I am not an Apple fan but this seems like a decent price, with free delivery until Sunday.
Phone is unlocked.
Australian stock according to store rep, but do your own checking if you must…..
Apple iPhone 5 64GB White - Only $649.95 + Free Shipping @ Mobicity
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This is Australian stock.
This is Australian stock.
NOT according to your staff!
They confirmed these are Hong Kong Market phones, and that they ARE NOT IN STOCK IN AUSTRALIA but will be supplied FROM Hong Kong. I was very careful to be clear with my questions.
I know for a fact that this iPhone 5 64GB White stock is sourced from Australia. Apologies that you were told otherwise.
I know for a fact that this iPhone 5 64GB White stock is sourced from Australia. Apologies that you were told otherwise.
"Sourced from Australia" means Australian Market models - first sold in Australia.
You keep changing your 'story'. I would love to see some IMEI numbers from these iPhones.
I don't know what your problem is mate, I haven't changed any 'story'. This stock is sourced from Australia (the exact same stock that JB Hi-Fi sells), sent over to our Hong Kong warehouse, then shipped from there. How can I make this anymore simple for you?
Why is it sent to the HK warehouse and not locally? Doesn't it sound weird to route the stock to HK then back to Aus?
Because MobiCity is a Hong Kong company, and stock in Australia can occasionally be cheaper to source than international stock.
No that's not my question, my question is, if this is an Australian stock, then that means the stock per se is physically located inside Australia. But if it needs be shipped out from HK? Does that mean you shipped all of this Australian stock back to your HK warehouse, only to then ship it back out to Australia?
Stock has already been sourced from Australia and sent back to our Hong Kong warehouse, and not all orders placed with us are from customers in Australia, we also receive orders from many other regions, such as New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States.
Because MobiCity is a Hong Kong company, and stock in Australia can occasionally be cheaper to source than international stock.
Hey. Here is a business plan.
Buy Australian Market iPhones in Australia from Apple or an Apple Authorised Reseller. AT RETAIL, or at most a small discount (10 to 15% if you are VERY lucky)!
Then pack and send them to Hong Kong at Australian freight/post rates!
Then, sell them back into Australia!
Some companies actually purchase Australian stock for the overseas market.
They probably place a bulk order directly from HK which saves them taxes and then ship the phones to HK in a large container. Anyone that has used eBay knows shipping from HK to AU is cheaper than AU to AU (or anywhere for that matter).
Some companies actually purchase Australian stock for the overseas market.
Yes, they used to do this. When USA and other countries did not supply 'unlocked' iPhones.
They probably place a bulk order directly from HK which saves them taxes and then ship the phones to HK in a large container. Anyone that has used eBay knows shipping from HK to AU is cheaper than AU to AU (or anywhere for that matter).
Bulk order with whom?
Apple and their resellers will not supply outside of Australia/NZ.
What taxes? There is only the GST which businesses claim back.
Shipping a few iPhones from AU to HK is going to be expensive no matter what.
Plus, businesses, even Hong Kong ones, do not operate like this. THEY DO NOT BUY AND/OR HOLD LARGE STOCKS OF IPHONES.
I know for a fact …
The problem is that what you know as a fact today, may not be a fact when phone arrives.
Regardless of how/where you get the phones, if MobiCity is selling an Australian model covered by Apple Australia warranty, is should state so specifically, else their default "All devices come with our 12 month warranty MobiCare 12, which is included in the standard purchase price. This warranty is serviced by our warranty partner, Australian Warranty Services." warranty applies.
BTW, thanks A3Australia for heads-up - it's up to each buyer to weigh-up the risks as long as it's clear what they are.
Grabbing popcorn and going to read how this clusterf!$k unravels
I think mobicity sells grey import phones.
Yes. I am not sure if these will be grey market imports, or a private import delivered from overseas. In any case, there will be no local Apple Warranty support and no local 'out of warranty' support.
Not according to this:
http://www.crn.com.au/News/315769,how-kogan-can-sell-the-iph…"It’s important to note Kogan’s iPhone 5 is a grey import from Hong Kong, meaning the retailer is bringing the devices over through non-official Apple channels."
"Apple confirmed Kogan’s iPhones are still serviceable at Apple stores under its global one-year warranty.""Apple confirmed Kogan’s iPhones are still serviceable at Apple stores under its global one-year warranty."
This has been proven to be false information. There should have been a retraction.
Confirmed as a private import.
The "in stock quick delivery" they claim is actually "we may have some in our Hong Kong office, otherwise we will nip out and buy one and then send it to you in Australia".
Phone staff lie and state that these phones are covered under "Apple's International Warrranty".
The better deal was that "voucher" one at JB recently.
Sorry if you were told this, though that is incorrect, this is Australian stock.
There is some confusion around this, though Apple does repair / replace international iPhone stock, despite saying otherwise. There are very few cases, where Apple refuses to repair / replace an iPhone, due to it being international stock.
Hong Kong got the same Model A1429 as Australia, so should be correct. [Edit: but only covered for 12 months, not 24 months as per genuine Australian stock.]
One way to confirm is what wall plug comes with it. If you needed to ship an adapter, then it's overseas stock.
Hong Kong got the same Model A1429 as Australia, so should be correct. [Edit: but only covered for 12 months, not 24 months as per genuine Australian stock.]
No, not correct. Apple identify from which market the phone was purchased via the IMEI number. China/Hong Kong/Macau phones are not covered for warranty by Apple Australia for any period - 12 months or two years.
They are covered for 12 months warranty from Apple Hong Kong.
One way to confirm is what wall plug comes with it. If you needed to ship an adapter, then it's overseas stock.
Their web site states that a plug adaptor is included. Their staff state that these phones are Hong Kong Stock, and that they will be delivered from Hong Kong.
As it is Australian stock, the wall adapter is Australian.
As it is Australian stock, the wall adapter is Australian.
You meant to say that the Duck Tail Plug is a Australian. Then why supply a plug adaptor? And why do the staff say otherwise?
You are just trolling now mate. I am not going to argue with someone who cannot see reason.
You are just trolling now mate. I am not going to argue with someone who cannot see reason.
I am stating facts.
Facts supplied from the MobiCity website, and from MobiCity sales staff.
Facts supplied by Apple Australia from their site, and from their phone support staff, and from their regional office in Singapore.
Sorry if you were told this, though that is incorrect, this is Australian stock.
You mean - These are overseas model iPhones, imported by us and in stock in Australia.
There is some confusion around this, though Apple does repair / replace international iPhone stock, despite saying otherwise. There are very few cases, where Apple refuses to repair / replace an iPhone, due to it being international stock.
Nonsense. Apple's policy is clearly stated on their website and by their staff. There have been some exceptions in a very few cases.
Stop trying to mislead OzBargainers.
1) Private Imports are not covered for local warranty and out of warranty support.
They are not covered under Australian Consumer Protection Legislation.2) Grey Market Imports (overseas model phones imported by you) ARE covered by Australian Consumer Protection Legislation BUT ARE NOT covered for local Apple warranty and out of warranty support.
3) Australian Market iPhones purchased in Australia are covered for Warranty, out of warranty support, and Australian Consumer Protection Legislation.
I said that this is Australian stock, as it is sourced from Australia. What you are saying is incorrect.
The fact of the matter is that Apple is repairing and replacing international iPhone stock.
I said that this is Australian stock, as it is sourced from Australia. What you are saying is incorrect.
Sourced from Australia again. Weasel words again.
The fact of the matter is that Apple is repairing and replacing international iPhone stock.
Lies.
I have been holding off - but now a neg from me because of a misleading and quite possibly lieing 'associated' commenter.
Sorry OP no reflection on you.Mark-F Are ALL these phones Australian a Market models sourced from Apple Australia?
I am not a rep. I am associated with the company, there is a difference. I was simply telling you the facts. Sorry, though you are a very rude person. Not all iPhone stock is sourced from Australia, this specific iPhone stock is sourced from Australia.
How are you associated?
Does Mobicity know that you're linking your unprofessional behaviour and incorrect information to their business? I don't know who owns Mobicity but if I had someone linking themselves to my business and claiming they're sharing intricate details of my operations I would be going apeshit.
"Lies"
You have no idea mate. If Apple was not repairing our international iPhone stock in Australia, we would know about it. We probably have an Apple store refuse to repair international iPhone stock, every few months on average.
"You have no idea mate. If Apple was not repairing our international iPhone stock in Australia, we would know about it. We probably have an Apple store refuse to repair international iPhone stock, every few months on average.
I know far more that you about this subject. Stop lieing.
No you don't. I am telling you the facts, you don't have to believe me, though you are wrong.
No you don't. I am telling you the facts, you don't have to believe me, though you are wrong.
1) Call Apple Australia on 1300-321-456 ask for their policy on warranty for overseas model iPhones.
2) The site and the staff state that the iPhone linked to from this deal is a HK/China/Macau model. Supplied from Hong Kong to Australia. Supplied with a Hong Kong AC Carger and a plug adapter for Australia. A plug adapter that is not safety certified for use in Australia.
3) If you can supply a link for the White iPhone 5 64GB at the same price that IS an Australian Market model. Please do so - or post it as a separate deal.
I don't care what they say, I am telling you what is actually happening. Your knowledge on the subject is based on what you read online, whereas mine is based on actual experience.
Most of our iPhone stock is sourced from overseas, iPhone 5 64GB White stock is currently being sourced from Australia.
This IS an Australian Market model. I have no reason to do that.
I don't care what they say, I am telling you what is actually happening. Your knowledge on the subject is based on what you read online, whereas mine is based on actual experience.
No incorrect. My info. is from in-store experiences witnessed by me on several occasions, and from Apple Staff and Apple Australia Head Office.
Most of our iPhone stock is sourced from overseas, iPhone 5 64GB White stock is currently being sourced from Australia.
Then why is this not reflected by information given on the MobiCity site and by the MobiCity staff?
Whether you believe me or not, the fact of the matter is that most Apple stores are repairing / replacing faulty international iPhone stock.
"Then why is this not reflected by information given on the MobiCity site and by the MobiCity staff?"
None of our listings usually mention which region stock is coming from, due to this changing on a regular basis. I was simply correcting your comment about this being international stock, when it is not.
Whether you believe me or not, the fact of the matter is that most Apple stores are repairing / replacing faulty international iPhone stock.
I appreciate your belief. However, YOU ARE WRONG. All Australian Apple Stores are under instructions NOT to repair or replace iPhones that were first supplied in other markets. It comes up on their screens when they input the IMEI numbers. I have witnessed cases where the staffer has said they will replace - only to go back on this after entering the phone's IMEI number.
None of our listings usually mention which region stock is coming from, due to this changing on a regular basis. I was simply correcting your comment about this being international stock, when it is not.
"Our listings" huh? "Associated" huh? Anyway, it would be simple to make a sales page for the Australian Market Model if there were one AND to property instruct staff about the model.
What's in the box?
Battery, Original charger, Adaptor plug, Warranty card, New phone guide, Wired handsfree, Manual, Unlocked phoneStraight from the lproduct page.
The white stock is sourced from Australia and includes a genuine Australian wall charger (which is what this deal is about). The black colour is international stock.
The white stock is sourced from Australia and includes a genuine Australian wall charger (which is what this deal is about). The black colour is international stock.
This deal was posted for the Black HK/China/Macau Market Model model - as per the link provided.
If you can provide a working link for a White iP5 64GB Australian Market model at the same price please do so.
The deals subject clearly says: "Apple iPhone 5 64GB White"
I cannot do more than provide you with the facts mate. This is stock sourced from Australia, meant for the Australian market.
"If you can provide a working link for a White iP5 64GB Australian Market model at the same price please do so."
If you cannot find any white Australian stock going for this price, then that is simply proof that this is a good deal.
The deals subject clearly says: "Apple iPhone 5 64GB White"
My apologies, it does. However, on my iPad the link comes up with the picture of the Black model.
If you can provide a working link for a White iP5 64GB Australian Market model at the same price please do so.
That link is for the white one by default - there is a tick in the white box under the price $649.95 (Regular $899.95). If you clicked on the black box, the price changes to $949.95 (LOL).
The confusing thing is the picture of the iPhone stays the same with the black bezel.
Myabe bought it from JB Hi Fi with voucher bar code few weeks ago, then bakc to H.K. with T.R.S?
We have Australian suppliers, we do not need to purchase Australian stock at RRP.
We have Australian suppliers, we do not need to purchase Australian stock at RRP.
You supossedly know how the Apple iPhone supply chain works.
Therefore you must know there are only two suppliers. Apple Australia and Apple's Authorised Resellers (the retailers and the carriers).
You really don't want to believe what I am telling you about this being Australian stock, lol. I know who the supplier is, that information is none of your business though.
I know who the supplier is, that information is none of your business though.
Ohhh… A secret supplier of cheap Australian Market iPhones. This happened once before that I know of - turned out to be stolen goods.
Myabe (sic) bought it from JB Hi Fi with voucher bar code few weeks ago, then bakc (sic) to H.K. with T.R.S?
Then the cost of packing and freight to Hong Kong?
Then the cost of shipping back to Australia?
MobiCity.com.au is registered as a .com.au via the Trademark loophole by Glotech Services.
There is no ABN or ACN supplied.
Seemingly there is no physical presence in Australia.
Trademark Number Description Type Status Lodgement Date
1580336 MOBICITY YOUR MOBILE DESTINATION Word Indexing Approved 2013-09-13
1416705 SMOOTH MOBILES Word Registered/Protected 2011-03-28
1402460 MOBICITY Word Under Examination - Extension Fees Not Required 2011-01-04
1393939 ACCESSORYCITY Word Registered/Protected 2010-11-11
1350277 MOBICITY YOUR MOBILE DESTINATION Word REFUSED 2010-03-24
1350275 CAMERACITY MORE FLASH FOR YOUR CASH Word Registered/Protected 2010-03-24So they're breaching the requirements for .com.au registration or is it a valid loophole?
So they're breaching the requirements for .com.au registration or is it a valid loophole?
It is a valid way of registering a .com.au I am afraid. That is why I call it a "loophole".
nice find!
:popcorn:
Is there a C-Tick?
Is there a C-Tick?
The iP5 (China Market model and others) is covered, and this is now displayed in the firmware at Settings>General>About>Legal>Regulatory
The China/Hong Kong Market AC Charger is not Safety Certified for Australia, nor is the supplied AC Plug Adapter.
i smell war
Hi folks, I am the OP…..just got back from lunch and see there is a lot of friction about whether this is Aus stock or not. I just want to make it clear that I am not associated with Mobicity and I was not sure whether this was Aus stock or not, that is why did not say. Based on that, I think the negs are a bit unfair. It is still a good price regardless of Aus stock or not, even though I prefer Android products myself.
Hi folks, I am the OP…..just got back from lunch and see there is a lot of friction about whether this is Aus stock or not. I just want to make it clear that I am not associated with Mobicity and I was not sure whether this was Aus stock or not, that is why did not say. Based on that, I think the negs are a bit unfair. It is still a good price regardless of Aus stock or not, even though I prefer Android products myself.
Welcome back OP.
As you will note. I stated (when I decided on a neg for this deal) that my neg is no reflection on you.
One needed to look closely at the sales page, and the site, and to speak to their sales rep, in order to clarify that this was an overseas model.
It is still a good price regardless of Aus stock or not, even though I prefer Android products myself.
Taking the recent sales on Australian Market iP5 64GB handsets by TELSTRA and JB HiFi into account. Plus the lack of local Warranty and Out of Warranty support. I do not believe that it is such a good price.
EDIT:
After speaking again to MobiCiti sales staff. I can not ascertain from them if they actually have/hold any stock in Hong Kong. I believe that they get stock after one places/pays for an order.
A3Australia, it doesn't look like we are going to agree on anything, so I call a truce.
I will however quickly confirm that the mobile in the colour white is Australian stock, and that the mobile in the colour black is international stock.
Our disagreements regarding the repair of international stock don't really matter, as this is Australian stock, and would therefore come up in Apple's systems as being Australian stock.
Have a nice day, cya.
How can you "confirm" this when you admit you're not a representative or employee of the company?
Any IPhones bought from overseas will not cover by Australia Apple store warranty full stop. If any of you want to buy this phone from this company, you can call Australia Apple Store and the apple store reps will tell you, your phone is not cover under their warranty.
SO CALL AUSTRALIA APPLE STORE TO CONFIRM, DON'T LISTEN TO THE SELLERS
Any IPhones bought from overseas will not cover by Australia Apple store warranty full stop. If any of you want to buy this phone from this company, you can call Australia Apple Store and the apple store reps will tell you, your phone is not cover under their warranty.
SO CALL AUSTRALIA APPLE STORE TO CONFIRM, DON'T LISTEN TO THE SELLERS
Good advice fishandchips! However, a warning, some Apple Australia support staff do not know this - sometimes they have to check with their superiors or their 'notes' on their screens to get the true facts.
Also, an Australian Market iPhone will be covered under Apple Australia's Warranty even if it was purchased second hand and/or outside of Australia. It just has to be established via the IMEI number that the phone was first supplied in AU/NZ by Apple Australia.
Buyers just bring this ads to officework, they will price match and plus 5% Off
Buyers just bring this ads to officework, they will price match and plus 5% Off
Ah… Love your 'work' fishandchips! If only OfficeWorks stocked this model iPhone AND if only they would believe the Associated member over the sales site itself.
Judging by this discussion it almost seems like that unless you are classed as an 'authorized reseller' then in some way shape of form it is eventually classed as a grey import?
I think it boils down to are you dealing with a reputable business who will honor their warranty obligations under Australian consumer law. I've seen mobicity has been floating around the traps for a while so I figure they are not fly in fly out when it comes to this. However I cannot comment onto peoples dealings with them re: warranty issues…
Judging by this discussion it almost seems like that unless you are classed as an 'authorized reseller' then in some way shape of form it is eventually classed as a grey import?
Nup. The iPhone itself identifies itself via its IMEI number.
I think it boils down to are you dealing with a reputable business who will honor their warranty obligations under Australian consumer law.
This business is a Hong Kong one. The ONLY Australian link is the .com.au and possibly a phone number.
They clearly state that goods are shipped from Hong Kong. Buyers are therefore the importers.
They would have no obligations to buyers under Australian Consumer Laws and Legislation.
I've seen mobicity has been floating around the traps for a while so I figure they are not fly in fly out when it comes to this. However I cannot comment onto peoples dealings with them re: warranty issues…
Hmmm… No Australian presence. Perhaps an agent acting as a repair center?
What we need is for somebody to go into a genuine apple shop with this advert [printed] this arvo and ask if that genuine apple shop will price match.
Quick… who is closest to a real apple shop?
real ones?… how many are fake? :P
real ones?… how many are fake? :P
Still fake Apple stores in China?
What we need is for somebody to go into a genuine apple shop with this advert [printed] this arvo and ask if that genuine apple shop will price match.
Quick… who is closest to a real apple shop?
I am on my way to the Bondi Junction Apple Store in a few minutes. No need to print, I can show them this thread. However, I am sure they will, politely, refuse (stifling laughter as they do so). BUT do they even still stock/sell this model? I think not.
You can't exactly price match a model they don't sell anymore… this is the iPhone 5 not 5S.
They still sell models as old as 3GS.
Why so much bickering over an overpriced and superceded phone?
Just accept that the rep's staff were misinformed and got it wrong and he's selling AU stock located in HK. For these prices, I can believe that it's AU stock. It's certainly no bargain if it's a grey import.
Hahahaha this page is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh everyone!
Apple Store say that this on-line store sells overseas models. That they have no way of obtaining Australian Market models as they are not authorised to buy from Apple Australia and no Australian reseller may sell to an overseas reseller.
That they have no way of obtaining Australian Market models as they are not authorised to buy from Apple Australia and no Australian reseller may sell to an overseas reseller.
I've often wondered where telcos "dump" their excess stock. Apparently they have to commit to a certain number of units.
Many thanks. that sorts that out then, now and in future.
If apple dropped the price to match , there may be a stampede to the apple shops…
Funny. Must've missed the queues at every launch. Every year.
I would like to confirm, i have received my order today and it is indeed Australian Stock.
I think mobicity sells grey import phones.