.org.au/publications-ipa/media-releases/rise-iden…
https://ipa.org.au/publications-ipa/in-the-news/left-paradin…One outlet counter argued that universities don't worry about teaching major historical events because of student demand.
http://theconversation.com/memo-to-the-ipa-history-teaching-…
You will notice that no public protests or demonstrations were referenced. It's unclear how students protested being taught about the enlightenment.
This is why I read The Australian. I know our universities are in trouble. I am not being told about supposed student protests against the enlightenment and I'm actually hearing about controversies in the first place, whether those controversies be about antifa beating up police or our universities failing to teach basic history.
"The Australian reported it here."
"The original IPA article is here."
Very cosy synergy between the IPA, The Australian, make that all Team Murdoch, and the Coalition. If you want to be endlessly lectured at by right-wingers The Australian is your paper.
Come on DeWalt, you can't be serious?
Murdoch/News Corp owns The Australian, The Daily Telegraph, The Herald Sun, The Courier Mail, and The Advertiser (amongst others).
They are some of the most right leaning "news" outlets in the country. The Telegraph in particular is a joke/junk paper, with Bolt, Divine, and other far right idiots getting front and centre podiums to broadcast their crap every single day.
Murdoch also owns Fox News (US). If that doesn't give you an inkling of the type of calibre of "news" this joker sells, then there's no hope for you.
Much better ACTUAL news sources out there.
Fairfax Media, whilst not perfect, at least tries to portray balance. Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, The Canberra Times… MUCH more balanced.
ABC News, also not perfect, is a good news source, and a lot of ABC News stablemates (Four Corners, 7.30 Report etc) seem to be the only ones in the country actually producing real journalism and fact checking. Look at all the big stories this year. Most of them have originated from Four Corners investigations, and THEN picked up by the commercial media. Until then, all the commercial media talks about is The Bachelor or some other rubbish sensationalist 'scandal', until the the real journos break the news. Then its just copycat.Watch the cycle long enough and you'll see for yourself. Most of the "exclusives" The Daily Telegraph or The Australian have are junk stories designed to sell a nonexistent story by a headline. Pathetic.
@UFO: Yep you just confirm things.
We all accept Murdochs papers are right leaning. Those who lean that way buy them.
Howver its plain BS to say that Fairfax is balanced. Just like the Murdoch papers with some left leaning commentators, they have some right leaning commentary, but the bulk is left leaning.
There in lies the balance of media opinion. You pay to get what you want to hear.
For those "conservative" (right) minded they can read commentary they like
Those "liberal" (Left) minded can also do the same.The only real issue is the ABC, which is supposed to be neutral. They are NOT neutral, Yes I agree 4 corners does investigative journalism, but most of these are non political investigations, so really that doesnt count.
No politiian has ever accused the ABC of being right leaning. That in itself says something. Now they may not be radical left, but they are still left.
Now of course for those of a left leaning, Fairfax can be seen as neutral, compared to the Guardian etc.
Whatever both sides of politics have faults and good ideas. We need to recognise, that without opposing views we cant consider all aspects. Many a battle was lost because disenting views werent considered.
@shaybisc: What about the cosy relationships between Labor, The Greens, Getup!, left-wing think tanks and their friends in the media at ABC, Fairfax and The Guardian?
What about how many ABC staff have connections to the Labor party, ex Labor, spouses, family, etc?
But no, it's all bogey man Murdoch! All you can see is the splinter in the eye of your political opponents but not the plank in your own.@RockyRaccoon: Spot on comment. UFO doesn't appear capable of being honest and non-partisan for a second. I like reading The Australian but I acknowledge it has a centre-right bias, UFO seems to think his new sources are balanced - which they are not.
Take a breath roku, you'll give yourself a stroke!
You've taken this topic from an educated opinion/discussion on the different media outlets, to a personal attack on my capabilities of apparently not being honest and non-partisan. You just sound like a raving lunatic.
I never said they were balanced, that's your error. I said they are more balanced and less far right Murdoch's tripe (and I did admit that none of them are perfect).
The fact that you are unable to ascertain the difference between those two sentences is your fault not mine, and is the cause of hyperventilation.
Both of major parties appear to have allies in the news. You've ranted and raved about cosy relationships but conveniently forgotten about the Liberal side of things entirely. Being that you're obviously a right leaning voter (notice no personal attacks to attempt to belittle you needlessly?), are you at least able to admit that because of your stance to the right that it could be possible that ABC appears overly left (when in my opinion its marginally left of centre)?
@UFO: Late reply here, but only just noticed your reply in my notifications.
UFO, this is OzBargain, so let's try to keep things civil please. I'm here mostly for the bargains and the good natured jokes.
"notice no personal attacks to attempt to belittle you needlessly"
I can't help but laugh at this, the lack of self awareness. Are you gaslighting? I count half a dozen insults in your last comment. I assure you I am perfectly relaxed, I hope you are too ;).
"I never said they were balanced, that's your error. I said they are more balanced and less far right Murdoch's tripe (and I did admit that none of them are perfect)."
Ok, you didn't say balanced, you said "more balanced". Sorry for not being precise enough with my paraphrasing of you. I disagree though, I think those outlets are sitting considerably left of centre.
"Both of major parties appear to have allies in the news."
I agree.
"You've ranted and raved about cosy relationships but conveniently forgotten about the Liberal side of things…"
No I didn't. I pointed out the Labor and The Greens allies in the media, after shaybisc only mentioned right-wing media allies. Which I accept. My reply was an attempt to balance the facts. However you jumped to an assumption that my reply was a denial of shaybisc's comment - which it wasn't.
Yes I'm right leaning, and you're left leaning. Everyone has bias, their own subjective filter of the world. However I can backup my opinion with some facts. Murdoch's Australian and Sky News, while the majority of columnists and presenters are right-leaning, has many left-leaning opinionists. Now can you say the same about the ABC, Fairfax or The Guardian? I'm talking permanent contributors, not visiting guests. I'd be thrilled if you can name a conservative at the ABC. Nope!
A sincere Merry Christmas to you UFO and all OzBargainers!
"TRUMP WON'T WIN" lol
nyt… FAIL!
Every poll in the US before the election said the same thing. NO ONE predicted Humpty Trumpty winning.
The whole country "FAILED", not just NYT.He's been a joke to the US and the rest of the world since. Hardly a "lol" moment mate.
Should I pay for brainwashing?
Damn, that looks tasty.
Dammit. Now I feel like fish and chips.
How much is it normally for a weekly subscription ?