So someone has been leaving shopping trolleys on my street. The other night I saw some neighbours pushing a trolley up to their house and then dumping it just outside on council property.
I didn't take photos and I'm not sure the best way to proceed to dob in these butt holes.
What do ozbargainers recommend I do?
location: innerwest nsw
Tried them a few times I reported it with the app but no one ever turns up!
Same here :(
Same as well, I ended up dumping it on council property, near a park.
Tried them a few times I reported it with the app but no one ever turns up!
Not your problem then… is it? :)
It is if they have to stare at a pile of shopping trolleys every time they enter and exit their street.
I don't know about you, but I respect my neighbourhood and prefer it doesn't look like the a ghetto.
@slimdavy5: because they are Selfish - lacking consideration for other people; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.
More like shorthand for Ozbargainers can be complete jerks. Anonymous down-voting the day after going on and on about RUOK day. WTF do you think this nonsense does for a person's self worth. If you don't like what was said have the decency to say as much and put your name to it.
Downvote ME all you like.
i did that they never Turn up we had over 60 Trolley in unit block i call store manager at woolworth and coles they came out and got them
No point worrying, they only take 100,000 years to biodegrade:)
Good job.
You know that your life is pathetic if you ever stoop this low.
I feel guilty on the odd occasion that I cannot find a trolley park in the car park.
The shame of pushing a trolley up my own road and dumping it would probably kill me.
Perhaps they require public shaming (after all they don't mind people seeing). A photo and posters in the street would be sufficient.
Yeah…way to generalise there dogboy. People live in public housing for all sorts of reasons ranging from being left with nothing in bad break-ups to caring for elderly or profoundly disabled relatives. I live in public housing because I can't work due to having to care for my profoundly disabled wheelchair bound and slowly dying son. My upstairs neighbour is a woman from interstate who left a bad relationship with her 10 year old son. My next door neighbour is a one legged elderly lady whose husband just died and has no family and retired before superannuation. In the block of flats next door there is a working class man who is full time carer for his elderly mum, he keeps a communal garden and constantly gives away veges. There is a another working class man who fosters a teenage boy with autism and so on. Sure there have been some dropkicks living here but no more than when I lived in any other suburban neighnourhood. Judgemental generalisations just make you look less than able to understand the complexities of this world.
Thank you for the reality check.
Judgemental generalisations just make you look less than able to understand the complexities of this world.
@bigpallooka - This is so true. My entire day yesterday was a downer because bad people say and do bad things. We all have on a journey with different challenges !
@dogboy: Maybe your friend is just judgemental or prefers to share the ugly stories or as I am in a position to confirm, they only deal with their clients when there is actually a problem. Either way you are making second hand judgements which is a reflection on you not the people you are judging.
@dogboy: no actually its not, the "dropkick losers" are in the minority and usually end up in prison anyway, most residents is social housing are decent people.
My friend works in public housing so I am pretty familiar with the types of people she has to deal with
Your friend is familiar not you. She shares her pessimistic views with you and you accept that.
Your friend wouldn't see most of the decent tenants because they pay their rent and don't cause trouble - and even if they make complaints about repairs and trouble neighbors its your friend who would just ignore them anyway.
@dogboy:
I'd disagree. I think it's the opposite. You'll find the majority are upstanding citizens and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from other houses. We've got a bunch in my neighbourhood. There is only one dodgy family. The rest are immaculate, some are even more looked after than our house and we own. The lady across the road has a heart condition, which is limiting her ability to work and care for her child. I forget the name of the site now but I accessed it through my works subscription, it allows you to access database of who owns the property and the history of the property (used for land resumptions). I queried the database to list all properties owned by government. There were literally dozens of houses within a few k radius around my house. There is no way I could have guessed they were housing commission. It completely changed my perspective on it and I'd have no problem living next to them. In this case I am actually living next to 3. One behind (rear fence), one across the road and one a couple of doors down.
Some people need public housing to get back up in life, it is difficult but many prefer to not depend on handouts if they can ofcourse.
Not everyone can afford a car. When I was a small boy my mother had no other way to get the groceries home. Luckily there were trolley collection people who would drive around so no harm no foul.
She scraped every penny so I could succeed and live a super comfortable life now. You shouldn't look down on other people and call them pathetic without walking a mile in their shoes mate
I cannot comment on previous eras but in 2016 there is no excuse.
The supermarket provides the trolley for use within its own grounds.
Taking it home is effectively theft.
Return it yourself if you really need to use one. Or buy something yourself to help you transport it. Or do multiple trips.
There is no excuse for taking what isn't yours (and is very expensive) and just dumping it somewhere.
I just gave you a free pass for a previous era. There is no excuse for it in 2016.
So I can steal a trolley or something else from a shop because other people smoke. Get over yourself.
You wouldnt take the trolley in the car so what gives you the right to wheel it a mile up the road?
Do what the elderly do and buy a bag on wheels to do your shopping if you need assistance. There is no shame in that.
There should be shame in taking others property unlawfully (whether that is a person or a company)
People are making the point that it is wrong.
Does that mean I cannot moan about other trivial things like people farting in a lift or burping in your face. ..
@sagiballs:
There is no excuse for taking a trolley that doesn't belong to you in 2016 and dumping it. Simple as that.
And there is no need to call me an (profanity) or similar just because I think it is a bogan thing to do.
@sagiballs: >I pay thousands of dollars in taxes so:
-Drink drivers can have life saving operations and recover in ICU
-Smokers can have 6 hospital admissions a year for self inflicted stupidity
-Obese people can get triple bypass surgery and not die from their cardiac disease
You whine about walking a mile in your mothers poor shoes, then you proceed to whinge about other minorities. Get a clue?
@lonix: Lol. Im on the dole mate, I see the most marginalised people you could think of. Get off your (profanity) high horse.
@sagiballs: There was a forum topic about what people don't like about OzBargain.
What I like most about it is when self entitled people endlessly rant and get on their high horse, and then subsequently find through massive downvote counts that society deems their opinions to be repulsive.
I think you like many other people have missed the point entirely.
The point isn't look at these other people who trash themselves…
The point is people are people - and you should look after them and treat them kindly. Not because it's what they deserve for what they have put in on economic terms, but because it is the decent thing to do.
And certainly not to call them pathetic and joke about taking photos of them like the poster I responded to. Undoubtedly they already feel crap about what they have to do. And I note that the person I responded quickly shifted to a legalist approach and stopped talking crap about people since I called him out for being a (profanity).
More amusingly he said I shouldn't call him an a$$hole for making him feel bad about his opinion. But calling other people pathetic is apparently ok. Such irony.
Alas, I fear for many people's comprehension skills.
Or they just don't like poor people.
Whatever. Everyone is entitled to surround themselves with people they want to be like.
Good day sir! I have packing to do
They are pathetic, if they can walk their shopping home in a trolley, they can walk their ass back to the shops with the trolley.
You know, when I graduated we didn't get to read the Hippocratic oath. I still remember feeling jipped
But then, my Ancient Greek isn't very good ;)
@smpantsonfire:
That's what I used to do in my Uni days. Walk home with the full trolley in the evening. Leave the trolley in unused car parking spot we had under the block of units. Then, the next morning, walk the empty shopping trolley back to the shops and return it.
Not that there was a frequent need for that. It was easier to just visit the supermarket every other day and carry home the small amount of shopping more frequently.
@sagiballs:
Yeah we get it. You're a dicktor who pays taxes… How upstanding. The air must get cold up there.
Where do you practise so I know not to bring my children there lest you judge them for not paying enough taxes to be worthy of your service.
Palm, meet face.
I'm not embarrassed to say I pushed a trolley as a child. I am however embarrassed about your comprehension skills.
You actually drew the worst, stupidest conclusion possible.
I give up. The stupidity is too strong
@smashed:
I can confirm that taking a trolley all the way home is most definitely bogan behaviour.
Source: Was a total bogan when I was younger and used to take the trolley all the way home and then dump it.
@sagiballs: its just sad that you have compassion for the small people when they only care about themselves. at the end of the day its them that will come to you for that surgery, but they can't see past their own nose. as long as they have a job and a healthy body and happy family - then there is no excuse for anyone else not too.
Whilst I do agree with personal responsibility, do remember though that turning a blind eye to the poor still has implications for the rich(er).
There are lots of places that put the individual above the collective (case in point the poor in the USA, or anywhere in the third world). Crime is rife. It would be a horrible place to live.
It is in our collective best interests to always be raising the standard of living for all, where possible. That promotes stability - so you can take your kids to the park and not worry about getting rolled.
Think about things like giving IV drug users clean needles so they (hopefully) don't pass on hepatitis C. We shouldn't "have to", but the cost to society is ultimately less than having many more people to treat with hep C.
My 2c
@sagiballs: the small people include these people sitting there complaining to you who have no compassion for anyone else and then when they end up losing their job or health then their opinion will change because they can't see past their own nose.
i am sure you see people in the worst positions, they don't enjoy being miserable and unhealthy and they don't want to be there. these people here expect them to be better, how dare they not be better, i have a job so there is no excuse why you don't get one too. people think mental illness is a choice, you can just switch it off when you choose - aslong as they are not the ones that have it
Word.
I have certainly seen people at their worst. And I'd rather be building them up than tearing them down 👌
You never know when it's your turn to fall
Smokers can have 6 hospital admissions a year for self inflicted stupidity
I think you should look up how much smokers really contribute to the total tax revenue through cigarette tax on each packet.
This tax on cigarettes is in addition to the normal income tax.
So don't start to think you're doing smokers any favours… because it's actually the other way around!
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/an-australian-senator-has-…
I think it's a lot more complicated than that bud.
And I still can't believe that out of all of that I have written, that is the note that resonates with you.
Shows just how selfish a lot of people are
@sagiballs:
Where in the original post was it mentioned that the people dumping the trolley were poor or living in a poor neighbourhood,you complain about the lack of everyone's comprehension skills but don't seem to be able to comprehend that you have made a lot of assumptions based on no facts
Let me give you an example of inequity and taking what isn't yours.
I pay thousands of dollars in taxes so:
the 3 day old premature infant who gets flown by jet at a cost of $10000 for life saving cardiac surgery interstate.
Yeah you're half right… I drew the worst conclusion possible, along with 59 other people here. My comprehension skills are fine. I get your point:
you should look after them and treat them kindly.
But
Not because it's what they deserve for what they have put in on economic terms…
Sounds like you do the right thing begrudgingly.
@bobbified: Then take into account the burdon they don't put on the taxpayer through drawing a pension into advanced old age and the cost of constant healthcare and community care that goes with old age.
Shows just how selfish a lot of people are
I'm not the one sitting here complaining about the possibility of my taxes going towards the healthcare of smokers.
Ps if I was going to walk a mile in her shoes I would leave the trolley behind as I have no right to take it and buy one of these:http://m.ikea.com/au/en/catalog/products/art/20282334/
The correct thing would be to go back and return the trolley after she was done with it. That's what my family did.
Also bought our own trolley.
'Luckily there were trolley collection people who would drive around so no harm no foul'
Umm yes there was. Those trolley people shouldn't have to drive around and collect trolleys.
Don't have a issue with you taking the trolley home if you didn't have a car… but tossing on the street for someone else to collect is just pure lazy.
I would be curious to know how many people have been charged with theft for pushing a trolley out of the car park. I wonder if the reason they aren't is because it might be hard to prosecute (they haven't kept it or sold it on to someone else) or maybe retailers don't want to be so confrontational with their customers. Maybe the retailers aren't making it such a big legal issue because it just isn't. Of course it might be that they just consider it part of the cost of doing business (the cost of collecting them and lost ones). I can understand people objecting to an increase in the cost of their groceries because of lost trolleys and collecting them. It would embarrass me to do it but I'm not sure I have the energy to be condemning anyone who does as a thief and bogan.
Lol I used to do this when I was 20 and needed to get a carton of beer home. But I took it back the next day
And by "the odd occasion that I cannot find a trolley park in the car park" you mean you the times you can't be bothered taking it back where it belongs because it might be an extra 100m out of your way.
Quick! Call the AFP!
It's so annoying every week there's a trolley left, council cleans it up and then another one is there.
Well, if it's every week, it should not be that hard to take a video next time.
Yeah I've been watching but yet to catch em again in the act.
Wildlife camera with movement sensors :-)
Whats worst is soon people start using the that trolley as a dump bin.
What do ozbargainers recommend I do?
First thing an OzBargainer would do is to see if there is a coin in the slot.
Yeah, this is a topic more suite to Whirlpool.
I have been know to push a trolley all the way back to the shops for $1…
There was a similar thread which may give you some ideas… https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/258682
I actually remember having this problem when I still lived at home… my Mother knew that the trolley-thief neighbours were renting and informed the real estate agent. Their lease didn't get extended.
I like your compassion towards migrants, but they need to learn them rulez.
yeah gramps should turn around and push the trolley back to the store after getting their shopping home.
do you also take others stuff just because it's convenient for you?
and let's say it was the very naive scenario you described - why not take it back next trip? Even if there was a reason, it's no excuse.
That same logic can be applied to other forms of theft too.
for example "I stole that TV, keeps police and store security in a job!"
See how dumb that sounds? No difference to what you're saying.
Also if you're so concerned they're underpaying their staff stop shopping there and go to a local place and accept the price premium.. but I bet someone who steals trolleys isn't really willing to do that.
Yeah they are selling their trolley on the black market or dismantling it for scrap.
No they are actually not doing that.. and I'm actually the opposite of concerned about it. I really feel no obligation to defend the supermarket in any way.
It's more concerning that people who are probably living in gentrified slums now readily bitch about the behaviour of probably long term residents.
and piss off accusing me of taking trolleys.
In Australia if you're poor you are scum.
Finally, someone said it ;-)
I thought it was super Australian to revel in being poor and scummy - still doing the same shit on Australia day (just in the park, not on a yacht).
As an OzBargainer, I would go to http://trolleytracker.com.au/ and report it everytime they do it. You could win $1000 per month!