Do ALDI Staff Lack Training?

I spend lots of money at Aldi, so I think this qualifies me to ask the question (or make the criticism), do Aldi staff lack training? Or are there other factors at play? (eg Do they employ a certain type of person or is there a culture of not being motivated with regards to customer service?)

I had to return a whipper snipper as it stopped working completely. I was reasonably happy with the unit when it did work, but the manufacturer said they do not do repairs, and the only option is to return the unit to Aldi for a refund.

I line up at a checkout (with shopping trolley containing all the components & attachments), and when I get there, the checkout lady looks at the docket for about 2 minutes, before talking into her headpiece to call her supervisor, as she said she cannot process a refund greater than $100 on her own. (The total was $149). The lady has been working there for about 3 years, but I can work with that.

So she asked me to move out of the way, and then I wait 5 minutes for the supervisor to arrive. She has to call him a second time to get him to actually arrive.

When he arrives, I give him the purchase receipt. He looks at it and asks when I purchased it. As odd as this sounded, I went along with this, took the receipt back from him, and read the purchase date from the receipt to him. (out of interest, the date was 12/1/2023, and beneath this the warranty was shown as being 5 years). I read the date to him wondering why he could not read this himself???

He then leaves for the office with my receipt and closes the door - I wait for 5 minutes. He comes out and says on this occasion they will do a refund. This is puzzling to me, as he says this like he is doing me a favor. What other option was there?

The supervisor walks off. I then have to wait to get to a cashier again, seems I lost my place in the queue.

The checkout lady is unable to process the refund, so she has to ask another checkout lady who also does not know, so they have to call the supervisor back.

It was eventually sorted out, but what a terrible experience.

I am tempted to make a complaint, but I don't think this would achieve anything.

I have to say, it is unlikely this would happen at Coles or Woolworths or Bunnings. This seems to be unique to Aldi.

Sure they don't always drop the ball, and there are staff members that would have some working knowledge, but this is not the first time I have experienced issues with refunds.

Regularly I have been told that a product did not come in or has sold out, and I then find it out there is stock in store or that there is stock in their store room. I am not sure if this is a result of their skill set or care factor.

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  • +84

    You have 1 bad experience with Aldi and you question their entire training policy?

    You had a faulty product and managed to get a full refund after having to wait 30 minutes. I'd consider that a win over having to have the item repaired.

    • +13

      All that stuff in the centre isle is rubbish.
      Especially electrically or battery powered things like TVs, computers, power tools etc
      They are a once-off on-sale item with no service or parts pack-up.
      Usually no replacement stock either if for a warranty claim.
      Fool be anyone that doesnt realise this and buys this rubbish only to find they are stuck high and dry one day as OP did.

      Just stick to the grocery items in Aldi (when they are actually available) and you should be fine.

      Aldi staff dont need any further training than to stack shelves, scan bar codes and occassionally process refunds.

      Oh yes, they do need training on rotating fresh food stock and removing out of date food items as Im always finding out of date or close to out of date stuff on sale - especially in the fridges

      But I do agree with OP that Customer service does not exist in Aldi.and they have a "dont care" attitude.

      • +1

        All that stuff in the centre isle is rubbish.

        All these replies to the top thread are rubbish.

        FTFY.

      • -2

        It might be rubbish. But at least it comes with reliable warranty and Aussie Consumer Law protection.

        Just from that it's better than AliExpress / Temu, who may not even charge the correct GST (based on the original price, not the payable price after discounts etc.)

      • +4

        Coles and Woolworths staff also need training on rotating stock in my experience. Last week we had a note in the book because the manager found hard cheese nearly a month out of date

    • No, it is an ongoing experience. Not always bad, but regularly below what I think is acceptable.

      • +3

        Rather simple if you dont like the service dont go there.

        But i personally wouldnt even consider buying a whipper snipper from a grocery store those its a basically one off items and parts if you need them might be hard to track down online.

        • Why can’t I provide feedback as a customer? You think these stores don’t care about feedback?

      • -1

        Aldi's slogan is …

        "Good - Different"

        They actually advertise that they are different

        So dont compare what you think is acceptable with Aldi because they ARE different
        But I do agree - not in a good way

        • +5

          OP using therm 'what I think is acceptable' is the most entitled sentence I've read here in a long while.It smacks of classist ideology. It's lord and manner stuff.Certainly not what I would say is a locally grown "fair go" ethos.

          • +5

            @Protractor: I used to have the fair go attitude until my super chill islander hairdresser was complaining about McDonald's messing his order up.

            I tried to play devil's advocate and he just asked me how I'd feel about him giving me the wrong haircut or making a mistake. He expanded on this with words to the effect of: "I'm not a wealthy man, I provide a basic service, and I'm not allowed to make mistakes or do a poor job of it without people being really upset over their appearance, and we don't openly hold vanity as one of our fundamental values as a people."

            It hit me pretty hard, I've been pretty diligent in reviewing everything I do for errors since then and have really adopted a measure twice, cut once approach to everything I do.

            He was absolutely right then, and still is. Poor service, sloppy work and general inattentiveness are unacceptable attributes to be shown by people who get to live and work in one of the most comfortable societies in the world. "Minimum wage minimum effort" attitude belongs in countries where the minimum wage is not remotely liveable.

            OP is also absolutely right, this is pretty abysmal. He or she was merely trying to exercise a statutory right and the staff were so poorly trained it served as a road block to exercising a right.

            • @Assburg: You're dreaming.And funny in a kind of unsettling way.(And I have a bit of a clue as to why you chose to bring a hairdressers ethnicity into the room.)
              But I find absolutism X idealism rather cute, nonetheless.

          • @Protractor: I think it is an interesting thought why we get so pissed off in these situations. Think it is because ultimately we know we have no power. Other than being unpleasant there is no real justice or recourse. They can be unpleasant to you, you can be unpleasant to them, but that's it. You'll be back cause of the deals and even if you didn't or went to a different ALDI it would make no difference to the people who were unpleasant to you. Ideally you'd just go to a place they treat you right and save yourself the hassle, and I think the realisation that you'd let yourself be treated a lot worse to not be charged marginally more hurts quite a bit.

            • +2

              @bp2000: You have a pretty inflated view of justice. This was a delay in a minor shopping resolution.The biggest whinge here is the usual one. Ppl did not drop everything to deal with me.I'm special The OP got what they wanted eventually and nobody died.Or went to jail, or lost their autonomy.I don't think most ppl have the patience to follow a principled path these days. Ppl forget that the staff are humans not automatons or servants.It's even worse for govt workers. Ppl think they own them

              • @Protractor:

                Ppl did not drop everything to deal with me.I'm special

                I didn't really read the OP as saying this. I read it as the staff were totally unaware of what should be a basic process. Surely stuff gets returned all the time, and they shouldn't need to make multiple calls and deal with supervisory level staff who cannot read information off receipts to have these processes followed.

                The story wasn't about one big failure, it was a rolling series of incompetence, which would gradually get more and more frustrating to deal with.

                • @rumblytangara: OP is a regular ALDI shopper and( goods returner at Aldi) ,so self inflicted and maybe very unlucky or very clumsy,, or uses warranty periods to cycle through equipment.

                  This is a big deal about nothing unless (as usual) the deciding factors have been left aside for (1) a good story or (2) reinforce the narrative.

                  Rolling series of incompetence? What? Based on one long winded ,one sided diatribe?

    • Go to a different Aldi with more staff and a Supervisor/Manager who also helps at the checkout counter when it's busy.

      Also, go Bunnings if you also want customer service.

      • +2

        This.
        Each individual Aldi has it's own culture, much like other smaller staffed stores. They are understaffed and made to do every job in the store and that's why we get cheaper groceries. I have noticed at my two local Aldi's that the service is night and day compared to one another.

      • +2

        Bunnings - customer service? They always seem like they are trying to play hide n seek with me all the time.

      • +1

        If you can find staff.

    • Agree. OP lacks training.

    • +33

      The point of a TL;DR is because we don’t want to read a paragraph

      • +9

        GPT, please 5-word summary for the truly lazy?

        "Aldi staff struggle with refunds."

        • +10

          Funny, my AI just came back with one word. 'Karen'.

        • +1

          What is this a tl:dr; for ants?

  • +24

    This is some high end boomer complaining.

    • +12

      High end boomers wouldn't be whipper snippering themselves, they'd be paying someone else to do it.

      • High end level of complaining.

        Otherwise i would go further and say that a wealthy boomer would not shop at aldi to begin with.

        • +2

          They wouldn't. They would have someone do their shopping for them.

        • Some insights that might educate you.

          They could be rich because they do shop at Aldi.
          Maybe the Manager didnt like the OP because they thought they were a Boomer and they also believe Boomers are the source of all evil ala El Cheapo
          Could be that OP's first name is Karen and the Manager is an Ozbargain regular.
          Maybe Manager was rostered off and had to come in because a staff member who looks like the OP had pulled a sickie.
          Maybe the Manager has had a recent fight with their next door neighbour who Whipper Snippers on Sunday at 3am
          The Manager was attracted to the OP, and just wanted look at them thru the CCTV for a bit longer
          None of the above…. its all a figment of your obsession

          • @RockyRaccoon: TPG customer complain about TPG customer service.

            • @skillet: I have been with TPG for over 20 years and have had excellent service.

          • -2

            @RockyRaccoon:

            they also believe Boomers are the source of all evil ala El Cheapo

            Struck a cord did we?

            Never said or implied that, but i believe we found another one 😂

  • +9

    🎻

    • +7

      I don't think that will trim grass edges very well either
      .

  • +26

    All I got from that post was you got free use of whipper snipper for over a year and still aren't happy.

    • -2

      Yeah this is why the cost of doing business in Australia is soooo high

      • +3

        Aldi manager could have also sent the unit off fo have it assessed by the manufacturer to determine that the unit suffered a fault suitable for a warranty claim first. Seems they should be happy they just refunded you then.on the spot.

        • They just charge it back to the supplier, seems like everyone thinks Aldi is doing the guy a favour.

          Aldi supplier don’t do repair and it cost Aldi to deal with them. There fore they do a refund and a charge back.

          • +1

            @spc12go: Sorry but you are incorrect.

            I have had both a bike camera and walkie-talkie set repaired. Both times were very simple, provided a free postage label to send them in and they were returned promptly.

            • @mattmel96: Nope I had my stuff refunded. Call the supplier they said nope they don’t repair. I had my eletric saw, bug zapper, speakers and eletric tooth brushes (twice) refunded. You’d all the customer support they are just a small importer and tell you to take it back to Aldi.

              Call Aldi customer care and they don’t have a clue what to do except take it back to the store.

      • +1

        The cost will be passed back to the manufacturer.
        If that's a problem, they can either make stuff that lasts for at least the stated warranty period or shorten the warranty period.

  • +15

    Goes for a refund, is amused because a check out chick carefully reads the receipt rather than just immediately hand money over.

    Then he is shocked she can’t override a refund limit.

    Then he is shocked her manager (who evidently was busy) isn’t too interested in reading a receipt carefully to locate the date.

    He comes out and says on this occasion they will do a refund. This is puzzling to me, as he says this like he is doing me a favor. What other option was there?

    To leave you waiting out there while he actually ascertains whether or not they are cleared to refund that item - which is unlikely he did, as 5 mins is a short time frame to check those details on a random item they sold 2 years ago.

    The supervisor walks off. I then have to wait to get to a cashier again, seems I lost my place in the queue.

    The horror.

    The checkout lady is unable to process the refund, so she has to ask another checkout lady who also does not know, so they have to call the supervisor back.

    You are surprised two check out ladies don’t know how to refund an item over the standard refund limit?

    Its hardly an every day exercise that someone tries returning a two year old whipper snipper.

    The end result is a good one, yet you are disappointed because it wasn’t resolved in a way you think was right?

  • +3

    'Do ALDI Staff Lack Training?"

    Some, but almost all the customers need training.Per capita the rudest,most arrogant and loud Karens are Aldi shoppers.

  • +1

    boomer doing boomer things

    • +1

      boomer things

      like whipper snippering? like expecting products to last the stated warranty period? to be fair, boomers grew up in a time when whitegoods for example would last 20+ years

  • +5

    In England all the Aldis I went to were ran like dirty warehouses. They didn't stack shelves, they brought out a pile of pallets of things on a pallet jack truck and when the top layer was emptied just take the top empty pallet off. Even in Germany from what I saw they operated like this, though I only visited one there. I think Aldi has "Australianised" Aldi for us, with clean shelves, things stacked into those big shelves in the middle for special buys, everything all neat and proper. That's not what Aldi is at its core though. A manager eagerly processing a warranty claim for you is not in Aldi's DNA.

    • +1

      When did you see that? Aldi was like that when it first came to Aus. My local was like that

      • +1

        Yeah I remember reading an article that Australian shoppers didn't take to Aldi at first because it wasn't like Colesworth. So they changed it to suit Australian tastes. We are probably paying a little more for the products for it. It's probably worth it tbh, for a store to be clean and orderly it can't cost that much extra.

      • +1

        yeah, low level lighting, BYO bags or grab an empty box from the shelf, super long ques going half way down each aisle.

    • That was my experience as well in a few European countries.

      The one I went to in Berlin though was amazing and even had a bakery with freshly baked bread, rolls, pastries etc that you could buy individually

  • +1

    I'll play.

    On the fact situation, the manufacturer advised you to approach Aldi for a refund.

    As you didn't ask the Supervisor for a refund, is it possible they thought you might want to exchange the item?

    Maybe they phoned the manufacturer or checked floor stock and finding nothing suitable in storage said "on this occasion they will do a refund" because that was the only option left.

    As far as Out of Stocks, use the https://www.stockcheck.aldi.com.au to check Stock Levels.

  • +1

    moral of the story
    stick to cheap stuff at aldi below 100 bucks
    get refund instantly

    • -5

      But I rarely go to ALDI for cheap stuff, just big-ticket promo items like TV, washing machine and e-Bike. Sometimes they are excellent value.
      But it is obvious they are not as well staffed as Colesworth. OP has a valid, if long-winded, point.

      • +3

        Partially vaid perhaps.
        Aldis prices are low because they don't wrap customers in cotton wool.It's a bare bones operation. They don't try to hide it.
        Minimum staff means they are busy and multi tasking. Stress levels can get pretty high at times for staff.
        Basically late additions like shopping baskets,check out scans etc only came about by social media bullying and Kareniitis.The more ppl demand of Aldi the higher the prices will go.

        If you need your hand held, Aldi is not for you.
        Ppl will dicover that a lot of the middle aisle stuff is real junk.It's up to customers to do some homework before buying.
        I rarely bother with any of the chinese crap in the special buys any more, unless it has a purpose for me (not FOMO) and it has a long standing proven design and features with decent reviews.

  • +4

    The staff at my local Aldi are awesome. Overworked but awesome. They also have a no fuss return policy. Certainly helps when buying a lot of the discount imported cr4p from their Special Buys. No risk.

  • Sure you'll get better service at Coles or Woolies but what of thier stores would stock anything like a line trimmer or anything else worth more than $60 (olive oil).

  • +1

    Literally saw this poor effort to clean up a spill the other day.

    https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/88313/119933/screensho…

    • Busy day?

      • Nope. About midday.

        • -3

          I mean, were YOU having a busy day?. Why would you feel the need to take that picture?
          Insurance? Social media? Testing the new phone?

          • +1

            @Protractor: It is actually a new phone. Just thought it was funny.

            Took like 5 seconds out of my day and I'm saving time with the self checkout.

        • +2

          Not as busy less staff working. Next time in Aldi look around how many workers are standing around doing nothing? Pretty rare they always look busy to me.

    • What a waste. Do they not have a mop because they have a contract cleaning service?

      • Being near the fridges i would say there is actually a ongoing problem there.(Refrigeration maintenance required). Mop it up and 30 minutes later it its back again. Aldi with low staff levels the staff member most likely has been called to the registers Every minute of staff wages in Aldi is linked to turn over middle of the day less staff.

        • Just imagine if OP was demanding their attention and the staff were busy dealing with the spill. 2 threads for the price of one.
          You can please some of the ppl, some of the time, but……….

    • Refrigeration leak? that leak will be ongoing a Refrigeration company would have been called.

  • +1

    If only they had an internal RTO and the govt paid them millions in taxpayer dollars to train their staff in some really important certificate like a cert 3 in retail/hospitality like we pay McDonald’s, Grill’d and pub chains to do. MILLIONS

  • Never had an issue with refunds personally.

    However, the stock issue with special buys can be frustrating. Product delays are one thing, but especially when you're after a particular item and it says it's in stock online yet the person in store at the checkout (that you have to wait in line I talk to) tells you it's not, because they can't be bothered checking out the back and nobody has put it on display yet.

    What happened to "Stack 'em high, watch 'em fly"?

  • Buy a whipper snipper from Woolies and try and return it to compare experiences.

    Oh wait

  • +2

    The same people dishing the OP will be the same people bitching when something happens to them. Typical OZB.

    • So true, and its the same bored late night cowboys who need to post something believing they can influence the world.

  • Yes

  • +2

    The staff in my local Aldi are all very friendly and helpful, and I have never had any issue returning something I didn't like.

  • +3

    Yes, they probably lack training. Yes, all their perishable items are short dated. Yes, their fruit and vegetables aren’t very fresh. Yes, most Aldi products are only 80% as good as their brand name equivalents. Yes, Aldi shopping is a pretty poor experience. We all know this, yet we still shop there. So :shrugs:

  • +1

    why did YOU allow yourself to be treated like that without out calling it out?

  • I keep my expectations low with any retail outlets. Otherwise I only ever get disappointed.

    In your case though, you got a refund for a faulty unit, even if the experience was less than stellar. A win.

  • From their FAQ:

    How do I get a product repaired or replaced?
    If your product is covered by a manufacturer's warranty, you may be entitled to a product repair or replacement. For the quickest solution, please contact the product manufacturer. You can find this information on the product packaging or the warranty card.

    For more information on product warranty please refer to the warranty certificate or product information plate.

    What did the warranty card say to do?

  • This does happen at Coles/Woolworths/Bunnings and/or any retail store to be fair…. Its a fundamental flaw of our education system to be honest. No one really knows anything about consumer law, warranties and refunds. The amount of times I've had to argue with a store to deal with my 'warranty' as they sold me the product has been INCREDIBLE! They all insist that I need to contact the manufacturer, which is not the case

  • +3

    Ok Karen you can rewrite their entire customer service process and send them the PDF

  • +1

    Tell me you're a boomer without telling me

    • +3

      Dump on Boomers? Really. I am a Boomer, and had a similar problem with a Cheap Bunnings sold Whipper Snipper - there were four bolts holding the motor to the drive shaft, and two of them had worked loose. I went online, found the parts breakdown for that model, and the part number, went to bunnings special orders, and asked to order two of those - they asked "why" - I explained - they said "bring it in and we will swap it for a new one" - It might be something that I inherited from my father (born in the depression) but that seemed wasteful, as they would bin it, and demand a full credit from the manufacturer. (about $170)

      So I carefully took out bolt #3 and took it to a "bolts are us" store, and said "can I get two of these?" - the guy said "No….. We only sell them in packs of 10". "How much for 10?" "$2.00" "Done…"

      That whipper snipper worked fine for a few years more, and I ended up giving to a young neighbour, but I suspect it has gone by now, as I said it was very reliable, but you need to change the spark plug and oil every year, and he gave me a blank stare…

      Unlike the younger generations who don't know how stuff works, Boomers, even if they don't will at least try to find out. I am almost 70, and worked in IT for almost 50 years. My 30 year old son, will try to explain technical stuff to me. I point out that I know the guy with his name on the patent, personally. Or I dig through my garage horde, and dig out some Circuit diagrams (using TTL logic) and ask him to explain how it works.

  • I had no idea those 5 year warranties were real.

    Having to waste 30 minutes of your time to get a refund seems reasonable.

  • +1

    The last time this happened to me this is what I did: on completion of step 1 (same as OP - first interaction with checkout person) I said to the cashier that this will obviously take same time to process so I will go and grab a packet of chips to consume while I wait. I enjoyed the store's chips and left after the 15 minutes of waiting around to get my refund.

    • Of course you did! Did you give them the Catholic school salute on the way out?

  • +1

    Aldi is terrible in their service. Lack of staff and very slow.

  • +2

    Aldi business model is keeping costs low so the items for sale are cheap. Part of that is minimal cost spend on staff and training. Get with the program or get gouged at Colesworth.

    • +1

      Hear, hear. Everyone wants Aldi to wear the exact same overheads as Colesworth but with cheaper prices. The Karens won't be happy till the constant whinging pumps prices up to Colesworth levels and consumers will lose again.Through higher prices or less Aldi stores going fwd, or both.

  • +5

    So your problem/issue was the refund yeah ?

    I'll tell you honestly what most likely happened.

    Its not likely that staff didn't wanted to process refund. But rather the fact their aldi changed some of their IT stuff back recently not that long ago.

    You can see it clearly from comparing your old recipt to your new receipt. Look at bottom numbers like 000 old type new type is G000 (0 is not 0 on receipt rather a number).

    Anyway the thing is that to process a refund staff need to know the barcode/PLU/SAP of the item to be able to scan at register. cause item was old one, when staff scanned it they had error like item unknown/ not found etc.

    So that is why they needed manager to get the new code for that old item, which would bring that same item name, etc. and then staff ensures price is same as receipt for a refund.

    At the end dude, trust me it's not instore staff people's fault fully, the IT system is just not that good at back. Plus staffing level in aldi is not like anywhere even close to other stores, so hence some wait.

    • Reminds me of Masters' "inventory" system (the lack thereof).

    • -1

      It is not the customer's problem that ALDI's IT system is a doghouse.

      Furthermore, why the hell do you need authorisation from the supervisor to process a refund, which simply holds up the queue?
      This doesn't happen at Bunnings (for comparison).

      • This doesn't happen at Bunnings (for comparison).

        Bunnings has a dedicated and fully staffed service counter for dealing with returns and other more specific concerns than simple sales, so no - it doesn't hold up the regular customer queue. If the refund is complex that desk queue does get a line up on busy days though. The staff at that desk are trained to deal with refunds, but even there you might get a greener staff member who needs to ask for assistance in some cases.

        Aldi in comparison is a supermarket which deliberately runs on a skeleton staff to keep overheads down. Those at the checkout can process inexpensive refunds without assistance, like for instance a customer immediately returning a grocery item which isn't up to scratch. It's not unexpected that a more expensive special buy might need careful consideration before a refund takes place.

      • +2

        Furthermore, why the hell do you need authorisation from the supervisor to process a refund, which simply holds up the queue?

        We don't normally, as I said it's most likely because of old system code being different to new system code. Which OP can clearly find out by Looking at his/her receipt at bottom, near left of date on receipt.

        But yes occasionally some new stater people do need authorisations from managers, for large $ amount items for obvious reasons.

        It is not the customer's problem that ALDI's IT system is a doghouse.

        okay…. Btw I never said it was, if that makes sense? I was just telling the reality on why op most likely had to wait.

        And yeah like above person said aldi doesn't have anywhere even close employment at a store than other companies. Think like 15-30 people only a store employed and may be like at Max 15 working in a day, or like 3-8 people in the whole store at a time.

        Also if you have a big problem then you should contact customer service directly. Then things start to run down from top if complaint is fair.

        • I wouldn't be investing much more time in fielding this saga. It's awfully petty and smacks of unreasonable expectations (entitlement) and certainly doesn't warrant a public tale of woe about 'the day I was treated like a leper'.
          Kudos for you for going in to bat.

  • +1

    No, that hasn't been my experience. All of the interactions that I've had with Aldi staff when it comes to returns have been positive. Most of the staff I've dealt with have been friendly and courteous - same as with staff at Colesworth. Saying that, you're always going to get some kind of cnut in a retail organisation - as you will in any organisation. After a bit of hassle, you got the desired outcome - I'd call that a win. Move on.

  • +1

    buys gardening power tool from a grocery store. Takes it back to grocery store when it's faulty, speaks to the manager who authorises a refund, one of the staff members needs assistance to process it properly but it gets done….

    The next step in that process is obviously post on OzB to complain about the whole thing :/

  • It has absolutely nothing with lack of training… more to do with the fact you feel you were inconvenienced by the cashier having to call her supervisor to do a refund authorisation over a certain amount. Its probably the only item you have ever returned? Any retail assistant regardless of Aldi or any grocery store, can only refund items to a certain $ amount, it’s a company policy, not an employee responsibility or accountability.

  • +1

    You're getting a lot of shit, but I think you have right to be a little annoyed.

    They do it on purpose. They do not want you returning stuff. They like to promise all this stuff.. "5 year warranty! Easy returns!" because its easy to promise things, and cheap if nobody ever calls you on it. And when time is money, most people don't bother.

    But it's not the staff, they are just mindless pawns for the most part. Personally I just mentally disconnect whenever I have to go through these types of situations, and accept it will take as long as it takes. If you feel like you have been wronged, you just make up for it later in other ways

    • +1

      But it's not the staff

      That is literally all the OP is whinging about.

      (Despite the fact he got a refund)

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