Help Me Pick (OzBargain) My Dad's Next Car

My dad is looking to buy a new car in the next couple of months, since I've moved out and taken our formerly shared car with me.

He initially put forward two options: a Golf or a Tiguan (I know they're not exactly comparable, which opens up the field a lot).
His budget covers the cost of a base model Tiguan auto (~$40k).

Background: We live in WA.
My dad is approaching 70 years old, and has driven cars ranging from a Daihatsu Charade to the last gen Honda CR-V. I don't think he'll have a problem driving smaller cars (like the Golf), but a higher ride height and more room would also be welcome (Tiguan).

Given his budget and wide scope of vehicle types, I came up with a shortlist of potential options for him to pick from. I'd like everyone's advice on the "best" choice in each category and a good price I could negotiate for it.
He would like to go with a brand new car, though I think he may be open to demo models.

Caveats: no Korean cars, Holden, Ford, Nissan, or Toyota. He's not open to the idea, and neither am I.
I'm also looking into cars with a bit more zip (a turbo), since my dad (and I) complained that the last gen CR-V my mum drives basically has a 0-100 time of several days.

Small cars
Model Rough RRP
Suzuki Swift GLX Turbo $23.5k
VW Golf 110TSI $27k
"Medium" cars
Model Rough RRP
Suzuki S-Cross Turbo $27.5k
Mazda 3 Maxx $28k
Mazda CX-3 Maxx $28k
Honda Civic VTi-L Turbo $31.5k
Subaru XV 2.0i-L $34.5k
Mazda CX-5 Maxx $35k
VW Tiguan 110TSI Trendline $40k

italicised entries are ones I'm not personally keen on

"Larger" cars
Model Rough RRP
Suzuki Vitara S Turbo 2WD $30.5k
Honda CR-V VTi 2WD $31.5k

Update 1:
Spoke to my dad today, told him VWs are expensive to buy/service, and are difficult to resell outside warranty period. No argument from him there.

My suggestions to him based on feedback from here were either a Vitara AWD or a Camry (Atara Hybrid). He wasn't keen on either of them - he said he didn't like either of them, and when pressed for reasons, he said he'd rather not be seen in them.
I suggested getting a really dark tint if that's what he's concerned about.

He has picked up a brochure for a CR-V, but on looking up its power to mass (unimpressive 1.5T in a ~1800kg car), was much less keen.

He did toy with the idea of a Civic (I pushed for him to go for the turbo model), but nothing conclusive there.

He said he has been to a VW dealership and asked about the driveaway price of a Tiguan and was quoted about $36-38k (can't remember what he said exactly).

We did toss up the idea of an i30 briefly (the SR model), but again, nothing conclusive (the engine's specs aren't as good as the Japanese ones we've seen thus far in terms of fuel consumption). There's also the issue of the dual dry clutch (I'm nervous given this seems to be one of Hyundai's first forays into the technology and some of the existing issues they've had with it).

Have not mentioned Subaru or Mazda options yet, but did briefly touch on the CX-5.

He also said he's happy to push back his purchase date to 6 months (from 2).

Comments

    • +1

      Built in the EU

      Spain and Russia. Not really known for great automotive manufacturing.

  • .. go to YouTube and get the best advice from John Cardogan .. and also get the best deal ..

    • +1

      That guy comes off as a complete lunatic (and highly unprofessional). I think it was someone on here who initially mentioned that he has a few screws loose.

    • +1

      Taking this guys advice is the equivalent of receiving financial advice from a retired prostitute on the dole…

  • Everyones got an opinion .. but no one's an expert .. I recommend that everyone get a good dose of John Cadogan the "Auto Expert" on youtube .. he'll set you straight .. try this one for starters … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS4DbiDYv60

  • ok you've got 100 opinions from randoms- are you clear on what to do now?

  • I got a brand new Kia Cerato S with AV package, metallic paint for $17,990 drive-away during the EOFY sale.

    Extremely good car for the price.

    • Capped (~$250) annual service.
    • 7 years unlimited kms warranty.
    • Free Roadside Assist for first year and renewed annually with each service.

    Even John Cadogan the "Auto Expert" highly recommends Kia Cerato.

    • Thats an excellent price. Who did you get it from?

  • Subaru Liberty 3.6R is a good option under 40K, except it requires 6 monthly service :(

    • But you can go outside of dealer servicing. More people need to be aware of this. Should be around $120 if they're not price gouging. It's a 30 minute job including putting the car on a scissor lift and taking it off.

      Great car apart from the CVT, but its not a performance car so it doesn't matter.

      • For a new car, they may require dealership service for the warranty. Good point, otherwise.
        I currently own 3.0 outback. Not a zippy car by any means, but does have a good grunt at road speed for overtaking, merging etc. Feels safer than 2.5 or 2.0.

        • +1

          You do not require dealership servicing to retain warranty. Dealerships try to imply or even directly tell you that. This is false.

          All you require to retain your warranty is that you follow the logbook service schedule and have it signed off by a qualified mechanic.

        • @tshow: Ah cool. That'll save a good amount of money. Thanks.

  • +1

    TL:DR but you need to buy a 80k sports car. It is an investment after all.

  • 2017 MY Skoda Octavia RS. Can be easily had for 40k, including 3 years free servicing now that the new model is out. Skoda leads reliability polls in Europe consistently so no issues there. Reverse camera, parking sensors (back/front/corners), emergwncy braking, xenon headlights, multiple airbags and etc all standard. Avoid the 19"wheel option and confort is not a problem either.

    My mom is 73yo and LOVES it! She's mostly in love with the fact it has hooks in the boot to hold her shopping bags though… lol

  • get a Volvo c 30 secondhand

  • Just some observations.

    You dad is nearly 70 .

    So that has invoked an response from many that this will be his last car. Given that the average age of living for a Male in Australia is now in the 80's and that someone who is already over 65 this rises to 85, and we are talking averages, this may well not be the last car he buys.

    This also assumes he doesn't also like to enjoy his retirement AND he is below the average.

    It also asumes he isn't already cranking up the wheelchair, like many think those over 70 must be doing already. 😀

    You indicate also, that he isnt overly concerned about his financial position, and that your mom also has a car as well.

    You also appear to be active in the discussion - excluding the battle between two members here. Which is good.

    Cars are so subjective,as your dad has already indicated. Maybe some feedback on reliability and service costs from him would assist.

    BTW while I am not sure of Perth's motoring organisation, the NRMA, which is accessable by everyone, has a great car cost calculator, which includes, insurance, resale and servicing costs as well as other factors in determining cost of car. While not always applicable, it at least gives a good relative evaluation of any car choice.

    • You dad is nearly 70 .

      So that has invoked an response from many that this will be his last car. Given that the average age of living for a Male in Australia is now in the 80's and that someone who is already over 65 this rises to 85, and we are talking averages, this may well not be the last car he buys.

      My dad is Chinese. He's going to live to a billion. He'll likely live long enough to buy the Tesla Model ZZZ999.

      Maybe some feedback on reliability and service costs from him would assist.

      What kind of feedback? It seems kind of superfluous to say that excellent reliability and low service costs (ideally, averaging around $500 a year?) are a given, but if you have more specific questions, I'm happy to get his answers.

      • are a given

        well given he was considering a VAG, others and the "Tesla zzz999 " it wasn't easy to determine. And his adversion to the Toyota Hyundai etc

        apart from that I have no recommendations, but will follow this thread with personal interest in consuming advices given.

        • well given he was considering a VAG

          I think he's going off his experience with VWs in the 80s in England. He used to have a Jetta (and possibly others at some stage) which he loved.

  • +1

    If he is 70 I say spend your inheritance and get a porsche.

    • Long time ago, I saw top of the range BMW M4 on carsales.com.au and in the comment it said it was his elderly fathers last car before he passed away. Felt sad like "For sale: baby shows, never worn" story.

  • Have a look into the Skoda range if he's keen on the VW Golf. Either the Octavia range, or the Rapid Monte Carlo. 110TSI DSG Octavia Sedan should go for $27,990, but you'll probably be able to get a better deal after negotiation. And that will give you a lot more features than the equivalent Golf 110TSI. See http://www.skoda.com.au/promotions/promotion-detail/octavia-…

    Otherwise, the Rapid Monte Carlo 92TSI (1.4l) DSG goes for $27,790. http://www.skoda.com.au/promotions/promotion-detail/rapid-mo…

    I wouldn't discount the Rapid Monte Carlo, it's quite a nice looking car even if it's a little smaller than the Octavia sedan. But it's a wagon shape so can fit quite a bit in the back.

    Also factor in the servicing costs of the vehicles. Skoda have a page with their capped servicing costs here: http://www2.skodaaustralia.net/servicepricing and VW have theirs here: https://au.volkswagen.com.au/service-pricing-guide/

    A year ago I went looking at similar cars, and test drove a few. I ended up buying the Skoda Yeti after also test driving the VW Tiguan on the same day. They both have the same 1.4l VW Group engine, but the Yeti was just a more enjoyable drive so I ended up with that.

  • Update?????

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