Logitech security system 50% off at JB-Hifi. Free delivery too.
Logitech 750i Alert Indoor Master $189.50
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/computers-laptops/computer-ac…
Logitech 700i Alert Indoor Add-On Camera $139.50
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/computers-laptops/computer-ac…
Logitech 750e Alert Outdoor Master $223
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/computers-laptops/computer-ac…
Logitech 700e Alert Outdoor Add-On Camera $184.50
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/computers-laptops/computer-ac…
whats the previous model?
M/N: DVS-800I and outdoor ones (when they were on "Clearance"a while ago
Not previous model, they are the older versions.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/4311?crid=587&osid=1&b…
The indoor model really give you a "Wide angle view " unlike most of the other wifi models
Fantastic price. I just bought the outdoor master system from the states, refurbished version for not a whole lot less. I had convinced myself that Australia versions would never come down from their stupidly inflated RRP.
Yea. Fantastic price. Thanks for the heads up.
How do these compare to the D-Link ones?
I was thinking getting the cheaper low spec cloud cams.
most of the D-link one use crappy MJPEG. what you want is h.264
You're right. Thanks for the heads up.
While doing more research, it seems the Logitech software only supports Windows. Mac users should be aware of this.
While dlink doesn't support the better H.264 codec, it does support Mac users.
Hmm, interesting… but why are they still so expensive even at half price? Serious question because I've been keeping an eye on a few generic weatherproof IP cameras on eBay for a while and will soon buy a few to monitor areas around the house.
$174.00 gets you one of these inc. shipping: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330827852551?ssPageName=STRK:MEWA… These are not only cheaper then the outdoor Logitechs but boast a manually adjustable varifocal lens allowing quite a lot of optical zoom on top of the standard digital zoom all other cameras have anyway. These are also a higher resolution plus even though I there are hardly any nitty-gritty specs available for the Logitech I assume the eBay generics also boast better IR throw and low light capabilities too. Sure they're OS so they're 2-4 weeks away but I still can't figure out why the Logitechs are so expensive.
Am I missing something? Oh, is it because the Logitech comes with a HomePlug receiver and Logitech branded software?
because its branded and has a lot of software support
Ah yeah. Brand names & support seem to still be expensive so fair enough but the generics are pretty easy to figure out (ie. punch in an IP address and go from there) and there's heaps of FREE IP camera software & mobile apps that seem to do exactly what anyone needs or even wants!
So to summarise I guess these are still expensive compared to others because they're branded, have branded software & support plus they come supplied with the HomePlug accessories which many people don't actually need.
Seems a good price for those who DO need to use the HomePlug method though so yeah I give this deal a greenie.
That ebay camera also isn't wifi based. It requires a network cable.
It also doesn't mention what operating systems are supported. Windows is assumed supported, nothing else.
The Logitech camera isn't Wifi either but I understand what you're getting at… you don't need to run a dedicated cable to use it. Fair enough however there are many generic cameras available on eBay for less then $100 that ARE Wifi & LAN capable but the one in my link is about the cheapest camera I can find with the varifocal lens which is what I need for my application.
Software support? This is the beauty of the generics… they're not tied to any OS, you simply punch their IP address into a browser (Windows, Mac, Android, whatever) and bingo you get the footage! If you wish to record/view/manage a collection of cameras that's easy too as all the software is actually built-in to the cameras themselves and you simply punch the other cameras IP addresses in (usually up to 8) and see them all on screen at once or individually or whatever. No actual software required but there is 3rd party software available to do everything else most people need anyway.
May not be as smooth & glossy as the Logitech solution during setup but would easily produce the same results in the long run from the $50 cheapie indoor pan/tilt IP cameras I've used in the past.
So could you purchase the Logitech 700e model instead of the 750e and use generic software?
You can purchase the 700e and use the Logitech software (free download). The only difference with the 'master systems' is the extra Ethernet over power adapter. I use my own power over Ethernet switch with these systems so I don't use the adapters.
The Logitech's sold here are 720p cameras, and they have very nice quality optics and image quality. The cheap IP cams in the $50 - $150 range tend to be low resolution, or not very sharp. Going up in price from about $150 - $400 or so, you can get some really good Chinese knockoffs.
I agree that the generic chinese models not tied into OS is great. I have a couple of FOSCAM's that I used in this way until purchasing the Alert. However they are a bit of a pain to manage if you're not technically minded. I had to wire up the cameras, assign fixed IP's, establish a FTP server for it to write images to and set up a dyndns service to get it all working and accessible remotely.
In comparison, with the Logitech I literally just plugged it in, installed the software, and everything worked out of the box. For me that was worth the extra price, and sacrificing some functionality.
These cameras also locally record to an SD card on board the camera This is useful if you don't have a server running 24/7. Although if someone steals your camera and you aren't live recording to a server then you've got no video of the incident. The cameras have some smarts on board too, they'll only record to the SD card based on the same settings the Logitech software uses to record (movement etc).
They also integrate with Logitech's online service which can record straight to one of there servers (for a fee) or allows viewing through remote apps without messing around with dynamic DNS etc.
Camera security is over rated. Does't really do anything for security. Just lets you know that you've been robbed, which you would soon find out anyway when you get home. Doesn't really do anything to deter thieves, in fact may attract them as they think you have something valuable there if you have security cameras. Also doesn't really do anything to catch thieves.
Agreed however a lot of people don't use them for 'away-from-home' security… like me for example. I initially plan to install two cameras, one to zoom in on visitors at the front gate from a distance and pair that with a simple voice intercom and a second to give a wider view of the entire front yard so when I'm hiding away in a room at the back of the house and hear someone pull up out the front I can see what's going on. More just for general monitoring really because the electrified drop-netting & motion-triggered pepper spray should be enough to deter would-be thieves :P
Its a pretty huge deterrent unless you have professional thieves targeting your home in particular. in which case short of a gun there isn't much you can do.
This is why its great having one with a flashing light, and you need infrared to show them that if they come back at night time they will see be seen.
Remember they don't know how good the picture is, and by the time they see the camera their face is recorded so its unlikely they will want to come back.
Indoor security cameras without visible outdoors cameras are different, once they break in and they notice the camera its too late as taking all your stuff or leaving it will still get them in trouble (although one more then the other)
I frequently cross the road while the red man is flashing so I considering myself a seasoned criminal and I can categorically say that no amount or quality of camera’s will deter my criminal ways.
Australia will find you, and we will bring you to justice!
I have the previous version and have found it useful by:
- proving the AusPost contractor didn't attempt delivery as claimed, just put a pre-filled card in letterbox and left. (I was home at the time)
- showed that the total time a courier waited for an answer to the doorbell before leaving was 17 seconds. (I took ~ 40 seconds to answer the door and he already had driven off)
- recording unknown person "casing" the place, ie entering property, looking over fences, etc.
- recording gardener leaving after 40 minutes, when I was charged for an hour.
Also I've two break-ins before the camera was installed, none since. Maybe it's just coincidence, or maybe the camera put them off.
However the camera (again, previous version) isn't perfect.
It has no night vision (current one, 750e, does). I've got a motion activated security light, but the camera's automatic exposure takes about 10 seconds to go from near-night vision to bright light, so someone moving quickly to the door is just an over-exposed blur.
The software is really picky about sending email alerts. If for any reason it can't post to your email server once (I use yahoo, as it doesn't support Gmail's security, and it's a little durpy), it pops up a alert and stops trying. IE if you lose your connection for 5 seconds at 9am, it won't send any more alerts until you reset it when you get home at 6pm (it still records everything though.)
Are these camera models all from 2009?
maybe theres a new model coming out in 2013?
There was some talk that Logitech were trying to offload several of their divisions, I believe one of them being the security camera devision. Maybe this is just clearing the decks, I doubt there will be another Logitech branded camera released.
These cameras are great, the price is very nice as well.
I believe the cheapest I have been able to secure a 700e camera was for $180 from Logitech Shop last year but they have never been that cheap again. I believe the current selling price of the 700e is $279 from LS.
Thinking to get this to see if there is any paranormal activity in the house.
Anyone know if I can get these in-store?
I was thinking of getting the 750e (I fairly new to this) what would you recommend to have a basic front of house setup? Should I get an additional 700e at this price to complement it?
From what I understood Logitechs new cameras now make you pay for internet access on them. You have to connect through their front end portal. They give you a short time then you have to pay a yearly fee.
The internet access fee (I think it's around $79.99 a year) is to be able to remotely download recorded video outside your home network.
You can still view it live, and have it send emails/sms whenever motion detection is triggered for free.
If you have a home computer that's always on, you can get around this by remote desktopping in and viewing it that way.
I haven't tried this service yet, so I can't comment, although I believe it comes with a 7 day free trial.
Basic service is lifetime free view ur cams live, if you wish to use a premium, watch previous recordings its 80 a year or use logmein to ur server for free.
You can connect via your own internet and have triggers sent to you via email.
Also there are mobile apps that give you live viewing from where ever you are. (use net)
Does anyone know if these work with my old logitech security master system (the wilife ones)?
These ones http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-WiLife-Digital-Security-Indoo…
EDIT- Don't worry I found the answer= "No, Logitech Alert is a completely new video security system that is not compatible with the WiLife system.
The new Logitech Alert system incorporates several customer requested features, among these is the ability to record even when your PC is turned off or is not connected to your network. Unfortunately, adding these new features required significant redesign of the camera making the two systems incompatible."
http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/…
(Redundant comment - looks like you found your answer.)
750i/700i doesn't support night vision
Correct, logitech released the 700n which does do night vision but unfortunately jbhifi don't sell it.
I actually went into JB and asked about the 700n (as for me, not having night vision internally would be a deal breaker).
The assistant said they could order the 700n in and also that it WAS covered in the 50% off sale (which incidentally is advertised in store as being on sale until Sunday).
The price she quoted me for $345 and with the 50% off it came down to $172.50 obviously as well.
Decisions, decisions :)
Which store was this? No night vision renders this pointless as most burglaries would be at night, I'd definitely push for the 700n as well.
Kotara, NSW in the Westfield's.
But I'm sure if one JB can do it, the others should be able to.
700n 750n to my knowledge has not been released in aus, unless she got verbal.written confirmation shes assuming.
Thanks for that , reading the Logitech website it appears the outdoor combo which I've bought (700e/750e) has better night vision than the 700n.
So I might be ok.
She looked it up in the system and double-checked the price to ensure the discount could be offered on an item they would have to "order in".
Looks available to me:
Logitech 750n:
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=logitech+70…
Logitech 750n:
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=logitech+75…
Bought both the 750e and had JB order the 700n in for me.
All paid for and should have the 700n in a few days :)
These Logitech camera's are actual IP cameras, although you cant set a static IP. You can however put in a Mac address reservation into your DHCP server on your network so the camera's get the same IP address.
You don't need a master system, all you need is the extension cameras as well as a switch that can support POE. I use Blue Iris software with my Logitech cameras which works quite well.
Wifi camera's are really only good if you have a power point in the place you need to mount. Generally you dont have power points near your ceiling so you may as well have the camera wired into the network with POE for greater stability over wifi.
The old version of the cameras had a 85Mb/s Homeplug 1.0 EoP adaptor built into the cameras casing itself.
So the current version is a IP camera connected by just an ethernet cable to a Homeplug adaptor with a PoE power injector built in?
edit: Actually I found this which seems to confirm the above.
Does anyone know what version of Homeplug the current cameras use? Version 1 (85Mb/s) or Version AV (200Mb/s)?
We're moving into a new house and thinking of buying these systems. Do I need to hire an electrician to install these systems ? How do you provide backup power to them as I've heard that the first thing the thieves do is turn off the main switch?
Set up a camera where your main switch is.
Providing backup power is very expensive if you have multiple cameras in different areas.
I won't switch it off but smash it with a hammer instead. Your focus should be keeping the evidence of the filmed video on your wireless backup or icloud some sort.
Anyway to rig this up to a siren? i.e if it detects movement it makes a shit load of noise. IMO a howler is the biggest deterrent
It is difficult to do this without a lot of false positives.
Got the 750e today, up n running, so far so good. Email alerts coming through fine. Will see how well it works at night.
Does the current software support Gmail?
ie port:465/995 and TLS/SSL
Uh….. ._.
That's probably a bit too technical for me, but when motion is detected it basically sends an email alert with a picture attachment.
"Your Zurt camera at Home detected motion Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:54:07 PM. Check out the attached snapshot that it captured"
I'm assuming it does through the Logitech client sw running on my PC. If I turn it off I'm under the impression the alerts will cease. Though the manual does say that it will still continue to record locally to internal storage until the next time you boot up your pc for it to upload the recorded footage.
That's probably a bit too technical for me, but when motion is detected it basically sends an email alert with a picture attachment.
No problem. Just look on the screen where you entered your outgoing mail settings into the security app.
Is there a checkbox for "This servers uses TLS/SSL" or similar?
Is there a way to specify an outgoing port?
There isn't a way to specify ports. All the client asks for is an email address.
Funny how they advertise the 750e like it comes with a screen
So pleased with the 750e that I went back in today to get the 700i!
Expired now. Lucky I bought them yesterday. Thanks to rysith for letting us know that it expired on Sunday. Thanks for posting the deal asidfreak.
They are now back online.
Has anyone used these cameras with a Synology NAS? Any comments on how well it works?
Backup to Dropbox possible
These are now much cheaper on logitechshop.-
http://www.logitechshop.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=alert
Logitech Alert™ 750e Outdoor Master-Price : $199.00
Logitech Alert™ 700e Outdoor addon- Price : $175.00
Logitech Alert™ 750i Master System- Price : $175.00
Logitech Alert™ 700i Add-On Camera- $119.00
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Wow, I'll be returning mine to JB.
Yay lucky for me JB Hi-fi didn't post my order yesterday and I just canceled my order before they posted it ^_^
Will they let you return it if there is nothing wrong with it?
Did you open it, etc?
Given the 750e is more expensive than the 750i, in an indoor/outdoor combo would it be a better idea to have a 750i as a master with 700e's connected to it (I assume they are interchangeable with each other.
yes
I have the previous version… Very easy to set up, software OK.
This is HD and some improvement of the software layout…