Donald Trump Has Plans to Completely Change The Visa Law for Australians, and It's Not Good

avgbowlofpho on 28/01/2017 - 18:35
Last edited 28/01/2017 - 20:12

So now Trump has been officially named president America has gone to shit. But this awful reign won't just affect America, but literally anyone travelling to America. News has it that Trump will have a new law in order to change how Australians are able to visit America. So this new law will make it twice as difficult as it was before. Trump is making a law where if you want to travel to America you have to fly to either Sydney or Canberra to have a one-to-one interview at the USA embassy to then obtain your visa, absolutely ridiculous.

If you thought Trump's wall was ridiculous, this is even worse!

EDIT
THIS WILL NOT AFFECT ANY PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAVELLING TO THE USA FOR BUSINESS OR LEISURE FOR LESS THAN 90 DAYS. You can still apply for a visa online
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Comments

        • 2ndeffort on 01/02/2017 - 15:04

          @talebi: Do you know there are a number of Middle Eastern countries where, if they see a stamp in your passport that you've been to Israel they will reject you regardless of whether you have a valid visa or not. you dont have to be an Israeli citizen, just having been a visitor to Israel is enough. How upset are you about that? Are you more or less angry with them than you are about trump's 90 ban against a list of countries that was put together by Obama's administration?

        • atali on 01/02/2017 - 15:11

          @2ndeffort: did I say that I approve that? oh I dont. but I dont think if you heard your friends and family's life put in chaos after the exec orders while they were flying to us you would be happy too

        • [Deactivated] on 01/02/2017 - 15:15

          @talebi: someone reads MSM, why not actually his executive order? It's only for 30 days and for terror countries specified by obummer.

        • atali on 01/02/2017 - 15:20

          @TheClipIt: I was born in one of those banned countries so I happen to know the people affected by this (friends of friends) so not MSM. imagine a phd student who would miss their exams cause of this. yeah its only 30 days who cares…

      • Ahbal on 29/01/2017 - 19:57
        +13

        The alternative to trump was a war criminal who wanted to go to war with Russia and Iran. Trump wants to at least make some sort of allegiance with Russia, and he is the first president to try in a long time. I remember a year or so ago the world was paranoid that U.S/Russia tensions would lead to WW3, now they are ignoring this very important positive of a Trump presidency in favour of cherry picking and getting offended at his words.

        • Dapple on 29/01/2017 - 23:31
          +1

          A cosy display of personal ego fulfilling based rhetoric between leaders does not necessarily mean a postive effective alliance by any means. It's too early in relations to know how that will turn out.

          Aren't you forgetting about "Chi-na"?

        • Ahbal on 29/01/2017 - 23:39
          +2

          @Infy_AsiX:

          No mention of Trump wanting to stop sanctions against Russia (the main source of friction). Is that classified as "ego"? Not to mention having a non hostile viewpoint about Russia in the first place. It seems all western leaders still follow the Cold War stereotypes, atleast Trump does not follow that, which is a good start as is. They may not become cosy allies, but atleast they may be non hostile.

          In regard to China, I'll have to agree there, we will have to wait and see. However, my original point still stands, Hillary was no doubt the worse option considering her history.

        • Dapple on 30/01/2017 - 00:16
          +2

          @Ahbal:
          Well it would seem logical to view Russia with some "Cold War stereotype" caution given their "Cold War stereotype" actions and diplomacy. Just to name Ukraine and Crimea as examples. Putin's public statements, leaked/uncovered controversial covert operations and he's ex-KGB in that respect after all. I view the main concern currently regarding Trump and Putin is that the former is egotistical and an idiot trying to appease an established former enemy while the latter is just playing the game.

          That said, I just looked up Obama's record on NSA and Snowden. USA's by no means clean in it's intelligence. Then there was the idiot Bush that came before that started all of that. The fact is with power and people's flaws, America's done a lot of wrong in it's time meddling in international affairs. But at least with a smarter less flawed leader more right can be done outweighing the wrongs.

        • Ahbal on 30/01/2017 - 00:27
          +3

          @Infy_AsiX:

          Yes I agree on all points raised. Both countries no doubt have their flaws. Ukraine/Crimea I stopped following as my background is middle eastern, so it gets confusing for me to try to understand European politics sometimes. Bush also I agree with, he set the ball rolling per say, and Obama catalysed a greater snowball effect.

          I certainly get an appeasement sort of vibe about Trump/Putin, however nothing official has happened yet. So it's another thing on the wait and see list. I do have hope that Trump could be the first to stop this American spree of intervening and sticking there nose in places they don't belong though.

          The world should just get along. I mean, Europeans used to fight each other a whole lot. If they can make peace and form as one, then surely they can incorporate Russia as well, if both parties can sort out their differences. Sadly though, that's not how it is and that is just wishful thinking.

        • Dapple on 30/01/2017 - 00:41
          +2

          @Ahbal:
          If anything it's American tradition to do so by now. I forgot to add that recent statistics show the Russian public by large majority have positive sentiments of the Soviet era and also high approval of Putin's actions and stances. But yeah, that's our world for you.

        • dazweeja on 30/01/2017 - 12:06

          @Ahbal:

          If you did follow the Ukraine, you would know that the sanctions are in place for a good reason and will be lifted as soon as Russia has fulfilled the conditions of the Minsk peace deal for eastern Ukraine. That is perfectly reasonable. Should we let countries off the hook because there is "friction"? I'm sure China would love to annex Taiwan in exactly the same way. Do they get a free pass too or does the global community say there are rules that every country must follow?

          Obama and Hillary - as well as Merkel and the rest of the EU - are right on this and Trump is wrong.

        • Ahbal on 30/01/2017 - 12:44
          +1

          @dazweeja:

          I very clearly said that if they can sort out the differences they can be "let off the hook". Which does not apply for China, as they are not doing that now are they? Russia met the peace deal as you stated, leading to removal of sanctions as stated by you. That is, as stated by me, sorting out differences. Sure though, jump in and cherry pick and make assumptions, ignoring the points you cannot counter. I'm used to it. You make no mention of Hillary as an alternative being worse for example.

        • dazweeja on 30/01/2017 - 13:27
          +1

          @Ahbal:

          Hillary's position is the global position - that Russia must meet the conditions of the peace agreement before sanctions are lifted. Trump's position - based on his statements when he meet Theresa May a few days ago - was that he would begin talks immediately with Russia to begin lifting sanctions. Are you saying you agree with Hillary's position? If so, yes, I did assume you were supporting Trump.

        • Ahbal on 30/01/2017 - 13:50
          +1

          @dazweeja:

          I agree with Hillary's position that Russia must meet the peace agreement before sanctions are lifted, thats fair. I also agree with Trumps non hostile viewpoint of Russia as well. Obviously, if Trump were to follow and have them meet the agreement, then it should be fine-which is what I'm hoping for.

        • infinite on 30/01/2017 - 17:08

          @dazweeja: Why only a hostile attitude towards Putin/Trump over Ukraine? I mean, Obama destabilized the entire region in the lead-up to the conflict by taking away all the US-based missile systems in Poland, Ukraine and other surrounding areas which were keeping Russia at bay. The Ukraine knew exactly what this meant & the US stood by and did nothing to help them, nor did anyone else in the EU. Wikileaks published Obama's comm's to President Medvedev at the time, confirming in advance that he was going to do it.

          Obama and the US are no different when it comes to annexing other countries/land and refusing to give them back, while laughing off the threat of political sanctions. A direct comparison is how Obama had US interests, political groups and intelligence services undermine Puerto Rico's national movement to gain independence from the US in 2011, then he ignored the result of the national referendum in 2012 which people voted to gain independence from the US - AND then laid out threats against them politically. He went as far as to remind them on national TV that they have no rights in the US, can't vote any representatives into US congress & that US citizens still retain the right to vote in their own local elections in Puerto Rico……….

        • dazweeja on 30/01/2017 - 17:51

          @infinite:

          Not sure what you're talking about mate. The US weren't due to put interceptor missiles into Ukraine until 2017. Obama changed tack because he was advised to by Robert Gates - the same guy (GWB's Defense Secretary) who came up with the idea for the missile shield in the first place - because the original plan was inadequate. I suggest you read this:

          http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/opinion/20gates.html

          "Last week, President Obama — on my recommendation and with the advice of his national-security team and the unanimous support of our senior military leadership — decided to discard that plan in favor of a vastly more suitable approach."

        • WT on 01/02/2017 - 11:56

          Isnt russia at war with ukraine at the moment? Its not really covered in any media and I think (could be way wrong) that the russian missile that shot the ukrainian passenger plane was the only real media attention it got.

  • branners on 29/01/2017 - 16:36
    +1
    Merged from Thinking of Trip to USA? You May Want to Wait

    I thought that I would pass this on, for what it is worth…
    Mrs B and I have been thinking about our next holiday and we happened to mention to my SIL that some of the destinations in mind are UK and USA.
    Her sister is a travel agent, with a lot of experience in that business. So, the advice coming back was, don't lock anything in just yet.
    Seems that there is a lot of work going on in the background to push destinations other than the USA. Many saw the Trump/Muslim ban coming, but the rapid effect to derail air travel for a lot of people has hit harder and quicker than just about everyone imagined.
    So, her expert advice was, wait a few days, maybe a week, and watch for the special, subsidised deals.
    I suspect the one posted earlier here www.ozbargain.com.au/node/289444 could be about the level we could see.
    Like I said, I am not expert myself, but there could be a lot of good deals around.

    • try2bhelpful on 29/01/2017 - 17:57
      +2

      I'm not rewarding stupid people by spending my tourist dollars in America; and I have travelled in America quite a lot previously. I love San Francisco and New Orleans; we were even in Atlanta when 911 happened. I'm heading to Europe this year; most likely the South of France in September/October. Thanks on the headsup for deals, did that apply to Europe as well?

      • blitz on 29/01/2017 - 21:31

        South of France

        OMG yes. Yes yes yes yes yes.

      • infinite on 30/01/2017 - 17:12
        +1

        LOL, if you are avoiding the US because you don't like their politics, you better steer well-clear of France. They have a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder right-leaning government about to come in to power and they are already further right than the US is at the moment, politically speaking.

        • try2bhelpful on 31/01/2017 - 07:56

          I know there has been bans on the Niqab, which despite my left leanings I would prefer to see myself, and some local governments that think the bikini is OK but the burquini isn't, which I think is nuts, please give other examples. I am genuinely interested before I make choices.

    • holdenmg on 29/01/2017 - 19:07
      +1

      Just Ban Trump.

      (Problem solv'd). lol

    • Sunshines bright on 29/01/2017 - 19:44
      -3

      I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ANYONE SPEND THEIR MONEY IN THE USA, AT LEAST NOT FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS.

      I AM A US CITIZEN and FORMER US MILITARY AND TRUMP HAS EMBARRASSED ME TO THE POINT THAT I Am GLAD I WILL NEVER RETURN TO THE US.

      I was having a hard time trying to decide to become an Australian Citizen now that Trump is in office - it will be an easy decision to make. I was eligible May 2016 but until November I could find no reason to become an Australian.

      So do not support the USA for the next 4 years is my advice!!!!

      • Almost Banned on 29/01/2017 - 19:50
        +7

        If not having a person you dislike as your head of state is your prerequisite for citizenship you might want to reconsider Australia.
        The Queen is 90 now…

        • AlienC on 29/01/2017 - 21:40

          Yeah but the Queen is harmless and adorable. She ain't hurting ornkilling no one. Sure she may look mean but that is about it. Plus she is 90 cmon man haha lol.

        • Sunshines bright on 29/01/2017 - 21:44
          +2

          blaircam, that was not the point.

          Logically the only reason for an American to become an Aussie too (dual citizenship)is to be allowed to vote and/or for nostalgic reasons such as "pride". Both countries are grand democracies, only the governments are run differently; and as you say you have a Queen whom you consider the head and the US has an elected president.

          The thing is for the most part your Queen allows your government to run itself but the US President will be running the country and for me, the American people put that man in office… which is my reason for no longer wanting to claim to be American. It is not so much because of who is in office but because I feel my country betrayed me by electing him and I expect he will be bad for the country. I was not so keen on being "forced" to vote so I was in no hurry to become an Australian citizen before.

          But your right not liking the person in charge in a democracy is not reason enough to become a citizen of another country; that is just what made me realize that it is in my best interest to play a larger part in my "new" countries policies. That requires voting and a sense of pride beyond what I had felt before.

          by the way-
          think about how many refugees come to Australia (or any civil democratic country) based on just that, "not liking who their head of state is!!! That is the main reason people seek assistance outside there country. So for you to say "for me to reconsider" is absolutely nonsense.

        • try2bhelpful on 30/01/2017 - 08:02
          +1

          @Sun n Moon: The thing to keep in mind is that voting is not compulsory in Australia, attendance is. If you want to deface your voting slip, and "void" it, go right ahead. Apparently a "cock and balls", or "none of the above" is fairly popular. However, the advantage of compulsory and perferential voting is we tend to keep the idiots to a minimum because people decide that if they have to get off their backside they will vote properly; preferential usual means you can make a protest vote without actually voting in idiots. (The fringe still arises in the senate, but they don't tend to keep a foothold for long). That said we did flirt with Tony Abbott for a while; something I am not particularly proud of.

          Hillary would've made a great President - intelligent, experienced, sane. However, the American people decided to follow the lurch to the right that is currently occuring - Brexit, Duterte in the Phillipines, ISIS. Isolationism, protectionism and their cousins bigotry and selfishness will only disenfranchise minorities and increase terrorist attacks. I think Trump will actually resign before the next American election because he has too many illegal things he has done, he will say it is because he can't get the support he needs and he will leave it to Pence - who is even more a danger than Trump is. My view is that every women who is denied an abortion in America should sue the Government for health and child support. Hit them where it hurts, at the financial level.

          The thing all Governments need to learn is that "freedom of religion" should also mean "freedom from religion"; whatever you personally practice in your own home is OK, when it affects others it isn't.

          Enjoy your time in Australia, we have our problems, but our "nanny state" rules like "compulsory seat belt and helmet laws" have reduced the road toll in Victoria by 2/3rds since I was a girl.

        • WT on 01/02/2017 - 12:05

          @try2bhelpful: It was a pick between shit and shitter. imo bernie should have gotten the job.

        • try2bhelpful on 02/02/2017 - 13:00

          @WT: Hillary was, bar far, the best candidate of all of them. Unfortunately America, and the world in general, has lurched very far to the right. I consider that we will all look back on this election as an opportunity missed. There was so much fake news brought up about Hillary, including by the FBI, it just makes me feel sick. Particularly when you put it against what people were willing to accept out of Trumps own mouth. This really is beginning to look like the 1930s all over again.

      • RockyRaccoon on 29/01/2017 - 20:12
        +4

        So do not support the USA for the next 4 years is my advice

        Yep Don would love that, all the pinkies and ratbags (his words not mine) leave and the next election he gets a greater majority. Stop listening to our ABC and go back to fight for your beliefs rather than run away.

        • Sunshines bright on 29/01/2017 - 22:18
          +1

          Thanks for the advice but I happen to LOVE Australia and have no plans to return to the USA. I had no intent to go back before he was elected as I love this county where I have made my home; OZ. I was just on the fence about becoming a dual citizen. Not any more!

        • try2bhelpful on 30/01/2017 - 08:07
          +2

          It is pointless trying to "fight" anything in the USA at the moment; the morons knew what Trump was like but they voted him in anyway. Sanity is only going to prevail when they wake up with the mother of all hangovers and wonder what they have done. The problem is that quite a chunk of American civil rights will be trashed in the meantime. Give it a few years and it will be like post war Germany; a bunch of people denying they followed the Cheetoh president. The ABC is stating the facts, that people can't understand this is the reason we have people like Trump and Pauline Hanson elected. It is interesting that Trump was actively backed by the Russians, so the "Pinko" comment is rather ironic.

        • RockyRaccoon on 30/01/2017 - 09:53
          +3

          @Sun n Moon:

          I was just on the fence about becoming a dual citizen. Not any more!

          I think you need to understand your country's laws.

          Becoming an Australian Citizen, means you still retain your US citizenship. You must volunteer to renounce your US citizenship, becoming an Aussie, desnt remove your US citizenship

          https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerati…

          Rather than being emotional about an election loss by your preferred candidate, realise in a democracy its not always your designated good guy/gal who wins.

          I hope you arent one of those who wants democracy for your candidate and not for the other. Thats not democracy thats dictatorship

          Fighting for democracy means just that. Fighting not whinging and running away

          Welcome to OZ  😀

        • Sunshines bright on 30/01/2017 - 23:23

          @RockyRaccoon: I did say becoming a becoming a
          'dual' citizen. :)

      • blitz on 29/01/2017 - 21:43
        +2

        I could find no reason to become an Australian.

        OMG mate have you seen the Hills Hoist? We invented that!!!

    • justhooked on 29/01/2017 - 20:07
      +1

      Travel in the USA and Canada is more expensive at the moment because a lot of Americans are traveling at home/Canada
      And not Europe due to the threat of attacks , we did Alaska Canada and the west coast of the USA last year and the prices this year are nearly double and most places are booked out. This also shows with cruises being expensive in the USA and a lot cheaper in Europe this year

  • Peck on 29/01/2017 - 17:21
    +3

    I think Trump is a 'Dope' but at least he is trying a lot of new things. Some are sure to fail, but some just might succeed. Compare this to the inaction on a wide range of matters by our PM.

  • freakatronic on 29/01/2017 - 20:57
    +21

    Can't avoid the Trump hate even on my favourite bargain hunting corner of the internet.

    He was democratically elected. Every nation has the right to determine its own border policy. Explain the problem to me again, like an adult please.

    • Peck on 29/01/2017 - 21:28
      +10

      HeHe! Yup. What gives people from other countries the thought that they have the right to enter or migrate to a certain country?

    • OBEY YOUR MASTERS on 29/01/2017 - 21:34
      +15

      The guy has been the president for one week and people are already blaming him for everything under the sun. Ofcourse they completely disregard the sins of the previous administrations which caused all the problems in the first place. Just ridiculous.

    • syousef on 30/01/2017 - 11:44
      -2

      So were Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini

      • freakatronic on 30/01/2017 - 16:11
        +6

        The old "Everyone I disagree with is Hitler". Yes, point taken.

        • syousef on 31/01/2017 - 05:25

          No, actually it's the old "Everyone that behaves similarly to Hitler is dangerous".

          This isn't about disagreement. It's about mistreating people based on their background without any justification or proof of wrong doing.

          You'll find I'm not some lone internet troll making the comparison - historians are doing the same.

          https://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&espv=2&q=historians…

        • Squidmcsproggen on 31/01/2017 - 18:08

          @syousef:

          a bit like the 16 nations i listed further down.

      • McFly on 30/01/2017 - 17:17
        +6

        syousef, you really need to get a clue.
        Let go of the hate in your mind and fill the vacant space with reason.
        A few actual facts would do you some good as well.

        • syousef on 31/01/2017 - 05:23
          -2

          And yet you presented not a single fact, and are the one backing a position of irrational hate.

  • Skramit on 29/01/2017 - 23:39
    +14

    How do I neg this thread?

    #fakenews

    • arcticmonkey on 30/01/2017 - 19:22

      Care to say something original instead of uncreatively regurgitating someone else's words?

      • Skramit on 30/01/2017 - 20:31
        +1

        Nope. I'm happy with my fake news hashtag thanks.

  • da1andonly on 29/01/2017 - 23:51
    +2

    Vote for Trump!

  • elMor on 30/01/2017 - 00:29
    +6

    People of the rest of the world should stop bothering America. They have the right to choose their President and then that President should have right to do whatever he thinks best for his country. If you don't like Trump , just don't go to America and stop thinking about them. Mind your own business and make your country as powerful and great as America, so that people don't need to go to America anyway.

    • phoenixx on 30/01/2017 - 02:05
      +2

      Perhaps an easier thing to do in a less globalised world. This experiment will affect us all, for better or worse.

  • kcyw on 30/01/2017 - 00:34

    I never knew Ozbargain has so many Trump supporters, or at least people speaking in defence of Trump.

    Trump immigration order bans Australian dual citizens from U.S.

    https://twitter.com/i/moments/825501825478438912

    Is this true? Someone even wrote that being born in one of the 7 countries get you banned, without dual citizenship. Crazy if true.

    • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 08:03
      +3

      its only a temporary thing for 30 days while trump comes up with a new immigration policy, not sure why everybody complaining. And the immigrants themselves like trump. In 2011 Obama banned immigrants from Iraq for 6 months and nobody even noticed.

    • Skramit on 30/01/2017 - 12:12
      +7

      You're forgetting the silent majority of Australia are conservative leaning…

      Whilst the progressive left are the most vocal in the media and on social media (FB, twitter), there is a larger chunk of Australia who vote conservative and have conservative views, some of these views line up nicely with the trump phenomenon. I could write 1000 words on why but it's been done to death.

      It's not "cool" to support trump, but behind the veil of anonymity, Trump has more support in Australia than the media would have you think.

      • arcticmonkey on 30/01/2017 - 19:29
        +3

        Agreed. They are conservative leaning until one of their relatives needs to use a social service such as healthcare and dies due to underfunded hospitals.

        If you are not wealthy, conservative parties don't offer a lot. You are voting for less taxes for the rich, a free market that favours big business and cuts to services such as healthcare and education.

        • RockyRaccoon on 31/01/2017 - 00:32

          ArticMonkey for President.

          Fully understands that people vote according to what they can get from the system. I need healthcare, then get others to pay, I need education, have someone else pay.

          Comrade lets hope you are healthy and well educated.so can pay rather than me…

    • WT on 01/02/2017 - 12:15

      It is my understanding that we have something similar with visiting syria, if you have traveled there they go over you with a fine tooth comb for terrorist activities when you come back. They dont call it a "ban" though as they just seems harsh? I vaguely recall a threat of cancellation of aus citizenship to someone fighting with isis.

  • frewer on 30/01/2017 - 00:58
    +4

    Just to be frank ( that is the thing I like about Australian ), others Muslim countries didn't step up and take their brothers n sisters into their big a$$ camps. Mexico has a tough border laws too. Trump is what best and what he promised to America … As others has call OP out with fake news …

  • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 02:36
    +17

    Just another BS from the media.
    Judge Trump in 4 years.
    Look at us, do we have one politician who actually cares about Australia?

    • Turd on 30/01/2017 - 07:15
      +4

      Pauline

      • greatlamp on 30/01/2017 - 13:28

        I would add Kevin Rudd, and John Howard.

      • Rhett on 01/02/2017 - 13:12
        -2

        I love Pauline!!

    • syousef on 31/01/2017 - 06:13
      -3

      That's like watching someone smash up your car with a baseball bat and asking for the owner to wait till he's done before judging.

    • Untameable on 31/01/2017 - 15:51

      Paul Keating cared. He really really gave a crap and saw long down the road.

      But you're right everyone since him (including Howard) didn't care.

      • WT on 01/02/2017 - 12:18
        +2

        fk howard

  • qwertyaz on 30/01/2017 - 06:38
    -1

    If that's true it would just make America even safer to go, why not

    • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 12:50
      +3

      Because the countries banned produced 0(zero) terrorists in the last 15 years.

      All of those who produced the few, have not been banned.

      Also, chances for an american to be killed by a terrorist are 1 in 1.3billion. You are more likely to be killed by a cow than a terrorist !

      • McFly on 30/01/2017 - 13:11
        +1

        Because the countries banned produced 0(zero) terrorists in the last 15 years.

        I just don't know what to say…

      • Untameable on 31/01/2017 - 15:52

        If that's so then why has Obama been bombing those countries for the past few years, and why did Obama put together the list of 7 countries restricting their visas as havens for terrorists?

        • [Deactivated] on 01/02/2017 - 18:48

          See this image: http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2016-09-01-1472759565-49325…

        • Untameable on 01/02/2017 - 21:33

          @zapy: That doesn't answer my question.

          I didn't ask what the statistics are re: deaths by terrorism. I asked why Obama has been bombing those 7 countries, and why he restricted their visas saying they supported terrorists.

          After that I'll ask why there are protests in the streets now that Trump said no to further entry, given that Obama was restricting AND murdering them.

  • DiscoJango on 30/01/2017 - 08:39
    +12

    One thing i admire about him, is that he actually does things, and does them fast. Too often, politicians are all talk, taking months, even years to half follow through with what they promised. Trump is making a point of applying some of his major policies asap as a show of force

    • 2ndeffort on 30/01/2017 - 12:16
      +3

      Totally agree. I reckon he isnt worried about upsetting anyone. He knows that his supporters want him to enact his platform and his detractors will just make stuff up to hate him even more so he might as well get on and make a difference. he is in an interesting place for the US. All of those tough calls that Presidents have had to shy away from for fear of political backlash? He is just smashing his way through, pity he doesnt support Gun Control!

      • greatlamp on 30/01/2017 - 13:30
        +1

        This is a classic leadership ploy, get all the unpopular laws enacted early, then he can spend the remaining 7 years 11 months kissing babies and cutting ribbons at new factories

        • 2ndeffort on 30/01/2017 - 13:59
          +6

          I have a feeling that having set the scene, Donald will keep on keeping on. Hard to see a scenario where he becomes the darling of the SJW set.

      • WT on 01/02/2017 - 12:45

        But it doesnt seem like things are thought out with long term in mind.

        Build a wall, contract to a corrupt company (you are the gov ffs). Its gonna be 10+ years being 2200 miles. Impose a 20% tax to make mexico pay? Lol that americans paying!

        2ndeffort Not sure if I totally agree with gun control. Even if you must have a safe with a minimum standard, it will stop a lot of legal guns being stolen and used in crimes. People just leave shit lying around. Got back from Vegas to a mates condo, sit on the couch, wtf is that jabbing me behind the cushion, reach around and its a glock 19, he said to just put it with his shotgun under the couch. WTF! Ammo bans in CA where you have to show your license wont stop crims getting ammo, they can just get a mate to ship it to them in the mail from another state. They need to cut the supply to the criminals, then give it time and illegal guns will reduce.

  • fruit on 30/01/2017 - 09:15

    Source?

  • JakDac on 30/01/2017 - 09:50
    +1

    AU/US duals get TAXED by the US on their house sale and Super. They are trying to get the tax treaty fixed but it is NOT happening even their children if they never went to the States have to pay Citizen Based Tax. The US is the only western country to do this. Check out fixthetaxtreaty.org.
    Please help

    No action will be able to be taken on the Australia-US Tax Treaty in the near future.

    ??????????????????

    I’m sorry to say mate but this issue has been put on the backburner with the current change in administration over in the US.

    I’m sure you’ll have heard the news about Trump withdrawing the US from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. At this stage the Government does not expect changes to the Australia-US Tax Treaty in the near future.

    The Treasurer’s office has asked me to pass along their apologies that no action will be able to be taken on this matter for the foreseeable future.

    Yours sincerely
    Ross

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  • scratchback on 30/01/2017 - 10:55
    +2

    Stop PC. Only people from those 7 countries should worry about it. And what a pity that Saudi Arabia is not on the list. Some resource says it's Democratic Party that is strongly against putting Saudi Arabia on the list.
    Trump keeps his promises which amazes me a lot. No matter it's good or not, at least he is doing something.
    I wish australia could follow similar policy.

    • RockyRaccoon on 30/01/2017 - 11:03

      We have to change our constitution first.

      To get laws passed its not just a PM (President) saying so, its needs the House of Reps to pass it, then the senate

      Have you noticed how cooperative the senate is?

  • Needles on 30/01/2017 - 11:00
    +7

    I dont see anything wrong with Trump's policy. The immi policy in any advanced country needs to be reexamined. Refuge immi has developed into a huge industry that many lawyers politicians etc feed themself easily. Trump is the hope of Amercia. sadly we don't have Trump here. Pauline Hanson is just stupid.

    • syousef on 30/01/2017 - 13:01
      -3

      Considering their gun crime rate, you'd have as much luck stopping crime and terrorism by refusing to let Americans back in.

      If you think Trump will save America, I have no idea how to even talk to you.

      • Needles on 30/01/2017 - 13:45
        +1

        I don't see anything we can talk nicely. What you can do however is to update your knowledge in a wide perspective then we might be able to talk. God will bless you

        • syousef on 30/01/2017 - 14:14
          +1

          Here's a wide perspective for you: Not everyone believes in your god, or any god for that matter.

  • syousef on 30/01/2017 - 11:42

    Why would anyone book a holiday to the US now? Especially if you have any kind of background.

    My background is Egyptian Christian. I was born here, making me an Australian citizen. But both my parents born in Egypt. Luckily right now Egypt isn't on the list because it isn't clear where that puts me in terms of dual citizenship.

    • A child born to Egyptian parents is considered a citizen under Egyptian law, but you're suppose to inform the government within a year of your intention to retain your citizenship if acquire citizenship but you want to live oversease and keep it. As a baby I certainly didn't do that.

    • For entry into the US it's US law that matters. It isn't clear if they would consider me to have dual nationality. I have traveled previously to the US on an Australian passport and have not declared allegiance to a country I spent maybe 3 months in on holiday over the first 8 years of my life.

    For my family booking tickets to the US would be something we'd have to save up for years to do. Why the hell would someone like me take the risk of having that flushed away, or worse being detained, by holidaying in the US. Damn shame because it now seems certain I'll never get to see their national parks, Grand Canyon etc. I'm glad I went and saw the Kennedy Space Center in my 20s. This willingness to introduce changes without notice to flex his muscles means I'll never go again as a tourist.

    • 2ndeffort on 30/01/2017 - 12:18

      I'm heading over there in a fortnight, checked the ESTA website last night, the visa waiver I applied for back in November is showing as all OK!

    • McFly on 30/01/2017 - 13:06

      I was born here, making me an Australian citizen
      Egypt isn't on the list
      Australian passport

      You've said it all yourself. (If Egypt want to consider you a citizen good luck to them - I doubt anyone else (except maybe Arab countries) would recognise that.)

      I'll never go again as a tourist.

      Never???

      • syousef on 30/01/2017 - 13:15

        One signature of his pen and I'd be out on my backside or detained in a cell. Why on earth would I spend my money with a risk like that hanging around. Egyptians were among the 9/11 terrorists, and as it is I find I get selected for "random" searches. (So far nothing too invasive thankfully - just bag searches…but I don't travel much). Never mind the fact that the US has one of the highest gun crime rates - you wouldn't want to stop one of them. Middle Eastern all bad m'kay?

        And as for never. Okay maybe if things did a 180 degree about face in terms of their government.

  • jmi on 30/01/2017 - 11:53
    +5

    Things to keep in mind:

    The UN refugee program is very heavily vetted. Refugees don't get to choose where they are relocated. And not a single refugee in the USA has so far been responsible for any terrorist attack from those banned countries in the last 40 years.

    The UN refugee program is one of the most humanitarian thing left on this planet and I am glad it still exists. If you disagree and want to defend your stand with reasons whatsoever, that is fine with me. It only proves that you never really were on board with the humanitarian program to begin with.

    What Trump has done is to bring out peoples' closeted xenophobia, self-serving attitudes and lack of compassion out in the open. He preys and feeds on fear and ignorance. Your opinion (positive or negative) of him and his policies is a direct reflection of what you truly are.

    PS: I don't really care if I get negged.

    • dealman on 30/01/2017 - 12:08

      And not a single refugee in the USA has so far been responsible for any terrorist attack

      You could fill books here in Australia , writing about the crime committed by refugees from unsuitable countries.

      • syousef on 30/01/2017 - 13:23
        +7

        Yeah. There were boatloads of them coming in as early as 1788!!!

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