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XFX Swift Radeon RX 9070 XT Dual Fan Gaming Edition (Boost: 2970MHz), 16GB GDDR6 (20Gbps), 256-bit, PCI-E 4.0 x16, 3x DisplayPort 2.1, 1x HDMI 2.1, FSR Technology
In case you've missed this deal
Did this have a price drop? I don't remember it being one of the MSRP models..
Nah, this should be the MSRP card.
cant even find it on the xfx website, can only see 3 fan models https://www.xfxforce.com/gpu/amd-radeon-rx-9000-series
I dont need it I dont need it I dont need it…..
But since you posted this comment you have come back and checked this page 10 times now (I mean me
800W minimum power. I have 750W. Boooo. I would have grabbed one.
You'll almost certainly be fine with a 750W, unless your CPU is particularly power hungry and your PSU is particularly crap.
i have 750w w/ 14600k, not feeling upgrade needed.
Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Aigo GB750 80+ Bronze.
Aigo GB750 80+ Bronze
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Aigo?
AIGO?!
My friend, you don't need a GPU upgrade, you need a power supply upgrade.
Please get rid of the Aigo unit ASAP. They are known for burning down. Aliexpress is known for many things but reliable power supplies for PCs is NOT one of them.
See this video for more information:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h6kUNlC6cs
wtf is that brand
Me sitting here with 650w……..maybe i can get one
Possibly. I use a 300W card with a quality 600W PSU. That's getting borderline though depending on the system.
How about a CX650M from corsair. Its been powering a 220w 1070ti and 100w 5700x3d for the past 7 years. Probably running 450w peak consistent load. If im running cpu heavy and gpu at the same time.
@Madtrack133: I'd imagine you would be fine.
Worst case, you can always apply a 220w power limit on the new card. Combined with an undervolt and mem oc you'd probably lose little if any performance.
The GPU will draw 300 ish, 800 is a high estimate.
Check peak power output, which is higher than max power output but obviously more bursty than sustained.
The minimum doesn't mean anything. As long as it's a well rated PSU and you're not running some insane OC'd intel CPU you'll probably be fine with anything above 650w or so.
Those minimum power requirements are a bit rubbish. All cards released since Intel 14th gen have crazy requirements due to 14900kf guzzling 300+W when OCed.
use any PSU calculator out there, eg: https://au.msi.com/power-supply-calculator/
I got a Ryzen 5600 and only need minimum 450W PSU with 9070 XT.
You'll be fine with a 600W
The 800W is for poorly designed Intel CPU's like 14900KS
https://www.coolermaster.com/en-au/power-supply-calculator/
7800X3D + 9070XT = 600W
Go 650W if want to be super safe
Anyone have any experiences with 2 fan design cards? I've only ever had 3 fan cards
This is even larger than many triple fans cards like Reaper
In fairness the reaper is small for a 3 fan card. The reaper is even smaller than the RX6800 it replaced for me and that was sitting in a mini itx.
It's not small in comparison with old gen cards.
Should be fine with that big chunky cooler.
But it's also stupid because it's longer (290mm) and fatter (2.5 slots) than the 3 fan Powercolor Reaper model (289mm + 2 slots)
I'd love a 250mm length card for a future SFF build
does this run hot due to only having 2 fans compared to 3?
Hot VRAM but cool core
Look at the dimensions and you'll find it's larger than many 3 fans cards
Holding for Sub $1000AUD 9070XT's
There could be something around EOFY but those sales would be on higher models so would likely not dip below 1k.
Given the tariff situation and the fact that these are new, I don’t this will happen even then
Will tariff even affect us if we're importing from south east asia?
If anything, it'll likely increase chances of price drop as there will be less demand in USA
Many companies will use the USA Traffis to increase Prices globally, sometimes to subsidize the price in the USA because how a company/brand looks in the USA is more important than elsewhere, especially for shareholders, investors etc etc
1139 is MSRP so you might be waiting until the next generation
I only know that it is $600USD MSRP. Is this the actual reported MSRP for Australia? (I assume it's the usual markup to ship them here, import fees, etc.)
Since AMD doesn't have an official site directly for Australia market and they dont have the stock model either (only AIB), we could only assume that msrp is the cheapest one on release date, which is 1139$.
Now we look at Nvidia, they have an official pricing aud msrp. Take 5070, it's 1109 (https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/graphics-cards/50-serie…). However it was reported that Aussie won't get any stock model for 50xx family (same with 40xx iirc), so starting price for AIB always higher than this.
We have the 599 USD to 1139 AUD for 9070 XT, and 549 USD to 1109 AUD for rtx 5070. So purely on currency conversion, 9070 XT is a better deal. Is it worth that money base on the card itself, each to your own. IMO it's not, but base on market situation the pricing is understandable.
Given the shortage and future batches not including a rebate, I doubt any time soon. Happy to be wrong, GPU's are too expensive.
ebayPlus 15% off usually comes mid year, would bring under $1k.
Depends if bestie Jack decides to pop up
The same GPUs on eBay are really overpriced. Even with the 15% off you're paying more than MSRP + $200
thank you XFX
I'm surprised there's not a 1 person per household cap on this
This or stay with my 4070 Ti Super?
I'd stay. That's still a great card and competes well against 9070xt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOCVdGBvdHw&ab_channel=Pixel…
what? 4070ti s is better then this card - lol - even more so when you turn on RT
what kind of a question is this
Unsure of why neg comments a 4070tiS is essentially the same card in rasta and better at RT and has DLSS which is still better even with the upgrades to FSR.
@hessels92: fanbois? no idea, not to mention 4070tis runs cooler and quieter as well, less power - dlss4 is still better then fsr4, and Nvidia is still better at VR - I cant find one reason but Current pricing to buy amd over 4070tis
@botchie: Well you can't really buy a 4070 Ti Super anymore, but OP shouldn't consider upgrading from one in either case. In the current market, the 9070 XT is the best value for money right now in this performance class (5070 $1110+, 5070 Ti $1600+).
Cooler quality varies too much to make such broad statements about temperature and/or noise.
@tmr3: I'm not dissing amd at all, but if I had a choice of this card of 4070tis I would definitely go with NVIDIA , and they were this price late last year .
If the guy has NVIDIA and is asking to upgrade he's either trolling or has no clue about GPUs, in either case a quick google will give him the answer
@drazenm: mate, sorry if I offended but you have a very good card - you should know where it sits - its not a cheap one, it cost you well over $1k, so i cant see how you know what you are talking about - you dont get educated on ozbargain
9070XT is:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-9070-xt-mer…
6-10% faster in raster
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-9070-xt-mer…
3-4% slower in RT
Are there DLSS/FSR comparisons?
Hard to do fair performance comparisons between DLSS/FSR as image quality differs, so I don't think any review outlets directly compare them? On the other hand you could make both cards run FSR, but nobody with an Nvidia card is gonna do that in the real world when DLSS is an option, so the numbers would be meaningless.
But if you just want to see representative real world performance in a particular game then I'm sure some YouTube videos will have you covered.
Hardware Unboxed on youtube, your local Aussie reviewers
Please never post tech power up again the numbers don't represent real world. You are sowing how little you know by sharing.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2961-amd-radeon-9070-xt/
Identical performance at 1440p across 18 games
RT loses by 18% in 6 games
This card if bought at MSRP $1139 is a good buy at the moment if you need to upgrade for price to $ thats it end of
Not gonna deny consulting multiple sources is a good thing :) So here's a roundup across reviews from 14 media outlets (including HUB/TS) that someone compiled: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1j7fckq/geforce_r…
~8-10% faster in raster
~7% slower in RT
Stick with your card, only consider this card at current pricing as cost per frame its much better. In a head to head not worrying about $ 4070ti S is a better card
I've sold my 4070TiS and bought 9070XT. This performs much better on the games I play, also I like the sharpening effect and the colour presets on Radeons
Alright Mr Cod ;)
What you have is plenty, the upgrade would be minimal for the coin.
Stick with it.
Son just bought the previous gen 24 GB 7090XTX from Scorptec because he reckons it will outperform the 9070 (he also went all out with Sapphire). I hope he is right because he paid a fair bit more than this.
as an aside, Scorptec delivery would be outrun by a glacier! It even uses AusPost!
pretty sure xtx is better but doesnt have fsr4, which I hope they will bring in
Thanks all for replies, I appreciate it, will stick with my 4070 Ti super. eh, also gotta look now for a BYO GPU build and prices are crazy, I'd like to get the 7800x3d but I'm leaning more towards 7500F as I honestly can't justify the $600 difference in price as I saw here some BYO GPU builds from Nebula.
I only use 1 monitor, it's 4k 144Hz, and I don't multitask that much. If I play I play, if i browse i browse, same with apps and I don't need 10 things running at once or all kind of social media apps or live streaming, mostly play single player, campaign games. If I stream i only stream from desktop to laptop with moonlight, playing in another room on local network etc.
Tiz funny XFX completely dropped the ball on the marketing side, idk if anyone saw the stories about incorrect specs. But also on the product page says its a chiplet design, someone copy pasting RDNA info and rename RDNA 3>4 lol.
Good deal though msrp card surprised its still in stock!! Basically a 7900xtx with less ram but better raytracing performance.
minimum PSU says 800W… I've got a 650W PSU running a 5700X3D and a 7800XT, should I be upgrading my PSU too?
I don't think so. The card itself will draw around 310w according to some reviews.
Your CPU usage during gaming might be 20%, so probably using 60w or so there, even if fully loaded it uses around 100w. Rest of the system probably around 100w.
Some partner 9070 XT's have the higher limit of around 360W. And the 5700X3D will happily pull well over 100W is you haven't dropped the max draw (you should to stay under 80C to avoid drops in clocks), though that's unlikely in gaming as you say. But technically that combo plus 100W for the rest of the system could draw 600W. A 650W PSU is really cutting it fine and asking for something to go wrong. But you could easily address this by lowering not only CPU power draw, but also GPU power draw. For every 3% you drop GPU power you only lose about 1% FPS. They already did this with the efficiency focused non-XT.
The 800W is for people with Intel CPUs, though 650 would be pretty close to the limit, and from my limited understanding of how PSUs supply power, when you push them to their limits, they might not deliver stable power, which can cause issues for GPUs and CPUs.
Got one thanks. Great for SFF case.
That's not small enough for most SFF cases actually
it fits NR200, which is many ppl 1st sff case (including me). For many SFF enthusiasts they hate that one though xD
Is it worth upgrading from 7800XT?
Depends on the games you're playing
Sometime it's only 20% better, other times it's 70%
https://youtu.be/NQFP9ETxAXs?si=ad2J9U0A8cxcI61R&t=1013
If that's worth the $1k - 7800XT second hand sell price
Looks like they're still selling for $700 which is crazy to me
https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=7800+xt&_sacat=0&_fr…
is this better than the linked deal for the $1049 ASRock Radeon RX 9070?
Yes this is a higher model card the XT variant better in every way. Just a 2 fan design which isn't as desired.
Will run slightly hotter and louder but not enough to cause issues.
Yes, I think old mate meant the white 3 fan XT, but copied the wrong link.
Pulled the trigger. (profanity) Scorptec for trying to charge for shipping "insurance" though. What scumbags.
Dual fan, I will pass
I'm clueless guys. Think of your grandparents, I'm their age and my knowledge ended at Commodore 64.
My wife has a Ryzen 9 5950x and a ROG STRIX X-570E that we paid a fortune for years ago. It was back in the height of high pricing and we never did buy a GPU. We got away for some $100 monstrosity so it never matched. Circumstances have changed and we need to get onboard the GPU train. What's the right card for her (she now pushes it pretty hard as she is a design pro) Would this GPU be a good option? ty.
Hold your horses. They do mention this is for design, not gameplay.
I think you would be better off with some NVidia card as they are generally better in productivity and have Studio drivers optimized for creative software.
Do you know which software she uses?
Thanks mate. All advice I'm getting is awesome, I actually really need it because this GPU issue is stressing me out a bit, want to do the right thing by the wife but when I research online I just drown in info that I don't understand.
Design primarily absolutely. The gaming angle comes in with my kids aged between 7 and 12. There isn't really another gaming type potential PC in the house.
Software she uses is the Adobe Suite, Blender, she had a look at UnReal development tools. She is a teacher of Digital Media Design at TAFE and an artist, a graphic designer specialist. The reason we have gotten away with a SUPER crappy GPU for so long now is she probably doesn't feel she needed a home PC to be her workhorse. That's changing as she moves to facilitating some night classes from home. She has mentioned to me a few times update our GPU. Said it enough now to have me move on it now.
You have helped plenty. Based on what I have said what do you think would be the bees knees of GPUs based on her needs, a 5950x and a ROG STRIX X-570E. 64GB DDR4 RAM..Thanks again. 🙂
For what use? This is a high end GPU, are you high end gaming?
If you want it for work, get an Nvidea, better support and development.
Just left a long answer above that gets real specific. Any particular model you recommend based on my new comments above? REALLY appreciate the advice of people like yourself. Thank you!
If your wife isn't doing much gaming, I reckon going with Nvidia gpu. Maybe now it's different, but I know many applications work better with Nvidia driver than AMD. In any case, if you gonna spend ~ 1 grand for a gpu, better do research with your specific interest rather than taking general advice from Oz forum. We here tends to focus on gaming aspect and performance/price over anything else, therefore it may not match your needs.
Any further comments based on my long new post above? Appreciate your support very, very much.
Since you mentioned design primarily with Adobe and Blender, totally Nvidia gpu as others suggest. About the specific model, mostly depends on your budget. I think 70/70ti models for both 40xx and 50xx generations are good, 60/60Ti is kinda stingy (and your wife getting the 1st gpu after a long while), while 80/80s/80Ti are overpriced IMO.
That will cost you around ~800 AUD for 4070 to ~1300 for 5070Ti, these are brand new gpu price. Ofc you can get better deal with 2nd hand gpu, but since you aren't familiar with the market I only suggest to do so when u have friends/relatives that can help you with it.
As others have suggested, for productivity software the support for AMD hardware is catching up but is not supported in many cases.
This is a good source for information
https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/video-editing-worksta…
I would suggest this would suit your needs better,
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-…
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/open-box-sale-msi-gef…
Legend! Thankyou! I'll read these links tonight no doubt it'll set us on the right path thank you so much.
OOS!
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Don't know if a dual fan GPU will do well in a mini-ITX build. Definitely safer with a 3 fan.
For those saying 2 fans isn't enough, the chips are running cool but mem isn't. You would be able to keep it cool, but maybe not quiet.
2 x 100 mm fans is only 18% less fan area than 3 x 90 mm fans. And whilst they would have to work a little harder to cool the same amount, larger fans tend to run quieter for the same performance. So the difference isn't as big as it may seem (e.g. it's not a 33% drop in cooling).
Cheers, got one!