Not yet released in Australia.
New Blackberry 9700 Bold 2 Onyx
Unlocked Mobile Phone PDA
RRP: $1,100.00
Price: $699.00
Blackberry 9700 Bold 2 Onyx Unlocked Mobile Phone PDA $699 + Shipping
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The picture shows a T-Mobile logo, so I don't think it's the official Australian version. Can someone please clarify this? Thanks.
Well in that case I don't see this as a bargain. You can get it for approx $650AUD shipped via express courier from the uk. See clove.co.uk or handtec.co.uk both reputable UK companies.
damn, now i felt being ripped off!
Is this the official Australian version?
"Not yet released in Australia!" pretty much says it all
well it say that it hasn't' been released in Australia therefore would be a import model from elsewhere
pretty sweet deal! i just purchased 1
No details on supported frequencies.
No point saying works with any GSM carrier like Telstra/Optus/Vodaphone etc. Who buys a smartphone to use on GSM?
Needs supported WCDMA/UMTS frequencies.
- UMTS: 2100/1900/850/800 MHz (Bands 1,2,5/6), 2100/1700/900 MHz (Bands 1,4,8)
- GSM: 1900/1800/900/850 MHz
There are two versions. One has 2100/1900/850/800 support (will work with Telstra's NextG) and the other 2100/1700/900 MHz support (Optus uses 900mhz for its non-metro 3g?). T-Mobile uses 1700mhz so if these are the T-Mobile ones they won't work with NextG.
T-Mobile uses 1700mhz so if these are the T-Mobile ones they won’t work with NextG.
Wrong (kind of)
T Mobile uses 1700 and 2100 MHz
If it is a T Mobile phone it will support both frequencies so it will still work on Telstra NextG, just not on the wider 850mhz frequency which is only better if you live in a rural area
If you dont intend leaving the big cities then 2100 is all you need.You can still have a NextG service using a 2100mhz frequency
It doesnt really matter which version of this phone is being sold if you life in a capital city
Both versions support 2100mhz which is used by all carriers in major cities.Both versions support 2100… So when I say T-Mobile uses 1700, that means its the second model. I never said they use only 1700 :|
Telstra uses 2100mhz for their 3G which as you said is in capital cities. The whole point of them using the NextG brand is that it signifies 3G on the 850mhz band. ie NextG = 3G+850 (I have to say telstra did a shocking job of confusing and misinforming people about it (to their advantage). NextG isn't some super special new tech. Its just a different carrier freq)
Anyway, I'm just sick of sellers not providing this VITAL information to customers, and they end up with a phone they can't use. Its especially bad for nokia phones where they have up to 3 versions, and only one of them has 850 band support :(
I agree, this is a joke. Not a bargain
I going to have to say no.
If you want a good phone, the htc HD2 imported for 840$ AUD is better than this phone. There is even the HTC hero imported for 600$ , which once again is better.
Or better yet, motorola driod for 7-800$ AUD when its released in the UK..
But 700 for this.. i think not.. hahahah.
Better yet, the new Nokia N900 is only about A$700 imported.
http://www.celluloco.com/blackberry-9700-bold-2-onyx-base-ca…
Note the same TMobile logo
Supported Frequencies 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100So it will work on NextG, 3, Optus and Vodafone
3 share 2100mhz with Telstra
Optus uses 900 and 2100 so you should get 3G with optus
Vodafone uses 2100 for their 3G service
So you should have no issues with the phone
If you are in a city then 2100 is all you need.
850/900 are used in regional areas as less base stations are needed due to the signal travelling furtherGSM arena
http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_bold_2-2963.phpDepends on whether these are T-Mobile USA or UK stock. USA T-Mobile ones will be the 1700mhz versions which do not support 850.
If you are going to spend $6-700 on a phone, would you not want to buy the version that guarantees you the best coverage from your provider?
Don't trust any of the freq data from GSM Arena. It's never accurate.
UMTS: 2100/1900/850/800 MHz (Bands 1,2,5/6), 2100/1700/900 MHz (Bands 1,4,8) - that is straight from the blackberry website. Theres 2 different models.
I've worked in the mobile phone industry and I know what i'm talking about when it comes to this stuff.
There is NO chipset made that supports all the 3G frequencies at once.
Feel free to ignore my advice and enjoy your $650 brick :)
This is a bargain, the Blackberry 9700 supports all frequencies, 850/2100, and also the links to UK websites doesnt say anything about being unlocked!!! they are locked..this is unlocked
LOL the UK ones are unlocked…
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/2504/blackberry-bold-97…
read it, sim FREE
Still -ve
must be a UK terminology, in australia we talk unlocked or locked :) but in either case, i would rather buy this from australia than get it from UK!
Sim free does not always mean the phone is not locked.
You can still buy a sim free phone locked to a carrier it just means that the phone does not come with a service and you supply your own simdude, im 100% sure they dont mean that :|
iim 100% sure they mean its not locked. Different terminology. Stop being ignorant lol.
And too bad australia wont sell any good phones soon (minus htc hero soon i think), importanting is the next best thing, from the UK thou, and not dodgy people like this who are marking up..
Dodgy product listing with not nearly enough information
"Product not yet released in Australia"… they are saying that as though they've got their hands on australian units and are able to offer it before it's officially released in Australia
Doesn't say where these products were sourced, we can only assume it's T-mobile by having to look at the picture… and who knows, considering how dodgy they are they might've just googled for an image of the bold.
Their attempt is laughable.
Is this the official Australian version?
What 3G bands does it support?
Is warranty supported by RIM Australia?