Dropped into the Australia Post office off Rundle Mall today and found this little beauty. At least two more left after I bought one. Tempting to buy another but figured another ozb local might need it more.
Not sure if this is the only store at this price but sign didn't show it as a special price.
This one -https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/217285
Yep
Your doing something wrong if you go through that many.
I believe you're doing something wrong.
Your correction was unjustified but You're correct?
@MMM: I thought it wasn't a correction. You can never have too much hard drives, backups are important. The more the better, as files are way larger these days with games and movies.
@syousef: hahaha, love to butcher the queens english its just being Australian, also love Seagate have many 4TB that are years old no problems here.
I follow the MR BOAM strategy - Multiple redundant backups, one at mum's, especially for the photos.
I believe You're being an ass.
Go through means fill not kill a lot of drives between photography and keeping lots of the freeware, various Linux and BSD ISOs, downloaded free lecture videos and a whole lot more. Even have astronomy catalogs that fill up whole small hard drives.
The seagate drives simply ran too hot. So did a couple of the WD drives but Seagate was a much worse offender. A hot drive doesn't last long. But a bunch - maybe 4 or 5 of newer my seagate drives - died in the span of about 3 years and I ended up running an external fan to cool them.
Most of my 10 year old 200GB and 320GB drives are now dead or have SMART errors but I think I've lost 1 WD treating it no differently.
Aside from the whole "you're" vs "your" thing what qualifies you to tell me I'm doing something wrong when you know nothing about me? That not terribly S.M.A.R.T.
"till they started dropping like flies"
^that's what i was referring to in my comment.
I have a bunch of all different branded Hard drives and currently my WD 3TB and my Segate 1TB are matched for temperature.
To answer that last part i know you either have terrible luck with hard drives or you mistreat them and you have a bigger problem with incorrect grammar then i, That's what i know about you.
What qualifies me? nothing at all except ive yet to have a single HDD fail in my life.
You're just plain rude and you're either trolling or have no social skills. Again you have no idea who I am or what I do with the disks. But if it makes you sleep better at night go ahead and tell yourself and me that I'm doing something wrong with JUST the Seagate drives that I'm not doing wrong with any other brand. I'll just roll my eyes and ignore you as I should.
The 3TB Seagates have known heat issues. If you copy one drive to another you better cool them or you'll end up with a dead drive sooner or later.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&e…
Sooo… essentially everyone has a different experience…..
Thanks for the abundance of comments - diversity in input is appreciated, but suggest try not to make or take it personal :)
Well then you must be a God and I must be a moron right? You can tell that with no idea how we both use them, which exact models etc. etc.
I bow to your prowess /sarcasm.
No necessarily.
Seagate got a bad name for some of their 1.5TB and later an extremely flaky 3TB drive which was notorious for failing
Online backup server company Backblaze release data on their drive failures each year.
From Backblaze
. 80% of the hard drives we deploy will function at least 4 years. As of March 31, 2015, just 10% of the Seagate 3TB drives deployed in 2012 are still in service. This is the story of the 4,345 Seagate 3TB drives that are no longer in service.
2014 drive failure chart: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bl…
The backblaze reports are excellent.
These drives should be the ST4000DM000 which are significantly more reliable than the 3TB, that's why I went for 4 TB back then.
As a general rule Seagate are not the most reliable, but in a NAS with redundancy, at this price and the 4GB, if it's a ST4000DM000 your laughing.
Pretty much.
A dying drive is an inconvenience. What I'm most concerned about is warranty length and turn around time.
Any idea whether or not removing the drive from the caddy voids the warranty?
My 3TB Seagate Expansion just died the other night and lost a bunch of data.. :(
Not the end of the world. but still.. Need another one and hope the newer Seagates arent as bad.
@andyD101: If you're careful when cracking it open, you should be able to put it back into enclosure before making a warranty claim.
Drive failure is inevitable and far from uncommon. Most desktop consumer drives have a MTBF of 600 thousand hours (plus or minus 200k). What that means is if 600k drives are shipped, one will fail every hour.
The only way to protect your data is to have multiple copies and ideally each solution is protected from single points of failure.
As shitty as it sounds, if you lost data because of a dead drive then you can only blame yourself.
I once lost a bunch of data. A drive died. When i went to restore it from backup I discovered my backup drive had integrity issues and a lot of the data had silently corrupted over time. Totally gut wrenching.
Redundancy > Reliability
I have so many Seagate drives especially the oldest one that is 8.4 GB (gasps) from around 15 years ago and guess what they are still going strong. Infact I just put win7 ISO onto the.
I go through so many drives because they keep getting full lol. I bought 10 of those in the deal over the years. served me well.
I experienced the opposite. Had 2 seagates over 4 years old and still working Perfectly. I have 4 WD's and all 4 WD's have died. 2 of the WD's died within 6 months. I bought a new $50 casing that allows hotswapping thinking maybe the problem was loose connector pins and It didn't work.
I have 4 of these in my nas, case opens easily. Mine have been running for years. Will leave these for someone more deserving, excellent price.
Are they SMR drives?
Not for me, I have not heard of the 4GB's using SMR, although from people using SMR drives they work well.
Mine are 3 x ST4000DM000 and 1 x ST4000DM001 in a budget netgear 104 nas (ozbargain)
Similar specs, but ST4000DM000 is preferred as it has he higher max operating temperature.
All of these consumer drives require good ventilation or they get hot and die.
By chance, the ST4000DM000 is the only Seagate 4 GB drive approved by NetApp (at the time anyway).
Certainly not as good as a proper NAS drive, but excellent value, my NAS is the bottleneck.
Thanks they are fast drives, I'll definitely grab one if available at my local PO.
Don't forget to do a split payment if you have a ING/Me bank card with 2/5% cashback…
How do you split payment? I have a ING and would love to get another 2% off!
When paying, just ask if you can split payment, ~$98 on ING & and put the rest on another (in the past ING complained about using their card multiple times for same purchase).
For refence, Aldi only allow you to split with cash so you need enough to get it under $100!
At masters, I've split over 3 cards.
This all assume they have paywave.
I have one hooked up to my Router I can't get better then 2mb/s. Is there a decent Wireless HDD?
What speed do you get hooked up to a PC? I'm guessing your router is the issue. Or an incompatibility.
To the pc it's 30-40mb/s. It's going through a iibudi lite thing.
I might try with a 32gb USB 3, synch speeds are still over 100mb/s (the other laptop is syncing at over 500mb/s)
This is over wireless?
Actual transfer rates will fluctuate and are generally much lower than the connection rate reported by the adapter. Factors influencing include interference and congested channel etc.
Best to plug direct using cat5e/6 cable during file transfer ops.
you need a better router to get better speed, and even the best of the best won't be able to catch up with HDD write speed, router is the bottleneck, not HDD
Definitely your router causing the issues there - they just aren't designed for this. I'm using an old WD MyNet for something similar and it rarely exceeds 10MB/s. If you want to get it going any faster than this, you'll need a dedicated NAS style device.
My 2TB Seagate Expansion External Hard drive (bought in 2012) just died last week. Few weeks after warranty was expired.
ACL durability?
how would this stack up against the likes of the Western Digital 4TB on sale at JBHIFI for $179? is Seagate an alright brand vs WD?
Brand wise WD is slightly better (Seagate had some disasters few years ago and in tech that's like several generations ago), but not $30 better IMO.
Please stop with the WD is slightly better. 2 WD's I've owned failed within 6 months. I have 2 seagates that I've been using for 4 years and still working. The only reason why i bought the WD's in the first place was because people like you kept saying how much better they are than seagates and 2 drives didn't last me 6 months. Please stop saying they are better. Instead say YMMV
haha yeh my thinking is theres always a bunch of noobs that abuse drives and have bad luck - a few years ago WD had bad press so they were all on the seagate bandwagon.
Now seagate has bad press and they all on the WD bandwagon -
in a few years these same noobs will be complaining about WD again and back on the seagate bandwagon and so the cycle goes.
Only thing I store on my Seagate drives are windows temporary files and swap files.. For everything else it's too unreliable. Gotta really hand it to Seagate for making my life hell… I had a Seagate drive die… luckily I had a backup drive, also Seagate brand… Before I had a chance to restore the data, the backup drive died as well.. It was from the same batch.. Probably a dud.. Could not believe the chance % of two Seagate drives dying within weeks of each other. I also had WD and Hitachi on the same machine and they had no issues.
What will you do when a WD or Hitachi fails? I mean, who will you turn to?
I've had them all fail on me so now I just memorise everything.
That was perfect. I laughed so hard I think I cracked a rib.
If this were reddit I'd give you gold sir
There's one available at Melborne GPO right now if anyone wants to buy it.
seagate = crap
sorry no wonder why it's so cheap
Thanks OP, just picked 1 up at Adelaide GPO on King William Street. Still 1 left in stock if anyone else is interested.
Cheers might see if they have one there, is it actually priced at $149 in store?
It certainly is :-)
Cheers got the last one from adelaide cbd
I was passing by Parramatta Post office this afternoon and thought better hava a look. Got the last one! thanks OP.
I go through a lot of drives. Seagate was my brand of choice, till they started dropping like flies. For the last couple of years I've gone WD and had much better luck. YMMV as they say. I just spent $179 on the 4TB WD at JBHiFi and don't regret it seeing this. $30 just ain't worth the time.