So someone has been leaving shopping trolleys on my street. The other night I saw some neighbours pushing a trolley up to their house and then dumping it just outside on council property.
I didn't take photos and I'm not sure the best way to proceed to dob in these butt holes.
What do ozbargainers recommend I do?
location: innerwest nsw
Guerrilla options:
Move it to their front yard every time.
Or tell the supermarket where the guy lives.
Or make a label for the poor guy and put it on the trolley. "John's trolley, don't touch! Please return to 1 Povvo Lane if found"
But, yes, FIRST… check if there's a coin in the slot.
Ive seen supermarkets chain together 5-6 diff stores trolleys into 1 big lazy arse line. Most DGAF.
Well as a home owner this is my life now :)
Agreed, this is the kind of little annoyance that makes your neighbourhood feel just a little bit shit.
Your right next come the beggers and junkies
That's a sad life really, maybe start your own vigilante squad with the other like minded home owners.
Start by putting up posters, wait hold that thought. That might also bug you.
Trust me mate nothing sad about caring about the vanity of your home and neighbourhood. The only thing bugging me now is your attitude, by any chance are you a trolley thief?
@mobius: you got me I'm the guy leaving trollies in your neighbourhood and then waiting for you to post it on Ozb
@mobius: If they don't own an asset that goes up and down depending on the neighbourhood around it they don't get it.
@Diji1: oh poor you thing you own a home, how sad. you assume they don't know but in reality its not as important as the little guy you are attacking who obviously struggles to get their shopping home. get the poor people to feel sorry for you because you are rich enough to own a home. you are the one who needs the perspective
@kima:
You jealous of those who work hard to achieve home owenership?
Many people will work more than one job to be able to do so.
Yes some people are unwell physically and mentally - we all need to contribute to help them; not the lazy.
He is trying to get a life. One without a bunch of trolleys outside his house.
Call the supermarket manager, those trolleys are expensive. I'm sure they'll care.
this.
I worked in a supermarket for a few years. They'll likely pass it on to the tractor guy directly to pick it up, but it's going to get annoying calling every week and not going to solve the problem long term.
I have no long term solution though. Where I worked (Hornsby), all the apartments nearby were littered with trolleys. The store couldn't do much to stop people taking them from the Westfield.
Stand at vigil near the trolley, tut-tutting and shaking your head. When he eventually comes out to check his mailbox or whatever, eyeball him. Call out "We know it was you!"
surprised nobody said 'bikies' yet….
TROLLIKIES
people across the road from me does this all the time. i dont feel any urge to post on the internet and complain and moan about it.
I recommend you get over it.
I can't get over it! I'm a home owner who's interested in keeping my property value.
Can I ask what council rates you're paying at the dump?
What? If the car is covered, why would the neighbour care? Why does it matter if it was in a different country?
@Axelstrife: I think he understood what you wrote, he's just pointing out that it was rubbish. LMAO TROLOLOL
You rent or live with parents don't you.
Set alarm for 3am. Reposition trolley to spot most inconvenient to them, on its side. After all, they like that sort of thing. If approached, demonstrate sympathy and blame an unknown third party.
Yep - bonus points for standing it on its handle, leaning on their front door. Then film their surprise when they open their front door next morning!
sounds like your neighbour is troll(ey)ing
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how does this deserve a neg???
Collect the trolleys, clean them and once you have enough, sell them to your local supermarket as reconditioned
Are you Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys?
This is the retailer's fault. Coles and wow needs to get their crap together and manage their property better. Or copy aldi and fix a coin lock on the handle.
Victim blaming much?
Some places do have trolleys with wheel locks, yeah, but this is clearly the fault of the people doing the stealing…
If I throw a rock through your window is it your fault for not having a rock-proof steel mesh in front of your windows?!
who do you think pays for the 10c per bottle when you recycle it.
They were dragged kicking and screaming to pay that and wouldn't if they weren't forced by legislation.
I think you're onto something here.
Correct answer. I have never seen an Aldi trolley away from its location
Bike lock the trolleys to their letter box or something, create a trolley centipede.
I would train the trolleys to fight back
God… who cares.
everyone commenting, so quite a few people including you and me :)
mate, if you can afford to buy in the inner west of Sydney then some dumped trolleys is going to do nothing for the increase in house value that will naturally come from you having been fortunate enough to buy in one of the hottest property markets in the world.
im in a less fashionable neighbourhood in melbourne (northcote, still pretty expensive) and there are a few trolleys dumped around my street. sometimes if im feeling in a community minded mood i push them back to the supermarket (about 800m away). otherwise they seem to slowly come and go.
I live near a Coles and last year I caught a woman who decided to walk her trolley to her car, then get in a prepare start to drive off. It was out the front of my house, so I walked around to the driver's side window, tapped on the glass and humiliated her in front of her teenage child by telling her she couldn't just drive off an leave a trolley on the nature strip. Despite her car being halfway out of the spot, she insisted that she was going to return it. So I waited till she re parked her car, then took a plot of her number plate in front of her, and waited till she returned the trolley to the supermarket. It felt good.
can't wait to hear your road rage story
Well done for talking to that woman and her small child. Now perhaps you can talk to Mr man about the dog shit?
So she didn't deserve it?
Like I said, well done, it's good to hear you doing that. I just wondered if you used the same method with the guy and the dog?
@bargainslut: I couldn't think of anything good at the time, so I went with an anagram. It's pretty lame. And now I realise I can only change it once every 12 months.
@bargainslut: Well done on calling Thorton out on being a tough guy to a woman and her kid and being a pansy when coming up against a man and a dog. can't wait to have this comment reported
The "small child" was a teenager.
Ah yes, I see that now, I'd give 2 up votes if I were allowed.
For the record PJC what are the dimensions of the teenager? Were they in an aggressive mood? Do you have any other details other than the fact they were between 13-19 years of age?
Who are your heroes angel?
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@bargainslut: For the record bargainslut, thorton82 referred to a woman and "her teenage child" without mentioning the latter's magnitude or composure. Absence of other details did not deter you writing about "her small child". Unlike yourself, I cannot access more details than were provided.
@PJC: OK, thank you for the long winded reply, the record is above for all. Try not to get so upset.
Who are your heroes?
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Maybe consider meditating angel.
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Ah internet, where would we be without you?
The people who don't care are clearly the same people who would do it themselves or dump other rubbish etc.
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It's the done thing in my street. Trolley man comes by and gets them every day. Doesn't seem to be frowned on at all.
The supermarket actually employs staff who collect trolley around the neigbourhood same as in the carpark. Maybe your neigbours grew up on my street where it's normal.
Every single person does it (except lazy driver me) and its a tidy owner occupied neigbourhood, every yard landscaped and perfect every day.
As we can see from the comments, certain people will deem it acceptable. This is because they see other people doing it.
Eventually it grows out of control and the supermarket has to employ somebody to retrieve them which in turn leads to people believing that they are within their rights to do it. Eventually you become the odd one out if you don't take advantage.
The council employ people to pick up dog excrement and remove gum / graffiti. It doesn't mean that you should do it.
Shopping in pyjamas is perfectly legal but is usually frowned upon in society. However it happens in some estates and these people probably believe it happens everywhere. Everybody has their own norm based on past experiences.
ps: Not having a go at anybody in particular so need to take it personally…
I think people find it normal because they use their heads, not because they are sheep. I think people getting angry about things poor people do (not that only poor people do this) is a good example of seeing someone else doing it then thinking is normal. This is particularly apparent when politicians are shoving the idea that poor people are this countries problem, down our throats every time they want to pass a bill or draw attention away from the poor job they are doing.
Doesn't matter if you're poor or rich, theft is theft and it's NOT normal or ok.
I don't see it that way, more a matter of matching your business to your customers needs. Just part of the business model, examples follow.
Home delivery: Cost = Picker goes around packing the bags, employ delivery driver , supply fuel and refrigerated truck.
$10 contributed by customer to cost.
In store shopper with car: Cost = Supply and maintenance of car park (gotta be at least $10K a week), dudes on foot collecting trolleys from car park
In store shopper with no Car: Cost = Dude with tractor and trolley trailer (that is also used in car park)drives around nearby streets and picks up trolleys where they are left visible and on curb beside peoples driveways. (Maybe $1.5K a week)
The 3rd option is probably gonna be cheaper, as long as it is a common practice.
In my neigbourhood I'm sure this happens because the supermarket facilitates it and I expect that is done as a business decision. Carpark is often full and they would appreciate their foot traffic.
Here's a question, if you shop in a supermarket at Westfield's is it unreasonable to keep the trolley while you continue to shop throughout the centre or even at shops next door, I wouldn't call that theft but it's really the same thing, keeping the trolley longer as a matter of convenience?
What if you've parked on the street because the carpark was full, would using the trolley to get to your car be theft, if not then why would it be if someone were going to the house you parked outside of?
And nothing wrong with shopping in Pyjamas, live and let live, it's no different to dagy hipsters being seen in public. There are more urgent things to apply standards and outrage to these days. Let's go back to when compulsive lying wasn't considered a valuble lifeskill.
Truely I don't think it's theft and certainly not dog poop.
Same thing in my street, looks normal to me
Having lived in the Burwood/Strathfield area, I just cannot see what the fuss is about. I see it happen all the time; and at night there are trolley collection guys who collect all the trolleys parked on the sidewalks.
After moving to Rhodes, I don't see abandoned trolleys anymore. Reason being, all trolleys at both Woollies and Coles have wheel-locks.
On a side note, I noticed that in Melbourne, there are explicit signs around the trolley pickup areas warning customers that taking trolleys is theft and there are fines. In most suburbs in NSW that I've lived in/visited, I'm yet to see such a sign. Make of this what you will. :)
Lastly, for folks looking to take pot-shots at me, I'm too lazy to take a trolley. I drive to the supermarket (that is about 1k away). :P
Ditto on the driving. I actually feel guilty for not walking the trolley home like everyone else.
Here's a question for the people outraged by the trolley walkers.
Would you prefer everyone returned to walking around with those old school personal wheeled shopping trolleys? Really :-)? Case closed .
People aren't outraged by trolley walkers, it's the trolley dumpers.
And what old school trolleys do you mean?
back in the old days all the housewifes used these to do the daily grocery rounds.
http://goodseller.en.made-in-china.com/product/SvYJWEbMvQrp/…
I don't think trading the eyesore of the odd trolley on the street for the eyesore of people dragging these around again is worth it. The ones I remember were probably a bit bigger.
@tonka: I suspected that was what you meant. To be quite honest, I don't understand your objection if they're in use and not abandoned on the street or in parks like shopping trolleys.
Trolley dumping (like any kind of dumping) affects the look and feel of a neighbourhood. People walking around with those old bag trolleys, while maybe a crime against fashion, doesn't affect me at all (in the same way that people carrying shopping bags home wouldn't affect me). It's vastly preferable to the dumping of shopping trolleys.
@3 Hyenas:
They're a pretty nifty bag really.
Thing is everywhere you go now you are tripping over people, my motivation is selfish really, I don't want to compete with these things for space.
Now people do all their browsing, lunching , haircuts, nails, then go supermarket and trolley it straight home.
With people taking their own trolleys, they will have them with them the whole time, or probably parked around the entrances of the stores they're in.
Use an app called Snap Send Solve, report everything in your area, shit will get done. even trolleys, council will forward it to the relevant bodies.
Didn't trolleys have tracking devices so once outside their zone the wheels lock up and alert the store or something?
Many students do it because of no car. No solution
I was working in a smart apartment in the docklands, fault finding a wall mount pc, there was a trolley inside their apartment on the 21st floor….
http://ausfoodnews.com.au/2012/01/06/australian-shopping-tro…
"The cost of collecting, maintaining and replacing trolleys each year is over $50 million."
That trolley collecting service might seem "free" to you, but they're not volunteers — they come at a cost. And that cost is passed on to the consumer.
It's simple: if you borrow something, you return it. Don't be an a$$hat, no matter how well-intended you're trying to be.
With Australia's long term unemployment rate hovering at 6.2%, jobs creation is what this country needs right now.
Supermarkets don't have to supply trolleys for their customers. They do it because it gets them more business. If you lend your customers big baskets with wheels on them, then they will be wheeled away. Supermarkets know this will happen and they budget for it. It's a cost of doing business (and they can afford it, otherwise they would stop doing it or they would install locking systems)
Then you should open your eyes, there's plenty of twisted logic on this forum. The reality is people steal from supermarkets for a myriad of reasons, sometimes because they literally don't have money to feed themselves, sometimes out of malice or for thrills, and supermarkets plan for this in their budget. I have no empathy for corporations who make their millions in dubious ways. Corporations are not people, and such a crime is not comparable to one against a member of your family. If it was a small business, then I would care. In this case, I care more about the people who want to get their groceries home.
Agree totally, I'm sure they'd love it if everyone walked the trolley they used back into the store, but they won't give up their business to achieve that.
Here's a thought, how much less would people purchase if they had to carry it. Guarantee the Dollars lost would be huge.
…or you know. Do due diligence and do the following:
1. Get wheel-locks on trolleys (something that is ubiquitous in most first world countries).
2. Post placards informing customers that taking trolleys away from the supermarket is theft. The existing trolley collection services mislead many into actually thinking that this is a courtesy service provided by the supermarkets.
3. Give the option to pay a nominal cost to take the trolley away from the supermarket and then get it collected from your premises.
OK , that would be 0.05 of a percent of grocery revenue I think. So quite possibly the sort sales loss they may lose from stopping this practice, plus the loss of jobs for people that collect them.
I'm sure Coles and Wow have factored this into their budget. 15th and 19th biggest retailers in the world.
They borrow things and steal things, maybe they will return them?
In Melbourne, we left the trolley outside our friends, some neighbour complained to police and police turned up and asked us to return back to the supermarket or else pay fine.
My local Coles has some kind of system that locks the trolley's wheels once it reaches the boundaries of the car park.
They should have those everywhere.
wow - fancy - how do they do that?
I lived in the northern Territory not long ago. Its not the poor migrants using them its the local aborigines.