Not the cheapest it's been but still a decent deal.
Router only. Ubiquiti wireless access points are sold separately.
Surcharges: 0% direct deposit, 0.9% card, 1% on all other payments.
Ubiquiti Unifi Cloud Gateway Ultra Router $178 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) + Surcharge @ Umart
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swilsonau on 24/01/2025 - 19:03 umart.com.au (626 clicks)
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Anyone who doesn’t agree with me is certifiably wrong and I am the king of the world!
Everyone needs to be a network engineer with CCNA or above or you shouldn’t be on internet!
@JeBs: Yes, definitely need a engineering degree to set up a LAN. I'm surprised it isn't a minimum qualification to apply for an NBN connection.
Personally, I will only use STM-16 for my cabling, nothing else provides the assured QoS to enforce Netflix priority over Binge to allow me to offer differential billing to my downstream voice reseller operations in the family room.@mskeggs: Being a gaslighter like yourself won’t win the argument. And no, you don’t a degree - just a few brain cells - to setup a LAN, QOS and use cabling.
But if the shoe fits…
@JeBs: Didn’t expect this at all, I assumed with your engineering background you’d be asking me why I didn’t operate a STM-64 self healing ring backbone with WRR QoS to make sure I could sustain my SLAs to the home office and the 622Mbps down stream before the lounge room breakout. I guess you maybe don’t run end to end QoS in your home and just put up with the limitations of packet switched networks. OK if it isn’t critical, I guess.
Surprised you put up with the unreliability, but maybe you don’t care about a micro second glitch in Kayo. That might be acceptable for some down market offerings.Happy to help you out if you want to get serious about networking.
Netgear… ok lol…
I'll stick to my unifi gear that hasn't missed a beat for 7 years straight.
@JeBs: Thats why I went for a U6 pro, instead of a U7 pro. :)
I pick my hardware carefully, I value reliability, Wifi throughput isn't everything when I prefer to hardwire everything on ethernet where possible.
@slam: Are you saying there are those who don’t value reliability and throughput? Lol.
It’s still Ubiquiti quality, so comparing it to TP-Link would be worthwhile.
Unfortunately I have to agree with JeBs.
Ubiquiti is “pro-sumer” grade products at best, with alot of “enterprise-themed” marketing splash. Unless you need VLANs and other specific advanced configurations, I’m not clear why anyone would choose it over what is available in the consumer space.
The higher end ASUS AI-Mesh routers consistently deliver significantly higher WiFi speeds than any UniFi product: https://dongknows.com/ubiquiti-unifi-u7-pro-max-wi-fi-7-ap-r…
If your after wifi throughput maybe.
But if your after WAN routing with packet inspection and threat detection along with knowing whats running on your network with the stats to go along with it. Then I'd get Unifi.
Either way, theres no right or wrong buy what you guys want / need.
This UCG ultra can do 1gbs routing on the WAN with full packet inspection turned on, it has the unifi controller built in. Thats all there is to it, I will be getting one at some point when the NBN speed tiers get upgraded in September 2025. I know my USG3 wont be able to route 500Mb/s and I'll need more power on the router. Having additional security and packet inspection features will allow me to troubleshoot any unintended traffic or if any of the devices on the network have potential malware installed. The unify eco-system allows visibility over your whole network.
@slam: Agreed. I don't so much need throughput, but rather want more security, visibility and control over my network and devices. Plus Teleport is handy when it works
@chartparker: Theres also VPN features, supporting IPSec, Wireguard and L2TP VPNs. As well as you can built site to site VPNs, handy for building a family network to share things.
The thing about unify, the gear isnt for everyone. It has its places because its modular. At the moment I have upgraded from Wifi5 to Wifi6 (U6 pro), just replacing an AP. The next thing would be the UCG ultra, then after I'll see if the switches would be upgraded to 10gbit.
You don't need to buy all in ones or fancy mesh systems, you replace the components as you have a need or requirement. The network is intact and always configured to a specific spec (VLAN's segregations for cameras and other IoTs devices).
@slam: ASUS has packet inspection too, called Bandwidth Monitor and Traffic Analyzer Statistic.
EDIT: This demo shows the visibility we get from it: https://demoui.asus.com/TrafficAnalyzer_Statistic.asp. Tell us what we are missing out on from UniFi?
VPN is also supported as per the ones you mentioned - https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1044190/
AI Protect is a user-friendly subscription free service for Malicious Site Blocking, Two-way IPS and Infected Device Block (“The Two-Way Intrusion Prevention System protects any device connected to the network from spam or DDoS attacks. It also blocks malicious incoming packets to protect your router from network vulnerability attacks, such as Shellshocked, Heartbleed, Bitcoin mining, and ransomware. Additionally, Two-Way IPS detects suspicious outgoing packets from infected devices and avoids botnet attacks.”) This is something I’m guessing UniFi does not have?
There’s also parental controls to filter Adult, Messaging, P2P or Streaming content for specific devices.
VLAN is actually possible on ASUS routers, but horrifically unintuitive as there is no GUI for it.
@chartparker: Ubiquiti, being unreliable, can’t be trusted to do all the above. Stick to Netgear, Cisco or anything of quality and you’ll be right.
Having additional security and packet inspection features will allow me to troubleshoot any unintended traffic or if any of the devices on the network have potential malware installed.
Genuine question, do you often come across unintended traffic? I’ve been running a UDM for years and never seen or been alerted to unintended traffic. Also, and again, genuinely interested, how would one tell if a device potentially has malware? Excessive or unusual traffic?
@krouton24: This is a very good question.
ASUS routers carry out packet inspection and partners with Trend Micro. Only a security expert can help detect these things: https://www.asus.com/au/support/faq/1012070/
I’d be interested in understanding how Ubiquiti does it?
At the moment it seems to be that the appeal of network layer security and stats have taken over. For me, I just want to protect my family, ie. my home. For protecting kids, there seems to be much better choices than UniFi.
@krouton24: I havnt had any incidents (touch wood), I secure my network and devices as well as not installing dodgy software or clicking on dodgy links. I can't monitor everyone in the family, but at least I would have the ability to hone in on devices should something be picked up. When your kids get into teenage years, then it becomes more important.
Either way, if your just looking at pricing and just want internet/routing without the care in the world for visibilty on your network. There are other products that are cheaper.
If you want something that is supported, has an easy interface to work with as long as the ability to drill down into each device on the network and monitor the network stats then unify software is pretty good.
Its like buying a synology nas vs a home built or some other freeware NAS. You pay synology for the OS and the support of it plus its features. You ain't paying a premium for like for like hardware. The premium goes towards the software and support.
If we are going to compare brands, lets try and do it in the context of the product in question.
I would generally not be buying a product based on some average of their entire line-up. This is how you miss out on some good bargains.
@TheThoughtFraud: I’ll pack up and go home.
There’s no ASUS router that doesn’t have WiFi. Everything I stated above comes in a single ASUS router.
Friends don't let friends buy Netgear
That’s what a Ubiquiti fanboy would say. Netgear top tier is leagues ahead of consumer grade junk that Ubiquiti dishes out.
$176 on ebay from Futu Online (shopping express) using the code "JAN20OFF", free shipping.
I'm invested into the Ubiquiti ecosystem but only a 1 year warranty is a bit disappointing, considering even TP-Link give a 3 year warranty on bog standard consumer wifi routers they sell.
There is no such thing as “1 year warranty” in Australia for electronics products like this.
They are required to have 2 year warranty…
Are you getting them as part of a 24 month cell service? That was the justification for ACL covering handsets.
Obviously, I agree 12 months is silly for costly hardware, but invoking ACL as being some legal requirement for a $170 device is equally an ambit claim not a law.
Second part of what you said is, as I understand, how you end up getting warranty.
Something like this would be ridiculous to expect to work less than 2 years. I think it’s very reasonable.
https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Warranties%20and%20refu…
https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/18ox7vc/comment/…
@Larsson: I agree with you, less than a couple of years might be an unreasonable time to expect this $170 device to last.
What I am saying is it isn’t a given, regulated time period.
The vendor has a 1 year published warranty - consumer law insists they honour that.
If you wish to challenge 2 years is how long you expect it to operate you can’t say it is 2 years by law, you can only claim it is reasonable by pursuing them at law - in court or the state administrative tribunal like a court.
It is very often the case that vendors don’t want to go to court/tribunal over a claim like 2 years, so will immediately approve your request - but it is absolutely not the case they have to do so.It is really often the claim on these forums that 2 years (or 3 or 4) is what the law says, but it isn’t the case. A vendor who denies a 2 year claim because they think you are too lazy to file an NCAT or similar claim because it is only $170 is quite within their legal rights.
To be fair, we also see customers who are attempting ACL claims after 5 years, or even more, because they feel it is “reasonable”.
I don’t have a problem with people making these claims, but telling them there is no such thing as a 1 year warranty isn’t accurate, because claims under ACL require much more work than those under an actual 1 year warranty.TL:DR after warranty you can often get a result, but you might have to threaten, or go to court - it isn’t automatic.
Not sure why you'd get this. Doesn't give you unifi protect. Routing capabilities can be achieved at half the price with a Mikrotik Hex, TP link ER605 or even decently powerful consumer router flashed with custom firmware off marketplace.
this looks good for the fact it can do dual wan. nbn fttp primary with starlink as backup.
ER605 does up to 3 WAN over ethernet and a usb port for LTE modem backup. $64 on Amazon. Just want the fine folks of Ozbargain to be aware that the ubiquiti unit is nothing special strictly looking at its features, and you are paying 3x as much to get an Apple looking router with a little screen on it (who's looking?)
Genuine question, who can afford that setup who wouldn't buy better unifi gear?
I use the CGU and it's been great, I was a little disappointed with some of it's limitations though (unifi Network, not the hardware).
Do agree, protect us probably pretty important if you ever think about getting cameras from Unifi. But gateway max might be quite a price jump for some.
I got this specifically to see what ubiquiti has. I think I will wait for whenever they actually upgrade udm pro to buy one with protect capabilities. (not se and max with a stupid price jump, 2,5g should be the new 1g)
I always wanted unifi protect, but when I found out that you can't even back up footage to your own nas I was pretty disappointed.
Ubiquiti Unifi Protect recordings can now be backed up to a NAS, OneDrive and Google Drive.
Because it seemlessly plugs into my Unifi system and manages it, it has unifiOS and doesn't require a cloud key.
I can manage my VLANS, different access points and configurations from it and through the app.
Why should I go through the hassle of getting something just so I have to flash it with custom firmware?Fair point if you have all unifi managed switches and APs. But how often are you really fiddling with that stuff? It's quite a price premium for this unit over competitors to have that single pane of glass.
I don't know your needs but personally I set up my home network once and haven't had to make sweeping changes across the different devices since. Maybe open a port here and there or fiddle with the VPN setup - done by accessing router only. My wifi I set once and haven't touched. Don't use VLANs personally but how often are you fiddling with that? Just my 2c as a cheapskate
I have a VLAN for my generic IP cameras that plug into frigate.
I have a VLAN for IoT devices.
I have another VLAN that automatically connects to a VPN gateway through the unifi's VPN client.I can track the performance of a device over the wireless network to see if it's having issues or hopping to the wrong network.
I think there is something overlooked. It does 1gbps routing with full packet inspection turned on. It classifies all your traffic and shows you what is running and if there are any potential security threats. It also shows you how much traffic in and out (plus over time) each device is using and what kind of traffic it is.
A bare bones router off the street may route 1gbps, but it won't have the software to show you anything visibly useful.
How does it compare to the Eero 6+?
Just set mine up recently with 2x U6+ APs. This thing is absolutely amazing for the price! If you can hardwire APs around your house then this is a much better way to go than a consumer grade mesh system. I got my UCG-Ultra for $160 with some random eBay offer that popped up for me.