New Car Extras - Are They Worth It?

BasilJ on 07/05/2017 - 09:07
Last edited 07/05/2017 - 11:07 by 1 other user

Considering a new car.

There is a $2,000 premium for leather seats, metallic paint, alloy wheels on the Hyundai i30 that I'm considering.

Just wondering if the extra is worth it, if it will make a difference to my resale value.

Reason why I'm considering the leather seats is because I have 3 kids, between 4 and 11. Leather seats will be easier to clean.

Alternative is to get the fabric version, then pay for seat covers to protect the material until they get older. No idea on cost, but the wooly types feels nice. Not easy to clean though.

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Comments

  • kerfuffle on 07/05/2017 - 09:15
    +1

    Dunno how much Hyundai ones will cost, but you'd need to make sure that they have the right holes for when the airbags in the seats go off. I bought genuine Toyota ones from my dealer for $500 (both front and rear ones)

  • shaybisc on 07/05/2017 - 09:19
    +9

    There was a story on this in one of the papers I read last week. The gist of it is that you will get a poor return on options when you sell but a better return if you get a special edition of the car, if one is available, that includes the extras you want.

    • spackbace on 07/05/2017 - 12:31
      +2

      I have to agree with this. Base models flood the market because of hire/fleet cars, thus resale plummets. Get something a bit nicer for not much more and you're laughing :)

      (only if the Hyundai leather is good)

      • whooah1979 on 07/05/2017 - 12:45

        (only if the Hyundai leather is good)

        isn't most leather pu now except for the high end marques?
        https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-advice/real-leather-vs-fake…
        "Rolls Royce boasts than the interior of every Phantom it produces contains the hides of between 15 and 18 cows"

        Land Rover talks about "grain-fed leather" in its latest Discovery Sport, arguing that the way cattle are fed affects the quality of the leather.

  • abear on 07/05/2017 - 09:27
    -3

    Leather seats get so hot in the summer sun that you can't sit on them with bare skin.
    You will probably end up with seat covers over them anyway

    • wanga1983 on 07/05/2017 - 09:51
      +4

      Tint your windows and put up a windscreen shade on sunny days.

    • whooah1979 on 07/05/2017 - 12:48
      +2

      Leather seats get so hot in the summer sun that you can't sit on them with bare skin.

      cover the seats with sheepskin after parking the vehicle. then remove it later before getting back in.

    • Euphemistic on 07/05/2017 - 21:21
      +1

      Nope. Vinyl gets scalding hot, leather gets hot, but not too bad. experience with two cars with leather, but they were factory tinted windows.

      • PVA on 08/05/2017 - 21:52
        +2

        That's correct but leather in Qld is still super hot compared to cloth seats.

        • ATangk on 09/05/2017 - 11:26

          In my experience, a car with cloth seats 'feels' much hotter inside, the seat itself not included. Leather seats cool quickly anyways, and aren't too big of a deal.

        • PVA on 09/05/2017 - 14:49
          +2

          @ATangk:
          Just saying what I find with both types in Qld that's all.

    • pegaxs on 07/05/2017 - 23:26
      -1

      Wrong!! I have black leather seats in my car. The worst to have, according to your logic, as well as a black leather steering wheel. I have never had an experience of the seat being hot, even at the end of the work day after being in the parking lot all day out in the sun.

      • zealmax on 09/05/2017 - 18:34
        +4

        Tasmania?

        • pegaxs on 09/05/2017 - 19:36

          Newcastle, NSW. We saw temps up well into the 40's over summer. No under cover parking and black leather interior. Not once did I go out and not be able to sit on my black leather seats. And as for bare skin, I wore shorts to work. Boss isn't keen on my budgie smugglers, even if it is just in the car park for the ride home.

          My bosses car is leather, my work car is leather, my personal car is leather and the workshop ute is vinyl. Bosses car, fine. My company car, fine. My personal car, fine. The workshop ute, nope, not fine. Leather versus vinyl.

    • skillet on 08/05/2017 - 08:40

      Scalded by hot leather when you sit on them bare skin???!! Omg put on some tshirt and pants will ya.

      All my cars has leather seats never had any issue with heat. Summer is short in VIC other states may not be the same.

    • [Deactivated] on 09/05/2017 - 06:02
      +1

      can't sit on them with bare skin.

      Only a problem if you drive naked.

    • theHMASfriendship on 09/05/2017 - 08:45
      +3

      Stop taking off your clothes before you get in the car then.

    • [Deactivated] on 09/05/2017 - 09:43

      still can't understand why people don't get their cars tinted. especially in QLD where 2/3 people get melanoma or some sort of skin cancer in their lifetime.

      • KLoNe on 09/05/2017 - 14:56

        I've had skin cancer cut out before so I don't have to worry about cancer anymore.

        Double Jepardy, best life lesson.

    • PVA on 09/05/2017 - 14:58

      That's what I think too but apparently no one else thinks so 😀

    • This Guy on 10/05/2017 - 20:20

      Get a Hyundai or Kia with ventilated seats.

    • Hirolol on 11/05/2017 - 10:19

      I have the same problem when I sit in my car while I'm naked

    • lostn on 15/07/2017 - 11:14

      Leather seats get so hot in the summer sun that you can't sit on them with bare skin.

      Put some pants on dude. Or at least some underwear.

  • oscargamer on 07/05/2017 - 11:43

    Is this the brand new i30?

    • BasilJ on 08/05/2017 - 06:49

      not the brand new model, but the run-out sale.

      • oscargamer on 08/05/2017 - 09:12
        +3

        make sure you are getting a REALLY GOOD DEAL

        your car will drop in value SIGNIFICANTLY more than normal (being a run-out model)

        can you post the price you are being offered?

        • BasilJ on 08/05/2017 - 09:26

          $22900 driveaway. with mats. its the model with leather seats and alloy wheels, not the basic one. Reasonable? Appreciate the help!

        • oscargamer on 08/05/2017 - 12:15
          +2

          @BasilJ:

          From what I am guessing the car might be, not a great deal

          but….

          Need the name of the model….Active X maybe?
          Colour?
          Auto or man?
          BUILD month and year NOT MY (model year) year (ie, when was the car actually put together - it's on the VIN plate)

          eg - there are 2016 Active X auto's being sold at the moment for just under $20k on the road
          there are 2017 Active X's auto - on the road for about $21k

          you REALLY need to know what you are buying before we can advise……….

        • BasilJ on 08/05/2017 - 14:28

          @oscargamer:

          I'm really busy at work. Work is having a sale, and I've was in the office at 5am this morning.

          I'll ring the dealer tomorrow and ask. I'm not really a cars person. It's an auto, silver, it plated 16.

          Plated 17 active X for 21k? Do you have a link?

        • oscargamer on 08/05/2017 - 21:41
          +1

          @BasilJ:

          Carsales dot com dot au

          and that's the advertised prices

          you can get better, particularly since it's a run out model

          there's also a $1000 gift card from Hyundai as well…..

          you need to do more research !

          good luck :)

        • PVA on 08/05/2017 - 21:54
          +2

          @BasilJ:
          I'm not sure if that's great seeing the new model is a whole new shape. Cars with the old shape lose value super quick.

        • noyesmaybeok on 09/05/2017 - 11:16
          +2

          @BasilJ: Not a great price, we paid about that nearly a year ago.

          Brand new model coming out so old ones will instantly lose a few grand of value.

          Imagine in 5 years time, someone comparing. 2012-early 2017 will all visually look the same, not going to command much premium over an older one. So having the last of the cars made of that series isn't much benefit.

          BUT apparently the big clearances they're doing on i30's ($20k auto driveway) won't happen with the new models… so your milage may vary.

          It's still a good car just with the new model out it's surely needing a bit more discount.

  • p1 ama on 07/05/2017 - 11:48
    +7

    For $2,000, I'd say that you're getting pretty good value.

    I'd say that leather seats are a bit of a personal preference. I used to hate them, but now that I've used them for a while, they're quite nice. I think the reason I hated them was that around 10 - 15 years ago, leather seats used to be that shiny leather which got dull over time and looked like an old sofa, but these days, the leather is a lot nicer and looks like it actually belongs in a car, not in an antique home.

    Metallic paint is obviously up to you, depends on what colour you want.

    In my opinion, I'd also say that alloy wheels are also a must. They're much easier to clean, look a lot nicer and are also a lot more durable. Steel wheels are much more prone to rust as they get old and I've always found alloy wheels to look pretty pleasing. All up, if you were to get all these separately after market, you'd be paying much more than just $2,000 for the wheels alone.

    • tonyjzx on 07/05/2017 - 12:19
      +5

      yeah no brainer. $2k for all that. go.

  • captobvious on 07/05/2017 - 12:06
    +9

    Leather seats. when your 11 year old turns 17 and starts taking home strays in the car will make it easier for them to clear up the back seats.

    • jzdhgkd on 07/05/2017 - 13:36
      +3

      Huh. Didn't know 11 year olds could turn into 17 year olds!

      • Euphemistic on 07/05/2017 - 21:22

        More likely for an 11yo to make a mess.

      • pegaxs on 07/05/2017 - 23:29
        +5

        They can. It just takes 6 years for the process to happen. So it isn't like an overnight thing. But, if you wait long enough, it can happen.

        • BasilJ on 08/05/2017 - 06:48
          +1

          Yes, part of the reason I'm choosing a small hatch is that it will be easier for my 11 year old to learn/drive in 6 years time.

          But, no picking up strays…

        • pegaxs on 08/05/2017 - 07:53
          +7

          @BasilJ: Well, if you're going to look at keeping the car for 6 years, the $2000 worth of extras is really a no brainer. You are certainly going to get your money's worth out of them in that time.

          As an ex-car salesman, I can tell you, paying extra for "metallic" paint is an absolute rort. There is no real reason why metallic paint is extra. Alloy wheels are almost standard on cars these days, but can be had for a little less than what a dealer would charge you for them. And leather seats. Genuine of aftermarket?

          As for resale value, if you are going to get a lot of use out of the vehicle and keep it for your 11yo to learn to drive it, leather, alloys and metallic paint will not make a difference after 6+ years to your return on investment, but at least you will have 6 years with of wiping seats down.

          And it's a car dealer. Go back in when you are ready to put a deposit on and knock a $1000 off their asking price and that you'll sign the contract and your $2000 extras package just became 1/2 the cost.

        • spackbace on 08/05/2017 - 12:43
          +3

          @pegaxs:

          As an ex-car salesman, I can tell you, paying extra for "metallic" paint is an absolute rort.

          Metallic paint still has a dealer charge. Whilst it may not be the full amount advertised, it's still a charge the dealer has to ad.

          So while you may be able to get it negotiated off if the margins allow for it, no one should consider it as a 'freebie' or similar.

          Source - current car salesman who knows how to cost up a car in 2 different new car brands

          And if you'd bothered to read the thread, or know the Hyundai line-up, you'd know that the model OP is looking at has the leather and alloys as factory standard. He's not just choosing to modify a car with those extras.

        • pegaxs on 08/05/2017 - 19:59
          +4

          @Spackbace: Yeah, sorry. I used to be in sales and haven't been for a while. I have also worked in body shops. Yeah, metallic paint does cost a tiny bit more, but at the manufacturing level and the quantities they would buy, there would be little to no difference between white and silver paint. But, humans basically being bower birds, we are attracted to shiney things.

          My general rule of thumb when I tell people the tricks of buying cars is, metallic paint, paint protection, dealer delivery, "genuine accessories" are all margin padding bullshit.

          And, while I like Hyundai vehicles, I don't really care to learn what all their line up trim levels are. So, sorry if I don't have a Rolodex memory of every car on the market. And OP just said it was a premium, not "I'm tossing up between the SX and the SX-L" and I'm not about to read a whole thread to glean one or two notations that may or may not be used in conversation with me later.

          My points stand. If OP is going to have the car for 6 or more years, then go with the extra options pack trim level. Negotiate a better deal on the car with the dealer when you are actually ready to put down a deposit. And I stand by my experience as a car sales scumbag, that dealer delivery, metallic paint and anything else of that ilk are bullshit, margin/profit padding bullshit. :)

        • spackbace on 08/05/2017 - 20:25

          @pegaxs:

          Lol most times I wish the ~$1495 dealer delivery was profit on the deal! Such is new car sales over the last few years, margins are quite often slimmer than that (of course dealership loads differ)

        • pegaxs on 08/05/2017 - 21:29
          +5

          @Spackbace: It is. It's basically to cover taking the vehicle out of pre-delivery mode, pulling off some plastic protective crap and giving it a quick detail. What was my favourite line when asked… "it covers getting the vehicle delivered to the dealership…" we used to put dealer plates on cars and drive them from Prix-Car in Altona to Port Melbourne. About 15km drive. That's like The Good Guys telling you that the TV is $2000, plus there is a $125 fee for getting it into their stock. Sure, if it's a one off TV or special order TV, but on a stocked vehicle, it's nothing but greed and profit padding.

          Or my other favourite, the manufacturer has a website with "$21,999 Driveaway!!" Deal and you go to the dealer and they are always sneaking shit on top. I had a dealer refuse to sell me a car at the price listed on the manufacturer home page. They insisted that the "dealer deliver" was a statutory charge and had to be paid on top of the drive away price. A call to the ACCC/VACCINE and the distributor/importer/manufacturer head office and their PR department to mention the dealer and this bullshit. Got a call from that dealer a week later saying sorry and offering the car for the website price.

          I always get asked when I am helping people buy cars… what is "dealer deliver?" And I just say… "it's the crack cocain that dealers are addicted to that most consumers don't question and just accept it as part of buying a new car…"

          I can't think of many other retail businesses that charge customers and add on charge on top of their retail price, just for the privilege of pulling the packaging off their product and storing it until some sap decides to buy it.

        • spackbace on 08/05/2017 - 22:03
          +1

          @pegaxs:

          How long ago did you work? Coz seriously many new car campaign prices nowadays don't have $1k+ gross in them.

          When Cruze was on run-out it was actually a negative at manufacturers campaign price! Was bloody stupid

        • pegaxs on 08/05/2017 - 22:31
          +8

          @Spackbace: It's been a while. Maybe 10 years and I sold premium brands. So way more margin to play with. Then I went over to motorcycles where it was down to low hundreds and no room to move. Got out of that game real quick.

          After spending around 10 years in the automotive industry, I got out as I couldn't live with being a snake in the grass and the dealer principles and sales managers were just filthy whores to money with no respect to customers… Ironically, I ended up working for the casino, but as least there, people knew they were being ripped off.

          Now I spend a lot of time applying my insider knowledge to help people buy cars and avoid the bullshittery dealers put out there. Buying a car can be an emotional process for lots of people. I am a sociopath when it comes to buying cars/bikes now. No emotion and no caring. Almost robotic.

          And nothing personal against you, spackbace, you're awesome, you give out heaps of good advice here when it comes to cars and I generally don't need to reply a lot of the time if I have seen you've been in the thread. But at the end of the day, dealers are cancer. Sales guys, a majority of the time, are the worst. They lie, cheat, entrap and manipulate people. Apart from telcos, car dealers would have to be the next complained about group of people. About the same rung as real estate agents. Just as slimey and greasy. The sooner that we can buy cars direct from manufacturers, the better. Amazon for cars with click and collect, sign me up for that shit! :D

        • spackbace on 08/05/2017 - 22:54
          +4

          @pegaxs:

          In an ideal world, car sales would be a fixed price, like going into Coles or buying off Amazon.

          But even with fixed price sales, people will still feel ripped off or they'll still want to negotiate - nature of the beast unfortunately.

          I'm having de-ja-vu I'm certain we've had similar convos before lol. Had a couple of colleagues go work for MB, and the manufacturer bonuses on their demo's are insane! Definitely make it better value for money (and mean that many dealership staff are driving new car demo's lol)

        • pegaxs on 08/05/2017 - 22:57

          @Spackbace: And while ever people will pay extra for sparkly paint and accept the "metallic paint, extra" mantra, it will exist.

          Humans sure are a funny lot…

        • spackbace on 08/05/2017 - 22:59

          @pegaxs:

          Eh, we're the same lot that buy a coffee for $4.50, or a post-mix Coke for $5+ at the movies.

          Suzuki sell the 2-tone paint options for $1250, how does that make your blood pressure go? ;)

        • pegaxs on 08/05/2017 - 23:05
          +4

          @Spackbace: I own a Swift! Awesome car. But if a salesman told me that, there would be some serious table flipping going on!

          But to be fair, after working in a body shop, applying two tone to a car is a shit process that can go 60 ways sideways. Applying modern metallic colours is no different to just straight colours…

          We used to sell a "race inspired decal kit" for XK8 Jaguars for $2300 that the local sign writer used to make up for us at $100 a pop! $1250 for two tone paint. You guys are amateurs… :D

        • Fobsessive on 09/05/2017 - 14:15

          @Spackbace: Who on OzBargain buys cinema food/drink though

        • This Guy on 10/05/2017 - 20:34

          @Spackbace:

          Source - current car salesman who knows how to cost up a car in 2 different new car brands

          Talk to your fleet manager. It is the same concept across brands.

          When Cruze was on run-out it was actually a negative at manufacturers campaign price! Was bloody stupid

          If you believe that then you are in the wrong industry :-P

    • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2017 - 00:28

      Stray animals or stray humans?

    • Seraphin7 on 08/05/2017 - 09:01
      +2

      Up vote for the use of "strays" … haven't heard that in years!

    • cameldownunder on 09/05/2017 - 13:43

      And leather is good for when they are younger, when there's spill, breakfast finished in the car, Shlurpies from 7/11 being consumed in the back, and you go at Mac Drive-through.

  • doctordv8 on 07/05/2017 - 12:56

    A higher optioned car for sale will always be far better value on resale than the standard equivalent.
    Go for double value and grab a demo. All the bugs out, only a few k's, run in and often fully optioned. You are not paying for all the options added, but you are paid when you on sell in a year or three.

    It is up to you whether you want the extras on offer for the price on the day, as every person values Leather Seats for eg, differently. I always throw sheep skins on so leather is a waste of a cow for me.

    • lostn on 15/07/2017 - 11:17
      -1

      Options don't add resale value. Doesn't mean you shouldn't get them if you want them, but if it's for the purpose of resale value you won't get them.

      They're also purposefully expensive.

  • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2017 - 13:10

    Yeah will resale for more, you will get back an extra $100 when u sell. unless it's a safety pack of suck like the mazda range I wouldn't bother.

    • BasilJ on 08/05/2017 - 06:45
      +1

      Thanks. $100 return at sale for $2000 doesn't sound like its a good deal at all. So if I do get these, it would be purely for my own satisfaction.

  • spersephone on 07/05/2017 - 19:24

    You can get exceptional seat covers that are custom fit to your car for about $450. If you're thinking of that, go with high quality ones.

    • BasilJ on 08/05/2017 - 06:46

      Do you have a place to recommend? How do I tell exceptional ones apart from mediocre ones?

      I think I also have to consider air bags, because seat covers could potentially affect the function of some.

      • spersephone on 09/05/2017 - 18:09

        I was going to go with http://www.jcseatcovers.co.uk/ because at the time they were the only ones I could find that would custom fit my car. In the end I didn't, but I'm still considering it and think it's worthwhile.

      • This Guy on 10/05/2017 - 21:01

        Airbag seams should be standard on any seat cover advertised for a car that has side airbags. Still check with the manufacturer.

        https://www.mycustomcar.com.au/

        has custom seats for almost any car. They are used by at least one of our major parts chains. The parts chain is normally cheaper but offers a smaller range.

  • srhardy on 08/05/2017 - 07:38
    +2

    YES, $2k for thoes extras is good value, jump at it

    Now rust, pain and carpet protection is best done 3rd party of at all IMO

    • macrocephalic on 09/05/2017 - 16:26

      Rust protection is unnecessary unless you live near the ocean. Modern cars just don't rust like they used to in the 80's. My wife's car has had a scratch, right down to the metal, for about 6 years. It still hasn't developed rust!

      • spackbace on 09/05/2017 - 20:45
        +1

        We don't actually sell the electronic rust devices any more…

        Make of that what you will ;)

  • HeWhoKnows on 08/05/2017 - 07:45
    +1

    The decision is entirely up to you. We wont be driving YOUR car. So go away and have a think about it.
    In terms of value. The price is about right. Its definitely not cheap nor expensive.
    As you know anytime anyone sells you up to the extras (chips and a coke with a Big Bac) its because that is where they make their money.

    • BasilJ on 08/05/2017 - 08:09

      Thanks. I love how I can get advice from people who actually know about cars more than I do.

      I'm absolutely clueless! Until this post, I didn't even know regular wheels could rust, and alloy wheels don't.

      • Gershom on 09/05/2017 - 07:51

        Well, they CAN rust, but they don't. They are powder coated.

        • vid_ghost on 09/05/2017 - 13:51

          my old 2009 mazda 3 steel rims rusted

      • vid_ghost on 09/05/2017 - 13:50

        ive got TWO i30's 2014 Trophy Leather+alloys auto white - $21600 Tinting mats weather shields white plates

        2016/17 Active X Leather+alloys auto white - $22600 Tinting mats weather shields white plates

        NSW drive away Bankstown Hyundai

        both are great.. no issues I HATE THE NEW MODEN it looks like garbage on wheels :)

    • cameldownunder on 09/05/2017 - 13:44
      +1

      "The decision is entirely up to you. We wont be driving YOUR car. So go away and have a think about it."
      Wow, I did read … have a drink about it …

  • theguru1 on 08/05/2017 - 08:30
    +1

    If you are really concerned about resale I would be buying the new I30. It's had great reviews and isn't just a cosmetic upgrade.
    It is better to go to a higher level model than add extras.
    In the end the extras you talk about will add little to resale, if anything.
    The now old model will generally suffer greater depreciation which hopefully is part covered by any discount you get now.

  • theguru1 on 08/05/2017 - 08:37

    I've always put sheepskin covers in my vehicles even when I've had leather seats.
    Scratched leather doesn't look that good and it will scratch easily particularly with kids.
    Scotchguard is an option.

  • gimli on 09/05/2017 - 07:09
    +1

    Eneloopy

  • Gershom on 09/05/2017 - 07:49

    The extras are never worth it, and often laughable. e.g. A rear spoiler on a front wheel drive. Why? Incredible stupidity.

    • [Deactivated] on 09/05/2017 - 09:46

      very true to those who have never done any sort of motorsport…. yet this one does 1 minute and 35s at SMSP…

      http://www.worldtimeattack.com/index.php/pro-am-class-101-mo…

      • Gershom on 09/05/2017 - 16:53
        +1

        Still laughable, it would go faster without the drag of the spoiler. Front. Wheel. Drive! What possible use could a spoiler be? It's neither over the driving wheels or the steering wheels. Just plain stupid.

        • [Deactivated] on 09/05/2017 - 17:36

          you should do motorsport first for a few years, seriously with aim to go faster and faster. then conclude after you have some findings. i have only been doing track days for 4 years but i can only see those who have done really silly fast lap times in street cars (fwd, awd, rwd) they use the benefits of aero such as rear wing.

        • pegaxs on 10/05/2017 - 20:06

          @signherepls123: lol @ rear wing = big gains. Unless you have a lot of other aero effect junk on your car and an engine big enough to push it through the air, it's just creating drag. You want to get on YouTube and watch a few videos about aerodynamic systems for cars and why ricers with big wings and front spoilers are wasting time, money and actually going slower…

          I have been racing cars, karts, bikes and doing track days almost all my life (30+ years), and always have guys in cars with big stupid wings and shit hanging off it asking how I go faster than them without it… Weight and drag. You're not doing 260km/h in the corners in your Falcon XR8, all you're doing it carrying weight and wing that makes drag.

          The WRX STI has that stupid big spoiler on the back, because it sells cars, not because it cuts seconds off your track day lap times… :D

  • misterpotatomato on 09/05/2017 - 10:21

    That's a lot for a Hyundai i30. I got a Skoda Octavia with style pack (leather seats, Xenon headlights, rain sensing wipers, adaptive cruise control, gorgeous interior, etc etc) with a 5 year warranty and included roadside assistance for 28,990. That's 6k more than your car and I get that but you could get a base level Octavia or maybe relatively nice Fabia for that money.

    Just my two cents

  • Cluster on 09/05/2017 - 11:44

    I bought a new i30 last year, and chose to pay extra for a diesel engine rather than leather seats and alloys. The engine burns a lot less fuel, and often diesel is cheaper than petrol, so I expect a return on investment around the 100k km mark. The diesel vehicle will be worth more than petrol at sale time.

    I cover my seats with thick sheep skin seat covers so leather wouldn't do anything for me. Alloy wheels are very nice, but if you drive too close to the kerb you can easily damage them. A new plastic hub cap is very cheap.

    In terms of resale value for an upgraded model, it really depends on how long you keep the vehicle. I sold a Mitsubishi Lancer in VRX trim after 11 years. It made virtually no difference to resale after that time versus a plain model.

    • vid_ghost on 09/05/2017 - 13:54

      i grined my two i30's Active X and Trophy into sidewalks and they never scratch.. my tire sidewall take the impact because Hyundai have recessed the allows :) so smart

  • OzzyOzbourne on 09/05/2017 - 12:24
    -1

    I can't really say whether those options are worth $2000 to you as I don't know you well enough. I'm afraid you'll have to decide yourself.

  • narcoleptic-haze on 09/05/2017 - 12:51
    +1

    It's hard to say if it's worth it really .. it's a personal thing. I recently bought a new Golf. I couldn't afford the GTI but could afford to make a regular one just a little bit more 'special'. So I added on a bunch of safety features, a sports driving mode, fancy moving Xenon & LED lights, a sunroof and an all round package which added sporty extras like a sports steering wheel (the same one from the GTI), the steering from the GTI, bigger wheels and different front, back and side trim panels.

    For me, it makes it feel a little bit more special than a regular one so I feel it was money well spent. I didn't want to get a 'good enough' car. So without going crazy (ie: getting the GTI - a further $10,000 btw), the add-ons made sense.

    In terms of living with these features:

    Leather seats - less comfortable than cloth, but nicer and more durable. Keep in mind though that they will almost certainly be made partly of fake leather/vinyl - depending on manufacturer. But the most import bits (the seat and the seat back) should be real.

    Alloy wheels - look much better than steel+covers. Won't fly off while driving like covers can. But if you scratch them on a curb, it's there for good.

  • vid_ghost on 09/05/2017 - 13:56

    the active X will not be an option on the new version EVER!! .. they will only be putting leather on the SR or premium cars from now on going forward… 26k + for leather..

    So from today onwards the runout active X will be the LAST time we see a NEW car from any company with leather at the $22k drive away price point

    • spackbace on 09/05/2017 - 20:47

      Not from 'any' company. I'm 100% confident that you'd be able to buy a new car with leather for $22k or less.

      • vid_ghost on 10/05/2017 - 09:44

        Hyundai was the only one doing it from the FACTORY with leather on the doors, seats, gear shift and wheel.

        You can go into any dealership and buy a 15-17k small car and pay $2,000 to get leather seats put on as an aftermarket thing you if really want it but to get factory fitted leather thats going to be north of 25k from today onwards..

        Hyundai will no longer be doing a special edition base model with leather anymore as they have found out they lose too many sales from the upgraded models

  • DangerNoodle on 09/05/2017 - 15:24

    A bit random, but where do you work? You don't have to answer, but back when I worked in pharmacy, one of the suppliers Sigma could hook us up with corporate pricing on some vehicles (usually a few grand off with a few extras on top)

    • BasilJ on 09/05/2017 - 16:22

      I work at a comparison website for financial products called RateCity. No corporate pricing here as far as i know.

      • DangerNoodle on 09/05/2017 - 19:46

        Ahh, okay.

        My tip is always bargain them down. Last time I bought a car for my mum, I bargained 3k off the price of a yaris and forced them to drop the interest rate from 8% down to 4.3%. Ask for free extras.

  • All Blacks NZ on 09/05/2017 - 16:01
    +1

    To be honest, new cars are not worth it to me. I rather buy a 6-12 month old or demo car. They are still under warranty and you can save heaps on depreciation. You don't get the new car smell though. I made a mistake of buying a new car and will never do it again.

  • Handsoff on 09/05/2017 - 17:49

    It's hard to say because you're asking specifically what the return will be on the $2000 of factory options (where this will largely be influenced by other factors to do with the car). You might not get anything at all back (in terms of $$$ value) for the extras so things to consider are:
    - You'll spend a lot less time selling the car (how much is your time worth?). A more aesthetically car is always easier to sell.
    - You'll be a lot more comfortable driving the car around over the time that you have it
    - Leather seats are A LOT easier to clean. Fabric seats aren't cheap to clean properly as smells are a lot harder to get out of fabric. Why go cheap and buy expensive seat covers which you'll need to replace (which won't add any benefit when come time to resale) vs going leather and having some benefit at resale.

  • BasilJ on 09/05/2017 - 17:55
    +1

    Thanks. I'm now a proud owner of a new red i30 Active X, comes with leather seats. Old model, but I suspect I wouldn't care that much about the differences. Appreciate all the advice.

    Now, car insurance. Who has somewhere to recommend? Cash rewards has Youi insurance with a cashback $57.

    • vid_ghost on 10/05/2017 - 09:48

      wollworths came out as the cheapest for me to insure my i30 Active X i got 2 months ago

      The active X uses a port injected engine that will last longer then any direct injected engine.

      its rated at the same fuel economy as the 2.0L direct injected engine in the new model i30

      The 6 speed auto in the active X is one of the best and most reliable of its kind. the new dual clutch in the new i30 looks good but i wouldn't risk duel clutch in an everyday runabout and in traffic its bad to nudge forward in a dual clutch.. it will destroy it.

      The old car is almost in every way better then the new model.. :) when it comes to reliability

  • eyeLikeCarrots on 09/05/2017 - 18:28

    Get John from http://autoexpert.com.au/ to see if he can get you a good price on whatever you are after.

    I'm willing to bet get could get you a killer deal on the previous model.

    • spackbace on 09/05/2017 - 20:48

      Should've read the comment above yours…

  • GregMonarch on 09/05/2017 - 20:03
    -1

    1. Buying a new car - at all - isn't worth it. ;-p

    2. I don't understand the attraction of leather seats. They always look tired, worn, cracked, nicked… Years sooner than cloth do, reducing the resale value of the car. And with children… Wow, you're game. Even if you fuss over the leather constantly… just take a look at your/their clothes. So many pants have metal studs and brands tacked on that can nick the leather. Better to get cloth seats and material covers where the young kids sit. Then sheepskin for older kids/adults. You can remove them later, revealing like-new seats underneath. Or get seat covers in a suede style fabric, that feel even better than leather.

    I wouldn't buy a new car even if I were a millionaire. They're all throw-away items today. I'd buy an older car, or a restored car some twit spent $40,000 or more restoring, but now can't sell it for more than $15,000. People will then say silly things like, but new cars use less fuel… Um… saving $ on fuel make zero sense, when they're throwing thousands away the moment they drive their new car out of the sales yard, and continue losing a couple of thousand every year until they sell it. (Which is usually just a few years later, when they want to buy another depreciating new toy.) The real reason is, they're justifying buying a new toy - to look and feel wealthy - while making themselves poor. Because many people don't even pay cash, lol! They tack it on their home loan instead. Thus they're paying interest for the 2/5/10 cars they upgraded years ago, no longer own, until the house loan is fully repaid. Why not buy something old, cheap, with cash - get it serviced, but who cares if the kids put a rip in the seat - buy new $70 covers every six months - pay someone to detail it even - and still save thousands.

    In fact, buy the right old car and it will increase in value, not go down. I see plain boring rust-buckets like XB/XC Fords and Kingswoods go for stupid prices. Don't need to go that old. But get something some goose has already lost thousands on before you, due to depreciation. You also save on parts and servicing because they're easier to work on and the parts were made years ago. The list of reasons goes on.

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