[QLD] 7kW 240V Single Phase Autel Maxicharger EV Wall Charger $434.50 (was $1098.90) in-Store Only @ Burson Auto Parts

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I have owned an EV for about 4 months (highly recommend) and have happily used the supplied granny charger, while keeping an eye out for a deal on a 7kW wall charger. This Autel Maxicharger came up in an EV group I am in and I could hardly believe it, until I went into the shop today and they confirmed it, so I purchased on the spot. No online retail store for Burson so you have to go in to your local shop or call. The deal is in their current sale emailed to members. Part number is MAXI7. Store said they had a good supply but the staff in store had no idea they even sold these until looking it up.

Is priced over $1000 everywhere else and gets good reviews (this is the full model, not the Lite). The brand is much more common in Europe and USA but willing to take a chance at this price. Minimal fancy stuff (like solar control) and only a 5m cable are the only cons I can see.

(Image attached is from the members email, $395 ex GST)

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Comments

  • +1

    How much to install though ?

    • +1

      we had an electrician install a Tesla version for $500 in 2023.

      • +1

        Mine done for $250
        Single storey in Brissy

        • +1

          Great price, who did you use?

        • +1

          Installing an EV charger is comparable to installing other high powered appliances such as ovens or induction cookers. There is no need to pay exorbitant prices for it

          • @jmel: Sparky scared of EVSE.

            • +1

              @coxymla: unfortunately, some just takes advantage of consumer not knowing better

              • +1

                @jmel: Sometimes the cost ratio plays a part as well.

                Paying $300 to install a $1,500 cooktop is 20% of the appliance.

                Paying $800 to install a $1,600 A/C is 50% of the appliance.

                So, $1,000 to install an EVSE is only 2% of a $50,000 car, suddenly it's easier to accept, plus the marketing hypes and fear of unknown from consumers, the installers try to make it sound like a specialisation only them can do and therefore command a premium.

    • cost me well over a grand recently but i live in the sticks in nsw

    • Depends if you have the cable and circuit breaker already. If not, how far do they need to run the cable…

      If the cabling is already there… connect 3 wires and 2 wall plugs…

    • Depends on your board, whether there is a large power circuit already near where you want it, and if anything else needs and upgrade to be compliant. If you want a decent idea, get a quote for your situation.

    • +16

      Ive had an EV for a few years now and would definitely NOT recommend if you dont have access to a home charger.

      Uh what? Most people get by with a trickle charger. Unless you're doing daily round trips of >100km, you don't need a home charger.

      • +6

        Lived a month on a work trip with an EV in a serviced apartment and no garage - it's easy, go to shopping centre, free charge, go to cafe, free charge, there's so many options in a city it's no problem or very little out of your way to get juiced up, either for free or in my area JOLT's are free 7kw a day and near a nice dog walk area for me.

        Home is nice, a luxury perhaps.I can get by on a 2.4kw 10amp GPO power point charger easy mode, anything higher is a nice to have.

        Own a house - prob no prob
        Apartment - strata can suck balls

    • +17

      This comment doesn't sound like someone who owns an EV.

        • Is the Batmobile a BYD or a Tesla?

    • +4

      I've had a 2024 Model 3 with a 22kw Fronius Wattpilot Go portable home charging station for over a year now and its extremely cheap to run ($22.50 for a full long range charge if paying $0.30 to Ergon and $0 if I use my excess solar). It all works amazingly well. I live in Cairns and there is heaps of free or paid chargers everywhere. I've driven round trip to Townsville multiple times and it's no problems at all. Running costs for the Tesla verse a $60-$80k petrol/diesel high end sedan is a no brainer too especially on a novated lease.

      • 22kw Fronius Wattpilot Go sounds expensive

        • Charge fast in the 3 hour free window on OVO. I think Tesla only does 11kw AC charging anyway but that’s still quite fast.

    • +2

      Agree with the first part of you comment but not the rest. If you have an EV, go on one of the EV specific plans from AGL, OVO, etc. Mine gives me FREE electricity from 11am - 2pm and 7c/kwh 12am - 6pm. This is more than enough for my needs, and with a 7kw home charger, I can put in about 20 kwh during the free period. If I only had a trickle charger, that would drop to 6kwh.

      EV fires can start even when the car isn't charging. But good advice is to stick to the reputable brands and get a proper licensed electrician to install it.

      • +2

        *12am to 6am reduced tariff

        • +1

          Sorry, yes 12am - 6am!

      • +1

        @navman I don't think you're familiar with Ergon. You can choose between Ergon or… Ergon.

    • +1

      I’ve had an EV for almost 18 months and have easily survived without a charger at home. I live in an apartment without access to a 10A wall plug. We’ve gotten by with charging at shopping centres and the occasional fast charge.

  • What's the cheapest price to get it installed?

    • +1

      It's gonna depend on heaps of variables

      • +1

        Yeah, but how cheap can it go? Are we talking $500 or $2000?

        • Standard Gen 3 charger install for me was $750. You might find an installer for a bit less, if it's a basic install. Usually they hear the word "EV charger" and the price goes up.

          Despite other commends, its convenient to have a more powerful charger than 2.2kW trickle; especially if you have solar panels you can fill during the day.

        • +21

          If you ask for an EV charger to be installed they will quote $2000

          If you ask for a 15a socket they will quote $200
          Then ask if they can do 32a instead. Will now be $350
          Then ask if they can connect and mount the charger. Will now be $500

          • @DingoBlue: Are those extra $200, $350, $500 in addition to the $2000?

            • +14

              @SeanConnery: No, it's like ordering a custom birthday cake is $200 but the same cake for a wedding is $700.

          • +2

            @DingoBlue: This was my experience and is great advice 👊🏼

        • +2

          My neighbour installed his tesla car charger outside his house next to main switch box which is beside garage. It costed him $250.
          But sometimes people randomly come and plug it in. But doesn't work for them as he said he soft locked it to make it work only for him 🤔

          • +2

            @hopper: That’s hilarious. If they can stay a whole hour without getting caught they might steal $3 of electricity.

            What a great risk/reward! (/s)

            • +1

              @WhyAmICommenting: I think you never seen people queuing at my local bunnings for free charger, I always see a min of 7 ev cars waiting on queue to charge for free. That too they get their own cable.

          • +1

            @hopper: Nothing like thinking you're a cheeky neighbour and plugging in, before realising 8 hours later your battery is now 2%

            • +6

              @dbmitch: Would be funny if someone plugged into v2g or v2g (one day) and started draining their car instead of charging.

        • Slab of beer from good ol matey who doesn't have credentials.

        • From what I’ve seen, installers on FB Marketplace usually charge around $500 for a basic install. Of course, if you need extra wiring, a longer cable run, or switchboard upgrades, it’ll cost more. But this should give people a rough idea of what to expect.

          • @ky1975: Don’t do it. Or if you do, make sure you check the stats on the cable they are running etc to be sure it’s safe, and their electrical license.

            • +1

              @WhyAmICommenting: I was just sharing info to give people an idea of what to expect, which is from $500 up.
              I’m not recommending any particular installer, and I personally don’t use people from FB Marketplace.

  • +2

    Costing me $300 but that is combined with other electrical work at the same time. From what I hear $500 is decent from a local electrician, if you use a company it could be $800+

    • +1

      Yep same with me. I was doing electrical work already and cost me $350. That was a length of about 10m from my switchboard. I wouldn't pay anything more than $500

    • +1

      my employer paid $1400 in labor in June 2023 to install an oculus at home (company car). we got ripped off. the charger was only 5 meters from the meterbox.

      • So many electricians aren't familiar so will overcharge. Realistically it is just any old appliance from a wiring perspective.

  • +8

    FYI

    If you have a tesla UMC charger, it can already do 7KW, you just need a sparky to install a 32A socket and then get a 32a plug adaptor for the UMC.

    • Yes, this is the way.
      This 32A tail is USD$80 / ~AUD$126 and does the job just fine.

      • I prefer these, 32A on 15A socket. jk
        https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/396083008101

        I checked the legality of these and Energy Safety can't do anything as they are not sold in brick and mortar store.

        • Oh my.
          D:

    • That's exactly what i have done for over 2 yrs

  • I don't have an EV but am building a new house with electrical provisioning for the EV charger. Wonder whether it's worth buying this now or wait till I actually need it in a year or two?

    • +8

      Include the bigger circuits now but I’d hold off on the charger. You can only imagine tech will get better and/or prices will drop in the next couple of years.

      • +1

        Yeah that's what I figured. The temptation of a bargain is always strong though!

    • +2

      This is where I am now (post Reno). This is easily the cheapest “brand” charger I have seen in the last 18 months. That said, if you have an EV as your second car, even this is not needed, the standard charger is fine if you do less than 50km a day. You could happily hold off for better tech.

      If you are going 2 full electric cars soon like I am planning, might be a different story.

      • +1

        Hah I'm probably the opposite. Holding off getting an EV as long as possible because I love my ICE

    • +1

      yup, dont but the charger yet…..but with some EVs now costing only $30k, you might find yourself buying one this year

    • +3

      You going down the 3-phase path since its a new build? Some new EV have deals that come with a free 7kw charger so I'd hold off.

      • Yep there's a mix of both single and 3 phase

    • +3

      Get a 3 phase 32a outlet installed where your EV charger will go. All the options then.

      • Just confirmed with my sparky that's what he installed so good to know thanks

    • +3

      I'd wait. V2G just got approved in November for Australia, wait until there's some V2G capable chargers available (and aim to get a car that supports it).

      • Great point thanks

  • Silly question… if my main switch is only 40a, and I get a 7kw charger installed, does that mean I would be nearing my power limit when it’s in use?

    • +1

      I think an electrician will know best. But most ev chargers can be set lower than 7kW if desired.

    • How you know it’s 40a?

      Probably need a load balancer…

      • +1

        It’s marked on the main switch (also a sparkie mentioned it in a previous job)

        • +2

          Your "main switch" sounds like it's actually your ELCB/RCD. It's a safety device, but can also be used as a "main switch" to turn everything off.

          AFAIK, there's no reason the electrician can't upgrade the "main switch", or even connect a second "main switch" just for your car charger.

          What may limit you is the rating of the feed-in wire that comes into your building, and the pole fuse mounted on the power pole.

          A 7kW charger will draw about 30 Amps, and with your existing house load of up to 40A, the total will be 70A in a worst-case scenario. Some houses only have a 50A feed-in and pole fuse, so if you have one of those houses, an upgrade may be needed.

          Possibly you can ring your current electricity supplier, and they may be able to tell you the how much current your feed-in can supply. Ask them "I'm considering installing an electric car charger in my house, will my network connection need an upgrade?"

          • @Russ: Thanks for the info Russ 🙏

    • +2

      Get one like the Zappi. It can be set to limit the incoming current. This means no matter what the house draws the charger will not add any load to the car that will result in over the set current you specify. It's perfect for your situation. You will be able to charge the maximum possible and not exceed demand or get an upgrade. It can be combined with solar to help optimise self consumption too if that applies.

      • Thanks will look into it 🙂

      • Can the Zappi dynamically change the current based on household usage?

        I know it can change based on Solar output, but didn't think it could with general usage.

        E.g. if I turn on my Oven (20a), will the Zappi restrict the car to 20a (totalling 40a in OP's case)? How does that work with startup current?

  • I paid $150 for my install. why everyone getting ripped

    • +1

      How far is you charger from the main switch box? Some houses have garage and main switch on opposite sides

      • +1

        right next to it, probably why the quote was cheap.

    • +2

      Because yours does not come with any RCD protection so good luck on your house not burning down.

      Try to ask for an electrical certificate of compliance, which you will never get

      • +4

        lol, a 32a rcbo is like $10 more than the nuance 16A rcbo. it's because you did't look hard enough. Also for enlightenment, RCD protection got nothing to do with burning your house and what not, it's for not electrocuting yourself to death.

          • +1

            @freeb1e4me: They said "$10 more than", not that it was $10 total.

              • +2

                @freeb1e4me: You are clueless.
                $33.33 for a 40A RCBO here
                That's 50 cents extra over the 16A model of the same series here.

                And yes, an RCBO is to protect people from electrocution. To protect houses from burning down a CB will do just fine.

                • +1

                  @team teri: Not clueless at all. Given how cheap the install was ($150) I doubt the CB offers any real protection - You and others are far too optimistic with the RCBO being used

                  To protect houses from burning down a CB will do just fine.

                  No because @Igacb08 said:

                  RCD protection got nothing to do with burning your house…

                  That’s what I call clueless

                  • @freeb1e4me: @freeb1e4me Explain how RCDs can protect against fire then? I predict you'll evade directly answering the question leaving you the clueless one.

                    • -1

                      @Keplaffintech: I’m not your personal spoon feeding machine. You can however remove the RCDs from your house and see what happens regarding fires

                      • @freeb1e4me: @freeb1e4me
                        If your house has RCDs, and they get removed (or are faulty), nothing will happen regarding fires. The CBs will take care of that.

                        If you have RCBOs, of course they will do something, since they simply are a combination of RCD and CBs into one unit. RCBOs protect both people from electrocution and wires from overheating and causing fires.

                        • @team teri: RCDs do not just protect against electric shocks but also residual current and earth faults, both of which can cause fires but thanks for your “education”.

                          • @freeb1e4me: RCD stands for Residual Current Device.

                            So yes, it will act on residual current. A current imbalance between active and neutral. Which means current is flowing somewhere other than the designed path. I.e. through a person.

                            Since humans are not a good conductor, any current flowing through you will be quite small. That's why RCDs typically trigger at 30mA. A small current in the mA to low A range won't cause a fire, but if it goes through your heart, it can kill you.

                            A large current, i.e. from a short circuit between active and neutral, or from active touching something that has been earthed (flowing back to neutral via MEN), will trigger the circuit breaker. Which in turn prevents a fire…

                            Both components are useful for different reasons. An RCBO combines them into one.

                            • @team teri:

                              A small current in the mA to low A range won't cause a fire…

                              Therefore the absence of an RCD for a device that has a significant residual current leak will cause a fire, which contradicts your comment below:

                              If your house has RCDs, and they get removed (or are faulty), nothing will happen regarding fires.

                              I await your apology

                      • @freeb1e4me: heh, I knew you wouldn't answer the question. Clueless as evidenced by you mixing up RCD and RCBO which are different things

                        • @Keplaffintech: No mixing up at all 😉. I wish someone (team teri) hadn’t spoon fed you the answers - so lazy!

                          • @freeb1e4me: you mixed up RCBO and RCD. I'm only making a big deal of it cause you're calling others clueless when really you are the clueless one

                            • @Keplaffintech:

                              you mixed up RCBO and RCD

                              Nope.

                              I'm only making a big deal of it cause you're calling others clueless when really you are the clueless one

                              I wasn’t the first person to say clueless, but I might be the last regarding yourself - clueless

                              • @freeb1e4me: You're either clueless or in denial from embarrassment. You said

                                yours does not come with any RCD protection so good luck on your house not burning down.

                                Which was a clueless statement as you discovered from the replies.

    • +1

      Is that mate's rate?

      Even within a few meters of the switchboard, it would cost $100 in materials, maybe slightly more to include an isolator (not required but good to have). Plus 1 to 2 hours of labour, so $300 to $400 is a more realistic figure.

      EVSE specialists charging $1,000 for a standard install is a rip off, they are no more qualified than a regular electrician from a wiring/installation POV, but they do add value by ensuring the equipment is fully commissioned and ready to use (more than just powering on).

      • Nope just a hipages job. In fairness the charger is less than a meter from our external switch box. So probably 45cm of conduit, wiring and a circuit breaker. took him around an hour

    • Where do you live? I need a sparky that charges reasonable prices. lol.

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