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It depends how the keys are activated.
There's two types of stealing. Copying code (software), or pinching something off the shelf. If these keys activate like a legit key, then it would be an example of the latter form of stealing. Stolen keys, or keys acquired via dubious means are still "legit" keys. This is a worse form of stealing than simply making a copy of someone else's software. If the software was pilfered from a bricks and mortar store, that store loses their copy and can't sell it. But it functions better for the recipient of the ill-gotten goods.
When you use a cd burner to make a copy of someone else's disc, they don't lose the disc. It's still theirs. But you won't be able to use their key, and it will require some sort of bypass that a legit (pinched from store shelf) copy won't require. This isn't as good as a stolen but "legit" key.
I suspect these keys are "legit" in that they will function the same as they would if you purchased it legally.
Are they moral to use? That's another question. It's up to you to decide that.
how many boxes of windows 10 or office can someone shove down their pants and steal from a store …….
They are lots of OEM keys that never make it to the PCs they were destined to (e.g they end up with linux instead) and are sold separate, or corporates that buy PCs without win10 home as they image with win10 enterprise (need domain features) from their own enterprise agreements ….. the win 10 home are sold off by the PC vendor.
Office Pro: $467.36 reduced to $31.71?
Or a volume license being sold in violation of Microsoft's licensing agreement?
Insane prices of $467.36 that many people can't afford drive these types of keys.
Maybe. But I can't afford a Lamborghini - does that mean I should steal one? (Or in this case, pay someone else to steal one!) Of course not - instead I go and buy something I can afford.
Absolutely invalid comparison. We are not talking about luxury here but rather widely used essentials.
No but if you can copy a Lamborghini I say go for it! ;-)
Edit: Actually I don't condone piracy. I work as a software developer. But the comparison to physical theft is so incredibly flawed.
@bob19: it's not 'absolutely invalid' just because it was am extreme example; if you can't afford something it doesn't matter whether it's a luxury item or "essential" - you still can't afford it! So you look for alternatives. In this case there are plenty of cheaper or free alternatives available. They may not be as good or as widely used, but there's going to be tradeoffs when you can't afford (or justify) purchasing the "best".
@bob19: "rather widely used essentials".
That'd be "Publisher" then. Everything else you can use excellent and genuinely free alternatives for.
@stokesy77: What you are saying now makes more sense and I agree with it. The previous example was certainly extreme.
@bob19: That statement is invalid, people who cannot afford a lambo get a cheaper car. If you cannot afford office stick to free email platforms, google docs, google sheets and the plethora of other free software out there.
They're being like Kogan. Advertise full AU price of something that will never be sold at full price.
yeah bad people in the world, you should respect geoblocking and not watch netflix USA from Australia, amongst many other licensing agreements like only buy steam games from Australian store, or Xbox games from Australian store and not make up fake USA addresses ……it's stealing.
When my MS Office 2016 trial expired I went back to the good old 2007 version. It runs much faster and is perfect for my needs.
Haha I still have my good old office 2007 on one of my laptops (my bigger, but older one)
Works great, they legit haven't changed much in 10 years.
As long as it has .Docx compatibility it's all I need.
@87andcry: I wouldn't use 2003 though, worst interface ever…
The only reason I have 2016 is that I get it free as a student, I was using 2007 last year and continue to this year
Problem is file corruption using the older version on newer documents is what I've been finding
OP's name check's out. Even missing a Kay at the end to emphasise the Where is portion.
Cheaper than reddit?
Is this laggit
You're kidding ?
That ebayer has a junk review rating. Whatever you think of gamedeal and this deal, gamesdeal is well known.
try these ones
theres no difference in the keys selling here & ebay except the price, ive bought office pro 16 from ebay worked no problems $4 well spent
Are those keys legal?
@Zylam Marex: "Note to eBay: Genuine licenses are obtained legally through uninstalling from PCs which no longer require them and it is legal to sell used licenses under EU law.'
I find that hard to believe. they sold 9,000 copies meaning they are in ownership of 9,000 computers? even if they had some sort of system it would cost more than the asking price to get the man hours to connect a computer and find the key. I honestly think they didn't steal them personally but bought them at bulk price from the black market and I would say Gamesdeal.com most likely does something similar
@mec: agree mec.. but aslong as eBay accepts it I'm happy to consider it legal & ask no questions, only posted as the price difference between gamesdeal & eBay is significant & there's no doubt there the same key, so if someone's going to buy may as well get it off eBay
"Note to eBay: Genuine licenses are obtained legally through uninstalling from PCs which no longer require them and it is legal to sell used licenses under EU law.'
If the original owner decides to reinstall them with that key…
@lostn: they can't, once you install on your computer, if you uninstall you can only put it back on the same computer won't work on a different pc, worst case scenario it's $4 lol
@RogueWolf: How was it able to transfer to you in the first place? They had to uninstall it from their PC, which means it can only be reinstalled on their PC not yours?
@lostn: some bs they get it from broken motherboards, you need to go through Microsoft to activate it so if there was going to be a issue you'd expect it to happen there
our network used to have 30,000 PCs, all re-imaged with enterprise by various suppliers ….. wouldn't surprise me if the suppliers kept the keys for the win10 home the machines normally came with. and on sold.
Another well-known source here. More expensive, just as questionable but reliable :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/
If you want to pirate software, do so, but don't financially support others to do the stealing.
yep, these sorts of deals make me sick. they are not bargains, they are theft.
I'll jump on this if it's legal, would be good to get some confirmation.
The comments above aren't confirmation enough?
They came after I asked. Are you gonna give me a tragic violation ticket or something officer?
They are legal, I've used in the past just fine :)
@BradleyDS2: If they are sold online to me under the impression of being legal without proof of them being illegal otherwise, and they are being honoured by Microsoft for working, then to the average consumer that's considered legal.
People pay for this software?
I am not sure which is more wrong, huge corporations imposing such high prices or circumventing those pricing schemes.
However, what I do know is that weather you buy these MSDN keys or you crack your software, you are equally breaking Microsoft TOS, therefore from a moral stand point you are doing the same thing.
So I wonder why most people prefer to pay a few dollars to be in exactly the same boat as those who use pirated software? This is blatantly obvious by the constant deals and upvotes.
Maybe it just provides some sort of comfortable moral blanket…
There is no moral blanket.
People "buy" them because they don't require a crack or activator. They're seen as legit by the PC and server that checks the key. They activate off a copy downloaded from Microsoft, which is the safest way to acquire a copy. This is a convenience for pirates with standards.
Or they can say they just didn't know the keys weren't legit sourced. In some cases that might be true.
I mean if you want to pirate why go half arse and pay $10?
Pirating software often means you have to run some sort of key cracker/license activator software. Which you then run the risk of the source of the software containing a trojan or some malicious code. Getting a key here means you can then run a legitimate installer downloaded from M$ then activate and not risk installing malware unknowingly.
I'm not condoning nor bashing the sale of these keys as I don't exactly know how they are sourced. As I often hear people compare the use of a key to pirating, I just want to highlight the risk of the latter, pirating.
Just a note you can download and activate windows 10 32/64 bit for free still " microsoft just dont tell you that " , all you have to do is download either 32/64 bit version and then click install and it auto activates for you ….. i done this about 2-3 weeks ago from windows 8.1 to windows 10 as i ordered the Oculus Rift.
Follow this guide here http://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-f…
That's an in-place upgrade. If you want to do a clean install on a brand new computer with no existing operating system, you'll need an OEM key.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
Many of the crackers / activators only give you 30 days ….. which Win10 does anyway …….. getting the full activation with updates from microsoft ongoings needs legit keys .thet Microsoft activate….. whether they are OEM, or recovered from PCs that are re-imaged with win10 enterprise ….. Microsoft has gotten money along the journey, just not maybe as much as if you bought Win10 home at office works or Harvey Norman, and if they are worried about it they can not activate those keys when the PC boots.
Wait till you get anew mother card and ring Microsoft to a new key, they give you one, even if OEM license, provided it was activated and registered with the.
I got a legit office 2013 key I purchased through a work discount (government partnership with Microsoft) that now decided not to activate on a reinstall on my pc. Haven't changed hardware since purchase. Can't go through phone activation in Australia anymore, and I'm now shit out of luck. Now I need Office… So I'm almost tempted here…
LibreOffice/OpenOffice is Microsoft Office compatible, cross platform and you wouldn't be breaking any laws using it without paying.
OP please demonstrate you're a licensed ms dealer and these are genuine retail keys. I'm starting to mark these as illegal. I don't feel obz should be associated with highly dubious/illegal practices.
So many do gooders on here about piracy I wonder how many skeletons they have in the closet.
I got nothing against piracy, I just believe you should do the pirating yourself instead of paying others to do it for you. Charging for pirating is 100% against the spirit of piracy.
Money laundering?
Buy 2000 stolen credit card numbers on the dark web?
use them to buy genuine software licences from ms or genuine retailers etc?
sell keys cheap?
good scheme if you can use credit cards in a hurry [maybe a criminal gang with plenty of members]?.
Was about to order one until…
This product doesn`t accept Paypal payment, you can use the other payment methodes, or use GD gift card
Okay, no PP. Maybe with gift card they accept PP, so…
Windows 10 pro $11.66 (assuming its in USD)
Gift card $11.44 (was $11.66)
$0.22 difference
… Must buy 2 gift cards
SCAM
IZ
FAIL
Neg on this deal.
AVOID!
Hmmm this bloke appreciates his own customer support
The key he purchased from himself is working well…
Fair go ocker
Is there anything wrong with getting the Xbox Live subscription from here? … Is it only the MS Office/Windows keys which are questionable?
is this legit?
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