Looks like lower price than Apple Education ($2349, Apple AOC $2255), however you don't get the $299 AirPods credit from the current Apple Education deal. Same price available at Officeworks (extremely limited availability)/JB Hi-Fi.
16GB/1TB is also on sale for $2517.
@WookieMonster why did you remove the price from the title :P
Nothing ever happened lol
(Sorry, copy-paste error)
I saw nothing!
Price in title
Edit: fixed
silver is $2447 at jbhifi.. however the space black is $200 cheaper…
Same with the M4 Pro, the black is discounted but silver isn't. I just spoke to Live Chat and they matched the pricing for silver.
OW has Sliver at the same price. can ask JB to price match. Cheers
who is buying one? or waiting for the next gen?
Im waiting for Macbook Air and then making a decision based on reviews.
Same. Wanna see how the M4 Air goes. Hopefully soon
im afraid the screen is gonna be better on this. so is the battery life, but i hate the fan noise, i love the air fanless design, but 13 is too small, 15 better, but 15 is same price as this.. such an annoyance
@Roe Jogan: I doubt you will ever hear the fan. I have a M1 Max and can probably count the number of times I have heard the fan on 1 hand
@Joshuaaus: i watched a review where they said the m4 fans are way lounder than the m3 and in the review he holds the mic near the fan you can actually hear it..
@Roe Jogan: It's not the fan noise for me. It's the dust the fan brings into the system. My 2017 MPB runs hot constantly. Besides from the aging battery (replaced in 2020) I'm convinced the fans are chocked with dust I can't get to.
@PainToad: The intel systems are not a good comparison. The majority of the time, these are not running their fans at all. Not just quiet, 0 rpm.
@PainToad: this too! after 1-2 years there is gonna be some built up of dust as expected, with the air you are just not gonna have that problem
Currently this MBP is priced between the 13 inch($1989 edu) and 15 inch ($2349 edu) MBA M3s with 512GB storage.
It is a better deal than either because of an extra 2 CPU cores and her M4, plus all the other superior hardware features of the MBP.
With the crashing AUD, I there is a real risk the MBA will rise in price when the M4 turns up.
I've owned an M1, M3 Pro, and now an M4 MacBook Pro.
The M3 to M4 generation was a big performance improvement. The M4 has similar multi-core performance to the M3 Pro, whilst having significantly better single-core performance. It's the biggest architectural change since the original M1 was released. It's likely that the next 1-2 generations will be process node shrinks with small performance / efficiency gains, so if you're in the market for a MacBook Pro, now is not a bad time to buy.
In regards to the MBA vs. MBP, my sense is that unless the smaller size / weight of the MBA matters a lot to you, the MBP is a better buy. The 13" M3 MBA 16GB/512GB config is currently $1,871 on Apple AOC, so even if that's the price the M4 16GB/512GB MBA will launch at, it's definitely worth the ~$300 to buy the MBP, including for the better build quality, connectivity, display, and cooling system.
The only way that I see the MBA being a viable alternative is if Apple replaces the M3 16GB/256GB tier with an M4 16GB/512GB model, so coming in at around $1,582, which would be decent value compared to the MBP at ~$2250.
I’m still using M1, no complaints and don’t see a point upgrading anytime soon.
Agree, on M2 and no reason to upgrade
I got m1 pro, seriously don't need to upgrade for another 5years they way I'm gong.
512 gb Hdd helps alot.
Yep - completely agree, my old M1 still going strong as my kid's BYOD for school. Sold my M3 Pro for more than what I paid for my M4, so that was a profitable trade IMO.
Good break down. I have M2A and can’t say I have had an issue, however I have noticed it starts to choke a bit when using a VM lately. I decided to remove the VM and start another one and it’s fine, so I think it’s more the VM software not refreshing or compiling and not removing temp files or cache or something to that effect.
Wow this looks like an awesome deal
The thing with these deals is that they would never offer Nano textured display option.
Well that is custom
I did wanted to post this deal other day but thought it was a duplicate
Apple retail should price match right as it’s within their 10% threshold
Want. But my M1 is still as pristine as ever.
same.. but i've been running out of space of 512 like crazy for photos and software dev tasks.
For those who want long battey like mbp and windows, try lunar lake.
Superising use time.
I've not tried Lunar Lake, but have tried Meteor Lake and AMD options which are arguably more efficient. Completely agree battery life has gotten significantly better, but the issue for these have never been the "no load" battery life, but rather, the "medium use" battery life.
Because they are significantly less efficient, the chips just use more wattage when performing "medium-use" tasks, e.g. think of a development use-case where you intermittently compile small projects to test / debug.
Under these use cases, the battery life just tanks significantly on the x86 options. You get around 50% of the use time as the idle battery tests, whereas on Apple Silicon, you get around 80% of the use time.
FWIW, this is coming from someone who honestly prefers Windows and has a strong dislike for certain things about macOS. The hardware really is that good. If only Windows on ARM worked on an M4…
thanks a lot for the insight, that's exactly what I was looking for. do you have a link, too?
I used to be a Windows guy for years and years. I was a Dell reseller (Latitude 7490 is the best Windows laptop ever made lol), and work at Microsoft, and always regarded Macs as expensive nice looking toys. I bought a MacBook Air out of curiosity around 2010 I think? and it was slow and unimpressive, also hard to use, so I just sold it a few months later. and I completely dismissed Macs as an option for years to come
then in Nov 2023 there was a price drop on the original M1 MBA 13, and I decided what the hell, I'll give it a go see what the M chip hype is all about. So I bought entry model 256/8.
as a joke, I installed the same photo editing software (mind you, it was originally developed for intel platform, then converted to work on apple M chips) that I used on my i7-1270P, RTX 3050 laptop with 64GB of RAM. and guess what. this most basic M1 256/8 could apply all filters almost instantly, silently, without spinning fans (there is no fan), and lasted for hours and hours on end. While my intel laptop wouldn't last 2 hours editing photos, and would spin fans like crazy.
I was simply blown away. sold my windows laptop, returned the M1 air, and got myself MBP 14. then sold that and now I am typing this on MBP 16 M1 Pro.
once in a while I look at Windows laptops just being curious if they got any better, because if Apple puts OLED panels into Macs, prices probably would be interstellar. but I don't really want to deal with Windows again if performance and battery life aren't there.
still rocking my MBP 16 M1 Pro
don't really want to go back to 14 tho
will wait for a decent price on MBP 16. screen reap estate is king (photo and video editing)
Same !! I still don’t see any point upgrading 😂
i only just picked up a 16 M1. Leagues ahead of my old i7
Same. But thinking of a 13/14 MBA or MBP to take in a backpack / travel
I thought at first that mbp 16 would be too heavy
going from MBP 14
but the magic is you put it into an oversized bag, and it starts feeling light. don't know how it works. but it always amazes me how I pull a heavy slab of metal MBP 16 is from a bag that feels light with it inside lol
MBP 14 felt claustrophobic. sad because I loved it and it was portable
Still curious to see if they do something with the m4 air due by march. Still, youd likely have the same base specs as this, with a worse screen but maybe a nww case design.
If they lean on the "air" part and make it extra thin and light again (remember the air part?) It would be super tempting.
When you compare this cpus benchmarks on cpu passmark, even this base m4 is faster than a m1 pro and toe to toe with a m2 pro, while being more battery efficient and a massively improved gpu as well.
Overall, its a pretty good price and bridges the gap quite a bit against windows based laptops that would be cheaper.
I doubt the MBA would be redesigned with the M4 generation.
I really want to buy it, but i never used Macintosh operating system. Once i used, i couldn't understand a thing.
Haha same. Windows is as easy as breathing. MacOS you are always googling how do I do this?
after I transitioned about a year+ ago, I had to google a couple of things, but since I primarily just use editing apps, Spotify and browser, I haven't noticed a lot of difference. just works
just occasional crash when switching calibration profiles annoys me
Good price; unfortunately i can't go back to 14'..
What size are you on 15"?
15” MBA. I considered the 16” but decided against it.
Why did you decide against the 16”?
@kev98: Too heavy/big to carry around, I like the screen size though, would be ideal if you mostly use it as a desktop.
@OzHan: it's not bad (16) and totally worth it. after a year+ on MBP 14 I felt that it's way too small
but depends on use I guess. photo and video editing 16 is a must
@shabaka: Agreed, if you don’t mind the size, the 16” is the best screen size. I just don’t understand how Apple managed to make it so heavy (2.3kg).
I'm on the fence for this but keen to get, does anyone have experience using thunderbolt on an ultra wide. I'm using a 45 inch 5120x1440p monitor
Bought a 16 inch m1 max recently and it really is the business. Tried a 14 inch and was a bit tight for me, but if you need to lug it around it's much smaller and lighter, so I'd say it depends on you which one to choose, both good. This base M4 only has one fan, but unless you're hammering it with video editing or something, may not matter. As far as memory goes, more will help. With a lot of chrome tabs open, excel etc, it does go over 16gb use (m1 max has 32). However all these units page and swap very well and storage is fast so no worries.
MacOs is polished Linux/Unix effectively these days, so a true multi process system underneath. With these new M chips and the RISC adoption they're simply far more efficient. The concept of sharing memory for cpu and gpu is great. Windows is still a dog's breakfast underneath. Intel's share price has way underperformed Apple unfortunately for them. Windows of course has far more software. Will be interesting how it will all turn out in future.
Does anyone know if its possible to get a different keyboard layout (like the apple online store)?
Or is this sale just for a specific English only keyboard sku?
You can only get a different keyboard layout on the Apple online store, but you could have a go at price matching it with them online, as it’s under the 10% threshold?
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