IBM has dropped the price of the premium version of SPSS.
If anyone can get their paws on a cheaper version please let me know before I pony up the cash.
Would be a shame to spend a lot more on this software than my entire HECS debt.
Thanks :)
SPSS Statistics w/ Concurrent Users and 12 Months Support $62,702
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Translating this for the reader:
"73.1% of statisticians agree or strongly agree (n=134, 95% CI) that it is significantly (p=0.049) cheaper than the median (n=5; 1 pirating outlier removed) price using a one-tailed z-test. Further study is required."
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You just made my night as I am currently working through learning how to use SPSS!
SAS is free
Gets spendy real quick when it's outside of these institution.
lol SAS is far from free
SAS is more expensive than SPSS
Apologies: it's always been for faculty and I assumed students also
What is SPSS?
Statistics program
for dummies
Can I second third and fourth that?
With that price, I've just gained a deeper appreciation for my university. Anyone care to shed any light on how classes are able to afford multiple licenses of this software? I recall well over a hundred of these computers having SPSS installed on them in certain rooms.
Buy 10 licenses get 90 free?
Education licences, they are usually substantially cheaper
http://m.ibm.com/http/www-01.ibm.com/software/analytics/spss…A crap load cheaper… As is the regular version, they charge extra for concurrent users.. Quite frustrating to try to justify!!
They're next to free. They want universities to use the "industry standard" tool so when you get into the workforce, you encourage its use. When you get into a position of power, you continue to buy it because you remember that's what you used (and changing to a new program when you're 15 years out of university may just make you look dumb when you don't know where to find a function…)
Unfortunately, this approach works.
(And SPSS is kind of awesome too and probably deserves its place at this point in time. If you're still with me, check out Tableau too. You'll be a big enough geek to appreciate how quick it is to throw together dashboards and at $1500 for a license, it's a bargain by comparison)
Pretty sure my uni just pirates the program..
This has got to be the most expensive "bargain" I've ever seen posted here! I hope it comes with free postage, free refills or at least a pack of enaloops thrown in.
There was one posted a while ago where one could purchase a tropical island under market value. I think that trumps this deal in terms of being the most expensive.
This, sadly it only lasted a few minutes until it was ripped down for 'insufficient quantity' like more than one OzB user was going to buy it…
There was also one for a Bently…I remember this as I was looking at it when the IT guy came up to install SPSS for me….interesting conversation
got this for free from my uni, saved me $62,702 (very good program actually)
Hey I work at IBM . pm me and let me see what I can do for you
students use piratebay not pay these exorbant rates
instead of advocating stealing software students can check out the SPSS Grad Pack
http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/spss-stats-gradpa…
"The theft-metaphor is problematic in the sense that a key element of stealing is that the one stolen from loses the object, which is not the case in file sharing since it is copied. There is no loss when something is copied, or the loss is radically different from losing something like your bike" -Stefan Larsson, lawyer and socio-legal researcher at Lund University in Sweden.
Not that I am opposed to occasional torrenting, but that is a pretty weak argument.
"Stealing" someone's intellectual property does not mean they physically lose the object as he states, but they have created (or licenced or whatever) a valuable commodity which you are illegally obtaining for free, causing the owner a loss of potential income. I doubt there is a court in the world that would not view this as stealing (or whatever name you want to give it).
It's not 'stealing': not in economic theory; not in case law (e.g. Dowling v. United States, 473 USC 207 [1985], cited below by SrMoure); and not in legislation.
More accurately, in Dowling the US Supreme court held that copied software or other copyrighted merchandise was not "stolen property" for the purposes of Federal laws prohibiting the transport of stolen property across state lines.
The relevant section of the court report runs as follows (discussing the legislative intent of the relevant section - 18 USC s2314):
"The section's language clearly contemplates a physical identity between the items unlawfully obtained and those eventually transported, and hence some prior physical taking of the subject goods. Since the statutorily defined property rights of a copyright holder have a character distinct from the possessory interest of the owner of simple "goods, wares, [or] merchandise," interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud. The infringer of a copyright does not assume physical control over the copyright nor wholly deprive its owner of its use. Infringement implicates a more complex set of property interests than does run-of-the-mill theft, conversion, or fraud."
By the way, infringement of copyright laws is not stealing : Dowling v. Supreme Court United States (1985)
Since you work for IBM, could you please explain the pricing difference for Australia compared to US ?
Maybe students should check their vocabulary before The Pirate Bay. Perhaps omit some made up words they've acquired like exorbant. I believe, and I'm sure the squiggly red line concurs, you intended to say the rates were exorbitant or perhaps even extortionate.
A deal is posted here for over $62,000 and you want to criticise a spelling error from a high school dropout. In the first place you wouldn't have know it wasn't a typo or if I was an immigrant.
If neologisms were taboo, Shake'n'Bake (Shakespeare and/or Bacon) would have had about 5000 fewer words to use - he made shizzle up all the tizzle, yo.
Also, I like the word 'exorbant'. Given the Merriam-Webster includes "absorbant" as a variant spelling of absorbent, 'exorbant' makes me think of something that is the opposite of absorbent… i.e., something that repels liquid.
Terrible idea - not because I'm a respecter of IP law (it's stupid law that stultifies economic growth and technical innovation), but because in order to install software of this level of complexity, you have to lift your system's skirts in ways that are seldom seen outside of a cathouse.
Torrented software of this type (and of OSes and MSOffice Pro) are prime vectors for malware introduction: people who are too smart to click on a PDF in an e-mail, will install a piece of software that requires entry into your system's uterus.
For those who are unsure if is worth it you can get a free trial for 2 weeks…it's a good program but I really hate stats :x
It better be a pretty f-Ing good two weeks to justify ponying up that cash…
was that a distribution pun? If so, ha-HA! :D
There is a 50/50 chance of buying, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that.
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We give it away for free to our students…
Maybe ask your Uni first, they usually have a site license that covers personal PCs
why u need spss personally?
its the best way to work out the savings on OZB in an aggregated manner.
If you order through the US site it's 55k. The software is simply a download so you save 12k. I don't need it at the moment but I'm just gonna grab it just in case
Just make sure you use an Alaska address to avoid the sales tax.
Roland from Nigeria said he will save you 90% of what IBM charges, so long you pay via Western Union. And he promises it comes with a bride as a bonus.
Roland!
Hey, if you speak to him, tell him I'm still waiting for that inheritance to clear. Ask if he got the money for the documentation fees I sent. Haven't been able to contact him since i sent the money.
not a bad price….
But it's a way beyond my affordabilityImagine how many little torches and Eneloops you could buy with that sort of cash
I've never heard of anyone ever paying IBM's list price. Its a stupidly over inflated number with no real world correlation.
Any business seriously looking at buying SPSS would get a hold of an IBM business partner or 3 and get a 'real' quote…
Isn't it free at uni lab? Why would you buy a commercial licence??? SPSS is pretty much a stat pack for dummies anyway and haven't seen many 'real' statisticians using it so not worth moeny if for yourself. Just go to the uni lab and show your OZbargain sprit or get a grad pack.
If it's for yourself then learn R or SAS from SAS uni edition. SAS student edition is free through VM connection.Or stick the job on oDesk or Freelancer and have it done for $13 in 4 hours.
No, i didn't neg you but good luck with that! you'll probably get -$13 worth of analysis!
Agree with getting R
A lot harder to use but the savings are ∞!SPSS is pretty much a stat pack for dummies anyway and haven't seen many 'real' statisticians using it
Hey! I'm a real statistician and I've used SPSS, without the crazy price it's probably what I'd default to if I wanted to do anything simple and produce easier to customise graphs etc. SAS for big jobs and large data sets across multiple data sources, but can be quite difficult to customise your outputs for non stats audiences.
checking to see if the price was a typo… holy crap.
I'll take five!
Good deal but a little late. I just bought 1 last week for double the price. Can i return and buy again?
Wow…. SPSS is still around?
I initially read that as 62 bucks, then I continued using excel.
do you need all the modules?
our quote for the modules we require (several versions back) for concurrent users was just over $9,000.
Be best to speak with the sales staff and work out what you need and what they can do for you price wise.
The "Australia" premium on the cost of this software is just ludicrous. I think from memory it was almost 400% mark-up from US prices back then
can you please print the receipt? My mate @bunnings says he can definitely do special order and beat it by 10%.
R (with R-Studio if you're a gui-head) FTW.
Free, open-source, cross-platform, developed by a pair of Kiwis (World Champs, cuz!)… plenty of packages for anything from CDO pricing to Markowitz EV portfolio optimisation (port.optim - great package). Massive (and helpful) userbase.
Closed-source walled-garden software is for iCulters.
I've used SAAS, SPSS, TSP (in the 90s), eViews… none of them come remotely close to R if you're statistically competent, and none of them are any use if you're not.
For me "R vs the rest" is a kind of test of competence: same as "Do you use LaTeX or Word to typeset technical work?"
what about Prism? at least unsw students gets it for free as far as I know. (not SPSS)
Prism is fantastic for simple modeling in that it dynamically updates the model output as you clear outliers etc. The stats is basic and useful for most parametric needs, although most researchers will run stats in a code based environment to batch process, enable subsequent higher level post hoc comparisons etc.
Actually, many colleagues use prism simply for its figure/graph output
that's cheap!