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20K Points for Joining Amex Life Insurance Approx $6 Per Month. 6 Month Minimum

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Just noticed this deal and thought I might do a post here to share. Credit to 'NoName' from the AFF forums.

Guess most Ozbargainers would have some sort of AMEX card. As title suggests 20,000 Bonus points for new life insurance policies. Points to be credited up to 8 weeks after the first premium is paid. AMEX reserve the right to reverse bonus points if you cancel within 6 months.

The points you get will depend on the card you choose to use.
If you use the Qantas cards, you will get 20,000 Qantas.
If you use the Explorer, you will get 20,000 Gateway which transfers out to 15,000 Airline Points for a range of partners.
If you use the Platinum Charge, you will get 20,000 Ascent.

As a data point, with min cover of $50,000, Mylife policy comes out to about $6 a month.

Over 6 months, the total cost is $36.

To apply, login to your AMEX account and click on the 'Insurance' tab and follow the prompts.

If you do not get either the email or the flyer in the mail, don't despair… the deal is not targeted.

It is available to new customers but if you are not comfortable feel free to confirm with it please call 1800 025 015 and ask about the promotion.

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Referrer: 40,000 Reward Points

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Referee gets 200,000 MR points. Referrer gets 150,000 MR points.

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  • I can see that exact cover being offered under Insurance tab but nothing about the 20k offer. I doubt I will magically get 20k if I just sign up now. Why would they give me 20k in points when there's no mention of it under Insurance?

    • That's what they did for me and just like they magically gave me 9k bonus points to add 3 supps when I didn't get the promo.

      • Did they charge you for first month? And did your points come thru the moment fee got debited from your card at month 2?

        • Yeap got the points on the first month that I was charged and you get triple points for the cost of the premium.

        • @nightelves: yay! Looking forward to 40030 points next month! =)

        • @bkx3virgin:

          Make sure you hold it for 6 months as Amex can easily take the points off you.

        • @nightelves: Unless you spend them first :)

        • +1

          @h4lcyon:

          That's what I intend to do.

  • $4 per month.. sweet, although they'll get back to me within 2 days.. not instant.

  • Nothing mention 20K points. is this only credit for once on primary cardholder or is for everybody under supplementary as well?

  • I have AMEX issued Gold. No such offer. Even in the Insurance tab on the benefits portal.

  • Haha the deal was around 3-4 months ago.
    When i applied for it! No promo code was needed.

    Just had to wait for the 5 bucks to be deducted and the points were awarded.

    • Exactly! Was very grateful for your intel. I'm surprise not many people jumped on it when you posted about the deal.

  • Anyone know of the expiry date of this offer? I'm waiting for my new explorer to arrive in the mail…

    • +1

      31st of July

      • Perfect, thank you :)

  • +4

    this reminds me - i need to cancel the qantas assure life insurance and jump on this now for moar FF points

    • Do you have to call Qantas to cancel?

      • yeah rang 134960 and have policy number ready. was pretty quick and cancelled in less than 4 mins

  • +1

    how could they reverse points if you've converted them to an airline for example ?

    • Make you pay for the cost of the points?

    • +1

      The points can be a negative number, I got -1000 something when I returned a product for a refund.

  • Does anyone know if the AMEX issued Virgin Velocity Card (Free One) is eligible?

    • Yes it is. I have one and I just called the call centre to confirm. Amex velocity will get you 20K velocity points

      • Thanks. I went for it anyway, if I didn't get the points I'd have just cancelled.

  • Called Zurich and they advised that the 20,000 points will be awarded after the payment of the second premium.

    Policy can be purchased online or via their call centre.

    • I got it on the first month if that helps.

  • Does this work with the Velocity Platinum?

    • I want to know this too.

      • +1

        Just called them and the lady confirmed that the Velocity Platinum is included but couldn't confirm whether it was 20k Velocity points or AmEx points.

        • Well at least that's something. Thanks!

        • I imagine then that the Velocity Escape card would be accepted?

        • +1

          @TomMor:

          She did say "Velocity Frequent Flyer" cards issued by AmEx. So I would assume so.

  • So I'm still confused, the offer is on but not advertise therefore I do not see it in my Plat Edge offers/insurance etc but its 100% on right?

    Second thing, if I get insurance for myself and missus do I get double points?

  • +16
    • Not Targeted
    • Available for primary cardholders of Amex issued cards. Excludes David Jones, business, corporate, Govt, bank issued and supplementary cards
    • First months cover for $0
    • Allow 8-10 weeks from payment of your first monthly premium for the 20,000 bonus points to be credited (paid sooner for others)
    • Insurance for family/partners eligible but only if purchased on a separate card/account (must be primary card not supplementary)
    • Expires 30 June
    • Thank you. Finally someone posting some sense in the comments. Everyone refer to this.

    • So you can cancel the insurance after getting the 20k points or still min. 6 months?

      • +1

        Being monthly payments you should be able to cancel at any time. In regards to the points they have covered themselves in the T&C's:

        "American Express reserves the right to reverse your points should you cancel your policy within 6 months of the commencement date."

    • Source?

      • Alisha McKeeman from the Zurich Ezicover Team and the promotional T&C's.

        • Can you upload the promotional T&Cs? I can't seem to obtain them.

        • +6

          Terms and Conditions
          1. 20,000 Bonus Points offer only available to new American Express Ezicover Insurance Policy Holders who are Australian residents aged between 19 and 69, apply by 30 June 2017, are approved and have purchased their policy using an eligible American Express Card and are enrolled in an eligible rewards program. American Express reserves the right to reverse your points should you cancel your policy within 6 months of the commencement date. Eligible rewards programs include Membership Rewards program, Qantas Frequent Flyer program and Velocity Frequent Flyer program. The following are not Eligible Cards: Bank Issued American Express Cards, David Jones American Express Cards, Business Cards that are affiliated with a wholesale partner, American Express Business Travel Accounts, Government Cards, Corporate Purchasing Cards, Corporate Meeting Cards and Corporate Cards. Bonus Points will be allocated once per Card account, therefore Card Members who currently hold or have previously purchased an American Express Ezicover Insurance product are ineligible for this offer. Please allow 8-10 weeks from payment of your first monthly or annual premium for the 20,000 bonus points to be credited to your rewards program.
          2. Policy holders must be Australian residents aged between 19 and 69 who apply and are approved. Policy must be purchased using an eligible American Express Card issued by American Express Australian Limited to earn 3 points per dollar spent on American Express Ezicover insurance products. Terms and Conditions of the rewards program in which you are enrolled. Membership Rewards Terms and Conditions are available at membershiprewards.com.au. Qantas American Express Cards Points Terms and Conditions are available at americanexpress.com.au/qantaspointsconditions. American Express Velocity Card Points Terms and Conditions are available at americanexpress.com.au/velocitypointsconditions. The following are not Eligible Cards: Bank Issued American Express Cards, David Jones American Express Cards, and Business Cards that are affiliated with a wholesaler partner, American Express Business Travel Accounts, Government Cards, Corporate Purchasing Cards, Corporate Meeting Cards and Corporate Cards.

        • @lucjack:

          Is there a link to these T&Cs?

        • @cloudy:
          Not that I could find. I received them via email after calling up to ask about the promotion.

    • Actually expires 31 July.

  • Is the EziCover MyLife insurance is a type of Trauma insurance?

  • +2

    I spoke to Zurich who confirmed I could take out a policy in my wifes name and get the 20K points using my primary card.
    My quote was $28 per month for me & $5.64 for my wife. I insured the wife and not myself !

    • Excellent move

    • +5

      Damn, for once it actually works out cheaper to have a wife lol

  • Applied - See what happens

  • +1

    Not sure why there is so much reluctance

    20k points is worth 148 dollars
    36 in fees

    That's 102 in profit

    Am I missing something?

    • No, you're not.

    • +2

      20k points worth $200 to me! Happy to buy from anyone that wants to collect and get rid of them =p

      • if you're valuing 20k amex points at $200, you're doing it wrong.

        • Why? I travel a lot and so use it for flight redemptions. Melb to Perth was 30k points in Qantas a330 business - $300 by my valuation and $30 in taxes. Listed for $1000 on Qantas website.

          I've not travelled in economy for the past 6 years as a result so the points are worth it to me at 1c a point!

        • @bkx3virgin:

          you proved my point. 30k points for a $1000 fare values your points at 3.33c/point.

          there's better value out there too.

        • @jetcam:
          That is only the valuation if you'd actually pay $1,000 in cash for that ticket over $300 - $400 for an economy one. That's a personal judgement on value.

          Personally I think you'd need more money than sense to pay an extra ~$600 to sit in a more comfy chair for 4 hours. Or try the reverse proposition: would you turn down an offer from someone paying you $600 to sit in an uncomfortable chair for 4 hours?

        • @Greg123:

          I get what you are saying but for me. The song and dance before you get on to a business class flight and the expectation and anticipation is all part of the fun.
          If I was in economy and offered 400 extra to move up when the flight is about to start if be more reluctant

          That being said if I was in business I wouldn't turn down a generous cash offer to go back to economy unless it was very very good!

        • @Greg123:

          then you are valuing two different things.

          i use my points for international business and first class flights. my value is anywhere from 4c to 6c per point.

        • @jetcam: I'm much the same. Just gave the domestic flight as an example. I fly internationally twice yearly and 115000 points for sq first class suites last year from London to Melbourne was a real treat!

        • @bkx3virgin: Would MR points (not QFF) also work for you? It can be transferred to Virgin but at a lower rate, 4 for 3 I think.

    • Well you didn't mention:

      • Unknown risk that you won't receive 20k points.
      • Lack of official information in writing, and resulting confusion and inability to therefore pursue bonus points if not credited. There's no written terms and conditions of the offer that I can find.
      • Need to manually cancel after 6 months or otherwise keep paying premiums.
      • $148 in rewards value is not equal to $148 cash. You'd be lucky to sell a supermarket gift card for 90%, and there's plenty of deals on OzB for discounted supermarket gift vouchers.
      • Some people's premiums will be more than $36.
      • Time investment to sign up and subsequently cancel, and then redeem points (if credited).
      • +6

        sigh..

        1st point - true there's always that chance but for $36 its worth the risk, many people have previously stated that its not targeted.

        2nd point - I think a few people have pasted on this thread the T&C's for this offer

        3rd point - I think it takes more time to post OZ then call them up cancel - just set up a reminder 6 months from now

        4th point there - 20K points can be used to reverse statement credit or charge. 1 point currently reverses 0.741c on your statement so 20K points will reverse $148 on your statement - that's a straight up cash saving mate. Its not "$148 in rewards value". TBH there are way better uses of 20K points than reversing your statement

        5th point - true, having said that some people's will be less - I got 5.55 a month my wife got 4.16 (both 28)

        6th point - it seriously took 5mins each for my wife and I - said no the questions and filled out a form, enter your cc and your done

    • Yes your calculation wrong. Should be $6 X 5 Months=$30 (First Month free)

  • I don't see the bonus points link in my portal.

    • They are still working on updating the website as claimed by their call centre operator when I asked him but if it is amex issued card, all are eligible

  • +2

    I hate to spoil the party for those who think this is tax deductible because I'm pretty sure it is not, unless held by your self managed super fund, and then its only deductible against the income of that fund, not your personal income. People may be getting confused with income protection insurance, which is ordinarily deductible for income tax purposes due to the linkage to the continuation and protection of your income, upon which you pay income tax. Lump sum life insurance payouts are not taxed as income, therefore there is no connection to income taxation for deduction purposes. Hope this is clear…

    Still a good deal for points etc. In terms of cost in the long run, I think its possibly a bit dearer than what you may be able to find in the market or via super, unless someone is able to find a decent promo code to cut it down a bit. I tried Googling for one but didn't find anything.

  • +1

    I just signed up for the insurance so we'll see if the points do arrive. 20-25 year olds = $6.99 per month.
    I'm not sure for those if it helps but if your not keen nor interested in the points for
    shopping/travel you can use them to pay off your credit card as points can be used as charges.

    Mine came up with 1000 points = $7.41.
    So if you work that out. 20,000 points = $148.20 off your cc.

    Which is still cheaper for me in the long term than 6.99*6 = $42

    So let's hope these bloody points come through. lol

  • done for $5.49/month, cheers! $33 not bad for 20k FF

  • Just signed up for $5.17 using explorer. Applicable on AMEX issued cards only. Was keen to use DJ but didn't know DJ Amex is classified as non AMEX issued card.

  • "It is available to new customers but if you are not comfortable feel free to confirm with it please call 1800 025 015 and ask about the promotion."

    Great, currently have a Zurich Life insurance. Might give them a call to find out if I qualify.

    • I just done it, with my wifes name who doesn't have an account with Zurich. Paid with my CC of course.

      come on 20K! :D:D

  • +1

    Amex explorer links with amex PE membership rewards. So you will get pure 20,000 MR points.

    • Yes I have that setup and it works!

  • This might sound stupid, but are the payments done in advance? So would we cancel before the 21st of December, or before the 21st of January?

    • +1

      Cancel after 6 months from the date of purchase. So after the 21st of December.

    • +1

      I set up a calendar invite to cancel on December 27th to be safe. Brings it up to $40 spend for me.

    • In case you think this insurance is actualy worthwhile to keep and don't want to cancel after 6 months, it may be handy to be aware that an annual payment (rather than monthly) attracts a further discount (in addition to the free first month).

      It's close to 2 months free over the first year.

      • I don't think so? It appears to be you get the one month free (so paying for 11 months) and also a slight discount that brings it down.

        For example i'm being quoted for monthly: $5.61 /month, first month free. or 58.22 a year annually.

        If you only pay for 11 months x $5.61 = 61.71. So you get a few dollar discount down to 58.22 for doing annually.

        Personally I'm not going to bother. Just checked my super fund and 450k of death benefit is $4.95 a week (52 weeks = $257.40). Meanwhile a $450k lie insurance with zurich is $403.01 annually quoted - which would include a free months already. I haven't gone through the pds in fine tooth comb… to compare the two. Death insurance is with rest superannuation - may be they get wholesale cheap prices due to their size as well.

  • Is there anyone who could tell me? If I have Edge and a explore card under my name, can I take out my Edge on myself and score 20k in Ascent reward program? Also, taking Explore on my wife and get another 20k in Gateway reward program.(I have not linked this two cards yet) thx.

    • +1

      yes you would get 20K ascent points just apply through the edge that you linked with your explorer.

      • So do you mean I can recevie 20k by using my Explore card when I use Explore for my wife insurance. And I can get another 20k by using Edge card when I use Edge for my insurance. Will I totally reward 20k +20k reward? Thanks

        • +1

          you get 20K for each account, yes according to earlier posts some guy bought his insurance for his wife on his own amex card.

  • $hit the older you are, then up goes the premium. Lucky for the under 40s.

    • Shoot! I made a mistake inputting my birth date ;)

  • Hi, does it have to be Amex issued card.

    Or can I use Westpac Amex card?

    Thank you

    • Can't use bank issued card. has to be amex issued.

  • +1

    Can anyone confirm if Qantas Amex Discovery is eligible for this offer as it is not part of any reward program like Ascent and Gateway?

    • Would also like to know whether Qantas Discovery cards are elible!

      • I will probably get to know tomorrow when my missus calls and buys herself a policy.

        I got one today for myself on explorer and was told that cards with first 4 digits as 3760 are eligible for the offer.

        • I have a Qantas discovery as well and it starts with 3760

  • with minimum cover of $200,000
    i'm quoted at $21.62 and my wife is at $16.35 per month

    How are you guys getting sub $10 per month?

    • +2

      I took out the $50,000 cover.

  • And you get 3 points with every dollar spent on Zurich!

  • Hi

    Please forgive me for asking a dumb question but I am looking to join American Express cc which is the best deal to go for .

    Any advice would be appreciated

    Thanking you

    Cheers

    • Hi Prince10 - there are two main deals at the moment:

      Amex Velocity Card , which will give you 100,000 Virgin Velocity points, if that's what you collect: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/307458. It would also give you a free domestic return flight on Virgin.

      Amex Explorer Card, gives you 50,000 American Express Gateway points (or 60,000 if you use a referral link). These can be converted to a range of airline and hotel loyalty programs. The card also comes with a $400 travel credit. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/307515.

      Or if you want a free card - there's the Qantas Discovery card: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/295800.

      These I'd say would be the best right now.

  • Just signed up $7 per month. If I get the points after the first month great. If I don't I'll cancel after the first month and then am only out $7.

  • hi,

    Is Amex Platinum Charge card eligible ? Thanks

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