Interest in if people prefer download speed vs upload speed
What nbn Speed Would You Prefer out of These Options
SpeedAU on 26/04/2025 - 10:43
Last edited 26/04/2025 - 11:42 by 1 other user
Last edited 26/04/2025 - 11:42 by 1 other user
Poll Options
- 89100/40
- 9250/25
- 220250/100
- 4101000/50
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=6.0869
or 6.0(4*2)69
That equals 3312
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Are they all the same price pm?
25/5 or 12/1
25/5 or 12/1
More than sufficient for OzBargain. Its embarrassing that sparsely populated NZ has better and cheaper internet than here.
@sentinel: NZ has a high density of people in a comparably tiny size of land compared to Australia.
Why would you even attempt to bother comparing the two ?
@infinite: Not sure how much you know about how dispersed the population is in NZ. Compared to the population, GDP, terrain and land area of NZ, it is embarrassing that the NBN is not comparable. The reason is the change to MTM and its now costing even more than FTTP as the NBN was first planned.
@Mintee - what's your preference?
Im not looking for internet plans right now
If not about price, then the 100/40 and 250/25 options are irrelevant as they are strictly dominated by the 250/100 and 1000/50 options.
Therefore, the question is whether you would prefer the 250/100 or 1000/50 option.
I just pay a nice man to run to the library and print out the internet for me. Not sure what connection speed that is.
Huge throughput!
Sneakernet… Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
Exactly this. High latency, High bandwidth.
I will settle for many cheaper alternatives in life but internet speed tiers is not one of them
Pot me down for 1000/50 brah
500/100
None of those. 25/5 is enough for me.
1000/50 out of those. No love for 500/200 and 1000/400?
500/200 and 1000/400 are good options but all the ones listed above are around $50-80 per month. Im not sure if it's me but having faster upload speed seems to make the internet feel faster? maybe its just me :P
You can get 1000\50 for $50-80pm - is that just a short time thing or are you living somewhere in Asia?
I saw a deal on here for $85 the other day
no when you factor in cashbacks yes you can, churn every six months
Im not sure if it's me but having faster upload speed seems to make the internet feel faster? maybe its just me :P
This'll sound counterintuitive, but try using QoS to cap all your local devices to 80% of your usual maximum.
This stops a single device from saturating either uploads or downloads.
If you're maxing out an upload for example, that adds latency to your downloads as well.
My internet has never felt faster lol
5G thanks.
I don't need to pay the NBN a huge amount to get good speed when I don't use a lot of data. It simply doesn't have plans for people like me.
Must be nice living in one of the seemingly four suburbs 5G Home Internet is available in
25/5 is enough for home use for me.
Would also love a mobile phone plan at max of 2GB/month. For $10
Why include 100/40 and 250/25 in your poll if you are trying to figure out whether people priority download speed over upload speed?
Options (from what you've included) should be 250/100 and 1000/50.
Download speed but if i preferred upload none of those are acceptable, for upload i'd go 1000/400
The cheapest.
25/5 - why pay more for something that makes little to no difference? I might be lucky but I never have issues streaming etc
Downloading 100GB
25 Mbps = 8 Hours 53 Minutes
1000 Mbps = 13minLittle to no difference huh?
Normal people don't download 100gb at a time though. We're a family of 4 on a 25/10 plan, can run multiple video calls or video streams in HD. The only time I've wished for more bandwidth is when setting up new notebooks so I can get the patches faster. The connection at work is obviously a lot faster, but for how I use the internet there is little to no difference for me.
Normal People don't download 100gb??
Average call of duty game download size for quite a few years now has been 100GB+ which is about the most "average person" game you can get.@lordezekiel: I hate to break it to you, but the average person doesn't play PC games 🤪. Wish I still had time to. If I did, I'd definitely get a faster connection. When we had to get everyone to WFH in 2020, we had at least 2 staff out of 60 that had no internet. As far as I know, one still doesn't. Average people aren't doing very interesting, high bandwidth things!
@tz001: https://igea.net/2023/08/four-out-of-five-aussies-play-video…
81% of all Australians play video games
@Axelstrife: 36% of those play puzzle games, seems like by their definition, someone doing a sudoku on their phone is a gamer with a gaming device?
No you mean YOU dont download 100GB, Most AAA games these days are 100GB+ downloads.
Even looking only at what you're doing and ignoring your complete blindspot on what the average person does, you're getting a worse experience with your limited connection. You aren't really streaming in HD - there might be that many pixels involved, but the video is being sent with compression to fit. I can't even imagine how bad the compression would be when you only have 25mbps to work with (down to 8 if everybody is watching something). There's a fantastic video explaining how some of this works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Rp-uo6HmI
This basically means you are under-using your TV screens, monitors, phones, etc. They might be UltraMegaOLEDUHDetc, but if all they have to work with is 8mbps then all you'll be seeing is 8mbps quality. And that's assuming Windows, Apple, Dropbox, SmartFridgeThing or whatever aren't taking any of the connection, which they will be.
Game downloads can run overnight, 25 runs two video streams or workstations easy for us which is our daily maximum.
It's 2025, im not waiting 8 hours for an update.
That might of been ok 10 years ago but not today.
@Axelstrife: Agreed, our household of two, pull down 750 gig p/month on 65/20 and we don't p2p. Some light gaming, a lot of HD streaming (we don't watch free to air TV), and WFH (but files mostly offline). No one serious uses 25/5 in 2025, they just don't know how to use the internet, or are probably too busy yelling at millennials buying a coffee and avocado on toast, when they should be saving for a house like they did! insert eye roll
I mean you can make this argument about any modern convenience.
Why have a water connection when you can walk to the nearby town well?
Why have electricity when you could use candles?
Why have a washing machine when you could drag your clothes to the river and beat them on rocks?
Why use computers and the internet - just go back to postal mail, books, slide rules and manual record keeping.Almost everything we do in modern civilisation is about convenience and a better experience, and these things cost more than not having them. I imagine when electricity and town water first arrived there would have been holdouts who proudly proclaimed it was an unnecessary waste of money.
id like 1m/56k
People talking about 25/5 being sufficient are insane. Have never used higher tiers obviously.
These are the people who still watch FTA on their SD channels and say it looks good on their 75in TV.
not everyone needs more mbps …
infact I even mentioned in another thread a week or 2 ago …
1x netflix 4k stream == 25 Mbps (but can even get by with 20Mbps).[EDIT] … netflix's OFFICAL statement from their website - says 15 Mbps for a single 4k stream.
Is that Megabits per second (Mbps) or Megabytes per second (MBps)?
Might as well drive a car with a 750cc engine, you only need to be able to do up to 100 most of the time anyway right…
That's because it's compressed to crap
A lot of people are used to waiting for things to download and/or happen on the internet is what I've observed.
The same kind of people that think getting to work turning on their computer and getting a coffee while it turns on is still a thing.Once you realise you can get things almost instantly on much faster connections do you realise what a difference it makes. Then it's hard to go back.
Insanity = live a slightly different life to you.
Literally Impossible = I haven't really tried
I've used 1Gb/s up and while it's nice, I personally have no issues with 25/5 or 50/10.
For small households (2 or 1), it's plenty. We can stream 4K with it at 30fps. On YouTube, I have no issues doing 2x 1440p @60fps streams. Gaming is more reliant on ping so a wired connection is all you need.
I just download games overnight if I need to.
I have 25/10 at home, 1000/1000 at work. It makes no difference to me. Web pages load in a couple of seconds either way, each can support HD or 4k streams. It's only on the odd occasion of downloading a new file or updating a new machine that you notice the difference.
I'm 100% perfectly happy with 25/8 … infact I intentionally went for low rate plan just to save $$$.
Have my own VPS server in cloud … so alot of that stuff saves me bandwidth.
Even watching netflix == perfectly fine on 25/8.
Used to be heavy into torrents … but that box is currently out of action (needs new motherboard).how i see it you're half way there to paying 100/20 so why not go to 100/20 you can't be that tight
But then when you're at 100/20, that's over half way to 1000/50!
Personally, 25/10 is nowhere near enough for me, but people have to save money where they can.
50/20 has been fine for me and I WFH, stream, game, sail the high seas, host Plex.
IMO after 50Mbps you don't unlock any real time potential currently that makes use of the speed.
For gaming you're better off having a lower latency 25/5 NBN than 5G or the fastest starlink speeds.
Speed really only comes in to play with tasks that normally happen in the background, updates, game downloads, large files.
If you're doing that a bunch then yeah sure go for it but for the few times it actually matters for me I'm happy to save a few $ and just let those things complete in the background.
But they're not halfway there to 100/20, they're paying $60/month for 25/8
If you're paying $60p/m you're only $10 off 100/20
Getting a good deal on something you don't need isn't a good deal
And how much is this VPS that saves you money?
what ever maccas offers
1000/50
For most households 100\40 would be ample, unless they're heavily torrenting or gaming. That much bandwidth is enough for downloading four 4k video streams at once, or a mix of other data.
You do need to allow a tolerance for speed fluctuations however, which is where things go pear-shaped - our 100\20 NBN can be up to 105\35 at times but regularly drops to 5\1 or less in peak periods, so presumably we all need roughly ten times our peak speed demand to ensure no outages or unusable connections. Therefore a plan of 1000\50 is about right for an average family of 4 today, even though they never need that much, only the spare overhead to minimise the appalling NBN congestion.What connection type do you have? I've never had congestion issues on FTTP (Aussie Broadband and Superloop)
If you're dropping to 5/1, you should look at changing provider. Some level of dropoff is acceptable…not that.
5/1 is a serious line fault or RSP issue that needs adressing.
Symmetric.
Ah, a 64/64kbps ISDN connoisseur i see.
Yeah, 1000/1000.
Not even sure 100/40 is even staying around for the next WBA (Wholesale Broadband Agreement) pricelist given 100/20 is being uplifted to 500/50. The whole purpose of the plan would be lost, and I don't think they'd be willing to bump it to 500/100 for business and technical reasons.
250/25 is also going to 750/50, and the 1000/50 is being bumped to 1000/100 (although again with a "up-to" clause because HFC is a dud)
the question is will RSP's bump it automatically
What does "HFC is a dud" mean?
That's what i'm on and my 1000/50 plan runs basically max speed all the time.
Would assume if you can do 1000 down then you can do 1000 up? (as far as the line itself is concerned)Would assume if you can do 1000 down then you can do 1000 up?
1000 up is riding up right against the theoretical limits of docsis 3.1, and I'm not sure if they've reconfigured all of the segments to get rid of the 3.0 channels yet.
They don't even allow the business plans like 1000/400 on HFC, since the shared spectrum nature (well, FTTP is shared too, just that it's like 24 on a segment as opposed to like 200 on HFC, and they have the benefit of actual optics)
In relation to download, there will be a change implemented on the first of May.
Until now, HFC services have been subject to a Layer 2 network management configuration that applied a maximum sustained information rate (MSIR) of 750Mbps.
“When the [up to gigabit speed] product was first made available to customers connected to the NBN network via HFC in 2020, a performance constraint was built into the HFC network to help manage capacity.
“And, as a result, the Wholesale Broadband Agreement (WBA5) product description specifies the HFC product as delivering a maximum sustained information rate of 750Mbps with the potential to burst up to a maximum of 970Mbps, at potential burst durations between 1-50 seconds at least once a day.
“Home Ultrafast customers [on HFC] will enjoy consistently faster speeds, rather than the fluctuation between sustained information rate of around 750 Mbps and short-term potential burst speeds of up to 970Mbps.”
@apptrack: Weird, my HFC connection has been running at about 950/45mbps (average speedtest website results) ever since i upped my plan to the 1000/50 speed over a year ago… just downloaded WarCraft Battlechest at a little over 100MB/s.
@Namidairo: Wow i must have timed it pretty well then to switch from a 100/20 to a 1000/50 plan, only got it connected like 2 weeks before 1st may 2024, and it would have taken me a few weeks to upgrade my switches and stuff at home to be gigabit capable before i could have run my first full speed speedtest!
It is staying around. And it's still a business plan by NBN standards.
Sad isn't it?Like someone else said, it's just whether the RSP will abolish it and just have the 500/50 tier instead.
250/100 is my preference, but only because I transfer a lot of files offsite and have a homelab.
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